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 by: George.Anthony - Thu, 17 Nov 2022 18:57 UTC

Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
> times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
>
> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
>
> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
>
> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
>
> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
> in the same state in 1830).
>
> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”
>
> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
> against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
> was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
> [snip]
>
> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
>
> If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
> Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
>
> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
> over his fiddle.
>
> TB
>

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the
complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

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 by: bfh - Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:32 UTC

George.Anthony wrote:
> Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
>> times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
>> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
>> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
>>
>> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
>>
>> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
>>
>> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
>> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
>>
>> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
>> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
>> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
>> in the same state in 1830).
>>
>> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
>> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
>> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
>> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
>> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
>> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”
>>
>> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
>> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
>> against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
>> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
>> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
>> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
>> was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
>> [snip]
>>
>> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
>>
>> If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
>> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
>> Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
>> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
>>
>> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
>> over his fiddle.
>>
>> TB
>>
>
> To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

Yawn?! Watchoo mean, yawn? At the end of the day going forward, the
name of that creek must literally be changed, and somebody must be
held accountable. There's no telling how many people have been
rendered uncomfortable by hearing or seeing the name of that creek or
road. For a statistically significant portion of the chronic woke, it
probably even induced transitory cognitive paralysis.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: film...@gmail.com - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 00:19 UTC

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
> Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
> > times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
> > about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
> > Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
> > didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
> >
> > "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
> >
> > Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
> >
> > "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
> > his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
> >
> > Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
> > brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
> > his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
> > in the same state in 1830).
> >
> > According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
> > “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
> > Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
> > Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
> > violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
> > to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”
> >
> > Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
> > to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
> > against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
> > Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col..
> > John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
> > encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
> > according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
> > was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
> > [snip]
> >
> > https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
> >
> > If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
> > Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
> > Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
> > Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
> > is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
> >
> > I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
> > over his fiddle.
> >
> > TB
> >
> To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.
>
> --
> "I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the
> complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
> wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
> racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability! Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their group! Of Course, you probably don't like basketball, and can't dance worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!

Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.

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 by: film...@gmail.com - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 00:45 UTC

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
> George.Anthony wrote:
> > Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
> >> times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
> >> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
> >> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
> >> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
> >>
> >> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
> >>
> >> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
> >>
> >> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
> >> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
> >>
> >> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
> >> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
> >> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
> >> in the same state in 1830).
> >>
> >> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
> >> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
> >> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
> >> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
> >> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
> >> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.â€
> >>
> >> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
> >> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
> >> against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
> >> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
> >> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
> >> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
> >> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,†Southworth
> >> was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
> >>
> >> If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
> >> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
> >> Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
> >> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
> >> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
> >>
> >> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
> >> over his fiddle.
> >>
> >> TB
> >>
> >
> > To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.
>
> Yawn?! Watchoo mean, yawn? At the end of the day going forward, the
> name of that creek must literally be changed, and somebody must be
> held accountable. There's no telling how many people have been
> rendered uncomfortable by hearing or seeing the name of that creek or
> road. For a statistically significant portion of the chronic woke, it
> probably even induced transitory cognitive paralysis.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Despite the generations of offendees who are, and were, "rendered uncomfortable", by the slur named creek... I think all but the most paranoid will survive without too much inner-trauma... After all, it's just a creek, not some high tone resort, where the white privileged class meet, to amuse themselves... I'm surprised that our one lone black person, didn't want the name changed to "Southworth Creek"? It would make a fantastic "photo op" for all concerned, and show that white folks, are actually becoming more sensitive to changing times....

Wm. Jennings Bryant Jr.

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film...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>> Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road
>>>> many times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never
>>>> thought much about it and I had never heard anything about
>>>> Mr. Southworth before. Back then Waldport was just about
>>>> exclusively white and the whole county didn't have much color
>>>> of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
>>>>
>>>> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
>>>>
>>>> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
>>>>
>>>> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected
>>>> fixture in his community and is now memorialized in
>>>> Waldport.
>>>>
>>>> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James
>>>> Southworth, who brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in
>>>> 1853, when Louis was in his early 20s (some accounts have him
>>>> born in Tennessee in 1829, others in the same state in
>>>> 1830).
>>>>
>>>> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon
>>>> Encyclopedia, “Before long, James Southworth, along
>>>> with his family and Louis Southworth, left Oregon for
>>>> California to try his hand at gold mining. Louis Southworth
>>>> soon found that he could make more money playing his violin
>>>> for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000
>>>> (equivalent to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his
>>>> freedom.â€
>>>>
>>>> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth
>>>> is believed to have fought in the Oregon Militia,
>>>> participating in skirmishes against Indigenous bands during
>>>> the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern Oregon. He reportedly
>>>> joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. John
>>>> Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a
>>>> chance encounter, and though his name is not included in the
>>>> militia’s rolls, according to Charles H.
>>>> Carey’s “General History of Oregon,â€
>>>> Southworth was wounded during in a clash during either March
>>>> or April of 1856." [snip]
>>>>
>>>> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
>>>> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a
>>>> nearby Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to
>>>> Louis Southworth. The Drift creek Landing has been there for
>>>> a long time. It looks like there is also an RV park on what
>>>> was once Mr. Southworth's land.
>>>>
>>>> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist
>>>> church over his fiddle.
>>>>
>>>> TB
>>>>
>>>
>>> To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.
>>
>> Yawn?! Watchoo mean, yawn? At the end of the day going forward,
>> the name of that creek must literally be changed, and somebody
>> must be held accountable. There's no telling how many people have
>> been rendered uncomfortable by hearing or seeing the name of that
>> creek or road. For a statistically significant portion of the
>> chronic woke, it probably even induced transitory cognitive
>> paralysis.
>>
>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Despite the generations of offendees who are, and were, "rendered
> uncomfortable", by the slur named creek... I think all but the
> most paranoid will survive without too much inner-trauma... After
> all, it's just a creek, not some high tone resort, where the
> white privileged class meet, to amuse themselves... I'm
> surprised that our one lone black person, didn't want the name
> changed to "Southworth Creek"? It would make a fantastic "photo
> op" for all concerned, and show that white folks, are actually
> becoming more sensitive to changing times....

The Creek are a tribe originally from GA/AL, and you - as a West Coast
Woker - just unashamedly misappropriated their cultural heritage. At
the end of the day going forward, you should be....ummm.....literally
ashamed, and should be held accountable by somebody.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: George.Anthony - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 02:10 UTC

film...@gmail.com <filmbydon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
>> Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
>>> times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
>>> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
>>> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
>>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
>>>
>>> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
>>>
>>> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
>>>
>>> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
>>> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
>>>
>>> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
>>> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
>>> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
>>> in the same state in 1830).
>>>
>>> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
>>> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
>>> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
>>> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
>>> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
>>> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”
>>>
>>> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
>>> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
>>> against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
>>> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
>>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
>>> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
>>> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
>>> was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
>>>
>>>
>>> If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
>>> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
>>> Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
>>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
>>> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
>>>
>>> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
>>> over his fiddle.
>>>
>>> TB
>>>
>> To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.
>>
>> --
>> "I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the
>> complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
>> wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
>> racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard
>
> As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's
> pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability!
> Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their
> group! Of Course, you probably don't like basketball, and can't dance
> worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!
>
> Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.
>

I still dance a bit but basketball is many rears behind me.

Magic Johnson

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the
complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

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 by: bfh - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 02:40 UTC

George.Anthony wrote:
> film...@gmail.com <filmbydon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
>>> Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
>>>> times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
>>>> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
>>>> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
>>>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
>>>>
>>>> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
>>>>
>>>> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
>>>>
>>>> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
>>>> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
>>>>
>>>> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
>>>> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
>>>> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
>>>> in the same state in 1830).
>>>>
>>>> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
>>>> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
>>>> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
>>>> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
>>>> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
>>>> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”
>>>>
>>>> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
>>>> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
>>>> against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
>>>> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
>>>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
>>>> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
>>>> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
>>>> was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
>>>> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
>>>> Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
>>>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
>>>> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
>>>>
>>>> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
>>>> over his fiddle.
>>>>
>>>> TB
>>>>
>>> To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the
>>> complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
>>> wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
>>> racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard
>>
>> As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's
>> pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability!
>> Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their
>> group! Of Course, you probably don't like basketball, and can't dance
>> worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!
>>
>> Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.
>>
>
> I still dance a bit but basketball is many rears behind me.

I only sorta tried, but I couldn't bring that picture into focus.
Probably just as well.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: George.Anthony - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 16:53 UTC

On 11/17/2022 8:40 PM, bfh wrote:
> George.Anthony wrote:
>> film...@gmail.com <filmbydon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
>>> wrote:
>>>> Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
>>>>> times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
>>>>> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
>>>>> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole
>>>>> county
>>>>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022
>>>>>
>>>>> "Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
>>>>> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.
>>>>>
>>>>> Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
>>>>> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
>>>>> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829,
>>>>> others
>>>>> in the same state in 1830).
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
>>>>> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
>>>>> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
>>>>> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
>>>>> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000
>>>>> (equivalent
>>>>> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is
>>>>> believed
>>>>> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
>>>>> against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in
>>>>> southern
>>>>> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of
>>>>> Col.
>>>>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a
>>>>> chance
>>>>> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s
>>>>> rolls,
>>>>> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,”
>>>>> Southworth
>>>>> was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
>>>>> Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
>>>>> Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis
>>>>> Southworth. The
>>>>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like
>>>>> there
>>>>> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.
>>>>>
>>>>> I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
>>>>> over his fiddle.
>>>>>
>>>>> TB
>>>>>
>>>> To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now
>>>> under the
>>>> complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
>>>> wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
>>>> racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" -
>>>> Tulsi Gabbard
>>>
>>> As a proud African-American,  you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's
>>> pulling himself up by his bootstraps,  to a modicum of respectability!
>>> Minorities should honor past,  present, and future members of their
>>> group!  Of Course,  you probably don't like basketball,  and can't dance
>>> worth a tinkers curse,  either!   HawHawHaw!
>>>
>>> Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.
>>>
>>
>> I still dance a bit but basketball is many rears behind me.
>
> I only sorta tried, but I couldn't bring that picture into focus.
> Probably just as well.
>
>
Yeah, the old fat fingers typo strikes again.
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