film...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>> Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>>> In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
>>>>> into it.
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black
>>>> racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
>>>> isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
>>>> racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
>>>> are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
>>>> anyone else.
>>>
>>> I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who run,
>>> and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a case of
>>> grossly excessive force, but that's just a suspicion. Get in a
>>> fight with five big guys trained in dealing with the
>>> obstreperous, and things are very likely to not go well for
>>> you, irrespective of any racial issues.
>>>
>>> Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
>>>
>> From what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just about
>> everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass
>> kicked by the police. For a beating that severe, there must be
>> something we don't know yet. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if
>> it don't work.
>
> I suspect what turned them all into enraged monsters, was gassing
> themselves with all that chili spay, as they were douching their
> "subject", down with it? This suspicion comes from my own past
> experiences, breaking up fights, in garbage strewn, wet floored,
> chow halls... The jailhouse referees, always took it personal
> against the combatants, for the mess it made of their them & their
> uniforms..... I bet those Memphis lawdogs, were mad as hornets,
> while washing that bear spray off, & out, of their eyes, best they
> could.... Even well drenched in hot bug juice, he outran the
> whole pack of them, which only fanned their anger...
>
> The Monday morning Guesser

Or it could've been the white cop who got them all spun up, and
masterfully sucked them into the swamp of LEO systemic racism. At the
end of the day going forward, I allege that'll play in the news a lot
better than spray ricochet.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:38:47 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
> film...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
> >> Mike Van Pelt wrote:
> >>> In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
> >>>>> into it.
> >>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black
> >>>> racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
> >>>> isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
> >>>> racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
> >>>> are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
> >>>> anyone else.
> >>>
> >>> I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who run,
> >>> and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a case of
> >>> grossly excessive force, but that's just a suspicion. Get in a
> >>> fight with five big guys trained in dealing with the
> >>> obstreperous, and things are very likely to not go well for
> >>> you, irrespective of any racial issues.
> >>>
> >>> Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
> >>>
> >>> https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
> >>>
> >> From what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just about
> >> everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass
> >> kicked by the police. For a beating that severe, there must be
> >> something we don't know yet. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if
> >> it don't work.
> >
> > I suspect what turned them all into enraged monsters, was gassing
> > themselves with all that chili spay, as they were douching their
> > "subject", down with it? This suspicion comes from my own past
> > experiences, breaking up fights, in garbage strewn, wet floored,
> > chow halls... The jailhouse referees, always took it personal
> > against the combatants, for the mess it made of their them & their
> > uniforms..... I bet those Memphis lawdogs, were mad as hornets,
> > while washing that bear spray off, & out, of their eyes, best they
> > could.... Even well drenched in hot bug juice, he outran the
> > whole pack of them, which only fanned their anger...
> >
> > The Monday morning Guesser
> Or it could've been the white cop who got them all spun up, and
> masterfully sucked them into the swamp of LEO systemic racism. At the
> end of the day going forward, I allege that'll play in the news a lot
> better than spray ricochet.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Another one of their "Bros of the Badge" may be fired, just for being caught, saying, "They should have stomped that asshole into a grease spot on the street!" Gawd! What a PR nightmare for the rest of the force, when their whole beloved department appears to public, to be nothing but a gang of vicious thugs!

Officer Krumkee Jr.

Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:49:24 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
>> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> bill
>>>> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a
>>> Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just
>>> like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a
>>> thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and
>>> can be just as racist as anyone else.
>>>
>>> TB
>>>
>> I suppose you are attempting to put a false label on me so let me tell you
>> again, for the umpteenth time, I am not a racist. I couldn’t care less what
>> your skin color is or if you come from Venus, Mars or Uranus. I am, however
>> a stupidist, lazyist, criminalist and self-important pompous assist. None
>> of those things make me or require me to be a racist. Why, I even have
>> many Americans of European descent as friends. :-) I even used to hire
>> some “qualified” white individuals.
>>
>> Therefore, stuff it you stupid, self-important, pompous ass and find some
>> other untruth to blather on about.
>>
>> --
>> “If you love me I will always be in your heart. If you hate me I will
>> always be in your mind.” - Donald ‘William Shakespeare’ Trump
>
> lol You're the idiot who told me that rich White guys like me are
> responsible for the health problems of Black people. You hide your racism
> under a thin layer of politics. You have repeatedly admitted to being
> prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like you.
>
> TB
>

Hah, I knew it. You had to use lol. Anyway, how about hopping in your
wayback machine and digging up a post where I said “rich white guys like
you are responsible for the health problems of black people”. If I did it
must have been fairly recently because before you saved $8.7 mil on your
electric bill, I didn’t think you are rich.

Secondly, you accuse me of being a black racist and now you accuse me of
sticking up for the health of black people. You need to throw away your
shovel before the hole you are digging yourself into gets you to China.

--
“If you love me I will always be in your heart. If you hate me I will
always be in your mind.” - Donald ‘William Shakespeare’ Trump

film...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:38:47 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>> film...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>>>> Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>>>>> In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
>>>>>>> racism into it.
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black
>>>>>> racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
>>>>>> isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
>>>>>> racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black
>>>>>> cops are just as human as anyone else and can be just as
>>>>>> racist as anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who
>>>>> run, and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a
>>>>> case of grossly excessive force, but that's just a
>>>>> suspicion. Get in a fight with five big guys trained in
>>>>> dealing with the obstreperous, and things are very likely
>>>>> to not go well for you, irrespective of any racial issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
>>>>>
>>>> From what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just about
>>>> everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass
>>>> kicked by the police. For a beating that severe, there must
>>>> be something we don't know yet. -- bill Theory don't mean
>>>> squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> I suspect what turned them all into enraged monsters, was
>>> gassing themselves with all that chili spay, as they were
>>> douching their "subject", down with it? This suspicion comes
>>> from my own past experiences, breaking up fights, in garbage
>>> strewn, wet floored, chow halls... The jailhouse referees,
>>> always took it personal against the combatants, for the mess it
>>> made of their them & their uniforms..... I bet those Memphis
>>> lawdogs, were mad as hornets, while washing that bear spray
>>> off, & out, of their eyes, best they could.... Even well
>>> drenched in hot bug juice, he outran the whole pack of them,
>>> which only fanned their anger...
>>>
>>> The Monday morning Guesser
>> Or it could've been the white cop who got them all spun up, and
>> masterfully sucked them into the swamp of LEO systemic racism. At
>> the end of the day going forward, I allege that'll play in the
>> news a lot better than spray ricochet. -- bill Theory don't mean
>> squat if it don't work.
>
> Another one of their "Bros of the Badge" may be fired, just for
> being caught, saying, "They should have stomped that asshole into
> a grease spot on the street!" Gawd! What a PR nightmare for the
> rest of the force, when their whole beloved department appears to
> public, to be nothing but a gang of vicious thugs!

What passage of time do you think it will require before they tell us
why they think "that asshole" was an asshole deserving of being
stomped into a grease spot? I allege that it's past time for them to
put transparency on the table and tell us exactly how Nichols violated
Chris Rock's rules, because I didn't see it in any of the bodycam
footage. Did I miss it?

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
> >> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8,
> >>> film...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
> >>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
> >>>>>>> racism into it.
> >>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> --
> >>>>>>> bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
> >>>>>> example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
> >>>>>> against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
> >>>>>> frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
> >>>>>> layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
> >>>>>> else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
> >>>>> In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What
> >>>>> is your definition of race?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
> >>>>> person, is it racism?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
> >>>>> Force pilot, is it racism?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless
> >>>>> Asian, is it racism?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop,
> >>>>> is it racism?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
> >>>>> if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some
> >>>>> prejudice other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in
> >>>>> unfettered redefinitioning before, and probably will be
> >>>>> again in the passage of time, because the passage of time
> >>>>> is significant. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
> >>>>> work.
> >>>> Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
> >>>> are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
> >>>> are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
> >>>> ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
> >>>> historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
> >>>> civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
> >>>> puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as
> >>>> you, over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I
> >>>> thought it was a stretch myownself....
> >>>>
> >>>> Officer Krumpkee Jr.
> >>>
> >>> The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes is
> >>> part of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are usually
> >>> a lot of factors that go into these horrific incidents. The us
> >>> against them attitude that our police have is obviously part of
> >>> it. I don't know why anyone is surprised by Black racism. I've
> >>> met more than one Black bigot who announced it proudly. They
> >>> figured they were better than the rest.
> >>>
> >>> I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a haole
> >>> in Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White sailor, but
> >>> haole was the worst of it as far as those kanaka cops were
> >>> concerned, and they didn't mind telling you about it. I swear.
> >>> I think all of those guys really were stereotypically big. I
> >>> don't think those guys would have killed me. That would have
> >>> required too much paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have
> >>> minded roughing me up if that's what the job called for. I
> >>> thought it was mildly educational. I got a small sample of how
> >>> other people live all the time.
> >> More of your irrelevant bullshabble. Native Hawaiians are a race,
> >> and had they roughed up a haole, it could be racist - but if they
> >> roughed up another Native Hawaiian, it couldn't be. Race thumping
> >> same race is not racist. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
> >> don't work.
> >
> > That statement is ridiculous on the face of it. Prejudice against
> > you own race still fits the standard definitions of racism. Some
> > folks internalize the prejudices of the dominant culture,
> > regardless of the color of their own skin.
> LOL! At the end of the day going forward, you can't even settle on
> what your own definition of racism is. You told me earlier:
> -------------------------------------------
> You might start with the commonly understood definition of racism,
> instead of your very narrow definition.
> ------------------------------------------
> and then gave me a link that says:
> -----------------------------------------------
> Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different
> behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be
> divided based on the superiority of one race over another.[1][2][3] It
> may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed
> against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity.[2]
> ---------------------------------------------
> ..."one race over another."
> ..."different race"
>
> Different race. Different race. Not Same race.
> Now you've reoriented and changed the metric of your calculus in a
> very short passage of time about what "the commonly understood
> definition of racism" is?
> HawHawHaw! You're literally a hoot.
>
> Hey. Now maybe you want to disagree about what "the commonly
> understood definition" of "a hoot" is? So that you can post some more
> condescending and irrelevant bullshabble to demonstrate your (racial?)
> superiority over crackers? Or maybe you'd rather argue about what the
> "commonly understood definition" of "cracker" is?
> HawHawHaw!
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

As I said, It all hinges on definitions for you." You're playing word games. Racism doesn't magically disappear if the racist has the same skin color as the people they're prejudiced against. Racists aren't magically transformed by the color of their skin.

TB

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8,
>>>>> film...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>> bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
>>>>>>>>> racism into it.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>
--
>>>>>>>>> bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have
>>>>>>>> an example of a Black racist on this group. He's
>>>>>>>> prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like him and
>>>>>>>> says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices
>>>>>>>> under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just
>>>>>>>> as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
>>>>>>>> anyone else.
>>>>>>> In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can.
>>>>>>> What is your definition of race?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny
>>>>>>> Black person, is it racism?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white
>>>>>>> Air Force pilot, is it racism?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless
>>>>>>> Asian, is it racism?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black
>>>>>>> cop, is it racism?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges
>>>>>>> that if the prejudice is not about race, then it's
>>>>>>> some prejudice other than racism. But hey. I've been
>>>>>>> buried in unfettered redefinitioning before, and
>>>>>>> probably will be again in the passage of time, because
>>>>>>> the passage of time is significant. -- bill Theory
>>>>>>> don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>> Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
>>>>>> are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where
>>>>>> civilians are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't
>>>>>> kowtow & kiss ass, to the Police... The editorial just
>>>>>> implied, that historically, Black cops got their
>>>>>> prejudice against Black civilians, from White cops....
>>>>>> That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure many
>>>>>> had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism
>>>>>> used for LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch
>>>>>> myownself....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Officer Krumpkee Jr.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes
>>>>> is part of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are
>>>>> usually a lot of factors that go into these horrific
>>>>> incidents. The us against them attitude that our police
>>>>> have is obviously part of it. I don't know why anyone is
>>>>> surprised by Black racism. I've met more than one Black
>>>>> bigot who announced it proudly. They figured they were
>>>>> better than the rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a
>>>>> haole in Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White
>>>>> sailor, but haole was the worst of it as far as those
>>>>> kanaka cops were concerned, and they didn't mind telling
>>>>> you about it. I swear. I think all of those guys really
>>>>> were stereotypically big. I don't think those guys would
>>>>> have killed me. That would have required too much
>>>>> paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have minded
>>>>> roughing me up if that's what the job called for. I thought
>>>>> it was mildly educational. I got a small sample of how
>>>>> other people live all the time.
>>>> More of your irrelevant bullshabble. Native Hawaiians are a
>>>> race, and had they roughed up a haole, it could be racist -
>>>> but if they roughed up another Native Hawaiian, it couldn't
>>>> be. Race thumping same race is not racist. -- bill Theory
>>>> don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> That statement is ridiculous on the face of it. Prejudice
>>> against you own race still fits the standard definitions of
>>> racism. Some folks internalize the prejudices of the dominant
>>> culture, regardless of the color of their own skin.
>> LOL! At the end of the day going forward, you can't even settle
>> on what your own definition of racism is. You told me earlier:
>> ------------------------------------------- You might start with
>> the commonly understood definition of racism, instead of your
>> very narrow definition.
>> ------------------------------------------ and then gave me a
>> link that says: -----------------------------------------------
>> Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different
>> behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can
>> be divided based on the superiority of one race over
>> another.[1][2][3] It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or
>> antagonism directed against other people because they are of a
>> different race or ethnicity.[2]
>> --------------------------------------------- ..."one race over
>> another." ..."different race"
>>
>> Different race. Different race. Not Same race. Now you've
>> reoriented and changed the metric of your calculus in a very
>> short passage of time about what "the commonly understood
>> definition of racism" is? HawHawHaw! You're literally a hoot.
>>
>> Hey. Now maybe you want to disagree about what "the commonly
>> understood definition" of "a hoot" is? So that you can post some
>> more condescending and irrelevant bullshabble to demonstrate your
>> (racial?) superiority over crackers? Or maybe you'd rather argue
>> about what the "commonly understood definition" of "cracker" is?
>> HawHawHaw! -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> As I said, It all hinges on definitions for you." You're playing
> word games. Racism doesn't magically disappear if the racist has
> the same skin color as the people they're prejudiced against.
> Racists aren't magically transformed by the color of their skin.

LOL. Like I alleged - you're a hoot.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:
>> Who do you want to blame for implying racism,  beyond the actual
>> writer of the "opinion piece"?   Of course,  the cops would deny
>> any racism by themselves,  always have, and they always will say,
>> they hold no prejudices,  and they are simply doing their job,
>> although some members of their race exceeded the community's
>> expectations....   Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
>> agitators,  & instigators",  "The Media"?    That's a bit
>> presumptive complaint,  over one editorial,  don't you think?
>
> Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying to
> slip race in.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text color?

On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8, film...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
>>>>>> into it.
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>

And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
You sneaky cracker, you.

kmiller wrote:
> On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:
>>> Who do you want to blame for implying racism,  beyond the actual
>>> writer of the "opinion piece"?   Of course,  the cops would deny
>>> any racism by themselves,  always have, and they always will say,
>>> they hold no prejudices,  and they are simply doing their job,
>>> although some members of their race exceeded the community's
>>> expectations....   Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
>>> agitators,  & instigators",  "The Media"?    That's a bit
>>> presumptive complaint,  over one editorial,  don't you think?
>>
>> Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying
>> to slip race in.
>>
>> --
>> bill
>> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
> default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text
> color?

I don't know, but check to see if the light gray shows only in my
responses to Don or TB. For years, I've had to rewrap Don's posts when
I reply, because the quote marks are missing if I don't. Just
recently, I've also had to start rewrapping TB's posts. If TB has
recently changed his newsreader, there might be a clue there.
Otherwise, at the end of this paragraph going forward, I literally
still don't know.

Meanwhile, my Starlink has gotten back to almost where it was when I
first started.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tvseDn0c9HzC9gvK-rH11mlGviCHRtib/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

kmiller wrote:
> On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8, film...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
>>>>>>> into it.
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
> And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
> You sneaky cracker, you.

Look, so it, like, beats me. However comma I use the newsreader in
Seamonkey - which is a lot like Tbird.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

On 2/1/2023 8:34 PM, bfh wrote:
> kmiller wrote:
>> On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:
>>>> Who do you want to blame for implying racism,  beyond the actual
>>>> writer of the "opinion piece"?   Of course,  the cops would deny
>>>> any racism by themselves,  always have, and they always will say,
>>>> they hold no prejudices,  and they are simply doing their job,
>>>> although some members of their race exceeded the community's
>>>> expectations....   Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
>>>> agitators,  & instigators",  "The Media"?    That's a bit
>>>> presumptive complaint,  over one editorial,  don't you think?
>>>
>>> Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying to
>>> slip race in.
>>>
>>> --
>>> bill
>>> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>
>> Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
>> default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text
>> color?
>
> I don't know, but check to see if the light gray shows only in my
> responses to Don or TB.

Yep. That seems to be the case. Thanks. Since it seemed almost
supernatural I was gonna attribute it to God, or Jewish space lasers or
covid, but it's better to have a real explanation.

> For years, I've had to rewrap Don's posts when I
> reply, because the quote marks are missing if I don't. Just recently,
> I've also had to start rewrapping TB's posts. If TB has recently changed
> his newsreader, there might be a clue there. Otherwise, at the end of
> this paragraph going forward, I literally still don't know.
>
> Meanwhile, my Starlink has gotten back to almost where it was when I
> first started.
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tvseDn0c9HzC9gvK-rH11mlGviCHRtib/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true
>

On 01-Feb-23 19:29, kmiller wrote:
> On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:
>>> Who do you want to blame for implying racism,  beyond the actual
>>> writer of the "opinion piece"?   Of course,  the cops would deny
>>> any racism by themselves,  always have, and they always will say,
>>> they hold no prejudices,  and they are simply doing their job,
>>> although some members of their race exceeded the community's
>>> expectations....   Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
>>> agitators,  & instigators",  "The Media"?    That's a bit
>>> presumptive complaint,  over one editorial,  don't you think?
>>
>> Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying to
>> slip race in.
>>
>> --
>> bill
>> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
> default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text color?
Been kinda wonderin' that myself...

Take care and be well all,
Dusty
--
"Holding a grudge doesn't make you strong; it makes you bitter.
Forgiving doesn't make you weak; it sets you free."~~Dave Willis "The
Seven Laws of Love"

In article <Z6HCL.476498$8_id.151914@fx09.iad>, bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>kmiller wrote:
>> On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
>> And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
>> You sneaky cracker, you.
>
> Look, so it, like, beats me. However comma I use the newsreader in
>Seamonkey - which is a lot like Tbird.

Just guessing, I don't use it, but Seamonkey may be saving text as HTML.

I use good old trn 4.0 from the previous century; installed it under
Windows Subsystem for Linux and set Eternal September as my NNTP server.
It doesn't do HTML. Works just like it did when I was SSHing into
a Unix system.

If the text were HTML, somehow it's getting rendered to plain text
before I see it.

--
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mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

Mike Van Pelt wrote:
> In article <Z6HCL.476498$8_id.151914@fx09.iad>, bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>> kmiller wrote:
>>> On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
>>> And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
>>> You sneaky cracker, you.
>>
>> Look, so it, like, beats me. However comma I use the newsreader in
>> Seamonkey - which is a lot like Tbird.
>
> Just guessing, I don't use it, but Seamonkey may be saving text as HTML.
>
> I use good old trn 4.0 from the previous century; installed it under
> Windows Subsystem for Linux and set Eternal September as my NNTP server.
> It doesn't do HTML. Works just like it did when I was SSHing into
> a Unix system.
>
> If the text were HTML, somehow it's getting rendered to plain text
> before I see it.
>
I don't understand most of that, but it appears that Don uses google
groups, and it appears that TB recently switched to it. I'll leave it
up to Kevin to see if what he is seeing is related to "G2" in the
User-agent in the message headers.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.