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 by: slider - Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:21 UTC

Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming? Is there something, a meaning
behind it all? There undoubtedly is, albeit currently hidden from view,
and discovering, unravelling and understanding that philosophy is
obviously going to take time and experience, not because it’s particularly
difficult but because it’s a whole new field of endeavour containing as
yet unrealised reference points. The implications and ramifications of
this hypothesis, I’m wagering, could well be far-reaching, if not immense,
in terms of obtaining a greater understanding of ourselves and the nature
of the world around us.

Does lucid dreaming expand the mind?

Yes! Being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how unconscious and
asleep we are in our waking lives, which from a waking point of view is an
irremediable situation per se. One avenue for redemption remains, however,
in that with awareness it’s always a two-way street because, change one
and you effectively change the other!

The end result (of lucid dreaming) is to make people more thoughtful and
aware of their waking surroundings and the lives they're living. This is
because becoming more lucid and aware in dreams automatically carries over
into becoming more lucid and aware during waking, something which
ultimately equates with a general increase in awareness overall.

So yes, lucid dreaming does genuinely expand the mind!

--closing remarks from: 'The WILDway To Lucid Dreaming' by slider...

:)

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 by: o'Mahoney - Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:36 UTC

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6874013/

Essentially, LD is a hybrid sleep state which interferes with regular
sleep state and therefore decreases sleep health. Any regular
interference with normal sleep, which has evolved over hundreds of
millions of years, is detrimental to health.

So, a philosophy of disturbed/hybrid sleep? I doubt it.

On Tue, 05 Oct 2021 18:21:44 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

>Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming? Is there something, a meaning
>behind it all? There undoubtedly is, albeit currently hidden from view,
>and discovering, unravelling and understanding that philosophy is
>obviously going to take time and experience, not because it’s particularly
>difficult but because it’s a whole new field of endeavour containing as
>yet unrealised reference points. The implications and ramifications of
>this hypothesis, I’m wagering, could well be far-reaching, if not immense,
>in terms of obtaining a greater understanding of ourselves and the nature
>of the world around us.
>
>Does lucid dreaming expand the mind?
>
>Yes! Being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how unconscious and
>asleep we are in our waking lives, which from a waking point of view is an
>irremediable situation per se. One avenue for redemption remains, however,
>in that with awareness it’s always a two-way street because, change one
>and you effectively change the other!
>
>The end result (of lucid dreaming) is to make people more thoughtful and
>aware of their waking surroundings and the lives they're living. This is
>because becoming more lucid and aware in dreams automatically carries over
>into becoming more lucid and aware during waking, something which
>ultimately equates with a general increase in awareness overall.
>
>So yes, lucid dreaming does genuinely expand the mind!
>
>--closing remarks from: 'The WILDway To Lucid Dreaming' by slider...
>
>:)

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 by: slider - Mon, 11 Oct 2021 17:08 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:36:15 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6874013/
>
> Essentially, LD is a hybrid sleep state which interferes with regular
> sleep state and therefore decreases sleep health. Any regular
> interference with normal sleep, which has evolved over hundreds of
> millions of years, is detrimental to health.
>
> So, a philosophy of disturbed/hybrid sleep? I doubt it.

### - it's not yer' usual subject heh + the vast majority actually report
an energising effect; a kinda post-lucidity afterglow, one wherein one
feels anything but ill and actually super-charged, one thus feels young
and fit + mentally and emotionally invigorated, just as though one's
battery has been somehow magically topped right up to the brim heh... such
homogeneously good feelings right across the world + spread over 60 years
or so via multiple different people's experience (including our chris &
jeremy + many others here too) belying your assertion to the contrary...

iow: 'opine' based on hearsay & ignorance all ya want (if that's all ya
can do heh: life merely from an armchair pov?) just don't knock it until
you've actually tried it mate, and coz then you'd likely be singin' a
completely different tune altogether, and 'might' then even maybe want-in
on the exclusive publishing rights to oz and beyond haha ;)

> On Tue, 05 Oct 2021 18:21:44 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming? Is there something, a meaning
>> behind it all? There undoubtedly is, albeit currently hidden from view,
>> and discovering, unravelling and understanding that philosophy is
>> obviously going to take time and experience, not because it’s
>> particularly
>> difficult but because it’s a whole new field of endeavour containing as
>> yet unrealised reference points. The implications and ramifications of
>> this hypothesis, I’m wagering, could well be far-reaching, if not
>> immense,
>> in terms of obtaining a greater understanding of ourselves and the
>> nature
>> of the world around us.
>>
>> Does lucid dreaming expand the mind?
>>
>> Yes! Being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how unconscious and
>> asleep we are in our waking lives, which from a waking point of view is
>> an
>> irremediable situation per se. One avenue for redemption remains,
>> however,
>> in that with awareness it’s always a two-way street because, change one
>> and you effectively change the other!
>>
>> The end result (of lucid dreaming) is to make people more thoughtful and
>> aware of their waking surroundings and the lives they're living. This is
>> because becoming more lucid and aware in dreams automatically carries
>> over
>> into becoming more lucid and aware during waking, something which
>> ultimately equates with a general increase in awareness overall.
>>
>> So yes, lucid dreaming does genuinely expand the mind!
>>
>> --closing remarks from: 'The WILDway To Lucid Dreaming' by slider...
>>
>> :)

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:08:53 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:36:15 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6874013/
>>
>> Essentially, LD is a hybrid sleep state which interferes with regular
>> sleep state and therefore decreases sleep health. Any regular
>> interference with normal sleep, which has evolved over hundreds of
>> millions of years, is detrimental to health.
>>
>> So, a philosophy of disturbed/hybrid sleep? I doubt it.
>
>### - it's not yer' usual subject heh + the vast majority actually report
>an energising effect; a kinda post-lucidity afterglow, one wherein one
>feels anything but ill and actually super-charged, one thus feels young
>and fit + mentally and emotionally invigorated, just as though one's
>battery has been somehow magically topped right up to the brim heh... such
>homogeneously good feelings right across the world + spread over 60 years
>or so via multiple different people's experience (including our chris &
>jeremy + many others here too) belying your assertion to the contrary...

Rubbish. Jeremy/David led such a chaotic lifestyle (divorced, living
with different people in different houses etc) that he would have been
suffering interrupted sleep without the added bother of trying to
train himself to enter a controlled dreamstate through further
interruption to primeval, proven, healthy sleep patterns. Chris, who
a while back said unequivocally that he was going to leave this place
- and then returned - seems to have declined at least when his present
utterances here are compared with his utterances from a decade or so
ago and I can guarantee he has not the time (left), the patience or
the self discipline to attempt what you spell out in your tome. Me,
well I'm just a born in the wool cynic who has a low opinion (yep, I
do opine occasionally) of bullshit artists and scammers like you,
especially after monster lies are told by the same person (you) - like
your shared paternity with a famous American actor and his well known
sister AND your colossal porkie pie about having one of the world's
HIGHEST IQ's.

>
>iow: 'opine' based on hearsay & ignorance all ya want (if that's all ya
>can do heh: life merely from an armchair pov?) just don't knock it until
>you've actually tried it mate, and coz then you'd likely be singin' a
>completely different tune altogether, and 'might' then even maybe want-in
>on the exclusive publishing rights to oz and beyond haha ;)

I value sleep more and more as I age. Along with my strict exercise,
weights and jogging regime, and my wife's Mediterranean cooking, it
has an elevated position in keeping me highly functional as time goes
on. There is NO WAY I would start interrupting it on the say-so of
the likes of you, mate. No way. My dreams, especially if I've had a
nice little pipe before retiring, are entertaining enough.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Tue, 05 Oct 2021 18:21:44 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming? Is there something, a meaning
>>> behind it all? There undoubtedly is, albeit currently hidden from view,
>>> and discovering, unravelling and understanding that philosophy is
>>> obviously going to take time and experience, not because it’s
>>> particularly
>>> difficult but because it’s a whole new field of endeavour containing as
>>> yet unrealised reference points. The implications and ramifications of
>>> this hypothesis, I’m wagering, could well be far-reaching, if not
>>> immense,
>>> in terms of obtaining a greater understanding of ourselves and the
>>> nature
>>> of the world around us.
>>>
>>> Does lucid dreaming expand the mind?
>>>
>>> Yes! Being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how unconscious and
>>> asleep we are in our waking lives, which from a waking point of view is
>>> an
>>> irremediable situation per se.

What is this "per se" bullshit of yours Brian? That's the sort of
pretentious nonsense time wasters and semi-literate types utter when
they haven't anything left in their limited vocubularies but still
need to say something lest the audience think they are empty headed
scammers.

So, tell me, how does saying "per se" add to your nonsensical
semi-assertion that "being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how
unconscious and asleep we are in our waking lives..." (vomit)?

I mean, what the fuck are you trying to say here?

You should be working in a Manilla call centre you have such a command
of HM's English lol

One avenue for redemption remains,
>>> however,
>>> in that with awareness it’s always a two-way street because, change one
>>> and you effectively change the other!
>>>
>>> The end result (of lucid dreaming) is to make people more thoughtful and
>>> aware of their waking surroundings and the lives they're living. This is
>>> because becoming more lucid and aware in dreams automatically carries
>>> over
>>> into becoming more lucid and aware during waking, something which
>>> ultimately equates with a general increase in awareness overall.
>>>
>>> So yes, lucid dreaming does genuinely expand the mind!
>>>
>>> --closing remarks from: 'The WILDway To Lucid Dreaming' by slider...
>>>
>>> :)

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 by: slider - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 04:14 UTC

### - lol thang, you really 'are' just one of those sicko internet trolls
aren't you :D

what a shame, plus what a waste of a human life to end up being just one
of those eh? your 'huge' intellect not saving ya from such an ignominious
fate (obviously it just wasn't big enough heh)

sooo anyway, and even though you 'keep' trying to get my attention by
replying negatively to virtually 'everything' i post heh (slider silently
mouths the words: i am sooo popular lol) am done wasting any more energy
on you and it's back into the killfile with ya, permanently this time, and
with no chance of parole for good behaviour this time either lol (this
makin' me feel so right-wing at this moment, heh, am thinking trump would
prolly be proud of moi LOL) :)))

you now being a 3rd-time troll-loser so to speak; just 2-clicks of this
software and i neverrrr have to see any of your (or macey's) crap ever
again unless say chris responds to you's and i see some of it that-a-way,
but that's about it buddy, second-hand, and wont be responding directly
ever again... (i really 'did' give you every chance sport! made damn sure
of it! lol)

so cya mate, it's been, erm, nice knowin' ya + have a good life, &
sincerely hope you find something perhaps a little more worthy in life
than being just another internet fucking troll (you're a pretty good
troll, will grant ya that, one of cc's genuine petty-tyrants in that
sense, but that's still just being a reprobate troll innit, thus utterly
fucking useless/hopeless...)

Internet troll:
In internet slang, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory, insincere,
digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with
the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses, or
manipulating others' perception. --Wikipedia

(slider slowly disappears off into the mist, singing/humming:

Bye baby baby bye bye
Bye baby baby bye bye...)

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 00:41:52 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:08:53 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:36:15 +0100, o'Mahoney
>> <libertidad@south.south.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6874013/
>>>
>>> Essentially, LD is a hybrid sleep state which interferes with regular
>>> sleep state and therefore decreases sleep health. Any regular
>>> interference with normal sleep, which has evolved over hundreds of
>>> millions of years, is detrimental to health.
>>>
>>> So, a philosophy of disturbed/hybrid sleep? I doubt it.
>>
>> ### - it's not yer' usual subject heh + the vast majority actually
>> report
>> an energising effect; a kinda post-lucidity afterglow, one wherein one
>> feels anything but ill and actually super-charged, one thus feels young
>> and fit + mentally and emotionally invigorated, just as though one's
>> battery has been somehow magically topped right up to the brim heh...
>> such
>> homogeneously good feelings right across the world + spread over 60
>> years
>> or so via multiple different people's experience (including our chris &
>> jeremy + many others here too) belying your assertion to the contrary....
>
> Rubbish. Jeremy/David led such a chaotic lifestyle (divorced, living
> with different people in different houses etc) that he would have been
> suffering interrupted sleep without the added bother of trying to
> train himself to enter a controlled dreamstate through further
> interruption to primeval, proven, healthy sleep patterns. Chris, who
> a while back said unequivocally that he was going to leave this place
> - and then returned - seems to have declined at least when his present
> utterances here are compared with his utterances from a decade or so
> ago and I can guarantee he has not the time (left), the patience or
> the self discipline to attempt what you spell out in your tome. Me,
> well I'm just a born in the wool cynic who has a low opinion (yep, I
> do opine occasionally) of bullshit artists and scammers like you,
> especially after monster lies are told by the same person (you) - like
> your shared paternity with a famous American actor and his well known
> sister AND your colossal porkie pie about having one of the world's
> HIGHEST IQ's.
>
>
>>
>> iow: 'opine' based on hearsay & ignorance all ya want (if that's all ya
>> can do heh: life merely from an armchair pov?) just don't knock it until
>> you've actually tried it mate, and coz then you'd likely be singin' a
>> completely different tune altogether, and 'might' then even maybe
>> want-in
>> on the exclusive publishing rights to oz and beyond haha ;)
>
>
> I value sleep more and more as I age. Along with my strict exercise,
> weights and jogging regime, and my wife's Mediterranean cooking, it
> has an elevated position in keeping me highly functional as time goes
> on. There is NO WAY I would start interrupting it on the say-so of
> the likes of you, mate. No way. My dreams, especially if I've had a
> nice little pipe before retiring, are entertaining enough.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Oct 2021 18:21:44 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming? Is there something, a meaning
>>>> behind it all? There undoubtedly is, albeit currently hidden from
>>>> view,
>>>> and discovering, unravelling and understanding that philosophy is
>>>> obviously going to take time and experience, not because it’s
>>>> particularly
>>>> difficult but because it’s a whole new field of endeavour containing
>>>> as
>>>> yet unrealised reference points. The implications and ramifications of
>>>> this hypothesis, I’m wagering, could well be far-reaching, if not
>>>> immense,
>>>> in terms of obtaining a greater understanding of ourselves and the
>>>> nature
>>>> of the world around us.
>>>>
>>>> Does lucid dreaming expand the mind?
>>>>
>>>> Yes! Being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how unconscious and
>>>> asleep we are in our waking lives, which from a waking point of view
>>>> is
>>>> an
>>>> irremediable situation per se.
>
> What is this "per se" bullshit of yours Brian? That's the sort of
> pretentious nonsense time wasters and semi-literate types utter when
> they haven't anything left in their limited vocubularies but still
> need to say something lest the audience think they are empty headed
> scammers.
>
> So, tell me, how does saying "per se" add to your nonsensical
> semi-assertion that "being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how
> unconscious and asleep we are in our waking lives..." (vomit)?
>
> I mean, what the fuck are you trying to say here?
>
> You should be working in a Manilla call centre you have such a command
> of HM's English lol
>
>
>
> One avenue for redemption remains,
>>>> however,
>>>> in that with awareness it’s always a two-way street because, change
>>>> one
>>>> and you effectively change the other!
>>>>
>>>> The end result (of lucid dreaming) is to make people more thoughtful
>>>> and
>>>> aware of their waking surroundings and the lives they're living. This
>>>> is
>>>> because becoming more lucid and aware in dreams automatically carries
>>>> over
>>>> into becoming more lucid and aware during waking, something which
>>>> ultimately equates with a general increase in awareness overall.
>>>>
>>>> So yes, lucid dreaming does genuinely expand the mind!
>>>>
>>>> --closing remarks from: 'The WILDway To Lucid Dreaming' by slider....
>>>>
>>>> :)
>

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From: liberti...@south.south.com (o'Mahoney)
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Subject: Re: Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming?
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 by: o'Mahoney - Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:40 UTC

It's you, crybaby, you.

You have the sort of personality that needs a good punch in the head
(tune up) every so often just on principle. People don't like you
Brian. Your voice is that of a shirt lifter, a pillow biter, a nasty
bit of work who has never nailed the art of getting along with people.

A whinger, in other words.

All of that I could live with, but the lies, the fucking LIES - IQ of
160, half brother to a famous American actor and his well known sister
(you claim shared paternity), all the other nonsense and lies you spit
out without a care in the world.

I simply don't like you, Brian, just like almost every one else you've
come across in your benighted "life". Your lies about smoking dope
and taking mushies and all that shite - I know you haven't smoked weed
for decades, but you talk as though you smoke it all the time - and
you have NEVER had any sort of psychedelic - acid, mushies, ketamine,
PCP, etc etc - not even Datura - but talk as though you do them all
the time.

Block me by all means. I don't give a shit.

But I might just let your half brother (lol) in the US know what you
are saying about shared paternity with him, he might have interest
enough to contact you or have his agent contact you. You never know.

You still living at No. 7 mate?

Have a great day, dickhead.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 05:14:29 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

>### - lol thang, you really 'are' just one of those sicko internet trolls
>aren't you :D
>
>what a shame, plus what a waste of a human life to end up being just one
>of those eh? your 'huge' intellect not saving ya from such an ignominious
>fate (obviously it just wasn't big enough heh)
>
>sooo anyway, and even though you 'keep' trying to get my attention by
>replying negatively to virtually 'everything' i post heh (slider silently
>mouths the words: i am sooo popular lol) am done wasting any more energy
>on you and it's back into the killfile with ya, permanently this time, and
>with no chance of parole for good behaviour this time either lol (this
>makin' me feel so right-wing at this moment, heh, am thinking trump would
>prolly be proud of moi LOL) :)))
>
>you now being a 3rd-time troll-loser so to speak; just 2-clicks of this
>software and i neverrrr have to see any of your (or macey's) crap ever
>again unless say chris responds to you's and i see some of it that-a-way,
>but that's about it buddy, second-hand, and wont be responding directly
>ever again... (i really 'did' give you every chance sport! made damn sure
>of it! lol)
>
>so cya mate, it's been, erm, nice knowin' ya + have a good life, &
>sincerely hope you find something perhaps a little more worthy in life
>than being just another internet fucking troll (you're a pretty good
>troll, will grant ya that, one of cc's genuine petty-tyrants in that
>sense, but that's still just being a reprobate troll innit, thus utterly
>fucking useless/hopeless...)
>
>Internet troll:
>In internet slang, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory, insincere,
>digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with
>the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses, or
>manipulating others' perception. --Wikipedia
>
>(slider slowly disappears off into the mist, singing/humming:
>
>Bye baby baby bye bye
>Bye baby baby bye bye...)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 00:41:52 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:08:53 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:36:15 +0100, o'Mahoney
>>> <libertidad@south.south.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6874013/
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, LD is a hybrid sleep state which interferes with regular
>>>> sleep state and therefore decreases sleep health. Any regular
>>>> interference with normal sleep, which has evolved over hundreds of
>>>> millions of years, is detrimental to health.
>>>>
>>>> So, a philosophy of disturbed/hybrid sleep? I doubt it.
>>>
>>> ### - it's not yer' usual subject heh + the vast majority actually
>>> report
>>> an energising effect; a kinda post-lucidity afterglow, one wherein one
>>> feels anything but ill and actually super-charged, one thus feels young
>>> and fit + mentally and emotionally invigorated, just as though one's
>>> battery has been somehow magically topped right up to the brim heh...
>>> such
>>> homogeneously good feelings right across the world + spread over 60
>>> years
>>> or so via multiple different people's experience (including our chris &
>>> jeremy + many others here too) belying your assertion to the contrary...
>>
>> Rubbish. Jeremy/David led such a chaotic lifestyle (divorced, living
>> with different people in different houses etc) that he would have been
>> suffering interrupted sleep without the added bother of trying to
>> train himself to enter a controlled dreamstate through further
>> interruption to primeval, proven, healthy sleep patterns. Chris, who
>> a while back said unequivocally that he was going to leave this place
>> - and then returned - seems to have declined at least when his present
>> utterances here are compared with his utterances from a decade or so
>> ago and I can guarantee he has not the time (left), the patience or
>> the self discipline to attempt what you spell out in your tome. Me,
>> well I'm just a born in the wool cynic who has a low opinion (yep, I
>> do opine occasionally) of bullshit artists and scammers like you,
>> especially after monster lies are told by the same person (you) - like
>> your shared paternity with a famous American actor and his well known
>> sister AND your colossal porkie pie about having one of the world's
>> HIGHEST IQ's.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> iow: 'opine' based on hearsay & ignorance all ya want (if that's all ya
>>> can do heh: life merely from an armchair pov?) just don't knock it until
>>> you've actually tried it mate, and coz then you'd likely be singin' a
>>> completely different tune altogether, and 'might' then even maybe
>>> want-in
>>> on the exclusive publishing rights to oz and beyond haha ;)
>>
>>
>> I value sleep more and more as I age. Along with my strict exercise,
>> weights and jogging regime, and my wife's Mediterranean cooking, it
>> has an elevated position in keeping me highly functional as time goes
>> on. There is NO WAY I would start interrupting it on the say-so of
>> the likes of you, mate. No way. My dreams, especially if I've had a
>> nice little pipe before retiring, are entertaining enough.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 05 Oct 2021 18:21:44 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a philosophy to lucid dreaming? Is there something, a meaning
>>>>> behind it all? There undoubtedly is, albeit currently hidden from
>>>>> view,
>>>>> and discovering, unravelling and understanding that philosophy is
>>>>> obviously going to take time and experience, not because it’s
>>>>> particularly
>>>>> difficult but because it’s a whole new field of endeavour containing
>>>>> as
>>>>> yet unrealised reference points. The implications and ramifications of
>>>>> this hypothesis, I’m wagering, could well be far-reaching, if not
>>>>> immense,
>>>>> in terms of obtaining a greater understanding of ourselves and the
>>>>> nature
>>>>> of the world around us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does lucid dreaming expand the mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how unconscious and
>>>>> asleep we are in our waking lives, which from a waking point of view
>>>>> is
>>>>> an
>>>>> irremediable situation per se.
>>
>> What is this "per se" bullshit of yours Brian? That's the sort of
>> pretentious nonsense time wasters and semi-literate types utter when
>> they haven't anything left in their limited vocubularies but still
>> need to say something lest the audience think they are empty headed
>> scammers.
>>
>> So, tell me, how does saying "per se" add to your nonsensical
>> semi-assertion that "being unconscious in our dreams mirrors just how
>> unconscious and asleep we are in our waking lives..." (vomit)?
>>
>> I mean, what the fuck are you trying to say here?
>>
>> You should be working in a Manilla call centre you have such a command
>> of HM's English lol
>>
>>
>>
>> One avenue for redemption remains,
>>>>> however,
>>>>> in that with awareness it’s always a two-way street because, change
>>>>> one
>>>>> and you effectively change the other!
>>>>>
>>>>> The end result (of lucid dreaming) is to make people more thoughtful
>>>>> and
>>>>> aware of their waking surroundings and the lives they're living. This
>>>>> is
>>>>> because becoming more lucid and aware in dreams automatically carries
>>>>> over
>>>>> into becoming more lucid and aware during waking, something which
>>>>> ultimately equates with a general increase in awareness overall.
>>>>>
>>>>> So yes, lucid dreaming does genuinely expand the mind!
>>>>>
>>>>> --closing remarks from: 'The WILDway To Lucid Dreaming' by slider...
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>


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