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* y'allarthurvv vart
+* Re: y'allJerry Friedman
|+- Re: y'allTonyCooper
|`* Re: y'allBertel Lund Hansen
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+- Re: y'allLionel Edwards
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 by: arthurvv vart - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 01:56 UTC

Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?

I know it is slang. I know it is American. I think it is
mostly used in the South, but I think it can also be
used elsewhere in the States (maybe humorously).

Gratefully,
Navi

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 02:23 UTC

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?

Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".

> I know it is slang. I know it is American. I think it is
> mostly used in the South, but I think it can also be
> used elsewhere in the States (maybe humorously).

Originally used by southerners and black people, but it's been spreading
in recent decades, partly as an alternative to "you guys" that can't be
taken as implying anything about gender.

--
Jerry Friedman

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 by: TonyCooper - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 03:56 UTC

On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 19:23:15 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Friedman
<jerry.friedman99@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>
>Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
>
>> I know it is slang. I know it is American. I think it is
>> mostly used in the South, but I think it can also be
>> used elsewhere in the States (maybe humorously).
>
>Originally used by southerners and black people, but it's been spreading
>in recent decades, partly as an alternative to "you guys" that can't be
>taken as implying anything about gender.

I am mildly annoyed when a waitperson asks "What will you guys have to
drink", but have no problem with "What will y'all have to drink" when
it's directed to my wife and me.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: Lionel Edwards - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 08:50 UTC

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 2:56:15 AM UTC+1, arthurvv vart wrote:
> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>
> I know it is slang. I know it is American. I think it is
> mostly used in the South, but I think it can also be
> used elsewhere in the States (maybe humorously).
>
> Gratefully,
> Navi

In the stores and diners of the remote American South
"all y'all", to address a large group, is not at all unusual.
Hence the farewell:

"All y'all, y'all come back now".

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 by: Bertel Lund Hansen - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 10:09 UTC

Jerry Friedman wrote:

> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>
> Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".

Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?

--
Bertel, Denmark

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 13:03 UTC

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 6:09:36 AM UTC-4, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:

> >> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
> >
> > Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
> Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?

Regional variation.

Lionel Edwards's "all y'all" has developed in places where "y'all"
has become a singular.

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 by: TonyCooper - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 13:47 UTC

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:09:31 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
<gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> wrote:

> Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>>
>> Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
>
>Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?

Y'all are wrong. "Y'all" is the Swiss Army Knife of addressing
people. An entertainer on stage can say "I hope y'all enjoyed
yourself tonight" and be addressing a crowd of hundreds. He can then
say the same thing to a single fan.


--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: Stefan Ram - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 13:56 UTC

arthurvv vart <arthurvarr@gmail.com> writes:
>Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?

|A contraction of "you" and "all" is what forms "y'all"
|when addressing or referencing two or more people.
Web.

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 14:48 UTC

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 7:47:14 AM UTC-6, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:09:31 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
> <gade...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
>
> > Jerry Friedman wrote:
> >
> >> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> >>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
> >>
> >> Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
> >
> >Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?

> Y'all are wrong. "Y'all" is the Swiss Army Knife of addressing
> people. An entertainer on stage can say "I hope y'all enjoyed
> yourself tonight" and be addressing a crowd of hundreds. He can then
> say the same thing to a single fan.

By "wrong" you meant "right"?

--
Jerry Friedman

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 by: TonyCooper - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 14:58 UTC

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 07:48:46 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Friedman
<jerry.friedman99@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 7:47:14?AM UTC-6, TonyCooper wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:09:31 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
>> <gade...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
>>
>> > Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>> >>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>> >>
>> >> Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
>> >
>> >Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?
>
>> Y'all are wrong. "Y'all" is the Swiss Army Knife of addressing
>> people. An entertainer on stage can say "I hope y'all enjoyed
>> yourself tonight" and be addressing a crowd of hundreds. He can then
>> say the same thing to a single fan.
>
>By "wrong" you meant "right"?

Yes. One or many.
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 15:38 UTC

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 9:47:14 AM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:09:31 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
> <gade...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
>
> > Jerry Friedman wrote:
> >
> >> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> >>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
> >>
> >> Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
> >
> >Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?
> Y'all are wrong.

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself."
(Whitman, of course. Followed by
"I am large. I contain multitudes.")

> "Y'all" is the Swiss Army Knife of addressing
> people. An entertainer on stage can say "I hope y'all enjoyed
> yourself tonight" and be addressing a crowd of hundreds. He can then
> say the same thing to a single fan.

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 by: Ken Blake - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 16:11 UTC

On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:56:12 -0700 (PDT), arthurvv vart
<arthurvarr@gmail.com> wrote:

>Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?

Yes.

>I know it is slang.

Yes.

>I know it is American.

Yes.

>I think it is
>mostly used in the South,

Yes.

>but I think it can also be
>used elsewhere in the States (maybe humorously).

Yes, it's used all over the US, by people from the south, and not
necessarily humorously,

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 by: lar3ryca - Mon, 5 Jun 2023 16:34 UTC

On 2023-06-05 10:11, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:56:12 -0700 (PDT), arthurvv vart
> <arthurvarr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> I know it is slang.
>
> Yes.
>
>> I know it is American.
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> I think it is
>> mostly used in the South,
>
> Yes.
>
>> but I think it can also be
>> used elsewhere in the States (maybe humorously).
>
>
> Yes, it's used all over the US, by people from the south, and not
> necessarily humorously,

I hear it in Canada sometimes, though not as often as I've heard it
stateside [1].

[1] "in the USA', often heard in Canada.

--
I took a course in speed waiting.
Now I can wait an hour in only ten minutes.

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 by: Snidely - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 02:29 UTC

On Monday or thereabouts, Peter T. Daniels asked ...
> On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 9:47:14 AM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:09:31 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
>> <gade...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15?PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
>>>>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
>>>
>>> Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?
>> Y'all are wrong.
>
> "Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself."
> (Whitman, of course. Followed by
> "I am large. I contain multitudes.")

We need more Whitman here, just as we need more Blake.

And perhaps a performance of Bill Bolcom's setting of /Songs of
Innocence/. I'm not familiar with David Axelrod's homage.

>
>> "Y'all" is the Swiss Army Knife of addressing
>> people. An entertainer on stage can say "I hope y'all enjoyed
>> yourself tonight" and be addressing a crowd of hundreds. He can then
>> say the same thing to a single fan.

Would anyone from U2 say it after playing selection from their
Blake-adjacent album? What about members of the Royal Pipe and Drum
Corp? Has the Confederacy foisted this on the whole world?

/dps "okay, I was desperate to have a reason to keep Tony's paragraph"

--
"That’s where I end with this kind of conversation: Language is
crucial, and yet not the answer."
Jonathan Rosa, sociocultural and linguistic anthropologist,
Stanford.,2020

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 by: Snidely - Sun, 11 Jun 2023 02:29 UTC

on 6/5/2023, Stefan Ram supposed :
> arthurvv vart <arthurvarr@gmail.com> writes:
>> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
>
>> A contraction of "you" and "all" is what forms "y'all"
>> when addressing or referencing two or more people.
> Web.

Spider Silk.

/dps

--
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Well hung: curricle-hung in fact. Come sit by me and we'll test the
springs."
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 by: bruce bowser - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 20:40 UTC

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 6:09:36 AM UTC-4, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 7:56:15 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> >> Could one use "y'all" when addressing two people?
> >
> > Yes. Try searching for "both of y'all".
>
> Am I wrong when I think that it may be used to one person?

In that case, it is sometimes done with intent to insult that individual addressee [I så fald sker det nogle gange med forsæt for at fornærme den enkelte adressat].

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