The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!

<https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:05:45 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
> something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
> through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
> therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!
>
> <https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>

"'It's going to disappear':
A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
By Daniel Wolfe and Daniel Dale, CNN
Last updated October 31, 2020
In his first speech after his hospitalization for Covid-19, President Donald Trump stood on a White House balcony on October 10 and made a grand declaration about the coronavirus: “It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”

His words might have sounded more dramatic had he not been saying the same thing for eight months.

Trump has stuck to the refrain no matter what has been happening with the pandemic. Since February, the President has declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing.

His proclamations have been wildly inaccurate. When Trump first started making the claim in February, it was about the time the US had just suffered its very first known Covid-19 death. More than 220,000 deaths later, Trump continues to falsely claim that the virus will somehow just go away — even as the US experiences yet another surge in cases and hospitalizations."
[snip]

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/index.html

"Some in vitro drug screening studies early in the pandemic showed that ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[13] Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2–2.8 μM.[6][14]

However, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect while treating COVID-19.[15][16] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and may be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is believed to be via the suppression of a host cellular process,[15] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[17][18][19] Several other drugs which inhibit importin α/β1 at therapeutic doses have failed clinical trials due to systemic toxicity and a narrow therapeutic window.[20]

To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials were underway in the United States and the United Kingdom.[21][22]

A large randomised controlled trial ACTIV-6, published in October 2022, found no significant difference between patients treated with ivermectin and placebo, and was described by Yale medical professor Perry Wilson as the "final nail in the coffin" for ivermectin as a treatment for covid.[23][24]

Research limitations, ethics and fraud
Many studies on ivermectin for COVID‑19 have serious methodological limitations, resulting in very low evidence certainty.[18][25][26][8] Several publications that supported the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID‑19 have been retracted due to errors, unverifiable data, and ethical concerns.[12][27][28]

Several high-profile publications purporting to demonstrate reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients were later retracted due to suspected data falsification.[29][30] This only added to confusion among the media and lay public,[28] as these publications had been widely cited by ivermectin supporters and included in meta-analyses.[27][12][31]

In January 2022, 22 inmates at the Washington County Detention Center in Arkansas filed a lawsuit over hundreds of ivermectin pills given to them as "vitamins" in 2020.[32]

In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued expressions of concern against two positive systematic reviews of ivermectin for COVID-19 which it had published in 2021, because of suspicions about the underlying data that would undermine these papers' findings of benefit.[33][34][35]

In Mexico City the government distributed ivermectin widely as a COVID-19 treatment and published the observed results on the SocArXiv archive as a research paper. The paper was subsequently withdrawn by the archive citing concerns that it was unethical, as it effectively was an experiment carried out on people without gaining informed consent. Philip N. Cohen of the SocArXiv steering committee said "the article is of very poor quality or deliberately false and misleading" and that its removal was justified to prevent public harm.[36]"

"Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9020491/

"An Ivermectin Influencer Died. Now His Followers Are Worried About Their Own ‘Severe’ Symptoms."

"(Vice) Danny Lemoi took a daily dose of veterinary-grade ivermectin and told his thousands of followers to give the drug to children. He died of a common side effect of the medication.

Just before 7 am on March 3, Danny Lemoi posted an update in his hugely popular pro-ivermectin Telegram group, Dirt Road Discussions: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”

Hours later, Lemoi was dead."

https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/

TB

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:05:45 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> > The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
> > something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
> > through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
> > therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!
> >
> > <https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
> "'It's going to disappear':
> A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
> By Daniel Wolfe and Daniel Dale, CNN
> Last updated October 31, 2020
> In his first speech after his hospitalization for Covid-19, President Donald Trump stood on a White House balcony on October 10 and made a grand declaration about the coronavirus: “It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”
>
> His words might have sounded more dramatic had he not been saying the same thing for eight months.
>
> Trump has stuck to the refrain no matter what has been happening with the pandemic. Since February, the President has declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing.
>
> His proclamations have been wildly inaccurate. When Trump first started making the claim in February, it was about the time the US had just suffered its very first known Covid-19 death. More than 220,000 deaths later, Trump continues to falsely claim that the virus will somehow just go away — even as the US experiences yet another surge in cases and hospitalizations."
> [snip]
>
> https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/index.html
>
> "Some in vitro drug screening studies early in the pandemic showed that ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[13] Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2–2.8 μM.[6][14]
>
> However, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect while treating COVID-19.[15][16] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and may be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is believed to be via the suppression of a host cellular process,[15] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[17][18][19] Several other drugs which inhibit importin α/β1 at therapeutic doses have failed clinical trials due to systemic toxicity and a narrow therapeutic window.[20]
>
> To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials were underway in the United States and the United Kingdom.[21][22]
>
> A large randomised controlled trial ACTIV-6, published in October 2022, found no significant difference between patients treated with ivermectin and placebo, and was described by Yale medical professor Perry Wilson as the "final nail in the coffin" for ivermectin as a treatment for covid.[23][24]
>
> Research limitations, ethics and fraud
> Many studies on ivermectin for COVID‑19 have serious methodological limitations, resulting in very low evidence certainty.[18][25][26][8] Several publications that supported the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID‑19 have been retracted due to errors, unverifiable data, and ethical concerns.[12][27][28]
>
> Several high-profile publications purporting to demonstrate reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients were later retracted due to suspected data falsification.[29][30] This only added to confusion among the media and lay public,[28] as these publications had been widely cited by ivermectin supporters and included in meta-analyses.[27][12][31]
>
> In January 2022, 22 inmates at the Washington County Detention Center in Arkansas filed a lawsuit over hundreds of ivermectin pills given to them as "vitamins" in 2020.[32]
>
> In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued expressions of concern against two positive systematic reviews of ivermectin for COVID-19 which it had published in 2021, because of suspicions about the underlying data that would undermine these papers' findings of benefit.[33][34][35]
>
> In Mexico City the government distributed ivermectin widely as a COVID-19 treatment and published the observed results on the SocArXiv archive as a research paper. The paper was subsequently withdrawn by the archive citing concerns that it was unethical, as it effectively was an experiment carried out on people without gaining informed consent. Philip N. Cohen of the SocArXiv steering committee said "the article is of very poor quality or deliberately false and misleading" and that its removal was justified to prevent public harm.[36]"
>
> "Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database"
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9020491/
>
> "An Ivermectin Influencer Died. Now His Followers Are Worried About Their Own ‘Severe’ Symptoms."
>
> "(Vice) Danny Lemoi took a daily dose of veterinary-grade ivermectin and told his thousands of followers to give the drug to children. He died of a common side effect of the medication.
>
> Just before 7 am on March 3, Danny Lemoi posted an update in his hugely popular pro-ivermectin Telegram group, Dirt Road Discussions: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”
>
> Hours later, Lemoi was dead."
>
> https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/
>
> TB

I left out one of the links. From the complete dummy's guide to everything. And a starting point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic

TB

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 11:55:34 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:05:45 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> > > The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
> > > something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
> > > through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
> > > therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!
> > >
> > > <https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
> > "'It's going to disappear':
> > A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
> > By Daniel Wolfe and Daniel Dale, CNN
> > Last updated October 31, 2020
> > In his first speech after his hospitalization for Covid-19, President Donald Trump stood on a White House balcony on October 10 and made a grand declaration about the coronavirus: “It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”
> >
> > His words might have sounded more dramatic had he not been saying the same thing for eight months.
> >
> > Trump has stuck to the refrain no matter what has been happening with the pandemic. Since February, the President has declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing.
> >
> > His proclamations have been wildly inaccurate. When Trump first started making the claim in February, it was about the time the US had just suffered its very first known Covid-19 death. More than 220,000 deaths later, Trump continues to falsely claim that the virus will somehow just go away — even as the US experiences yet another surge in cases and hospitalizations."
> > [snip]
> >
> > https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/index.html
> >
> > "Some in vitro drug screening studies early in the pandemic showed that ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[13] Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2–2.8 μM.[6][14]
> >
> > However, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect while treating COVID-19.[15][16] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and may be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is believed to be via the suppression of a host cellular process,[15] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[17][18][19] Several other drugs which inhibit importin α/β1 at therapeutic doses have failed clinical trials due to systemic toxicity and a narrow therapeutic window.[20]
> >
> > To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials were underway in the United States and the United Kingdom.[21][22]
> >
> > A large randomised controlled trial ACTIV-6, published in October 2022, found no significant difference between patients treated with ivermectin and placebo, and was described by Yale medical professor Perry Wilson as the "final nail in the coffin" for ivermectin as a treatment for covid.[23][24]
> >
> > Research limitations, ethics and fraud
> > Many studies on ivermectin for COVID‑19 have serious methodological limitations, resulting in very low evidence certainty.[18][25][26][8] Several publications that supported the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID‑19 have been retracted due to errors, unverifiable data, and ethical concerns.[12][27][28]
> >
> > Several high-profile publications purporting to demonstrate reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients were later retracted due to suspected data falsification.[29][30] This only added to confusion among the media and lay public,[28] as these publications had been widely cited by ivermectin supporters and included in meta-analyses.[27][12][31]
> >
> > In January 2022, 22 inmates at the Washington County Detention Center in Arkansas filed a lawsuit over hundreds of ivermectin pills given to them as "vitamins" in 2020.[32]
> >
> > In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued expressions of concern against two positive systematic reviews of ivermectin for COVID-19 which it had published in 2021, because of suspicions about the underlying data that would undermine these papers' findings of benefit.[33][34][35]
> >
> > In Mexico City the government distributed ivermectin widely as a COVID-19 treatment and published the observed results on the SocArXiv archive as a research paper. The paper was subsequently withdrawn by the archive citing concerns that it was unethical, as it effectively was an experiment carried out on people without gaining informed consent. Philip N. Cohen of the SocArXiv steering committee said "the article is of very poor quality or deliberately false and misleading" and that its removal was justified to prevent public harm.[36]"
> >
> > "Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database"
> >
> > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9020491/
> >
> > "An Ivermectin Influencer Died. Now His Followers Are Worried About Their Own ‘Severe’ Symptoms."
> >
> > "(Vice) Danny Lemoi took a daily dose of veterinary-grade ivermectin and told his thousands of followers to give the drug to children. He died of a common side effect of the medication.
> >
> > Just before 7 am on March 3, Danny Lemoi posted an update in his hugely popular pro-ivermectin Telegram group, Dirt Road Discussions: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”
> >
> > Hours later, Lemoi was dead."
> >
> > https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/
> >
> > TB
> I left out one of the links. From the complete dummy's guide to everything. And a starting point.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic
>
> TB

I think you answered perfectly in another post, and it just fits the stick perfectly
“The old woman replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss politics, when you don't know shit?""

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 1:28:05 PM UTC-7, robert caprel wrote:
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 11:55:34 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:05:45 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> > > > The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
> > > > something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
> > > > through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
> > > > therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!
> > > >
> > > > <https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
> > > "'It's going to disappear':
> > > A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
> > > By Daniel Wolfe and Daniel Dale, CNN
> > > Last updated October 31, 2020
> > > In his first speech after his hospitalization for Covid-19, President Donald Trump stood on a White House balcony on October 10 and made a grand declaration about the coronavirus: “It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”
> > >
> > > His words might have sounded more dramatic had he not been saying the same thing for eight months.
> > >
> > > Trump has stuck to the refrain no matter what has been happening with the pandemic. Since February, the President has declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing.
> > >
> > > His proclamations have been wildly inaccurate. When Trump first started making the claim in February, it was about the time the US had just suffered its very first known Covid-19 death. More than 220,000 deaths later, Trump continues to falsely claim that the virus will somehow just go away — even as the US experiences yet another surge in cases and hospitalizations."
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/index.html
> > >
> > > "Some in vitro drug screening studies early in the pandemic showed that ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[13] Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2–2.8 μM.[6][14]
> > >
> > > However, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect while treating COVID-19.[15][16] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and may be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is believed to be via the suppression of a host cellular process,[15] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[17][18][19] Several other drugs which inhibit importin α/β1 at therapeutic doses have failed clinical trials due to systemic toxicity and a narrow therapeutic window.[20]
> > >
> > > To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials were underway in the United States and the United Kingdom.[21][22]
> > >
> > > A large randomised controlled trial ACTIV-6, published in October 2022, found no significant difference between patients treated with ivermectin and placebo, and was described by Yale medical professor Perry Wilson as the "final nail in the coffin" for ivermectin as a treatment for covid.[23][24]
> > >
> > > Research limitations, ethics and fraud
> > > Many studies on ivermectin for COVID‑19 have serious methodological limitations, resulting in very low evidence certainty.[18][25][26][8] Several publications that supported the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID‑19 have been retracted due to errors, unverifiable data, and ethical concerns.[12][27][28]
> > >
> > > Several high-profile publications purporting to demonstrate reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients were later retracted due to suspected data falsification.[29][30] This only added to confusion among the media and lay public,[28] as these publications had been widely cited by ivermectin supporters and included in meta-analyses.[27][12][31]
> > >
> > > In January 2022, 22 inmates at the Washington County Detention Center in Arkansas filed a lawsuit over hundreds of ivermectin pills given to them as "vitamins" in 2020.[32]
> > >
> > > In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued expressions of concern against two positive systematic reviews of ivermectin for COVID-19 which it had published in 2021, because of suspicions about the underlying data that would undermine these papers' findings of benefit.[33][34][35]
> > >
> > > In Mexico City the government distributed ivermectin widely as a COVID-19 treatment and published the observed results on the SocArXiv archive as a research paper. The paper was subsequently withdrawn by the archive citing concerns that it was unethical, as it effectively was an experiment carried out on people without gaining informed consent. Philip N. Cohen of the SocArXiv steering committee said "the article is of very poor quality or deliberately false and misleading" and that its removal was justified to prevent public harm.[36]"
> > >
> > > "Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database"
> > >
> > > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9020491/
> > >
> > > "An Ivermectin Influencer Died. Now His Followers Are Worried About Their Own ‘Severe’ Symptoms."
> > >
> > > "(Vice) Danny Lemoi took a daily dose of veterinary-grade ivermectin and told his thousands of followers to give the drug to children. He died of a common side effect of the medication.
> > >
> > > Just before 7 am on March 3, Danny Lemoi posted an update in his hugely popular pro-ivermectin Telegram group, Dirt Road Discussions: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”
> > >
> > > Hours later, Lemoi was dead."
> > >
> > > https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/
> > >
> > > TB
> > I left out one of the links. From the complete dummy's guide to everything. And a starting point.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic
> >
> > TB
> I think you answered perfectly in another post, and it just fits the stick perfectly
> “The old woman replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss politics, when you don't know shit?""

I wasn't posting in this thread for stinks. I just wanted to put up a warning sign for any poor fool who stumbles on this thread and takes it seriously.

I hope stinks is eating as much of that shit as he can handle. LOL More likely, he's following orange jesus's example. Sell the magaloons snake oil, but head for the best that science has to offer when it's your own ass on the line.

TB

On 10/13/2023 2:13 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 1:28:05 PM UTC-7, robert caprel wrote:
>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 11:55:34 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:05:45 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
>>>>> The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
>>>>> something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
>>>>> through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
>>>>> therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
>>>> "'It's going to disappear':
>>>> A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
>>>> By Daniel Wolfe and Daniel Dale, CNN
>>>> Last updated October 31, 2020
>>>> In his first speech after his hospitalization for Covid-19, President Donald Trump stood on a White House balcony on October 10 and made a grand declaration about the coronavirus: “It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”
>>>>
>>>> His words might have sounded more dramatic had he not been saying the same thing for eight months.
>>>>
>>>> Trump has stuck to the refrain no matter what has been happening with the pandemic. Since February, the President has declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing.
>>>>
>>>> His proclamations have been wildly inaccurate. When Trump first started making the claim in February, it was about the time the US had just suffered its very first known Covid-19 death. More than 220,000 deaths later, Trump continues to falsely claim that the virus will somehow just go away — even as the US experiences yet another surge in cases and hospitalizations."
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/index.html
>>>>
>>>> "Some in vitro drug screening studies early in the pandemic showed that ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[13] Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2–2.8 μM.[6][14]
>>>>
>>>> However, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect while treating COVID-19.[15][16] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and may be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is believed to be via the suppression of a host cellular process,[15] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[17][18][19] Several other drugs which inhibit importin α/β1 at therapeutic doses have failed clinical trials due to systemic toxicity and a narrow therapeutic window.[20]
>>>>
>>>> To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials were underway in the United States and the United Kingdom.[21][22]
>>>>
>>>> A large randomised controlled trial ACTIV-6, published in October 2022, found no significant difference between patients treated with ivermectin and placebo, and was described by Yale medical professor Perry Wilson as the "final nail in the coffin" for ivermectin as a treatment for covid.[23][24]
>>>>
>>>> Research limitations, ethics and fraud
>>>> Many studies on ivermectin for COVID‑19 have serious methodological limitations, resulting in very low evidence certainty.[18][25][26][8] Several publications that supported the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID‑19 have been retracted due to errors, unverifiable data, and ethical concerns.[12][27][28]
>>>>
>>>> Several high-profile publications purporting to demonstrate reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients were later retracted due to suspected data falsification.[29][30] This only added to confusion among the media and lay public,[28] as these publications had been widely cited by ivermectin supporters and included in meta-analyses.[27][12][31]
>>>>
>>>> In January 2022, 22 inmates at the Washington County Detention Center in Arkansas filed a lawsuit over hundreds of ivermectin pills given to them as "vitamins" in 2020.[32]
>>>>
>>>> In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued expressions of concern against two positive systematic reviews of ivermectin for COVID-19 which it had published in 2021, because of suspicions about the underlying data that would undermine these papers' findings of benefit.[33][34][35]
>>>>
>>>> In Mexico City the government distributed ivermectin widely as a COVID-19 treatment and published the observed results on the SocArXiv archive as a research paper. The paper was subsequently withdrawn by the archive citing concerns that it was unethical, as it effectively was an experiment carried out on people without gaining informed consent. Philip N. Cohen of the SocArXiv steering committee said "the article is of very poor quality or deliberately false and misleading" and that its removal was justified to prevent public harm.[36]"
>>>>
>>>> "Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database"
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9020491/
>>>>
>>>> "An Ivermectin Influencer Died. Now His Followers Are Worried About Their Own ‘Severe’ Symptoms."
>>>>
>>>> "(Vice) Danny Lemoi took a daily dose of veterinary-grade ivermectin and told his thousands of followers to give the drug to children. He died of a common side effect of the medication.
>>>>
>>>> Just before 7 am on March 3, Danny Lemoi posted an update in his hugely popular pro-ivermectin Telegram group, Dirt Road Discussions: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”
>>>>
>>>> Hours later, Lemoi was dead."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/
>>>>
>>>> TB
>>> I left out one of the links. From the complete dummy's guide to everything. And a starting point.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic
>>>
>>> TB
>> I think you answered perfectly in another post, and it just fits the stick perfectly
>> “The old woman replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss politics, when you don't know shit?""
>
> I wasn't posting in this thread for stinks. I just wanted to put up a warning sign for any poor fool who stumbles on this thread and takes it seriously.
>
> I hope stinks is eating as much of that shit as he can handle. LOL More likely, he's following orange jesus's example. Sell the magaloons snake oil, but head for the best that science has to offer when it's your own ass on the line.
>
> TB

And do it sneakily...

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 6:50:59 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
> On 10/13/2023 2:13 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 1:28:05 PM UTC-7, robert caprel wrote:
> >> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 11:55:34 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 8:05:45 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> >>>>> The left was willing to let people die just because Trump said
> >>>>> something. Evil sick people. So many lives could have been saved
> >>>>> through the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with remediation
> >>>>> therapy, but the marxists said no. True evil!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/11/new-study-finds-trump-backed-hydroxychloroquine-was-an-effective-covid-treatment-after-all/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
> >>>> "'It's going to disappear':
> >>>> A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
> >>>> By Daniel Wolfe and Daniel Dale, CNN
> >>>> Last updated October 31, 2020
> >>>> In his first speech after his hospitalization for Covid-19, President Donald Trump stood on a White House balcony on October 10 and made a grand declaration about the coronavirus: “It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”
> >>>>
> >>>> His words might have sounded more dramatic had he not been saying the same thing for eight months.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump has stuck to the refrain no matter what has been happening with the pandemic. Since February, the President has declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing.
> >>>>
> >>>> His proclamations have been wildly inaccurate. When Trump first started making the claim in February, it was about the time the US had just suffered its very first known Covid-19 death. More than 220,000 deaths later, Trump continues to falsely claim that the virus will somehow just go away — even as the US experiences yet another surge in cases and hospitalizations."
> >>>> [snip]
> >>>>
> >>>> https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> "Some in vitro drug screening studies early in the pandemic showed that ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[13] Subsequent studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2–2.8 μM.[6][14]
> >>>>
> >>>> However, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect while treating COVID-19.[15][16] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and may be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is believed to be via the suppression of a host cellular process,[15] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[17][18][19] Several other drugs which inhibit importin α/β1 at therapeutic doses have failed clinical trials due to systemic toxicity and a narrow therapeutic window.[20]
> >>>>
> >>>> To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials were underway in the United States and the United Kingdom.[21][22]
> >>>>
> >>>> A large randomised controlled trial ACTIV-6, published in October 2022, found no significant difference between patients treated with ivermectin and placebo, and was described by Yale medical professor Perry Wilson as the "final nail in the coffin" for ivermectin as a treatment for covid.[23][24]
> >>>>
> >>>> Research limitations, ethics and fraud
> >>>> Many studies on ivermectin for COVID‑19 have serious methodological limitations, resulting in very low evidence certainty.[18][25][26][8] Several publications that supported the efficacy of ivermectin for COVID‑19 have been retracted due to errors, unverifiable data, and ethical concerns.[12][27][28]
> >>>>
> >>>> Several high-profile publications purporting to demonstrate reduced mortality in COVID-19 patients were later retracted due to suspected data falsification.[29][30] This only added to confusion among the media and lay public,[28] as these publications had been widely cited by ivermectin supporters and included in meta-analyses.[27][12][31]
> >>>>
> >>>> In January 2022, 22 inmates at the Washington County Detention Center in Arkansas filed a lawsuit over hundreds of ivermectin pills given to them as "vitamins" in 2020.[32]
> >>>>
> >>>> In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued expressions of concern against two positive systematic reviews of ivermectin for COVID-19 which it had published in 2021, because of suspicions about the underlying data that would undermine these papers' findings of benefit.[33][34][35]
> >>>>
> >>>> In Mexico City the government distributed ivermectin widely as a COVID-19 treatment and published the observed results on the SocArXiv archive as a research paper. The paper was subsequently withdrawn by the archive citing concerns that it was unethical, as it effectively was an experiment carried out on people without gaining informed consent. Philip N. Cohen of the SocArXiv steering committee said "the article is of very poor quality or deliberately false and misleading" and that its removal was justified to prevent public harm.[36]"
> >>>>
> >>>> "Adverse drug reactions associated with ivermectin use for COVID-19 reported in the World Health Organization's pharmacovigilance database"
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9020491/
> >>>>
> >>>> "An Ivermectin Influencer Died. Now His Followers Are Worried About Their Own ‘Severe’ Symptoms."
> >>>>
> >>>> "(Vice) Danny Lemoi took a daily dose of veterinary-grade ivermectin and told his thousands of followers to give the drug to children. He died of a common side effect of the medication.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just before 7 am on March 3, Danny Lemoi posted an update in his hugely popular pro-ivermectin Telegram group, Dirt Road Discussions: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”
> >>>>
> >>>> Hours later, Lemoi was dead."
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/
> >>>>
> >>>> TB
> >>> I left out one of the links. From the complete dummy's guide to everything. And a starting point.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic
> >>>
> >>> TB
> >> I think you answered perfectly in another post, and it just fits the stick perfectly
> >> “The old woman replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss politics, when you don't know shit?""
> >
> > I wasn't posting in this thread for stinks. I just wanted to put up a warning sign for any poor fool who stumbles on this thread and takes it seriously.
> >
> > I hope stinks is eating as much of that shit as he can handle. LOL More likely, he's following orange jesus's example. Sell the magaloons snake oil, but head for the best that science has to offer when it's your own ass on the line.
> >
> > TB
> And do it sneakily...

I am both a little disappointed and not surprised that *none* of our magaloons can offer a glowing personal endorsement of Ivermectin based on their personal experience. I was hoping that someone could at least tell us all about some distant cousin somewhere who had been saved from imminent death by something they bought at their farm supply store while they were buying corn for their chickens. Most likely none of our resident megaloons have ever actually ingested even a small drop of that shit--because they absolutely know what sort of liar their idiot idol is. They like to preach the gospel, but when it comes right down to it--they ain't eatin' none of that shit.

I can offer a glowing non-endorsement, based on my real life actual experience. I've had all the shots, except the most recent one, and I will get that soon. When we caught Covid, science told us we were right. This is the real deal. I followed the science and got some Paxlovid from a pharmacy. You know, instead of picking up my medication at the local feed and seed store. That stuff leaves a nasty taste in your mouth for a week after you stop eating it. BUT, *but*, but......... Nothing that happened to me has convinced me that I should eat any amount of horse medicine. Catching Covid again would still be better than eating Ivermectin for any amount of time. It's extremely unlikely that it would help enough to pay for itself.