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* Another chapter in Portland's unhoused sagaTechnobarbarian
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 by: Technobarbarian - Thu, 25 May 2023 17:06 UTC

"City Reaches Tentative Settlement in Americans With Disabilities Act Lawsuit Over Sidewalk Camps
The lawsuit is an effort to prohibit sidewalk camping in Portland. Any settlement would require City Council approval."

"Last fall, a group of Portlanders with disabilities sued the city of Portland over street camping, alleging the city was violating the Americans with Disabilities Act by allowing homeless people to block sidewalks.

The two parties, after months of negotiations, appear to have reached a settlement. And next week, the Portland City Council will vote on whether to approve it.

The details of the agreement aren’t clear, but one of the plaintiffs, Tiana Tozer, wrote in an email Tuesday morning that the settlement is “not everything we wanted, it won’t happen overnight, but we are confident that it will help people with disabilities get a faster response when sidewalks are blocked, and eventually deter camping on the sidewalks.”

Update, Wednesday morning: The terms of the tentative agreement appear favorable to the city. They include: the city prioritizing the clearing of sidewalk-blocking camps and setting up a hotline to report such campsites (the city already operates an online portal for that purpose); the city allocating at least $3 million annually to remove tents; the city publishing annual reports to track its compliance with the settlement; and each plaintiff receiving $5,000 and reimbursement for attorney fees."
[snip]

https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/05/24/city-reaches-tentative-settlement-in-americans-with-disabilities-act-lawsuit-over-sidewalks/

TB

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 by: bfh - Thu, 25 May 2023 17:46 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
> "City Reaches Tentative Settlement in Americans With Disabilities
> Act Lawsuit Over Sidewalk Camps The lawsuit is an effort to
> prohibit sidewalk camping in Portland. Any settlement would require
> City Council approval."
>
> "Last fall, a group of Portlanders with disabilities sued the city
> of Portland over street camping, alleging the city was violating
> the Americans with Disabilities Act by allowing homeless people to
> block sidewalks.
>
> The two parties, after months of negotiations, appear to have
> reached a settlement. And next week, the Portland City Council will
> vote on whether to approve it.
>
> The details of the agreement aren’t clear, but one of the
> plaintiffs, Tiana Tozer, wrote in an email Tuesday morning that the
> settlement is “not everything we wanted, it won’t happen
> overnight, but we are confident that it will help people with
> disabilities get a faster response when sidewalks are blocked, and
> eventually deter camping on the sidewalks.”
>
> Update, Wednesday morning: The terms of the tentative agreement
> appear favorable to the city. They include: the city prioritizing
> the clearing of sidewalk-blocking camps and setting up a hotline to
> report such campsites (the city already operates an online portal
> for that purpose); the city allocating at least $3 million annually
> to remove tents; the city publishing annual reports to track its
> compliance with the settlement; and each plaintiff receiving $5,000
> and reimbursement for attorney fees." [snip]
>
> https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/05/24/city-reaches-tentative-settlement-in-americans-with-disabilities-act-lawsuit-over-sidewalks/

I have no expertise in such matters, but will tent removal really cost
$3 million? And what are they going to do with the confiscated tents
of the soon-to-be-detented? What will the unhoused untented do after
they have been detented?

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: Technobarbarian - Thu, 25 May 2023 21:08 UTC

On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 10:46:18 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > "City Reaches Tentative Settlement in Americans With Disabilities
> > Act Lawsuit Over Sidewalk Camps The lawsuit is an effort to
> > prohibit sidewalk camping in Portland. Any settlement would require
> > City Council approval."
> >
> > "Last fall, a group of Portlanders with disabilities sued the city
> > of Portland over street camping, alleging the city was violating
> > the Americans with Disabilities Act by allowing homeless people to
> > block sidewalks.
> >
> > The two parties, after months of negotiations, appear to have
> > reached a settlement. And next week, the Portland City Council will
> > vote on whether to approve it.
> >
> > The details of the agreement aren’t clear, but one of the
> > plaintiffs, Tiana Tozer, wrote in an email Tuesday morning that the
> > settlement is “not everything we wanted, it won’t happen
> > overnight, but we are confident that it will help people with
> > disabilities get a faster response when sidewalks are blocked, and
> > eventually deter camping on the sidewalks.â€
> >
> > Update, Wednesday morning: The terms of the tentative agreement
> > appear favorable to the city. They include: the city prioritizing
> > the clearing of sidewalk-blocking camps and setting up a hotline to
> > report such campsites (the city already operates an online portal
> > for that purpose); the city allocating at least $3 million annually
> > to remove tents; the city publishing annual reports to track its
> > compliance with the settlement; and each plaintiff receiving $5,000
> > and reimbursement for attorney fees." [snip]
> >
> > https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/05/24/city-reaches-tentative-settlement-in-americans-with-disabilities-act-lawsuit-over-sidewalks/
> I have no expertise in such matters, but will tent removal really cost
> $3 million? And what are they going to do with the confiscated tents
> of the soon-to-be-detented? What will the unhoused untented do after
> they have been detented?
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

I would have thought you would understand bureaucracy. It isn't nearly that simple. If you take the tent you have to take everything--and make a record of what you took. Then it goes into storage somewhere for some amount of time that has been determined by the courts, so the unhoused and untented person has an opportunity to reclaim their tent and their stuff.

TB

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