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 by: slider - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 17:29 UTC

Appearing on MSNBC on Sunday afternoon with guest Alison Morris,
Republican campaign consultant Susan Del Percio expressed disgust with
former president Donald Trump for using a visit to the NYPD's 17th
precinct on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attack to mostly talk about
himself.

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-sad-pathetic/

Cutting right to the chase, Del Percio lambasted the former president and
said the appearance was a last-minute unscheduled event because he was
being made to look bad by not appearing at other ceremonies planned for
the day.

"While President Biden went to both memorial sites, plus the Pentagon,
Donald Trump didn't go to Ground Zero or any of those formal ceremonies,"
host Morris began. "Susan, were you surprised by that, or by now, do you
just expect him to go his own way?"

"I expect him to go his own way," the MSNBC regular replied. "In all his
tenure, Donald Trump has never tried to serve this country. He's always
wanted something from the country. So it comes as no surprise that he
would at the last minute -- and it was last minute, it was unplanned --
decision to go to a firehouse and see NYPD and New York Fire Department
members just because he needed to do something because it looked so bad."

"He didn't care, because look at his words when he spoke," she continued.
"All he talked about was himself, not the sacrifice of the people that
served with these men and women who we lost 20 years ago. Is it
surprising? No. Is it shocking? No. Is it sad and pathetic that this man,
all he cares about is himself on such a solemn day? Yes."

Watch newsclip below:
https://youtu.be/t60AdFXQdKo?t=75

### - sounds about right really heh... trumpy still using 'every' possible
situation, tragic or otherwise, to grab a few measly headlines with his
usual brand of bs & divisive lies? and: me me me me meee! :)))

smile, the one's i feel genuinely sorry for being the gop itself believe
it or not heh, coz how in the hell are they EVER gonna recover from their
brush with trumpty-dumpty now?? they unleashed a monster and in only 4
years it devoured them! swallowed 'em whole!!! and now they's stuck!

i.e., they can't possibly have anything to do with him and yet they can't
afford to get rid of him either!? as such he's effectively SPLIT the
party! they don't want him and yet they've no choice but to keep/use him,
and when they do use him the general public are gonna again SWARM to vote
just to keep that fucker outta office! a no-win-no-win situation WHATEVER
they do!

the poor old gop are thus truly screwed! coz even when they DO eventually
get rid of him the masses ain't just gonna stop despising the party that
he represented for a VERY long time to come! and who have in many ways now
been exposed, via trumpy, for the cheating/lying shits everyone already in
their hearts KNEW them to be!

heh ;)

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 by: LowRider44M - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 01:38 UTC

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:29:20 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
> Appearing on MSNBC on Sunday afternoon with guest Alison Morris,
> Republican campaign consultant Susan Del Percio expressed disgust with
> former president Donald Trump for using a visit to the NYPD's 17th
> precinct on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attack to mostly talk about
> himself.
>
> https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-sad-pathetic/
>
> Cutting right to the chase, Del Percio lambasted the former president and
> said the appearance was a last-minute unscheduled event because he was
> being made to look bad by not appearing at other ceremonies planned for
> the day.
>
> "While President Biden went to both memorial sites, plus the Pentagon,
> Donald Trump didn't go to Ground Zero or any of those formal ceremonies,"
> host Morris began. "Susan, were you surprised by that, or by now, do you
> just expect him to go his own way?"
>
> "I expect him to go his own way," the MSNBC regular replied. "In all his
> tenure, Donald Trump has never tried to serve this country. He's always
> wanted something from the country. So it comes as no surprise that he
> would at the last minute -- and it was last minute, it was unplanned --
> decision to go to a firehouse and see NYPD and New York Fire Department
> members just because he needed to do something because it looked so bad."
>
> "He didn't care, because look at his words when he spoke," she continued.
> "All he talked about was himself, not the sacrifice of the people that
> served with these men and women who we lost 20 years ago. Is it
> surprising? No. Is it shocking? No. Is it sad and pathetic that this man,
> all he cares about is himself on such a solemn day? Yes."
>
> Watch newsclip below:
> https://youtu.be/t60AdFXQdKo?t=75
>
> ### - sounds about right really heh... trumpy still using 'every' possible
> situation, tragic or otherwise, to grab a few measly headlines with his
> usual brand of bs & divisive lies? and: me me me me meee! :)))
>
> smile, the one's i feel genuinely sorry for being the gop itself believe
> it or not heh, coz how in the hell are they EVER gonna recover from their
> brush with trumpty-dumpty now?? they unleashed a monster and in only 4
> years it devoured them! swallowed 'em whole!!! and now they's stuck!
>
> i.e., they can't possibly have anything to do with him and yet they can't
> afford to get rid of him either!? as such he's effectively SPLIT the
> party! they don't want him and yet they've no choice but to keep/use him,
> and when they do use him the general public are gonna again SWARM to vote
> just to keep that fucker outta office! a no-win-no-win situation WHATEVER
> they do!
>
> the poor old gop are thus truly screwed! coz even when they DO eventually
> get rid of him the masses ain't just gonna stop despising the party that
> he represented for a VERY long time to come! and who have in many ways now
> been exposed, via trumpy, for the cheating/lying shits everyone already in
> their hearts KNEW them to be!
>
> heh ;)

You can't grasp that the common people want to destroy the left and right.
That you are a relic from a different time, that needs conflict to survive, so you can feed.

Sincerely though...
Does Trump remind you more of poppa Goldin or poppa Ahern.
Definitely some transference. I think you have a crush on Trump.

I give the Afghans credit, they've defeated three empires.

[]

Why Trump signs are mushrooming across the US a year after 2020 election

When Drew and Marlene Proctor left their Jersey Shore, Pa., home to take their three-week trip across the back roads of the country for their honeymoon, they relished different sightings all along their journey.

But one thing remained constant no matter what state, city, town or village they passed through, Drew said, “and that was the amount of Trump signs we saw everywhere.”

https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/why-trump-signs-are-seen-across-us-a-year-after-2020-election/

“And I mean everywhere,” he added for emphasis. “They were in wealthy suburban neighborhoods, blue-collar middle-class towns. You would see them in farm fields and painted on the sides of businesses. Most of them were either large flags, although plenty of them were hand-painted homemade signs too.”

In total, the couple traveled through 12 states and logged more than 5,000 miles on their sojourn. I spoke with both Proctors last month as they sat outside a diner, enjoying a burger near Mt. Rushmore in Keystone, SD. As if on cue, a motorcyclist drove by with a Trump flag billowing out the back.

Drew, 47, said people who didn’t vote for Trump and regularly fly over these states might be surprised or even shocked by the show of support for the former president who lost to Joe Biden last fall.

Worse, he said, they might mistake the display as cultish.

“Those assumptions would be wrong,” said Drew, who is a service manager for a European industrial machining company.

“The 2016 presidential election was not about Donald Trump. If people took the time to listen, it was about the dissatisfaction with the establishments of both parties, and I will tell you that was brewing long before he stepped on that escalator in 2015.”

Marlene, a 43-year-old ER clinician supervisor, nodded.

“Trump was the consequence of people’s sentiments, he was not the cause.”

Strategists and reporters often dismiss political signs as an unreliable way to gauge enthusiasm for a candidate. Back in 2016, as Trump signs abounded across America, experts insisted that polls predicting a Hillary Clinton victory were a better indicator of the result. And yet the Democrat lost to the unconventional Republican in a massive upset.

“Putting those signs up was their way of saying this is the new resistance,” said Youngstown State University political scientist Paul Sracic. “We saw them in places that historically supported Democrats, like here in Trumbull and Mahoning counties, two of the bluest counties in Ohio, as well as blue counties in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.”

That the signs are popping up again in these same places today “shows the transition from blue to red is permanent,” Sracic said.

In 2020, Trump signs were even more dominant across the US than they were in 2016. And though he lost his bid for re-election, polls that predicted a drubbing were wrong again. Instead, Trump suffered a narrow defeat in a squeaker election.

One year later, voters are still showing their support by the only means they have at their disposal — Trump signs that declare they aren’t going anywhere and their passion remains intense.

“A Trump sign symbolizes a rejection of the status quo. It is also aspirational, a reminder that we were all part of something bigger than ourselves, bigger than one man, and we are still here,” said Drew, adding that both he and Marlene voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020.

The Proctors’ observations mirror my own. After traveling thousands of miles from my home in western Pennsylvania to Montana and all parts in between this summer, I saw Trump signs everywhere.

Whether I was on a gravel road just outside Hannibal, Mo., a dirt track in West Yellowstone, Mont., or on a neatly paved tree-lined neighborhood in suburban St. Louis, there was an abundance of signs and flags supporting the ex-president.

When I asked people why they were still putting their pro-Trump feelings on display, they all echoed the Proctors’ sentiments: It wasn’t about him, it was about them. It wasn’t about being unable to let go of his loss or their refusal to accept Biden as their president. It wasn’t about being “left” or “right,” either. Rather, it was about insiders versus outsiders — with Trump supporters most definitely feeling like the outsiders.

And, with the midterm elections coming up next year, the Democratic Party should be concerned.

Because, even after Trump’s shocking win in 2016, the insiders on the coasts, who dominate the nation’s culture and media, still don’t understand the people who voted for him.

“And that is OK, I guess,” Drew said. “They will, I suppose, understand when the next election happens. There is a pretty good chance they may end up being surprised by the results.”

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 by: o'Mahoney - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:45 UTC

On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 18:38:45 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M
<intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:29:20 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
>> Appearing on MSNBC on Sunday afternoon with guest Alison Morris,
>> Republican campaign consultant Susan Del Percio expressed disgust with
>> former president Donald Trump for using a visit to the NYPD's 17th
>> precinct on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attack to mostly talk about
>> himself.
>>
>> https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-sad-pathetic/
>>
>> Cutting right to the chase, Del Percio lambasted the former president and
>> said the appearance was a last-minute unscheduled event because he was
>> being made to look bad by not appearing at other ceremonies planned for
>> the day.
>>
>> "While President Biden went to both memorial sites, plus the Pentagon,
>> Donald Trump didn't go to Ground Zero or any of those formal ceremonies,"
>> host Morris began. "Susan, were you surprised by that, or by now, do you
>> just expect him to go his own way?"
>>
>> "I expect him to go his own way," the MSNBC regular replied. "In all his
>> tenure, Donald Trump has never tried to serve this country. He's always
>> wanted something from the country. So it comes as no surprise that he
>> would at the last minute -- and it was last minute, it was unplanned --
>> decision to go to a firehouse and see NYPD and New York Fire Department
>> members just because he needed to do something because it looked so bad."
>>
>> "He didn't care, because look at his words when he spoke," she continued.
>> "All he talked about was himself, not the sacrifice of the people that
>> served with these men and women who we lost 20 years ago. Is it
>> surprising? No. Is it shocking? No. Is it sad and pathetic that this man,
>> all he cares about is himself on such a solemn day? Yes."
>>
>> Watch newsclip below:
>> https://youtu.be/t60AdFXQdKo?t=75
>>
>> ### - sounds about right really heh... trumpy still using 'every' possible
>> situation, tragic or otherwise, to grab a few measly headlines with his
>> usual brand of bs & divisive lies? and: me me me me meee! :)))
>>
>> smile, the one's i feel genuinely sorry for being the gop itself believe
>> it or not heh, coz how in the hell are they EVER gonna recover from their
>> brush with trumpty-dumpty now?? they unleashed a monster and in only 4
>> years it devoured them! swallowed 'em whole!!! and now they's stuck!
>>
>> i.e., they can't possibly have anything to do with him and yet they can't
>> afford to get rid of him either!? as such he's effectively SPLIT the
>> party! they don't want him and yet they've no choice but to keep/use him,
>> and when they do use him the general public are gonna again SWARM to vote
>> just to keep that fucker outta office! a no-win-no-win situation WHATEVER
>> they do!
>>
>> the poor old gop are thus truly screwed! coz even when they DO eventually
>> get rid of him the masses ain't just gonna stop despising the party that
>> he represented for a VERY long time to come! and who have in many ways now
>> been exposed, via trumpy, for the cheating/lying shits everyone already in
>> their hearts KNEW them to be!
>>
>> heh ;)
>
>You can't grasp that the common people want to destroy the left and right.
>That you are a relic from a different time, that needs conflict to survive, so you can feed.

Beautiful. That's actually poetry. But you knew that, right?

>
>Sincerely though...
>Does Trump remind you more of poppa Goldin or poppa Ahern.
>Definitely some transference. I think you have a crush on Trump.

I'll forgive you for Trump. You have to realise I'm Australian and
Trump is not good for us. We are not stupid. We are only 25 million,
one third of Cali but we are the same stock as you, mixed,
immigration, give us your poor and dispossessed, etc etc. We need the
US and the US needs us, we are an unsinkable aircraft carrier being a
CONTINENT, one of 7. The US has gots the umbrella, we gots about a
third of the world's uranium, a third of the world's aluminium,
literally mountains of iron ore - we provided China's cities with
their steel

So, good trade. Protection for the only ally who has fought back to
back with the US in every war since WW2, more so than even GB or
Canada.

And a fucking really big unsinkable base for a big military
contingent.

Good fucking work. Now, on with business.

>
>I give the Afghans credit, they've defeated three empires.
>
>[]
>
>Why Trump signs are mushrooming across the US a year after 2020 election
>
>When Drew and Marlene Proctor left their Jersey Shore, Pa., home to take their three-week trip across the back roads of the country for their honeymoon, they relished different sightings all along their journey.
>
>But one thing remained constant no matter what state, city, town or village they passed through, Drew said, “and that was the amount of Trump signs we saw everywhere.”
>
>https://nypost.com/2021/09/11/why-trump-signs-are-seen-across-us-a-year-after-2020-election/
>
>“And I mean everywhere,” he added for emphasis. “They were in wealthy suburban neighborhoods, blue-collar middle-class towns. You would see them in farm fields and painted on the sides of businesses. Most of them were either large flags, although plenty of them were hand-painted homemade signs too.”
>
>In total, the couple traveled through 12 states and logged more than 5,000 miles on their sojourn. I spoke with both Proctors last month as they sat outside a diner, enjoying a burger near Mt. Rushmore in Keystone, SD. As if on cue, a motorcyclist drove by with a Trump flag billowing out the back.
>
>Drew, 47, said people who didn’t vote for Trump and regularly fly over these states might be surprised or even shocked by the show of support for the former president who lost to Joe Biden last fall.
>
>Worse, he said, they might mistake the display as cultish.
>
>“Those assumptions would be wrong,” said Drew, who is a service manager for a European industrial machining company.
>
>“The 2016 presidential election was not about Donald Trump. If people took the time to listen, it was about the dissatisfaction with the establishments of both parties, and I will tell you that was brewing long before he stepped on that escalator in 2015.”
>
>Marlene, a 43-year-old ER clinician supervisor, nodded.
>
>“Trump was the consequence of people’s sentiments, he was not the cause.”
>
>Strategists and reporters often dismiss political signs as an unreliable way to gauge enthusiasm for a candidate. Back in 2016, as Trump signs abounded across America, experts insisted that polls predicting a Hillary Clinton victory were a better indicator of the result. And yet the Democrat lost to the unconventional Republican
in a massive upset.
>
>“Putting those signs up was their way of saying this is the new resistance,” said Youngstown State University political scientist Paul Sracic. “We saw them in places that historically supported Democrats, like here in Trumbull and Mahoning counties, two of the bluest counties in Ohio, as well as blue counties in Michigan,
Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.”
>
>That the signs are popping up again in these same places today “shows the transition from blue to red is permanent,” Sracic said.
>
>In 2020, Trump signs were even more dominant across the US than they were in 2016. And though he lost his bid for re-election, polls that predicted a drubbing were wrong again. Instead, Trump suffered a narrow defeat in a squeaker election.
>
>One year later, voters are still showing their support by the only means they have at their disposal — Trump signs that declare they aren’t going anywhere and their passion remains intense.
>
>“A Trump sign symbolizes a rejection of the status quo. It is also aspirational, a reminder that we were all part of something bigger than ourselves, bigger than one man, and we are still here,” said Drew, adding that both he and Marlene voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020.
>
>The Proctors’ observations mirror my own. After traveling thousands of miles from my home in western Pennsylvania to Montana and all parts in between this summer, I saw Trump signs everywhere.
>
>Whether I was on a gravel road just outside Hannibal, Mo., a dirt track in West Yellowstone, Mont., or on a neatly paved tree-lined neighborhood in suburban St. Louis, there was an abundance of signs and flags supporting the ex-president.
>
>When I asked people why they were still putting their pro-Trump feelings on display, they all echoed the Proctors’ sentiments: It wasn’t about him, it was about them. It wasn’t about being unable to let go of his loss or their refusal to accept Biden as their president. It wasn’t about being “left” or “right,” either. Rather, it
was about insiders versus outsiders — with Trump supporters most definitely feeling like the outsiders.
>
>And, with the midterm elections coming up next year, the Democratic Party should be concerned.
>
>Because, even after Trump’s shocking win in 2016, the insiders on the coasts, who dominate the nation’s culture and media, still don’t understand the people who voted for him.
>
>“And that is OK, I guess,” Drew said. “They will, I suppose, understand when the next election happens. There is a pretty good chance they may end up being surprised by the results.”


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