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 by: Technobarbarian - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:22 UTC

I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I caught 8 nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good trip. We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park again. The RV park is just a parking lot with hookups and picnic tables, but it's just a short walk from there to one of my favorite crabbing docks.

Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The mature males molt late in the Summer and don't fill out for 2 or 3 months. Until then the meat is soft and watery. The commercial season won't start until later in the year when the crabs have filled out and are consistently firm. Our commercial crab fleet is very efficient. They will catch 90% of the season's total in 6 weeks. The commercial season runs into summer and ends before the males start molting again. After the first 6 weeks most of the boats switch over to more lucrative fisheries.

So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab all year round, the best time of year is from September when the males are firming up, until the commercial season starts. About half of my crabs were pretty well filled out and the other half was mostly filled out. The softer crabs will be suitable for crab dip and soup and such. The firmer crabs are great for eating right out of the shell.

The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin version of creamed corn with just enough crab to balance the flavors. Yum

I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State Park. If the weather is nice we will be able to dig for Razor clams, which is another one of my favorite foods. If it's stormy we'll sit back somewhere comfortable and watch the ocean. Maybe do a little beach combing between weather fronts.

TB

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 by: bfh - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:29 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
>
> I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I caught 8
> nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good trip. We stayed at the
> Harbor View Inn and RV park again. The RV park is just a parking
> lot with hookups and picnic tables, but it's just a short walk from
> there to one of my favorite crabbing docks.
>
> Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The mature males
> molt late in the Summer and don't fill out for 2 or 3 months. Until
> then the meat is soft and watery. The commercial season won't start
> until later in the year when the crabs have filled out and are
> consistently firm. Our commercial crab fleet is very efficient.
> They will catch 90% of the season's total in 6 weeks. The
> commercial season runs into summer and ends before the males start
> molting again. After the first 6 weeks most of the boats switch
> over to more lucrative fisheries.
>
> So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab all year
> round, the best time of year is from September when the males are
> firming up, until the commercial season starts. About half of my
> crabs were pretty well filled out and the other half was mostly
> filled out. The softer crabs will be suitable for crab dip and soup
> and such. The firmer crabs are great for eating right out of the
> shell.
>
> The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin version of
> creamed corn with just enough crab to balance the flavors. Yum
>
> I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State Park. If
> the weather is nice we will be able to dig for Razor clams, which
> is another one of my favorite foods. If it's stormy we'll sit back
> somewhere comfortable and watch the ocean. Maybe do a little beach
> combing between weather fronts.

Do you have to have signs there that say:
WARNING

HERE BE SHARP THINGS

HEMOPHILIACS PROHIBITED
by
OPRD REGULATIONS

VIOLATORS WILL BE
COAGULATED AND PROSECUTED

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: Technobarbarian - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:16 UTC

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 4:29:31 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >
> > I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I caught 8
> > nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good trip. We stayed at the
> > Harbor View Inn and RV park again. The RV park is just a parking
> > lot with hookups and picnic tables, but it's just a short walk from
> > there to one of my favorite crabbing docks.
> >
> > Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The mature males
> > molt late in the Summer and don't fill out for 2 or 3 months. Until
> > then the meat is soft and watery. The commercial season won't start
> > until later in the year when the crabs have filled out and are
> > consistently firm. Our commercial crab fleet is very efficient.
> > They will catch 90% of the season's total in 6 weeks. The
> > commercial season runs into summer and ends before the males start
> > molting again. After the first 6 weeks most of the boats switch
> > over to more lucrative fisheries.
> >
> > So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab all year
> > round, the best time of year is from September when the males are
> > firming up, until the commercial season starts. About half of my
> > crabs were pretty well filled out and the other half was mostly
> > filled out. The softer crabs will be suitable for crab dip and soup
> > and such. The firmer crabs are great for eating right out of the
> > shell.
> >
> > The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin version of
> > creamed corn with just enough crab to balance the flavors. Yum
> >
> > I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State Park. If
> > the weather is nice we will be able to dig for Razor clams, which
> > is another one of my favorite foods. If it's stormy we'll sit back
> > somewhere comfortable and watch the ocean. Maybe do a little beach
> > combing between weather fronts.
> Do you have to have signs there that say:
> WARNING
>
> HERE BE SHARP THINGS
>
> HEMOPHILIACS PROHIBITED
> by
> OPRD REGULATIONS
>
> VIOLATORS WILL BE
> COAGULATED AND PROSECUTED
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Ya' know, the signs on the dock say all sorts of things, and there are signs all over the coast, but I haven't seen any warning signs for hemophiliacs. I don't think anyone wants to prosecute people for a medical condition and I suspect that most of the living hemophiliacs are smart enough to figure this problem out for themselves. I haven't met anyone out crabbing who said they were a hemophiliac. OTOH the odds are that some of the folks who are out crabbing are using blood thinners. One of the guys I met on the dock said he was 80 years old. On this trip I only bled a very small amount..

TB

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 by: Technobarbarian - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 16:18 UTC

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:16:48 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 4:29:31 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> > Technobarbarian wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I caught 8
> > > nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good trip. We stayed at the
> > > Harbor View Inn and RV park again. The RV park is just a parking
> > > lot with hookups and picnic tables, but it's just a short walk from
> > > there to one of my favorite crabbing docks.
> > >
> > > Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The mature males
> > > molt late in the Summer and don't fill out for 2 or 3 months. Until
> > > then the meat is soft and watery. The commercial season won't start
> > > until later in the year when the crabs have filled out and are
> > > consistently firm. Our commercial crab fleet is very efficient.
> > > They will catch 90% of the season's total in 6 weeks. The
> > > commercial season runs into summer and ends before the males start
> > > molting again. After the first 6 weeks most of the boats switch
> > > over to more lucrative fisheries.
> > >
> > > So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab all year
> > > round, the best time of year is from September when the males are
> > > firming up, until the commercial season starts. About half of my
> > > crabs were pretty well filled out and the other half was mostly
> > > filled out. The softer crabs will be suitable for crab dip and soup
> > > and such. The firmer crabs are great for eating right out of the
> > > shell.
> > >
> > > The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin version of
> > > creamed corn with just enough crab to balance the flavors. Yum
> > >
> > > I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State Park. If
> > > the weather is nice we will be able to dig for Razor clams, which
> > > is another one of my favorite foods. If it's stormy we'll sit back
> > > somewhere comfortable and watch the ocean. Maybe do a little beach
> > > combing between weather fronts.
> > Do you have to have signs there that say:
> > WARNING
> >
> > HERE BE SHARP THINGS
> >
> > HEMOPHILIACS PROHIBITED
> > by
> > OPRD REGULATIONS
> >
> > VIOLATORS WILL BE
> > COAGULATED AND PROSECUTED
> >
> > --
> > bill
> > Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> Ya' know, the signs on the dock say all sorts of things, and there are signs all over the coast, but I haven't seen any warning signs for hemophiliacs. I don't think anyone wants to prosecute people for a medical condition and I suspect that most of the living hemophiliacs are smart enough to figure this problem out for themselves. I haven't met anyone out crabbing who said they were a hemophiliac. OTOH the odds are that some of the folks who are out crabbing are using blood thinners. One of the guys I met on the dock said he was 80 years old. On this trip I only bled a very small amount.
>
> TB

They aren't common, but I have seen people using crab tongs. I generally don't ask strangers about their medical condition because medical conditions are like assholes. Everyone has one. It is possible that some folks were using crab tongs because of a medical condition.

https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-10160-006-Crab-Tongs/dp/B003ZZ8X7E/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=crab+tongs&qid=1697040731&sr=8-7

TB

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Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:16:48 AM UTC-7,
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 4:29:31 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I
>>>> caught 8 nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good trip. We
>>>> stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park again. The RV park
>>>> is just a parking lot with hookups and picnic tables, but
>>>> it's just a short walk from there to one of my favorite
>>>> crabbing docks.
>>>>
>>>> Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The mature
>>>> males molt late in the Summer and don't fill out for 2 or 3
>>>> months. Until then the meat is soft and watery. The
>>>> commercial season won't start until later in the year when
>>>> the crabs have filled out and are consistently firm. Our
>>>> commercial crab fleet is very efficient. They will catch 90%
>>>> of the season's total in 6 weeks. The commercial season runs
>>>> into summer and ends before the males start molting again.
>>>> After the first 6 weeks most of the boats switch over to more
>>>> lucrative fisheries.
>>>>
>>>> So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab all
>>>> year round, the best time of year is from September when the
>>>> males are firming up, until the commercial season starts.
>>>> About half of my crabs were pretty well filled out and the
>>>> other half was mostly filled out. The softer crabs will be
>>>> suitable for crab dip and soup and such. The firmer crabs are
>>>> great for eating right out of the shell.
>>>>
>>>> The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin
>>>> version of creamed corn with just enough crab to balance the
>>>> flavors. Yum
>>>>
>>>> I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State Park.
>>>> If the weather is nice we will be able to dig for Razor
>>>> clams, which is another one of my favorite foods. If it's
>>>> stormy we'll sit back somewhere comfortable and watch the
>>>> ocean. Maybe do a little beach combing between weather
>>>> fronts.
>>> Do you have to have signs there that say: WARNING
>>>
>>> HERE BE SHARP THINGS
>>>
>>> HEMOPHILIACS PROHIBITED by OPRD REGULATIONS
>>>
>>> VIOLATORS WILL BE COAGULATED AND PROSECUTED
>>>
>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>> Ya' know, the signs on the dock say all sorts of things, and
>> there are signs all over the coast, but I haven't seen any
>> warning signs for hemophiliacs. I don't think anyone wants to
>> prosecute people for a medical condition and I suspect that most
>> of the living hemophiliacs are smart enough to figure this
>> problem out for themselves. I haven't met anyone out crabbing who
>> said they were a hemophiliac. OTOH the odds are that some of the
>> folks who are out crabbing are using blood thinners. One of the
>> guys I met on the dock said he was 80 years old. On this trip I
>> only bled a very small amount.
>>
>> TB
>
> They aren't common, but I have seen people using crab tongs. I
> generally don't ask strangers about their medical condition because
> medical conditions are like assholes. Everyone has one. It is
> possible that some folks were using crab tongs because of a medical
> condition.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-10160-006-Crab-Tongs/dp/B003ZZ8X7E/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=crab+tongs&qid=1697040731&sr=8-7

Probably should check with the OPRD or the CPSC to see if using crab
tongs off-label for razor clams is approved. Follow the science.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:46:06 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:16:48 AM UTC-7,
> > Technobarbarian wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 4:29:31 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >>> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I
> >>>> caught 8 nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good trip. We
> >>>> stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park again. The RV park
> >>>> is just a parking lot with hookups and picnic tables, but
> >>>> it's just a short walk from there to one of my favorite
> >>>> crabbing docks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The mature
> >>>> males molt late in the Summer and don't fill out for 2 or 3
> >>>> months. Until then the meat is soft and watery. The
> >>>> commercial season won't start until later in the year when
> >>>> the crabs have filled out and are consistently firm. Our
> >>>> commercial crab fleet is very efficient. They will catch 90%
> >>>> of the season's total in 6 weeks. The commercial season runs
> >>>> into summer and ends before the males start molting again.
> >>>> After the first 6 weeks most of the boats switch over to more
> >>>> lucrative fisheries.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab all
> >>>> year round, the best time of year is from September when the
> >>>> males are firming up, until the commercial season starts.
> >>>> About half of my crabs were pretty well filled out and the
> >>>> other half was mostly filled out. The softer crabs will be
> >>>> suitable for crab dip and soup and such. The firmer crabs are
> >>>> great for eating right out of the shell.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin
> >>>> version of creamed corn with just enough crab to balance the
> >>>> flavors. Yum
> >>>>
> >>>> I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State Park.
> >>>> If the weather is nice we will be able to dig for Razor
> >>>> clams, which is another one of my favorite foods. If it's
> >>>> stormy we'll sit back somewhere comfortable and watch the
> >>>> ocean. Maybe do a little beach combing between weather
> >>>> fronts.
> >>> Do you have to have signs there that say: WARNING
> >>>
> >>> HERE BE SHARP THINGS
> >>>
> >>> HEMOPHILIACS PROHIBITED by OPRD REGULATIONS
> >>>
> >>> VIOLATORS WILL BE COAGULATED AND PROSECUTED
> >>>
> >>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >> Ya' know, the signs on the dock say all sorts of things, and
> >> there are signs all over the coast, but I haven't seen any
> >> warning signs for hemophiliacs. I don't think anyone wants to
> >> prosecute people for a medical condition and I suspect that most
> >> of the living hemophiliacs are smart enough to figure this
> >> problem out for themselves. I haven't met anyone out crabbing who
> >> said they were a hemophiliac. OTOH the odds are that some of the
> >> folks who are out crabbing are using blood thinners. One of the
> >> guys I met on the dock said he was 80 years old. On this trip I
> >> only bled a very small amount.
> >>
> >> TB
> >
> > They aren't common, but I have seen people using crab tongs. I
> > generally don't ask strangers about their medical condition because
> > medical conditions are like assholes. Everyone has one. It is
> > possible that some folks were using crab tongs because of a medical
> > condition.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-10160-006-Crab-Tongs/dp/B003ZZ8X7E/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=crab+tongs&qid=1697040731&sr=8-7
> Probably should check with the OPRD or the CPSC to see if using crab
> tongs off-label for razor clams is approved. Follow the science.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Oh, you can use just about anything you want for either creature. And science does rule--sort of. For crabs just about anything is legal. In some places people use rakes to catch crabs. Some people like catching them with their bare hands. Scuba diving for crabs is perfectly legal. There are some limits on traps. Both the number of traps you can use and their design, but there aren't restrictions many for recreational crabbers. All of this is allowed because recreational crabbing only accounts for a small percentage of the harvest. There are just tons of crabs out there.

OTOH for razor clams science does rule. You could try to use tongs if you wanted to, but it just wouldn't be effective. If you really want to rock digging for razor clams you need a clam gun.

https://www.amazon.com/Murffs-Claminator-Stainless-Steel-Valve/dp/B07QY1HBKS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=clam%2Bgun&qid=1697049775&sr=8-3&th=1

From the background I know exactly where the guy in their picture is standing. The old tillamook lighthouse is in the background--Terrible Tilly.. Last I heard it was up for sale again with no takers. He's standing on the best beach for razor clams in Oregon. To his right is the entire city of Seaside. I hope to be on that beach for Christmas, if not sooner.

I'm cheap. This is what I use.

https://fishermans-marine.com/products/willapa-marine-kids-clam-gun

The thumb hole on top of my clam gun is scientifically important. I leave it open when I'm pushing my gun into the sand where I think I have found a clam and close that hole when I pulling the sand out of the hole I just made. Razor clams are fast. It might take more than one try to catch it. People used to use special shovels for this, but the guns are much more effective. My sister and her husband have some of the very nice stainless steel clam guns. They also have all the neoprene gear for going in the water after the clams. That is too hard core for me. For other clams it isn't necessary to be all that scientific. The other clams here don't move around that fast, if at all.

TB

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 by: bfh - Wed, 11 Oct 2023 20:05 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:46:06 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:16:48 AM UTC-7,
>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 4:29:31 AM UTC-7, bfh
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been on the coast for crabbing and beach combing. I
>>>>>> caught 8 nice sized keepers, so I consider it a good
>>>>>> trip. We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park again.
>>>>>> The RV park is just a parking lot with hookups and picnic
>>>>>> tables, but it's just a short walk from there to one of
>>>>>> my favorite crabbing docks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crabbing mostly revolves around the annual molt. The
>>>>>> mature males molt late in the Summer and don't fill out
>>>>>> for 2 or 3 months. Until then the meat is soft and
>>>>>> watery. The commercial season won't start until later in
>>>>>> the year when the crabs have filled out and are
>>>>>> consistently firm. Our commercial crab fleet is very
>>>>>> efficient. They will catch 90% of the season's total in 6
>>>>>> weeks. The commercial season runs into summer and ends
>>>>>> before the males start molting again. After the first 6
>>>>>> weeks most of the boats switch over to more lucrative
>>>>>> fisheries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, for recreational crabbers, even though we can crab
>>>>>> all year round, the best time of year is from September
>>>>>> when the males are firming up, until the commercial
>>>>>> season starts. About half of my crabs were pretty well
>>>>>> filled out and the other half was mostly filled out. The
>>>>>> softer crabs will be suitable for crab dip and soup and
>>>>>> such. The firmer crabs are great for eating right out of
>>>>>> the shell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Chinese have a classic soup that's basically a thin
>>>>>> version of creamed corn with just enough crab to balance
>>>>>> the flavors. Yum
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have reservations for Christmas at Fort Stevens State
>>>>>> Park. If the weather is nice we will be able to dig for
>>>>>> Razor clams, which is another one of my favorite foods.
>>>>>> If it's stormy we'll sit back somewhere comfortable and
>>>>>> watch the ocean. Maybe do a little beach combing between
>>>>>> weather fronts.
>>>>> Do you have to have signs there that say: WARNING
>>>>>
>>>>> HERE BE SHARP THINGS
>>>>>
>>>>> HEMOPHILIACS PROHIBITED by OPRD REGULATIONS
>>>>>
>>>>> VIOLATORS WILL BE COAGULATED AND PROSECUTED
>>>>>
>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>> Ya' know, the signs on the dock say all sorts of things, and
>>>> there are signs all over the coast, but I haven't seen any
>>>> warning signs for hemophiliacs. I don't think anyone wants
>>>> to prosecute people for a medical condition and I suspect
>>>> that most of the living hemophiliacs are smart enough to
>>>> figure this problem out for themselves. I haven't met anyone
>>>> out crabbing who said they were a hemophiliac. OTOH the odds
>>>> are that some of the folks who are out crabbing are using
>>>> blood thinners. One of the guys I met on the dock said he was
>>>> 80 years old. On this trip I only bled a very small amount.
>>>>
>>>> TB
>>>
>>> They aren't common, but I have seen people using crab tongs. I
>>> generally don't ask strangers about their medical condition
>>> because medical conditions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
>>> It is possible that some folks were using crab tongs because of
>>> a medical condition.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-10160-006-Crab-Tongs/dp/B003ZZ8X7E/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=crab+tongs&qid=1697040731&sr=8-7
>>
>>>
Probably should check with the OPRD or the CPSC to see if using crab
>> tongs off-label for razor clams is approved. Follow the science.
>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Oh, you can use just about anything you want for either creature.
> And science does rule--sort of. For crabs just about anything is
> legal. In some places people use rakes to catch crabs. Some people
> like catching them with their bare hands. Scuba diving for crabs is
> perfectly legal. There are some limits on traps. Both the number of
> traps you can use and their design, but there aren't restrictions
> many for recreational crabbers. All of this is allowed because
> recreational crabbing only accounts for a small percentage of the
> harvest. There are just tons of crabs out there.
>
> OTOH for razor clams science does rule. You could try to use tongs
> if you wanted to, but it just wouldn't be effective. If you really
> want to rock digging for razor clams you need a clam gun.

A GUN?! Gasp! Do you need a background check to buy one? Well, at
least it's not scary black.

> https://www.amazon.com/Murffs-Claminator-Stainless-Steel-Valve/dp/B07QY1HBKS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=clam%2Bgun&qid=1697049775&sr=8-3&th=1
>
> From the background I know exactly where the guy in their picture
> is standing. The old tillamook lighthouse is in the
> background--Terrible Tilly. Last I heard it was up for sale again
> with no takers. He's standing on the best beach for razor clams in
> Oregon. To his right is the entire city of Seaside. I hope to be on
> that beach for Christmas, if not sooner.
>
> I'm cheap. This is what I use.
>
> https://fishermans-marine.com/products/willapa-marine-kids-clam-gun
>
> The thumb hole on top of my clam gun is scientifically important.
> I leave it open when I'm pushing my gun into the sand where I think
> I have found a clam and close that hole when I pulling the sand out
> of the hole I just made. Razor clams are fast. It might take more
> than one try to catch it. People used to use special shovels for
> this, but the guns are much more effective. My sister and her
> husband have some of the very nice stainless steel clam guns. They
> also have all the neoprene gear for going in the water after the
> clams. That is too hard core for me. For other clams it isn't
> necessary to be all that scientific. The other clams here don't
> move around that fast, if at all.
>
> TB
>

--
bill
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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 1:05:14 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

> A GUN?! Gasp! Do you need a background check to buy one? Well, at
> least it's not scary black.

We even let children use them. People being people, someone must have used one of those stainless steel suckers for a weapon on the beach at sometime, but that doesn't seem to be common. I don't think my plastic gun would be an effective defense against an angry seagull. "If we outlaw clam guns, only outlaws will have clam guns"?

TB

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Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 1:05:14 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>
>> A GUN?! Gasp! Do you need a background check to buy one? Well,
>> at least it's not scary black.
>
> We even let children use them. People being people, someone must
> have used one of those stainless steel suckers for a weapon on the
> beach at sometime, but that doesn't seem to be common. I don't
> think my plastic gun would be an effective defense against an angry
> seagull. "If we outlaw clam guns, only outlaws will have clam
> guns"?

Hey. You didn't hear me say I wanted to outlaw clam guns. I was just
sorta implying that if any of your dumbasses out there even heard
"clam gun", they'd probably run to their safe spaces. If I were to
literally take a position on outlawing clam guns, I'd say - in the
interest of equity - let the clams arm themselves with something other
than just sharp edges. I'll even bet that there are a few brave clams
out there that would wear a suicide vest to utterly destroy the next
clam gun that enveloped it. I allege that would sure make clam gunners
think twice before viciously plunging their evil weapon of abduction
into the sand. I mean, look, if you've got a name like "razor clam",
you gotta (start uptalk) have some balls, you know.(end uptalk)

--
bill
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On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 4:38:19 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 1:05:14 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >
> >> A GUN?! Gasp! Do you need a background check to buy one? Well,
> >> at least it's not scary black.
> >
> > We even let children use them. People being people, someone must
> > have used one of those stainless steel suckers for a weapon on the
> > beach at sometime, but that doesn't seem to be common. I don't
> > think my plastic gun would be an effective defense against an angry
> > seagull. "If we outlaw clam guns, only outlaws will have clam
> > guns"?
> Hey. You didn't hear me say I wanted to outlaw clam guns. I was just
> sorta implying that if any of your dumbasses out there even heard
> "clam gun", they'd probably run to their safe spaces. If I were to
> literally take a position on outlawing clam guns, I'd say - in the
> interest of equity - let the clams arm themselves with something other
> than just sharp edges. I'll even bet that there are a few brave clams
> out there that would wear a suicide vest to utterly destroy the next
> clam gun that enveloped it. I allege that would sure make clam gunners
> think twice before viciously plunging their evil weapon of abduction
> into the sand. I mean, look, if you've got a name like "razor clam",
> you gotta (start uptalk) have some balls, you know.(end uptalk)
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Much like gravity, evolution can be a bitch. If they evolved to be much bigger they could be a serious threat. I'll bet they would be tasty too, even if it took a week to properly cook them. Eventually it would probably all balance out, even if you had to go out with something more serious than a clam gun. I'm the sort of person who roots for the bull in the bull ring or being run down the street. When the great white hunter goes out for big game I'm always rooting for the big game. So I would seem only fair if clams could fight back at least as well as a crab, if not better.

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