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From: bks...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
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Subject: Ted Cruz, Seditionist
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 12:38 UTC

| ...
| An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
| between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
| deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
| concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
| keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
| to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
| potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
| allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
| his principles.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>

--bks

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 by: NoBody - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:20 UTC

On 28 Mar 2022 12:38:57 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:

> | ...
> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
> | his principles.
> | ...
><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>
> --bks

You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
going on with your stupidity.

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Subject: Re: Ted Cruz, Seditionist
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29 UTC

Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> | ...
>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>> | his principles.
>> | ...
>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
> ...
>You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>going on with your stupidity.

The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?

--bks

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:09 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29:20 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> | ...
>>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>>> | his principles.
>>> | ...
>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>> ...
>>You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>>going on with your stupidity.
>
>The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
>they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?
>
> --bks

This liberal fool is still attempting to label opinions as facts. I
suspect he/she/it's confusion is because of a substandard education.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:25 UTC

Blue Girl Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29:20 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> | ...
>>>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>>>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>>>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>>>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>>>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>>>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>>>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>>>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>>>> | his principles.
>>>> | ...
>>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>>> ...
>>>You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>>>going on with your stupidity.
>>
>>The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
>>they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?
>
>This liberal fool is still attempting to label opinions as facts. I
>suspect he/she/it's confusion is because of a substandard education.

From the article:
| ...
| As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
| Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
| a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
| to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
| the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
| 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
| legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
| backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
| the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
| ...
<ibid.>

--bks

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:00 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:25:57 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Blue Girl Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29:20 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>>>>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>>>>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>>>>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>>>>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>>>>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>>>>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>>>>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>>>>> | his principles.
>>>>> | ...
>>>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>>>> ...
>>>>You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>>>>going on with your stupidity.
>>>
>>>The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
>>>they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?
>>
>>This liberal fool is still attempting to label opinions as facts. I
>>suspect he/she/it's confusion is because of a substandard education.
>
>From the article:
> | ...
> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
> | ...
><ibid.>
>
> --bks

No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
you think are the "facts."

Do you have any idea what a fact is?

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:22 UTC

Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
> ...
>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
> ...
>No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>you think are the "facts."

For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
<https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>

--bks

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:41 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:22:36 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>> ...
>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>> ...
>>No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>you think are the "facts."
>
>For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
><https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>
> --bks

Hey, good for you. Some actual facts... Direct from the horses
mouth..

The facts in that statement are that those senators suggested that
"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with
full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency
10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states."

He also said "Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject
the electors from disputed states as not ‘regularly given' and
‘lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that
emergency 10-day audit is completed."

Nothing about overturning anything...

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:07 UTC

Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:22:36 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>> ...
>>>No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>you think are the "facts."
>>
>>For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>><https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>
>Hey, good for you. Some actual facts...
> ...

Apology accepted. I *always* tell the truth.

--bks

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:20 UTC

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:07:30 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:22:36 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>> ...
>>>>No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>you think are the "facts."
>>>
>>>For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>><https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>
>>Hey, good for you. Some actual facts...
>> ...
>
>Apology accepted. I *always* tell the truth.
>
> --bks

But why did you edit my post? That's dishonest. You're a dishonest
liberal. No surprise there.

I'll put back what you snipped because you had no response...

The facts in that statement are that those senators suggested that
"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with
full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency
10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states."

He also said "Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject
the electors from disputed states as not ‘regularly given' and
‘lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that
emergency 10-day audit is completed."

Nothing about overturning anything...

Nothing about any sedition, either.

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On 3/29/22 8:09 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29:20 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> | ...
>>>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>>>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>>>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>>>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>>>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>>>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>>>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>>>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>>>> | his principles.
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>>> ...
>>> You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>>> going on with your stupidity.
>>
>> The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
>> they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?
>>
>> --bks
>
> This liberal fool is still attempting to label opinions as facts. I
> suspect he/she/it's confusion is because of a substandard education.

So what's new ? Admittedly the 'right' tends to do it as well.
Almost everyone has received a sub-standard education - the
start of that was way back in the 60s and got VERY bad by the
mid 70s. They don't know any history, they don't know any science,
they can't understand the written word, they can't work out a
simple logic problem or interpret the simplest stat (and have
likely never heard the phrase "Lies, damned lies, and statistics").
It's why China zoomed ahead while we kept sliding back.

I *do* blame this on the further left - I think they WANTED
to make us vulnerable to our "communist betters".

Heh ... you had to DIG DIG to find per-capita figures during
the Covid epidemic (or do the math yourself). "AAaauugh - Florida
and Texas have HUGE infection numbers ! PROVES 'red' states are
inferior !". The simplest per-capita analysis would debunk that
propaganda - but mysteriously it was almost totally lacking and
never explained. So, the public fell for the "...and statistics"
lies.

So far the "firemen" haven't come for the printed books, but
perhaps it does not matter since "truth" is Twitter, YouTube
videos and MSNBC these days. Read a BOOK ??? No, No, NO !

As for "Ted Cruz, Seditionist" ... anybody who doesn't agree
with you 100% is a seditious, traitorous, racist, criminal
idiot. The middle has been squeezed out and only the extremes
remain. I blame that on TV - flame-wars get ratings so you
rarely see anything else. The only GOOD part about this right
now is that the 'left' is busy destroying their own over who
is 'Woke' enough and in the correct ways. It's rather like the
wars between Shia/Sunni/Sufi. When extremism rules, NOBODY
is "pure" enough :-)

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29:20 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> | ...
>>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>>> | his principles.
>>> | ...
>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>> ...
>>You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>>going on with your stupidity.
>
>The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
>they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?
>
> --bks

Nothing contained in what you chose to quote. Don't smart people LEAD
with their best points?

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 06:20:53 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:29:20 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> | ...
>>>> | An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz's actions
>>>> | between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how
>>>> | deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to
>>>> | concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to
>>>> | keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths
>>>> | to court Trump's base and lay the groundwork for his own
>>>> | potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close
>>>> | allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning
>>>> | his principles.
>>>> | ...
>>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/28/ted-cruz-john-eastman-jan6-committee/>
>>> ...
>>>You seem to lacking any actual facts but don't let that stop you from
>>>going on with your stupidity.
>>
>>The article is *replete* with facts. But perhaps
>>they don't let you read U.S. media in Russia?
>>
>> --bks
>
>Nothing contained in what you chose to quote. Don't smart people LEAD
>with their best points?

Oh...Bradley???

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 by: Gronk - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 05:16 UTC

Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>> ...
>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>> ...
>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>> you think are the "facts."
>
> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>

Game, set, MATCH

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 08:19 UTC

On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>> ...
>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>> you think are the "facts."
>>
>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>
>Game, set, MATCH

<LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.

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 by: 25.BX944 - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 06:07 UTC

On 4/3/22 4:19 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>> ...
>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>
>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>
>> Game, set, MATCH
>
> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.

If it ain't 101% Woke then it's "sedition" ... that's
the new reality.

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 by: David Hartung - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 06:08 UTC

On 4/3/2022 11:07 PM, 25.BX944 wrote:
> On 4/3/22 4:19 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll.  Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Game, set, MATCH
>>
>> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>
>
>   If it ain't 101% Woke

No such thing.

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 by: Gronk - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 04:00 UTC

Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>> ...
>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>
>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>
>> Game, set, MATCH
>
> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>

sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

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 by: 25.BX944 - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 06:22 UTC

On 4/10/22 12:00 AM, Gronk wrote:
> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll.  Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Game, set, MATCH
>>
>> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>>
>
> sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful
> authority

Cruz IS "lawful authority".

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 08:21 UTC

On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:00:14 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>>
>>> Game, set, MATCH
>>
>> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>>
>
>sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

You're saying that BLM and ANTIFA are seditionists?

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 by: Rudy Canoza - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:27 UTC

On 4/9/2022 11:22 PM, 25.BX944 wrote:
> On 4/10/22 12:00 AM, Gronk wrote:
>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>>>
>>>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll.  Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Game, set, MATCH
>>>
>>> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>>>
>>
>> sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority
>
>
>   Cruz IS "lawful authority".

Bullshit.

Cruz was inciting people to obstruct Congress. He needs to go to prison.

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 by: Gronk - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 04:45 UTC

Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:00:14 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>>>
>>>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>>>
>>>> Game, set, MATCH
>>>
>>> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>>>
>>
>> sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority
>
>
> You're saying that BLM and ANTIFA are seditionists?
>
Were electoral votes being counted?

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 by: Siri Cruise - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 06:17 UTC

In article <t3dhlc$v0f$3@dont-email.me>,
Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >> sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful
> >> authority
> >
> >
> > You're saying that BLM and ANTIFA are seditionists?
> >
> Were electoral votes being counted?

Non sequitur since the idiots want to use inapplicable federal
when it would be state laws that apply. You know, the states's
right the idiots always whine about.

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:43 UTC

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 22:45:35 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:00:14 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 23:16:48 -0600, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> | As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike
>>>>>>>> | Pence could deny certifying Biden's election, Cruz crafted
>>>>>>>> | a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting
>>>>>>>> | to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting
>>>>>>>> | the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a
>>>>>>>> | 10-day "audit" -- thus potentially enabling GOP state
>>>>>>>> | legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators
>>>>>>>> | backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on
>>>>>>>> | the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> No facts there, Dummy. If you think differently, please indicate what
>>>>>>> you think are the "facts."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For fuck's sake, Russian troll. Cruz issued a fucking *press
>>>>>> release* outlining his seditionist plan on 2 Jan 2021:
>>>>>> <https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/joint-statement-from-senators-cruz-johnson-lankford-daines-kennedy-blackburn-braun-senators-elect-lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville>
>>>>>
>>>>> Game, set, MATCH
>>>>
>>>> <LOL> Nothing in Cruz's statement came close to being sedition, Dummy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority
>>
>>
>> You're saying that BLM and ANTIFA are seditionists?
>>
>Were electoral votes being counted?

<LOL> non seq.

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:46 UTC

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:17:12 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <t3dhlc$v0f$3@dont-email.me>,
> Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >> sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful
>> >> authority
>> >
>> >
>> > You're saying that BLM and ANTIFA are seditionists?
>> >
>> Were electoral votes being counted?
>
>Non sequitur

Exactly.

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