David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
....
>> | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>> | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>> | presidential power.
>> |
>> | 1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>> | false and fraudulent information to the American public
>> | claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>> |
>> | 2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>> | Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>> | would support his fake election claims.
>> |
>> | 3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>> | Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>> | violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>> |
>> | 4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>> | officials, and state legislators, to change election
>> | results.
>> |
>> | 5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>> | associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>> | create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>> | Congress and the National Archives.
>> |
>> | 6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>> | in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>> |
>> | 7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>> | multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>> | action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>> | leave the Capitol.
>> | ...
> ...
>Cheney is an idiot.

Devastating refutation!

--bks

In article <t7vh5v$1go$1@reader1.panix.com>,
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> >Cheney is an idiot.
>
> Devastating refutation!

It's a good thing then republicans would never set him up in
public office.

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On 6/10/2022 6:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/10/22 08:09, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> | Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House
>>>> | committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues
>>>> | that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe
>>>> | Mr. Pence should be hanged.
>>
>>   | ...
>>   | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>>   | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>>   | presidential power.
>>   |
>>   |   1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>>   |      false and fraudulent information to the American public
>>   |      claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>>   |
>>   |   2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>>   |      Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>>   |      would support his fake election claims.
>>   |
>>   |   3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>>   |      Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>>   |      violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>>   |
>>   |   4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>>   |      officials, and state legislators, to change election
>>   |      results.
>>   |
>>   |   5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>>   |      associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>>   |      create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>>   |      Congress and the National Archives.
>>   |
>>   |   6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>>   |      in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>>   |
>>   |   7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>>   |      multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>>   |      action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>>   |      leave the Capitol.
>>   | ...
>> <https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-election-plan/index.html>
>>
>
> Cheney is

principled, and a defender of the Constitution against attempts to destroy it by
Trump and the rest of the Republiscum/QAnon party.

On 6/10/2022 6:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/10/22 08:09, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> | Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House
>>>> | committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues
>>>> | that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe
>>>> | Mr. Pence should be hanged.
>>
>>   | ...
>>   | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>>   | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>>   | presidential power.
>>   |
>>   |   1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>>   |      false and fraudulent information to the American public
>>   |      claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>>   |
>>   |   2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>>   |      Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>>   |      would support his fake election claims.
>>   |
>>   |   3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>>   |      Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>>   |      violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>>   |
>>   |   4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>>   |      officials, and state legislators, to change election
>>   |      results.
>>   |
>>   |   5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>>   |      associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>>   |      create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>>   |      Congress and the National Archives.
>>   |
>>   |   6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>>   |      in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>>   |
>>   |   7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>>   |      multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>>   |      action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>>   |      leave the Capitol.
>>   | ...
>> <https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-election-plan/index.html>
>>
>
> Cheney

told the unvarnished truth in all seven points above. Trump did all of that,
and more, in an unethical, illegal attempt to stay in office following a free,
fair and clean election he lost. This is not in rational dispute.

On 6/10/2022 6:32 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>>> | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>>> | presidential power.
>>> |
>>> | 1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>>> | false and fraudulent information to the American public
>>> | claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> |
>>> | 2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>>> | Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>>> | would support his fake election claims.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> |
>>> | 3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>>> | Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>>> | violation of the US Constitution and the law.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> |
>>> | 4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>>> | officials, and state legislators, to change election
>>> | results.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> |
>>> | 5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>>> | associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>>> | create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>>> | Congress and the National Archives.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> |
>>> | 6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>>> | in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> |
>>> | 7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>>> | multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>>> | action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>>> | leave the Capitol.

True and not in rational dispute.

>>> | ...
>> ...
>> Cheney is an idiot.
>
> Devastating refutation!

Every one of Cheney's seven points above is irrefutable. Trump and his band of
criminals did every one of those. All seven are thoroughly documented in the
public record and in sworn testimony by witnesses who either were present or
were even participants.

Note that in his empty belch of a response, Hartung did *not* say that any of
Cheney's statements is false. He just doesn't like them, because they fully
establish Trump's criminality and assault on democracy, but Hartung *knows* that
all seven statements are true. Yes, the U.S. is a democracy, and peaceful
transitions of power from a losing president to the legitimate winner have been,
until Trump, a fundamental element of "our democracy." Add all the qualifiers
you want — "representative," "constitutional," etc. — but we are a democracy,
and Trump tried to destroy it.

It defies reason that the DoJ has not announced criminal charges against Trump,
Giuliani, Meadows and two to three dozen criminal Republiscum/QAnon members of
Congress.

On 6/10/2022 6:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/10/22 08:09, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> | Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House
>>>> | committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues
>>>> | that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe
>>>> | Mr. Pence should be hanged.
>>
>>   | ...
>>   | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>>   | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>>   | presidential power.
>>   |
>>   |   1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>>   |      false and fraudulent information to the American public
>>   |      claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>>   |
>>   |   2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>>   |      Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>>   |      would support his fake election claims.
>>   |
>>   |   3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>>   |      Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>>   |      violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>>   |
>>   |   4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>>   |      officials, and state legislators, to change election
>>   |      results.
>>   |
>>   |   5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>>   |      associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>>   |      create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>>   |      Congress and the National Archives.
>>   |
>>   |   6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>>   |      in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>>   |
>>   |   7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>>   |      multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>>   |      action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>>   |      leave the Capitol.
>>   | ...
>> <https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-election-plan/index.html>
>>
>
> Cheney is an idiot. There: I farted and belched, and I feel better.

Exactly.

David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vcydnSK1qJwd2D7_nZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On 6/10/22 08:09, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> | Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House
>>>> | committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues
>>>> | that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe
>>>> | Mr. Pence should be hanged.
>>
>> | ...
>> | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>> | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>> | presidential power.
>> |
>> | 1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>> | false and fraudulent information to the American public
>> | claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>> |
>> | 2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>> | Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>> | would support his fake election claims.
>> |
>> | 3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>> | Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>> | violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>> |
>> | 4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>> | officials, and state legislators, to change election
>> | results.
>> |
>> | 5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>> | associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>> | create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>> | Congress and the National Archives.
>> |
>> | 6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>> | in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>> |
>> | 7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>> | multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>> | action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>> | leave the Capitol.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-ov
>> erturn-election-plan/index.html>
>
> Cheney is an idiot.
>

Because she has departed from the
"Trump is right, always believe Trump"
Republican orthodoxy?

On 6/10/2022 11:11 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:vcydnSK1qJwd2D7_nZ2dnUU7-LOdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On 6/10/22 08:09, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>> | Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House
>>>>> | committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues
>>>>> | that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe
>>>>> | Mr. Pence should be hanged.
>>>
>>> | ...
>>> | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>>> | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>>> | presidential power.
>>> |
>>> | 1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>>> | false and fraudulent information to the American public
>>> | claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>>> |
>>> | 2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>>> | Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>>> | would support his fake election claims.
>>> |
>>> | 3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>>> | Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>>> | violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>>> |
>>> | 4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>>> | officials, and state legislators, to change election
>>> | results.
>>> |
>>> | 5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>>> | associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>>> | create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>>> | Congress and the National Archives.
>>> |
>>> | 6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>>> | in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>>> |
>>> | 7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>>> | multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>>> | action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>>> | leave the Capitol.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-ov
>>> erturn-election-plan/index.html>
>>
>> Cheney is an idiot.
>>
>
>
> Because she has departed from the
> "Trump is right, always believe Trump"
> Republican orthodoxy?

Because she has spoken the unvarnished truth about Trump and his criminal
conduct, and that makes Hartung miserable. Hartung has often lied in the last
18 months about not wanting Trump to run again, but we know he's lying. He
adores Trump, slobbers over him, and wants him to run again in 2024 and win. If
these true statements by Cheney about Trump's perfidy resonate with voters, it
will damage his chances, and that makes Hartung unhappy.

Hartung knows that all seven points are true.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 13:09:26 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>> | Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House
>>> | committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues
>>> | that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe
>>> | Mr. Pence should be hanged.
>
> | ...
> | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
> | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
> | presidential power.
> |
> | 1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
> | false and fraudulent information to the American public
> | claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
> |
> | 2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
> | Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
> | would support his fake election claims.
> |
> | 3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
> | Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
> | violation of the US Constitution and the law.
> |
> | 4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
> | officials, and state legislators, to change election
> | results.
> |
> | 5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
> | associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
> | create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
> | Congress and the National Archives.
> |
> | 6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
> | in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
> |
> | 7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
> | multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
> | action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
> | leave the Capitol.
> | ...
><https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-election-plan/index.html>
>
> --bks

CNN and Bradley - lying perfectly together.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 13:32:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>> | President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to
>>> | overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of
>>> | presidential power.
>>> |
>>> | 1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread
>>> | false and fraudulent information to the American public
>>> | claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
>>> |
>>> | 2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the
>>> | Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice
>>> | would support his fake election claims.
>>> |
>>> | 3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President
>>> | Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in
>>> | violation of the US Constitution and the law.
>>> |
>>> | 4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election
>>> | officials, and state legislators, to change election
>>> | results.
>>> |
>>> | 5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump
>>> | associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to
>>> | create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to
>>> | Congress and the National Archives.
>>> |
>>> | 6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob
>>> | in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
>>> |
>>> | 7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored
>>> | multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate
>>> | action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to
>>> | leave the Capitol.
>>> | ...
>> ...
>>Cheney is an idiot.
>
>Devastating refutation!
>
> --bks

Why use paragraphs when four words suffice?

>>> | John Eastman revealed Friday in a court filing that he
>>> | routinely communicated with Donald Trump either directly or
>>> | through "six conduits" in the weeks ahead of the Jan. 6
>>> | insurrection.
>
>>>The Claremont Institute is the nexus of American fascism.

|
| On the morning of Jan. 6, 2021, Representative Andy Biggs,
| Republican of Arizona, called his state's House speaker,
| Rusty Bowers, and asked him to overturn the results of the
| 2020 presidential election, Mr. Bowers testified on Tuesday.
|
| Later that day, Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of
| Wisconsin, sought to hand deliver fake electors from his
| state and from Michigan to Vice President Mike Pence, texts
| released by the committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack
| showed. An aide to Mr. Pence, told of Mr. Johnson's
| intention, responded to an aide to the senator, "Don't give
| that to him."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/21/us/jan-6-hearing-trump>

--bks

>>>> | John Eastman revealed Friday in a court filing that he
>>>> | routinely communicated with Donald Trump either directly or
>>>> | through "six conduits" in the weeks ahead of the Jan. 6
>>>> | insurrection.
>>
>>>>The Claremont Institute is the nexus of American fascism.

Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
| ...
| Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
| that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
| he was asking for.
|
| "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
| we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
| don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
| through what he said. But both myself and others in my
| group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
| remembered that specifically."
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>

--bks

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:54:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>> | John Eastman revealed Friday in a court filing that he
>>>>> | routinely communicated with Donald Trump either directly or
>>>>> | through "six conduits" in the weeks ahead of the Jan. 6
>>>>> | insurrection.
>>>
>>>>>The Claremont Institute is the nexus of American fascism.
>
>Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
> | ...
> | Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
> | that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
> | he was asking for.
> |
> | "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
> | we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
> | don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
> | through what he said. But both myself and others in my
> | group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
> | remembered that specifically."
> | ...
><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>
>
> --bks

Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".

Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:54:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
> ...
>>Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
>> | ...
>> | Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
>> | that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
>> | he was asking for.
>> |
>> | "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
>> | we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
>> | don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
>> | through what he said. But both myself and others in my
>> | group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
>> | remembered that specifically."
>> | ...
>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>
>
>Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".

It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.

--bks

In article <t8v0hi$rav$1@reader1.panix.com>,
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> >Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>
> It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
> to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.

Hearsay is admissible under some circumstances. It's a matter of
how you cross examine.

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On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:05:06 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:54:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>Sherman) wrote:
>> ...
>>>Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
>>> | ...
>>> | Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
>>> | that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
>>> | he was asking for.
>>> |
>>> | "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
>>> | we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
>>> | don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
>>> | through what he said. But both myself and others in my
>>> | group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
>>> | remembered that specifically."
>>> | ...
>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>
>>
>>Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>
>It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>
> --bks
<LOL> That's what "hearsay" is, Dummy.

On 6/22/2022 11:43 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:05:06 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:54:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
>>>> | ...
>>>> | Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
>>>> | that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
>>>> | he was asking for.
>>>> |
>>>> | "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
>>>> | we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
>>>> | don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
>>>> | through what he said. But both myself and others in my
>>>> | group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
>>>> | remembered that specifically."
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>
>>>
>>> Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>>
>> It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>> to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>>
>> --bks
> <LOL> That's what "hearsay" is, Dummy.

No, BlueGirl, you stupid does-as-you're-told sheep, it isn't.

If Bowers says "Giuliani told *me* 'We've got lots of theories, but no
evidence'", that's not hearsay. If Bowers says, 'Giuliani said 'We've got lots
of theories, but no evidence.' Rep. Brenda Barton (R) told me he said it,"
that's hearsay.

In the first case, Bowers is testifying to what he *directly* witnessed (heard
Giuliani say). In the second, Bowers doesn't know if Giuliani said it or not;
he only knows that someone else said he said it. The first is not hearsay; the
second is.

You and Kremlin Girl are fucking morons, BlueGirl.

--
BlueGirl is afraid of Rudy

On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:30:05 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <t8v0hi$rav$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>
>> >Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>>
>> It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>> to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>
>Hearsay is admissible under some circumstances. It's a matter of
>how you cross examine.

And since all the Republicans that would ask difficult questions were
removed from the committee, it shows what a show trial this really is.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:43:41 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:05:06 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:54:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>Sherman) wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
>>>> | ...
>>>> | Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
>>>> | that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
>>>> | he was asking for.
>>>> |
>>>> | "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
>>>> | we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
>>>> | don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
>>>> | through what he said. But both myself and others in my
>>>> | group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
>>>> | remembered that specifically."
>>>> | ...
>>>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>
>>>
>>>Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>>
>>It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>>to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>>
>> --bks
><LOL> That's what "hearsay" is, Dummy.

Bradley always denies facts and reality.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 06:58:41 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:30:05 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <t8v0hi$rav$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> >Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>>>
>>> It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>>> to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>>
>>Hearsay is admissible under some circumstances. It's a matter of
>>how you cross examine.
>
>And since all the Republicans that would ask difficult questions were
>removed from the committee, it shows what a show trial this really is.

Republican lie.

GOP house members declined to take part.

Nevertheless, the committee has discovered many facts and one of them
is that the insurrection on Jan 6 was inspired and abetted by the
outgoing President.

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On 6/23/2022 3:58 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:30:05 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <t8v0hi$rav$1@reader1.panix.com>,
>> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>>> Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>>>
>>> It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>>> to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>>
>> Hearsay is admissible under some circumstances. It's a matter of
>> how you cross examine.
>
> And since all the Republicans that would ask difficult questions were
> removed from the committee,

*By the Republiscum/QAnon leadership*

A Year Later, Some Republicans Second-Guess Boycotting the Jan. 6 Panel

The decision by Representative Kevin McCarthy not to appoint Republicans to
the committee has given Democrats the chance to set out an uninterrupted
narrative.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/22/us/politics/jan-6-committee-republicans.html

Stupid fucking childish assholes are getting what they deserve.

On 6/23/2022 4:00 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:43:41 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
> <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:05:06 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 21:54:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> Guiliani was Trump's attorney at this point:
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> | Bowers also recalled Giuliani acknowledging at one point
>>>>> | that he didn't yet have the evidence to back up the action
>>>>> | he was asking for.
>>>>> |
>>>>> | "My recollection [is] he said, 'We've got lots of theories;
>>>>> | we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers said. "And I
>>>>> | don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think
>>>>> | through what he said. But both myself and others in my
>>>>> | group -- the three in my group and my counsel -- both
>>>>> | remembered that specifically."
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/21/fourth-january-6-hearing-takeaways/>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like hearsay testimony for alternate "facts".
>>>
>>> It's not hearsay, Kremlin Girl. Bowers is testifying
>>> to what *he* heard. And testifying **under oath**.
>>>
>>> --bks
>> <LOL> That's what "hearsay" is, Dummy.
>
> Bradley always denies facts and reality.

It's not "hearsay," Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness. Hearsay is when someone
testifies to what *someone else* heard, and that someone else is not present to
be questioned.

You ignorant fucks have never understood this and never will.

>>>>>> | John Eastman revealed Friday in a court filing that he
>>>>>> | routinely communicated with Donald Trump either directly or
>>>>>> | through "six conduits" in the weeks ahead of the Jan. 6
>>>>>> | insurrection.
>>>>
>>>>>>The Claremont Institute is the nexus of American fascism.

|
| Federal Agents Seized Phone of John Eastman, Key Figure in
| Jan. 6 Plan
|
| The action suggests that the criminal inquiry is
| accelerating into the efforts to help overturn the results
| of the 2020 election.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/politics/john-eastman-jan-6.html>

--bks

In article <t9daig$kjb$2@reader2.panix.com>,
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> | The action suggests that the criminal inquiry is
> | accelerating into the efforts to help overturn the results
> | of the 2020 election.

What kind of lawyer is so stupid to void the lawyer/client
privilege.

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