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Is that what we moderns are now learning?

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On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 3:28:06 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:
> Either way it's all Darwinian. Species breed up to a tipping point;
> then the strongest prevail.

No, NOT necessarily the strongest, but rather, as Darwin wrote, the most adaptable.

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On 2/24/2022 12:20 AM, gggg gggg wrote:
> Re: If the relationship between citizens in a society
> isn't hierarchical, won't it become adversarial?
> Is that what we moderns are now learning?

By the way:
https://news.yahoo.com/home-tulsi-stakes-her-claim-043753200.html

Tulsi Gabbard
Corbin Bolies
Fri, February 25, 2022, 8:37 PM·2 min read
In this article:

In her 20-minute speech, Gabbard attempted to balance two opposing
viewpoints: the idea of a “common foundation” in the American public,
and the idea of a “powerful elite” aimed at canceling and silencing
those who speak out against the government.

She touched on multiple themes prevalent throughout the 2022
gathering—free speech, an “authoritarian” Canada, and the idea that
President Joe Biden views those who push back on him as “domestic
terrorists.”

“What they’re telling us is you are an enemy of the state,” she said.
“If you dare to oppose or even question the president, his
administration, or his policies, ‘shut up, step back fall in line, or
we’re coming after you.’ This isn’t some theory. This is reality.”

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On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 10:20:54 PM UTC-10, gggg gggg wrote:
> Is that what we moderns are now learning?

According to this:

- Confucianism also envisions a society based on a hierarchical system in which each individual’s role is determined by his or her position in society, as well as by familial and personal relationships.

Within the family unit, all individuals fall within a rigid hierarchy. Those with more subordinate positions in the hierarchy hold a general duty of obedience to the superior members of the family. Though there is considerable emphasis on the duties the lower-ranked family members owe to their higher-ranked relatives (two cardinal virtues of an ideal Confucian household are filial piety and obedience), those in superior positions have a reciprocal duty of caring, support and guidance to the subordinate members.

This idea of obedience and rigid application of hierarchical status also applied on a national scale. The same moral values and codes of conduct that prevailed in a family unit extended to the society and nation as a whole – the nation was, in effect, an extended family. This concept is reflected in the Chinese word ‘nation/state’ or guo jia (国家). The first character means ‘nation’ and the second means ‘family’. As within the family unit, loyalty and obedience to rulers were paramount virtues within society. In the same vein, the rulers are to behave toward those they govern in the same caring way in which fathers were encouraged to behave toward their children.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/confucius#:~:text=In%20an%20ideal%20Confucian%20society,as%20the%20foundation%20for%20harmony.&text=Confucianism%20also%20envisions%20a%20society,by%20familial%20and%20personal%20relationships

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