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 by: Tiglath - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 22:32 UTC

There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.

Remember 'Independence day'? Those city-size alien ships blocking the sky...

Think of space-ship skeptics on that day, and see by analogy what climate skeptics have today obscuring the havens.

Nice symmetry having Captain Kirk, who in Star Trek inspired people to seek jobs at NASA and Blue Origin, build a rocket, and send Kirk to space.

The 90 year old man came back transformed, trying to grasp at the profundity of what he had just felt. Seeing the Earth's atmosphere apparent fragility was highly emotional. He talks in the hushed sincerity of those who know what's coming.

--

See what happens after decades of people cursing a pox on each other?
Persistent Pandemic. Pox Partout. Nemesis collects.

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 by: Peter Jason - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 01:16 UTC

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <temp6@tiglath.net>
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>There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.

All have been bamboozled by the talk-fest in Scotland.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference
......where the usual crowd gather to sip Champagne, Crotch-grind, hug,
kiss, and waste a lot of time.

In all the extensive above not a scintilla, not a whisper about the
true cause of long-term weather change which is population growth and
consumerism, and the fixation on growth. And getting re-elected.

It's all the Elephant in the Room!

Après moi le déluge

Yeah Man!

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 by: SolomonW - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 02:13 UTC

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.

No need but if you want you can start one.

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 by: Tiglath - Fri, 17 Dec 2021 20:12 UTC

On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>
> > There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
> No need but if you want you can start one.

Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.

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 by: SolomonW - Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:05 UTC

On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:12:58 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
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>>> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
>> No need but if you want you can start one.
>
> Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.

There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom.

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 by: Tiglath - Mon, 20 Dec 2021 17:02 UTC

On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:05:30 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:12:58 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
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> > On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >>
> >>> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
> >> No need but if you want you can start one.
> >
> > Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.
> There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom.

Yeah, because I was so wrong about climate change, wasn't I, PIGVOMIT?

It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:02:21 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:05:30 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:12:58 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
>>>> No need but if you want you can start one.
>>>
>>> Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.
>> There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom.
>
> Yeah, because I was so wrong about climate change, wasn't I,

Indeed.

> PIGVOMIT?

You are an idiot

>
> It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.

Clearly I overestimated your reasoning ability.

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 by: Tiglath - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 03:28 UTC

On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 12:56:39 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:02:21 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>
> > On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:05:30 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:12:58 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
> >>>> No need but if you want you can start one.
> >>>
> >>> Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.
> >> There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom..
> >
> > Yeah, because I was so wrong about climate change, wasn't I,
> Indeed.
>
>
> > PIGVOMIT?
>
> You are an idiot
> >
> > It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.
> Clearly I overestimated your reasoning ability.

Excuse moi. Didn't mean to crack the holiday spell or ruffle a pig.

This pandemic is like a war, many don't see it. We didn't give up half way our wars. Companies are closing office access again, and grab on to something because down the tube we go again, into probably another terrible year. I stopped counting, it's like 800K dead now or more, no matter who is president. The virus is beating us because it mutates faster than we can grow philosophically, in the department of personal liberty and actions that potentially harm others in the context of a global pandemic. If a virus was much more lethal than Covid there would be martial law and vaccinations would be mandatory, or placed in quarantine. Covid glides that zone of being lethal yet not inducing general panic. Smooth operator, if you let it.

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 by: Peter Jason - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 04:12 UTC

On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:28:15 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <temp6@tiglath.net>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 12:56:39 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:02:21 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:05:30 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:12:58 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> >>>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
>> >>>> No need but if you want you can start one.
>> >>>
>> >>> Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.
>> >> There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom.
>> >
>> > Yeah, because I was so wrong about climate change, wasn't I,
>> Indeed.
>>
>>
>> > PIGVOMIT?
>>
>> You are an idiot
>> >
>> > It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.
>> Clearly I overestimated your reasoning ability.
>
>Excuse moi. Didn't mean to crack the holiday spell or ruffle a pig.
>
>This pandemic is like a war, many don't see it. We didn't give up half way our wars. Companies are closing office access again, and grab on to something because down the tube we go again, into probably another terrible year. I stopped counting, it's like 800K dead now or more, no matter who is president. The virus is beating us because it mutates faster than we can grow philosophically, in the department of personal liberty and actions that potentially harm others in the context of a global pandemic. If a virus was much more lethal than Covid there would be martial law and vaccinations would be mandatory, or placed in quarantine. Covid glides that zone of being lethal yet not inducing general panic. Smooth operator, if you let it.

O Fate! How cruel thy sting!

We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
system of old and compromised people.

All when we need the CORRECT plague, that is one to attack the
reproductive system, so reducing the numbers of people on the earth.

Still,we live in hope.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> system of old and compromised people.

Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?

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 by: Tiglath - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:36 UTC

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>
> > We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> > system of old and compromised people.
> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?

O Fate! How cruel thy sting! PIGVOMIT!

Yep. PIGVOMIT has the right plague for population reduction... Gross Obesity (GO). Nobody wants to fuck you, unless they have to.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 19:50 UTC

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:59:35 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
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>On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>> system of old and compromised people.
>
>Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?

No - he's right - it's the sort of thing that impacts people AFTER
they've had their children.

This is what makes ALS ("Lou Gehrig's disease") so devastating as if a
close family member has it one never knows whether <you're> going to
get it. Years ago I had a girlfriend whose mother had it so she had a
50-50 chance of getting it in the next 15-20 years. Never did find out
what happened to Judy so have no idea if she's suffered or not. Point
is that doesn't normally strike you till after age 40-45 which is
after most people who are going to be parents have had their tykes.

(There are now tests that show whether a particular person has the ALS
mutation or not and of course there are all kinds of 'should I or
shouldn't I take the test?" anxieties. The same is true of hemophilia
and I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
was available in 1917 or even 1980 when we broke up)

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:50:46 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:

> I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
> that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
> the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
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Anastasia was the carrier.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>>> system of old and compromised people.
>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
>
> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!

Only because it is true

> PIGVOMIT!

Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
world?

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 by: Eric Stevens - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 09:17 UTC

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:59:35 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
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>On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>> system of old and compromised people.
>
>Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?

Because he's talking about something he is incapable of understanding.
:-(
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

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 by: Tiglath - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:46 UTC

On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>
> >>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> >>> system of old and compromised people.
> >> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
> >
> > O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
> Only because it is true
>
>
> > PIGVOMIT!
>
> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
> world?

Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.

It's PIGVOMIT!!!

I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.

To admit to gross obesity is to admit to a terrible personality defect, apart from being Zionist, that is.

With all we know about being a walking Michelin man, and what it does to the health and quality of life, only people incapable of managing a single solitary life, their own, let it happen. Once you become revolting to look at, many of the earthly pleasures disappear from your life, except food. The circle is more than vicious, it's delicious.

Perhaps if he took the croissant out of his mouth to type, the tired readers would have better words to read. His posts never seem written by a Sapiens brain but by a swollen bowel.

The truth hurts, but also liberates. You should thank me.

You are welcome.

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 by: Tiglath - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:58 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-5, Tiglath wrote:
> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> > >>> system of old and compromised people.
> > >> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
> > >
> > > O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
> > Only because it is true
> >
> >
> > > PIGVOMIT!
> >
> > Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
> > world?
> Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
>
> It's PIGVOMIT!!!
>
> I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.
>
> To admit to gross obesity is to admit to a terrible personality defect, apart from being Zionist, that is.
>
> With all we know about being a walking Michelin man, and what it does to the health and quality of life, only people incapable of managing a single solitary life, their own, let it happen. Once you become revolting to look at, many of the earthly pleasures disappear from your life, except food. The circle is more than vicious, it's delicious.
>
> Perhaps if he took the croissant out of his mouth to type, the tired readers would have better words to read. His posts never seem written by a Sapiens brain but by a swollen bowel.
>
> The truth hurts, but also liberates. You should thank me.
>
> You are welcome.

Also, PIGVOMIT, and other idiots... If you were able to pay closer attention, you would notice that I almost never post in your threads to give you grief, it's only when you post in my threads. I much rather have a thread with only my initial post, than full of replies from the idiots. You know who you are, I know who you are, everybody knows who you are. If you don't like me, post elsewhere, and we'll forever pass each other like two ships in the night.

But you can't, I know, because you think you are clever and can poke me in the eye. Which speaks of your cluelessness and your masochism, because you should know by now that when I have a great big fluffy idiot target in my sights, I just can't let go of the rifle.

Have yourself a little merry christmas too.

PIGVOMIT, don't eat all the stuffing, please. Be nice.

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 by: Tiglath - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:13 UTC

On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:28:15 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 12:56:39 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:02:21 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 5:05:30 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:12:58 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 9:12:57 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> >>>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.
> >> >>>> No need but if you want you can start one.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.
> >> >> There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, because I was so wrong about climate change, wasn't I,
> >> Indeed.
> >>
> >>
> >> > PIGVOMIT?
> >>
> >> You are an idiot
> >> >
> >> > It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.
> >> Clearly I overestimated your reasoning ability.
> >
> >Excuse moi. Didn't mean to crack the holiday spell or ruffle a pig.
> >
> >This pandemic is like a war, many don't see it. We didn't give up half way our wars. Companies are closing office access again, and grab on to something because down the tube we go again, into probably another terrible year. I stopped counting, it's like 800K dead now or more, no matter who is president. The virus is beating us because it mutates faster than we can grow philosophically, in the department of personal liberty and actions that potentially harm others in the context of a global pandemic. If a virus was much more lethal than Covid there would be martial law and vaccinations would be mandatory, or placed in quarantine. Covid glides that zone of being lethal yet not inducing general panic. Smooth operator, if you let it.
> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
>
> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> system of old and compromised people.
>
> All when we need the CORRECT plague, that is one to attack the
> reproductive system, so reducing the numbers of people on the earth.
>
> Still,we live in hope.

Got to tune up that a bit. Plague comes and kills most nice people and leaves the assholes.
We need a targeted plague.

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On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:16:04 AM UTC-5, Eric Stevens wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:59:35 +1100, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
> >
> >> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> >> system of old and compromised people.
> >
> >Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
> Because he's talking about something he is incapable of understanding.
> :-(

The Geocentrist's christmas spirit was short-lived, folks - cannot keep it up till Christmas Day - dangle dangle is his angle.

Never mind.

Hopefully, we'll someday be able to give the Greek alphabet a rest and not have to worry about an omega-variant proving that the world ends with neither bang nor whimper but rather with one last, raspy cough.

Be well.

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On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 2:50:50 PM UTC-5, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:59:35 +1100, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
> >
> >> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> >> system of old and compromised people.
> >
> >Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
> No - he's right - it's the sort of thing that impacts people AFTER
> they've had their children.
>
> This is what makes ALS ("Lou Gehrig's disease") so devastating as if a
> close family member has it one never knows whether <you're> going to
> get it. Years ago I had a girlfriend whose mother had it so she had a
> 50-50 chance of getting it in the next 15-20 years. Never did find out
> what happened to Judy so have no idea if she's suffered or not. Point
> is that doesn't normally strike you till after age 40-45 which is
> after most people who are going to be parents have had their tykes.
>
> (There are now tests that show whether a particular person has the ALS
> mutation or not and of course there are all kinds of 'should I or
> shouldn't I take the test?" anxieties. The same is true of hemophilia
> and I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
> that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
> the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
> was available in 1917 or even 1980 when we broke up)

Since one copy of a clotting factor gene is enough, and excess clotting factor is not a good thing,
a process called lyonization will sometimes inactivate one of the genes, or at least reduce it's output.

It is possible that if a woman is a carrier, the inactivated gene will be her good
gene for producing clotting factor. In this case the woman will bruise very
easily, and cuts will heal slowly. So some carriers do show signs of their
genetic problem, but not all. Thus it is possible to do more than speculate on
some cases of historical significance, even when other evidence is unavailable.

William Hyde

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On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 14:51:25 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
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>On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:50:46 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:
>
>> I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
>> that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
>> the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
>> was available in 1917 or even 1980 when we broke up)
>
>
>Anastasia was the carrier.

Really? Google says it was Maria - and confirms what I've read
elsewhere that only one of the 4 daughters carried the gene (meaning
that had she survived to have children half her sons would have had
hemophilia and half her daugthers would have been carriers)

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On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:46:10 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>>>>> system of old and compromised people.
>>>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
>>>
>>> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
>> Only because it is true
>>
>>
>>> PIGVOMIT!
>>
>> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
>> world?
>
> Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
>
> It's PIGVOMIT!!!
>
> I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.
>
> To admit to gross obesity is to admit to a terrible personality defect, apart from being Zionist, that is.
>
> With all we know about being a walking Michelin man, and what it does to the health and quality of life, only people incapable of managing a single solitary life, their own, let it happen. Once you become revolting to look at, many of the earthly pleasures disappear from your life, except food. The circle is more than vicious, it's delicious.
>
> Perhaps if he took the croissant out of his mouth to type, the tired readers would have better words to read. His posts never seem written by a Sapiens brain but by a swollen bowel.
>
> The truth hurts, but also liberates. You should thank me.
>
> You are welcome.

If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?

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 by: SolomonW - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 02:45 UTC

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 12:25:54 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 14:51:25 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:50:46 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>
>>> I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
>>> that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
>>> the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
>>> was available in 1917 or even 1980 when we broke up)
>>
>>
>>Anastasia was the carrier.
>
> Really? Google says it was Maria - and confirms what I've read
> elsewhere that only one of the 4 daughters carried the gene (meaning
> that had she survived to have children half her sons would have had
> hemophilia and half her daugthers would have been carriers)

Anastasia was a carrier, as determined by recent DNA testing.

https://online.ucpress.edu/abt/article/75/9/652/18622/Royal-Hemophilia

Maria according to the same test was okay.

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 by: Tiglath - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 18:28 UTC

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 9:40:39 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:46:10 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> >>>>> system of old and compromised people.
> >>>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
> >>>
> >>> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
> >> Only because it is true
> >>
> >>
> >>> PIGVOMIT!
> >>
> >> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
> >> world?
> >
> > Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
> >
> > It's PIGVOMIT!!!
> >
> > I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.

> If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?

Don't make me insult you on Xmas PIGVOMIT!

Your answer has been answered before asking. See above if your fat eyelids let you.

None of this would have happened if you and the other one understood simple courtesy. This is a public place and people can post where and when they want, but if someone let's you know that you and your opinions are not welcome, why force yourself on people and keep posting in my threads?

It's you own damn fault. Because you refuse to accept you are not wanted and refuse to act accordingly. It must be terrible to have no manners.

In the street or a park or other public places, you can go and stand anywhere as well, but do you walk right into a group of people talking 'in their own thread' uninvited? Do you? I don't think sane people do that. Why do it here?

Just to annoy me, despite having told you numerous times I want no debate with or or the other one, of any kind. I've had all I want from you both. Fuck off.

But you don't, so that's why PIGVOMIT and the other one continue to be deservedly vilified.

Capisce? Now be polite and fuck off my threads, you are like a plague.

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On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 10:28:42 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 9:40:39 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:46:10 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>>>>>>> system of old and compromised people.
>>>>>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
>>>>>
>>>>> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
>>>> Only because it is true
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PIGVOMIT!
>>>>
>>>> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
>>>> world?
>>>
>>> Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
>>>
>>> It's PIGVOMIT!!!
>>>
>>> I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.
>

(a)

>> If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?
>
> Don't make me insult you on Xmas PIGVOMIT!
>
> Your answer has been answered before asking. See above if your fat eyelids let you.
>
> None of this would have happened if you and the other one understood simple courtesy. This is a public place and people can post where and when they want, but if someone let's you know that you and your opinions are not welcome, why force yourself on people and keep posting in my threads?
>
> It's you own damn fault. Because you refuse to accept you are not wanted and refuse to act accordingly. It must be terrible to have no manners.
>
> In the street or a park or other public places, you can go and stand anywhere as well, but do you walk right into a group of people talking 'in their own thread' uninvited? Do you? I don't think sane people do that. Why do it here?
>
> Just to annoy me, despite having told you numerous times I want no debate with or or the other one, of any kind. I've had all I want from you both. Fuck off.
>
> But you don't, so that's why PIGVOMIT and the other one continue to be deservedly vilified.
>
> Capisce? Now be polite and fuck off my threads, you are like a plague.

After all this, my question at (a) is not answered. This is a public forum;
you want private use email.

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