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 by: 25B.Z969 - Sat, 6 Aug 2022 03:38 UTC

It has a LOT to do with nukes.

Tell Xi to fuck off.

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 by: 25B.Z969 - Sun, 7 Aug 2022 03:16 UTC

On 8/6/22 3:16 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
> Oh really that is the purpose? Say that to MAD war profiteers.

Ummmmm ................. do you KNOW what "MAD" stands
for ?????? "Mutually-Assured Destruction".

It imposes serious limits on the large powers. You can
only go just SO far ....

Without MAD, I dread to think what would have followed
after WW-2 ... Russia would have proceeded to take over
all of Europe, the CCP would have proceeded to take
over all of asia, they both would have attacked the
USA and then turned on each other. A bloodbath that
would pale every war in history combined .......

> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 10:03:02 PM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>> On 8/6/22 12:52 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>> If you are ready to destroy others by self-destruction, it is a lose-lose phase of conflict, which leads "together to the abyss." Sane people in such position are pushing brakes and work on deescalation. Its a good old common sense not the MADness that holds the world together.
>> And you just stated the purpose of "MAD" .... so that
>> good old common sense holds sway.
>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:37:58 PM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/22 6:30 AM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>>>> So, you feel safe when atomic war can turn into dust your home and your family?
>>>> Yes - because they equally threaten the aggressor.
>>>>
>>>> They call it 'MAD' - but it's held the world together
>>>> since 1945.
>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:38:27 AM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>>>> It has a LOT to do with nukes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell Xi to fuck off.

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 by: pyotr filipivich - Sun, 7 Aug 2022 23:38 UTC

"25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> on Sat, 6 Aug 2022 23:16:38 -0400 typed
in alt.survival the following:
>On 8/6/22 3:16 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>> Oh really that is the purpose? Say that to MAD war profiteers.
>
>
> Ummmmm ................. do you KNOW what "MAD" stands
> for ?????? "Mutually-Assured Destruction".
>
> It imposes serious limits on the large powers. You can
> only go just SO far ....

MAD is the assumption that the other guy cares.

It doesn't work when the "other guy" intends to kick off the
Apocalypse.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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 by: 25B.Z969 - Sun, 7 Aug 2022 23:48 UTC

At least nukes would be a relatively quick death. The
post-ww2 world without nukes would have been a
death-march back to the barbarian ages.

Sorry, GOTTA have "M.A.D." People aren't going to change
very much - lots of "Game Of Thrones" ingrained at every
level. So, given modern mil-tech, there has to be a
"Thou Shalt Not Get Away With It" catch to any megalomaniacs
big plans.

On 8/7/22 6:59 AM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
> Exactly! Very saying acronym! I wonder, what these MAD merchants of death plan to do after their customers self-destruct in nuclear war? Are they ready to spend eternity in hell modernizing nuclear arsenal of Satan?
>
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 6:16:46 AM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>> On 8/6/22 3:16 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>> Oh really that is the purpose? Say that to MAD war profiteers.
>> Ummmmm ................. do you KNOW what "MAD" stands
>> for ?????? "Mutually-Assured Destruction".
>>
>> It imposes serious limits on the large powers. You can
>> only go just SO far ....
>>
>> Without MAD, I dread to think what would have followed
>> after WW-2 ... Russia would have proceeded to take over
>> all of Europe, the CCP would have proceeded to take
>> over all of asia, they both would have attacked the
>> USA and then turned on each other. A bloodbath that
>> would pale every war in history combined .......

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 by: Nic - Sun, 7 Aug 2022 23:49 UTC

On 8/6/22 11:16 PM, 25B.Z969 wrote:
> On 8/6/22 3:16 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>> Oh really that is the purpose? Say that to MAD war profiteers.
>
>
>   Ummmmm ................. do you KNOW what "MAD" stands
>   for ??????  "Mutually-Assured Destruction".
>
>   It imposes serious limits on the large powers. You can
>   only go just SO far ....
>
>   Without MAD, I dread to think what would have followed
>   after WW-2 ... Russia would have proceeded to take over
>   all of Europe, the CCP would have proceeded to take
>   over all of asia, they both would have attacked the
>   USA and then turned on each other. A bloodbath that
>   would pale every war in history combined .......
>
>
>
>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 10:03:02 PM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>> On 8/6/22 12:52 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>>> If you are ready to destroy others by self-destruction, it is a
>>>> lose-lose phase of conflict, which leads "together to the abyss."
>>>> Sane people in such position are pushing brakes and work on
>>>> deescalation. Its a good old common sense not the MADness that
>>>> holds the world together.
>>> And you just stated the purpose of "MAD" .... so that
>>> good old common sense holds sway.
>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:37:58 PM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/22 6:30 AM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>>>>> So, you feel safe when atomic war can turn into dust your home
>>>>>> and your family?
>>>>> Yes - because they equally threaten the aggressor.
>>>>>
>>>>> They call it 'MAD' - but it's held the world together
>>>>> since 1945.
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:38:27 AM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>>>>> It has a LOT to do with nukes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tell Xi to fuck off.
>
While some are plotting the takeover of the world, others are drinking
wine and singing Joy To The
World...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcpKjXYa5c

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 by: 25B.Z969 - Mon, 8 Aug 2022 02:17 UTC

On 8/7/22 7:49 PM, Nic wrote:
> On 8/6/22 11:16 PM, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>> On 8/6/22 3:16 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>> Oh really that is the purpose? Say that to MAD war profiteers.
>>
>>
>>   Ummmmm ................. do you KNOW what "MAD" stands
>>   for ??????  "Mutually-Assured Destruction".
>>
>>   It imposes serious limits on the large powers. You can
>>   only go just SO far ....
>>
>>   Without MAD, I dread to think what would have followed
>>   after WW-2 ... Russia would have proceeded to take over
>>   all of Europe, the CCP would have proceeded to take
>>   over all of asia, they both would have attacked the
>>   USA and then turned on each other. A bloodbath that
>>   would pale every war in history combined .......
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 10:03:02 PM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/22 12:52 PM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>>>> If you are ready to destroy others by self-destruction, it is a
>>>>> lose-lose phase of conflict, which leads "together to the abyss."
>>>>> Sane people in such position are pushing brakes and work on
>>>>> deescalation. Its a good old common sense not the MADness that
>>>>> holds the world together.
>>>> And you just stated the purpose of "MAD" .... so that
>>>> good old common sense holds sway.
>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:37:58 PM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/22 6:30 AM, Yurii Sheliazhenko wrote:
>>>>>>> So, you feel safe when atomic war can turn into dust your home
>>>>>>> and your family?
>>>>>> Yes - because they equally threaten the aggressor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They call it 'MAD' - but it's held the world together
>>>>>> since 1945.
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 6:38:27 AM UTC+3, 25B.Z969 wrote:
>>>>>>>> It has a LOT to do with nukes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tell Xi to fuck off.
>>
> While some are plotting the takeover of the world, others are drinking
> wine and singing Joy To The
> World...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcpKjXYa5c

The first victims of the new (old) world order too ...

Sing "Joy" as the shells and rockets rain down, as
the fallout cloud comes over the horizon, as the
food runs out and yer neighbor starts calculating
how long you'd take in a slow oven ...........

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