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https://www.reuters.com/world/singer-tina-turner-dies-aged-83-2023-05-24/

--
Sanford
Strangely enough, it means
the way across the river.

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 by: radioacti...@gmail.c - Wed, 24 May 2023 20:43 UTC

Regarding your posting-tagline marginalia, you helpfully suggest it's "strange" that the name Sanford would have an etymology which refers to unspecified-means across a given river.

Actually, it makes sense to me, inasmuch as we still occasionally read of a group of folks "fording a river", don't we? We CERTAINLY heard that in '30s-'60s westerns, even if they weren't John Ford films.

But Sanford, it's hard to imagine any broadcast news thirtysomething correspondent employing such phraseology in a cable news report about thousands of illegals "fording the Rio Grande near El Paso...", any more likely than they'd use it while on break during their probably-ungrammatical-"like"-littered off-air exchanges with colleagues about the story. (Instead, when the red light was on, they'd report something along the lines of "...Authorities say that of the estimated 85 hundred migrants apprehended in the dragnet operation crossing the Rio Grande, some 30% are claiming political asylum, while the additional thousands are scheduled to be released into the general population with a court date over the next 36 hours. In El Paso, Texas, I'm CNN correspondent...".)

And while on the subject of Sanford (also the name of an Orlando suburb which I was not to live in during the post-Trevon Era), how about the guy who made the surname a household punchline:

Granted, as a native (and lifelong booster) of Greater St. Louis, I would have been interested in the career of the late Redd Foxx even IF Chuck Berry's fellow north-sider didn't enhance the NBC Friday primetime lineup during the 70s with "Sanford and Son". For through its early seasons, the landmark sitcom was usually artfully written and presented, though annoyingly over-acted too often. (Though as a punctuation fan, I always thought it should have been titled "Sanford & Son"--to graphically imply they were in business with each other--and its short-lived sequel sitcom "Sanford Arms" was a serious quantum drop in quality, just as "Archie Bunker's Place" was never an "All in the Family".)

Anyway, I enjoy quizzing people with this: What was Redd Foxx's real name? (Answer below.*)

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
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* John Sanford...though the name for what would be his most celebrated character was selected in tribute to Foxx's father and (presumably) older brother, both of whom were indeed named Fred Sanford.

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 by: radioacti...@gmail.c - Wed, 24 May 2023 21:40 UTC

Meanwhile, regarding the late Tina Turner: I could be the only person in America (besides, presumably, John Fogerty, Stu Cook and Doug Clifford) who thinks Ike & Tina's smash-hit rendition did not improve on the original "Proud Mary"; the CCR recording is not merely less kinetic--and in rock, pop AND soul, that's usually a good thing--but FAR more nuanced.

Meanwhile, never forget, Ike & Tina Turner got their start in clubs in St. Louis, Missouri and East St. Louis, Illinois, where the act got rollin' alongside the Mississippi River, with the occasional sternwheeler still passing up or downstream.

Of assorted St. Louis-connected recording acts, Ike & Tina were exponentially more impactful than, say, Bob Kuban & The In-Men*, yet never nearly as successful their more-polished-sounding contemporaries The 5th Dimension (who had two members out of that St. Louis scene). Now granted, Ike & Tina were never more than a minuscule fraction as influential as Chuck Berry, but then again, no one was.

STYBLE/Florida
============* That band might have had a better shot at longterm (or at least comeback) success if lead singer Walter Scott had not been murdered in December 1983 in nearby St. Peters, Missouri.

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On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:43:25 PM UTC-5, radioacti...@gmail.com wrote:
> Actually, it makes sense to me, inasmuch as we still occasionally read of a group of folks "fording a river", don't we? We CERTAINLY heard that in '30s-'60s westerns, even if they weren't John Ford films.

"What do you want with a Ford if you got a horse?"

> And while on the subject of Sanford (also the name of an Orlando suburb

A pretty depressed town last time I was there early in my career. The ball field where Jackie Robinson first played pro ball is still there and is part of an elementary school. I was doing an outdoor (YUCK!) performance there (early '80s) and none of the almost entirely black school admins were even aware of the field's significance. Kinda sad.

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 by: radioacti...@gmail.c - Wed, 24 May 2023 22:10 UTC

ADDENDUM:

Drudge is major-image headlining the Tina demise...on the same refresh page, as it happens, where the late Tina Turner's biggest booster, The Oprah* is now being touted as a California-guv-appointed successor Senator for the soon-to-resign Senator DiFi ! [Cue the late Herb Morrison and his Hindenburg-schtick audio.]

Oh, and the ever-lurking popular music critic in me pointed out above how it was certainly nothing to be ashamed of that Ike & Tina were never barely a tiny fraction as influential as Chuck Berry, simply because NO one was influential. Shoulda instead mentioned that one (but only one) guy--and a fellow Midwesterner!--actually IS.**

STYBLE/Florida
============* As Rush would always contemptuously refer to Winfrey.
** "Is" rather than "was", inasmuch as the recording artist with the funny nose, funnier hair and funniest voice lives on--and in fact this very day, Wednesday, May 24, 2023, attained the gloriously advanced age of 82.

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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 24 May 2023 22:50 UTC

radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Regarding your posting-tagline marginalia, you helpfully suggest it's
> "strange" that the name Sanford would have an etymology which refers to
> unspecified-means across a given river.
>
> Actually, it makes sense to me, inasmuch as we still occasionally read of a
> group of folks "fording a river", don't we? We CERTAINLY heard that in
> '30s-'60s westerns, even if they weren't John Ford films.
>
> But Sanford, it's hard to imagine any broadcast news thirtysomething
> correspondent employing such phraseology in a cable news report about
> thousands of illegals "fording the Rio Grande near El Paso...", any more
> likely than they'd use it while on break during their
> probably-ungrammatical-"like"-littered off-air exchanges with colleagues
> about the story.

In any event one only FORDS a river if one is going by way of a shallow
spot maintaining direct contact with the bottom as one walks or rides;
is that possible on the Rio Grande near El Paso?

A san(d)ford is where the shallow river bottom is sand,of course.

>
> Granted, as a native (and lifelong booster) of Greater St. Louis, I would
>have been interested in the career of the late Redd Foxx even IF Chuck Berry's
>fellow north-sider didn't enhance the NBC Friday primetime lineup during the
>70s with "Sanford and Son". For through its early seasons, the landmark
>sitcom was usually artfully written and presented, though annoyingly
>over-acted too often. (Though as a punctuation fan, I always thought it
>should have been titled "Sanford & Son"--to graphically imply they were in
>business with each other--and its short-lived sequel sitcom "Sanford Arms" was
>a serious quantum drop in quality, just as "Archie Bunker's Place" was never
>an "All in the Family".)

So what are your thoughts on the later sequel,"Sanford"?


>
> BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
> ===================

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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 24 May 2023 22:52 UTC

radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Meanwhile, regarding the late Tina Turner: I could be the only person in
> America (besides, presumably, John Fogerty, Stu Cook and Doug Clifford) who
> thinks Ike & Tina's smash-hit rendition did not improve on the original
> "Proud Mary"; the CCR recording is not merely less kinetic--and in rock, pop
> AND soul, that's usually a good thing--but FAR more nuanced.

Am I alone in associating that song primarily with Jose Feliciano?
I saw him performing it on television before ever hearing anyone else do it.
> STYBLE/Florida
> =============

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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 24 May 2023 22:57 UTC

radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
> ADDENDUM:
>
> Drudge is major-image headlining the Tina demise...on the same refresh page,
> as it happens, where the late Tina Turner's biggest booster, The Oprah* is
> now being touted as a California-guv-appointed successor Senator for the
> soon-to-resign Senator DiFi ! [Cue the late Herb Morrison and his
> Hindenburg-schtick audio.]

Still no commitment to resign (and Republicans might block her
replacement on committees if she goes).

Other names in the mix are Shirley Weber (California SoS) and
Maxine Waters (85-year-old Congresswoman) since Newsom wants to
appoint a a black woman who would not seek election in '24.

> STYBLE/Florida
> =============
> * As Rush would always contemptuously refer to Winfrey.

Would the younger and less contemptuous call her
the Grand Ole Oprah now?

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 by: MJ Emigh - Wed, 24 May 2023 23:20 UTC

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 5:54:24 PM UTC-5, Louis Epstein wrote:

> Am I alone in associating that song primarily with Jose Feliciano?

Probably. How 'bout "Light My Fire"?

I thankfully saw Ike & Tina several times when I was around 15 or 16. I can't say if the term "influential" would apply, but I suspect it would to some degree. They had an incredibly great show that their audiences just went nuts over! I can only think of Sly & the Family Stone as coming close to their showmanship in that so-called "soul" genre. Today's stage spectacles certainly surpass all of that. Too bad the music sucks.

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Subject: Re: Tina Turner Dead at 83 years old in Switzerland
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 23:48:45 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 24 May 2023 23:48 UTC

radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
> ADDENDUM:
>
> STYBLE/Florida
> =============
> the gloriously advanced age of 82.

May I enquire as to (having once spoken to someone
older than that about her then-living grandmother)
what the Styble scale of adjectives appropriate to ages is?

In my newsgroup posting career I recall someone
complaining about an unflattering description of
Her since-deceased Britannic Majesty as "middle-aged"
(the complainant concurred in the lack of flattery,
but the quoted description had been around for some
years and he felt it outdated) and said she was
in fact "old",so I inquired as to how he would
describe the then-surviving Queen Mother,to which
he responded "very old".

What age bracket rates "gloriously advanced" and
what are the further amplifications?

The LDS Church,for example,in the period since
September 1955,has only had a president under age 82
in July 1972-March 1977 and January 2008-August 2009.
Two men in that span didn't even GET the job before
age 93.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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 by: A Friend - Thu, 25 May 2023 01:57 UTC

In article <u4m7ot$32f$1@reader2.panix.com>, Louis Epstein
<le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:

> radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ADDENDUM:
> >
> > STYBLE/Florida
> > =============
> > the gloriously advanced age of 82.
>
> May I enquire as to (having once spoken to someone
> older than that about her then-living grandmother)
> what the Styble scale of adjectives appropriate to ages is?
>
> In my newsgroup posting career I recall someone
> complaining about an unflattering description of
> Her since-deceased Britannic Majesty as "middle-aged"
> (the complainant concurred in the lack of flattery,
> but the quoted description had been around for some
> years and he felt it outdated) and said she was
> in fact "old",so I inquired as to how he would
> describe the then-surviving Queen Mother,to which
> he responded "very old".
>
> What age bracket rates "gloriously advanced" and
> what are the further amplifications?
>
> The LDS Church,for example,in the period since
> September 1955,has only had a president under age 82
> in July 1972-March 1977 and January 2008-August 2009.
> Two men in that span didn't even GET the job before
> age 93.

The LDS Church is *designed* to be a gerontocracy. The British
monarchy isn't, even though it happens a lot.

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Subject: Re: Tina Turner Dead at 83 years old in Switzerland
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 by: Louis Epstein - Thu, 25 May 2023 02:51 UTC

A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> In article <u4m7ot$32f$1@reader2.panix.com>, Louis Epstein
> <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>
>> radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > ADDENDUM:
>> >
>> > STYBLE/Florida
>> > =============
>> > the gloriously advanced age of 82.
>>
>> May I enquire as to (having once spoken to someone
>> older than that about her then-living grandmother)
>> what the Styble scale of adjectives appropriate to ages is?
>>
>> In my newsgroup posting career I recall someone
>> complaining about an unflattering description of
>> Her since-deceased Britannic Majesty as "middle-aged"
>> (the complainant concurred in the lack of flattery,
>> but the quoted description had been around for some
>> years and he felt it outdated) and said she was
>> in fact "old",so I inquired as to how he would
>> describe the then-surviving Queen Mother,to which
>> he responded "very old".
>>
>> What age bracket rates "gloriously advanced" and
>> what are the further amplifications?
>>
>> The LDS Church,for example,in the period since
>> September 1955,has only had a president under age 82
>> in July 1972-March 1977 and January 2008-August 2009.
>> Two men in that span didn't even GET the job before
>> age 93.
>
>
> The LDS Church is *designed* to be a gerontocracy. The British
> monarchy isn't, even though it happens a lot.

Queen Elizabeth II was actually the first British monarch
to reach 82.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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Mr. B. S. ............you must be a very lonely person. Starved for attention. I'm actually beginning to feel sorry for you. What a pompous drag you are on this forum. So full of yourself.

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 by: radioacti...@gmail.c - Thu, 25 May 2023 06:21 UTC

Dear Sir "Mik..." ,
[can't address you respectfully by your proper screen name (much
less your real name), as my server/browser/software/whatever
only displays the truncated text "mik..."],

I've no idea why you ever bother to READ--much less react to--my postings.

So sorry you so find distasteful my writing style, or my thinking style, or perhaps just my mere existence on this planet.

For my own simple-minded, imbecilic part, I wish YOU nothing but good health, happiness and good fortune, and am sorry my prose somehow inspires such hatred, disdain, contempt, disrespect and/or just plain ol' negativity toward little ol' unimportant me. Yep, OF COURSE you're correct; I have precisely ZERO friends, for who in their right mind could tolerate even a polite "Hello" much less a conversation with the sort of semi-literate jerk who composes the kind of utter nonsense my postings constitute?

But at least, amid my ever-annoying-to-some textual musing here in alt-obits, I refuse to hide behind anonymity. So anyone so tortured by my stupid words knows the real name of that certifiable fool so moronically typing them, AND from whence--my specific state in the USA, at least--those ever-irritating words come.

Meanwhile, YOUR continuing nasty e-communiques directed in my direction could be originating from ANYONE and from ANYWHERE--even, perhaps, that condo immediately next door...all the while you're just possibly smiling disingenuously while nodding at me, whenever we happen cross paths while fetching our mail in the courtyard.

As you surely know, vitriol flung anonymously from the shadows is not only a familiar feature of both '50s film noir and internet "flaming", but ALSO a horrific hallmark of Stalinism.

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida

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On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-7, Louis Epstein wrote:
> > soon-to-resign Senator DiFi ! [Cue the late Herb Morrison and his
> > Hindenburg-schtick audio.]
> Still no commitment to resign (and Republicans might block her
> replacement on committees if she goes).
>

Simply outrageous that this shameless corrupt 90 year old with memory issues (according to her own staff) clings to her position instead of having the decency to step aside. Shudder to think who this woman is selling out her office to.

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On Wed, 24 May 2023 22:50:12 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws>
wrote:

>
>In any event one only FORDS a river if one is going by way of a shallow
>spot maintaining direct contact with the bottom as one walks or rides;
>is that possible on the Rio Grande near El Paso?

It's possible on the Rio Grande in hundreds of places. Have you never seen
the videos of hordes of people walking across in knee-deep water?

David Carson
--
Dead or Alive Data Base
http://www.doadb.com

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 by: Felix Badde - Thu, 25 May 2023 16:49 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 5:58:15 AM UTC-7, David Carson wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2023 22:50:12 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <l...@main.lekno.ws>
> wrote:
> >
> >In any event one only FORDS a river if one is going by way of a shallow
> >spot maintaining direct contact with the bottom as one walks or rides;
> >is that possible on the Rio Grande near El Paso?
> It's possible on the Rio Grande in hundreds of places. Have you never seen
> the videos of hordes of people walking across in knee-deep water?
>
> David Carson
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> Dead or Alive Data Base
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someone jerk me till i cream everywhere i need it so bad right now please plase oh please i beg of you for your souls

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 by: Lenona - Thu, 25 May 2023 20:46 UTC

I checked the IMDb.

Not too surprisingly, she was in only four feature-length films.

Last Action Hero, 1993
(The Mayor)

Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, 1985
(Aunty Entity)
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, 1978

Tommy, 1975
(The Acid Queen)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0877913/

I seem to remember, in the mid-1980s, someone at Newsweek(?) commenting on how currently-popular rock music was now spanning more than one generation.. That is, the writer pointed out that Turner, in her mega-successful comeback, was old enough to be Madonna's mother.

I'm not sure if young concertgoers, per se, are STILL willing to pay to see singers making comebacks in their 40s, these days.

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It's also kind of weird to realize that she was only four years younger than...Elvis!

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On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:54:19 AM UTC-7, Sanford wrote:
> https://www.reuters.com/world/singer-tina-turner-dies-aged-83-2023-05-24/
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> Sanford
> Strangely enough, it means
> the way across the river.

Ike and Tina together again in heaven

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On 5/24/2023 6:52 PM, Louis Epstein wrote:
> radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Meanwhile, regarding the late Tina Turner: I could be the only person in
>> America (besides, presumably, John Fogerty, Stu Cook and Doug Clifford) who
>> thinks Ike & Tina's smash-hit rendition did not improve on the original
>> "Proud Mary"; the CCR recording is not merely less kinetic--and in rock, pop
>> AND soul, that's usually a good thing--but FAR more nuanced.
>
> Am I alone in associating that song primarily with Jose Feliciano?
> I saw him performing it on television before ever hearing anyone else do it.

Yes, you probably are. I don't show him
ever having recorded it, but of course
there's no reason he couldn't have
performed it on occasion.

As for Ike & Tina, I've always found their
version incredibly irritating since they
altered the lyrics in the opening to say
exactly the opposite of what Fogerty wrote
and intended.

(Fogarty wrote: "and I never lost one minute
of sleeping worrying about the way things
might have been"; they sang: "and I never
lost one minute of sleeping, I was worrying
about the way things might have been".)

[Sorry for the late reply; I haven't had
Usenet access for a week and am just
catching up.]

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radioacti...@gmail.com wrote:

> Anyway, I enjoy quizzing people with this: What was Redd Foxx's real name? (Answer below.*)

> * John Sanford...though the name for what would be his most celebrated character was selected in tribute to Foxx's father and (presumably) older brother, both of whom were indeed named Fred Sanford.

He's across the river too. I was never a celebrity hound but I saw
my share of them in Hollywood. I hung mainly in old Hollywood.
As for Foxx, he could be found just about every day chowing down
and hanging out at Ben Frank's restaurant on Sunset.

My uncle also lived in Hollywood at the time. I remember one
night in the early 70s we were at Ben Franks with some other guys
from the poolroom and one of them suddenly gushes, "Oh, there's
Mick Jagger", or whatever, and my uncle replied without looking
up, "Fuck him too."

Nothing creative about the comment but I enjoyed it at the time.

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