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 by: A. Filip - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:17 UTC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
> U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
> Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
> in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
> allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
> The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
> several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> ruling — should not be considered as such. […]

https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
> Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be displayed
> Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM

Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
(żydowskiej) menory.

--
A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
| Ten, kto ma guza na czole, powinien go od czasu do czasu pomacać.
| (Przysłowie arabskie)

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 by: a a - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:21 UTC

On Wednesday, 22 December 2021 at 15:17:34 UTC+1, A. Filip wrote:
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
> > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
> > Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
> > in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
> > allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
> > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
> > several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> > ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
>
> https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
> > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be displayed
> > Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
>
> Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
> religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
> Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
> (żydowskiej) menory.
>
> --
> A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
> | Ten, kto ma guza na czole, powinien go od czasu do czasu pomacać.
> | (Przysłowie arabskie)
==But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> ruling — should not be considered as such. […]

Za chwile orzekną, że krzyż to też nie jest symbolem religijnym,
itd itrd
a potem tylko juz nadejda Muzułmanie
i każdy będzie musial kupic dywanik

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 by: Basia - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:32 UTC

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
>
> > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
> > Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
> > in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
> > allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
> > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
> > several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> > ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
>
> https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
>
> > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be displayed
> > Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
>
> Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
> religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
> Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
> (żydowskiej) menory.

Gdybys posiadal nieco szersza wiedze
nie dziwilo by Cie orzeczenie.

Who Brought Christmas Trees to America?

Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The first record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German settlers of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many German homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had community trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans.

It is not surprising that, like many other festive Christmas customs, the tree was adopted so late in America. To the New England Puritans, Christmas was sacred. The pilgrims’s second governor, William Bradford, wrote that he tried hard to stamp out “pagan mockery” of the observance, penalizing any frivolity. The influential Oliver Cromwell preached against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated trees, and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.” In 1659, the General Court of Massachusetts enacted a law making any observance of December 25 (other than a church service) a penal offense; people were fined for hanging decorations. That stern solemnity continued until the 19th century, when the influx of German and Irish immigrants undermined the Puritan legacy.

https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees

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 by: Basia - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:38 UTC

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:32:16 AM UTC-8, Basia wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
>
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
> >
> > > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
> > > Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
> > > in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
> > > allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
> > > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
> > > several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> > > ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
> >
> > https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
> >
> > > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be displayed
> > > Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
> >
> > Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
> > religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
> > Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
> > (żydowskiej) menory.
> Gdybys posiadal nieco szersza wiedze
> nie dziwilo by Cie orzeczenie.
>
> Who Brought Christmas Trees to America?
>
> Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The first record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German settlers of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many German homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had community trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans.
>
> It is not surprising that, like many other festive Christmas customs, the tree was adopted so late in America. To the New England Puritans, Christmas was sacred. The pilgrims’s second governor, William Bradford, wrote that he tried hard to stamp out “pagan mockery” of the observance, penalizing any frivolity. The influential Oliver Cromwell preached against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated trees, and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.” In 1659, the General Court of Massachusetts enacted a law making any observance of December 25 (other than a church service) a penal offense; people were fined for hanging decorations. That stern solemnity continued until the 19th century, when the influx of German and Irish immigrants undermined the Puritan legacy.
>
> https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees

Choinka Bozo-Narodzeniowa jest symbolem
germanizacji chrzescijanskiego swieta. Nie
jest sama w sobie symbolem religijnym,

....chyba ze w Niemczech (?).

Basia (Ona/Jej)

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 by: Basia - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:56 UTC

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:38:17 AM UTC-8, Basia wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:32:16 AM UTC-8, Basia wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
> > >
> > > > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
> > > > Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
> > > > in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
> > > > allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
> > > > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
> > > > several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> > > > ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
> > >
> > > https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
> > >
> > > > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be displayed
> > > > Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
> > >
> > > Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
> > > religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
> > > Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
> > > (żydowskiej) menory.

Czy Balwan jest symbolem religijnym?

> > Gdybys posiadal nieco szersza wiedze
> > nie dziwilo by Cie orzeczenie.
> >
> > Who Brought Christmas Trees to America?
> >
> > Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The first record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German settlers of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many German homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had community trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans.
> >
> > It is not surprising that, like many other festive Christmas customs, the tree was adopted so late in America. To the New England Puritans, Christmas was sacred. The pilgrims’s second governor, William Bradford, wrote that he tried hard to stamp out “pagan mockery” of the observance, penalizing any frivolity. The influential Oliver Cromwell preached against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated trees, and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.” In 1659, the General Court of Massachusetts enacted a law making any observance of December 25 (other than a church service) a penal offense; people were fined for hanging decorations. That stern solemnity continued until the 19th century, when the influx of German and Irish immigrants undermined the Puritan legacy.
> >
> > https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees
> Choinka Bozo-Narodzeniowa jest symbolem
> germanizacji chrzescijanskiego swieta. Nie
> jest sama w sobie symbolem religijnym,
>
> ...chyba ze w Niemczech (?).

Basia (Ona/Jej)

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 by: andal - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:03 UTC

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 06:32:15 -0800 (PST), Basia wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-
e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
>>
>> > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
>> > Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
>> > in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
>> > allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
>> > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
>> > several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
>> > ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
>>
>> https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-
symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
>>
>> > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be
>> > displayed Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
>>
>> Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
>> religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
>> Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
>> (żydowskiej) menory.
>
> Gdybys posiadal nieco szersza wiedze nie dziwilo by Cie orzeczenie.
>
> Who Brought Christmas Trees to America?
>
> Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The first
> record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German settlers
> of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many German
> homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had community
> trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were
> seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans.
>
> It is not surprising that, like many other festive Christmas customs,
> the tree was adopted so late in America. To the New England Puritans,
> Christmas was sacred. The pilgrims’s second governor, William Bradford,
> wrote that he tried hard to stamp out “pagan mockery” of the observance,
> penalizing any frivolity. The influential Oliver Cromwell preached
> against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated trees,
> and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.” In 1659,
> the General Court of Massachusetts enacted a law making any observance
> of December 25 (other than a church service) a penal offense; people
> were fined for hanging decorations. That stern solemnity continued until
> the 19th century, when the influx of German and Irish immigrants
> undermined the Puritan legacy.
>
> https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees

Baska, czy Germans schowali hitlera w Ameryce?

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 by: Basia - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:02 UTC

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 7:03:26 AM UTC-8, andal wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 06:32:15 -0800 (PST), Basia wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-aren-
> e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
> >>
> >> > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a Supreme
> >> > Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not religious symbols
> >> > in a case centered around whether or not a school ceremony should
> >> > allow a menorah, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
> >> > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol in
> >> > several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme Court
> >> > ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
> >>
> >> https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-
> symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
> >>
> >> > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be
> >> > displayed Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
> >>
> >> Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
> >> religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora jest.
> >> Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
> >> (żydowskiej) menory.
> >
> > Gdybys posiadal nieco szersza wiedze nie dziwilo by Cie orzeczenie.
> >
> > Who Brought Christmas Trees to America?
> >
> > Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The first
> > record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German settlers
> > of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many German
> > homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had community
> > trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were
> > seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans.
> >
> > It is not surprising that, like many other festive Christmas customs,
> > the tree was adopted so late in America. To the New England Puritans,
> > Christmas was sacred. The pilgrims’s second governor, William Bradford,
> > wrote that he tried hard to stamp out “pagan mockery” of the observance,
> > penalizing any frivolity. The influential Oliver Cromwell preached
> > against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated trees,
> > and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.” In 1659,
> > the General Court of Massachusetts enacted a law making any observance
> > of December 25 (other than a church service) a penal offense; people
> > were fined for hanging decorations. That stern solemnity continued until
> > the 19th century, when the influx of German and Irish immigrants
> > undermined the Puritan legacy.
> >
> > https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees
>
> Baska, czy Germans schowali hitlera w Ameryce?

Niewiem.

Sciac nlode drzewo w lesie przyniesc
do domu na swieta, i przybrac by za dwa
tygodnie obumarle wyrzucic na smietnik
to trzeba choinkowego Hitlera.

Basia

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W dniu 2021-12-22 o 15:56, Basia pisze:

> Czy Balwan jest symbolem religijnym?

Jeśli już, to amerykańskim.

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 by: andal - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:23 UTC

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:02:54 -0800 (PST), Basia wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 7:03:26 AM UTC-8, andal wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 06:32:15 -0800 (PST), Basia wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:17:34 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/christmas-trees-
aren-
>> e2-80-99t-religious-symbols-judge-says/ar-AARWEvU
>> >>
>> >> > U.S. District Judge Beth Labson Freeman, of San Jose, used a
>> >> > Supreme Court ruling to decide that Christmas trees are not
>> >> > religious symbols in a case centered around whether or not a
>> >> > school ceremony should allow a menorah, the San Francisco
>> >> > Chronicle reports.
>> >> > The judge ruled that the menorah is considered a religious symbol
>> >> > in several contexts. But a Christmas tree — based on the Supreme
>> >> > Court ruling — should not be considered as such. […]
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ktvu.com/news/judge-christmas-trees-arent-religious-
>> symbols-menorah-cant-be-displayed
>> >>
>> >> > Judge: Christmas trees aren't religious symbols, menorah won't be
>> >> > displayed Published December 14, 2021 Updated 8:52AM
>> >>
>> >> Streszczając orzeczenie sądu federalnego USA: Choinka symbolem
>> >> religijnych *nie jest* (w oparciu o orzeczenie SCOTUS) a menora
>> >> jest.
>> >> Czyli można mieć "nie religijną" choinkę ale zabronić religijnej
>> >> (żydowskiej) menory.
>> >
>> > Gdybys posiadal nieco szersza wiedze nie dziwilo by Cie orzeczenie.
>> >
>> > Who Brought Christmas Trees to America?
>> >
>> > Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The
>> > first record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German
>> > settlers of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many
>> > German homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had
>> > community trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas
>> > trees were seen as pagan symbols and not accepted by most Americans.
>> >
>> > It is not surprising that, like many other festive Christmas customs,
>> > the tree was adopted so late in America. To the New England Puritans,
>> > Christmas was sacred. The pilgrims’s second governor, William
>> > Bradford, wrote that he tried hard to stamp out “pagan mockery” of
>> > the observance,
>> > penalizing any frivolity. The influential Oliver Cromwell preached
>> > against “the heathen traditions” of Christmas carols, decorated
>> > trees, and any joyful expression that desecrated “that sacred event.”
>> > In 1659, the General Court of Massachusetts enacted a law making any
>> > observance of December 25 (other than a church service) a penal
>> > offense; people were fined for hanging decorations. That stern
>> > solemnity continued until the 19th century, when the influx of German
>> > and Irish immigrants undermined the Puritan legacy.
>> >
>> > https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees
>>
>> Baska, czy Germans schowali hitlera w Ameryce?
>
> Niewiem.
>
> Sciac nlode drzewo w lesie przyniesc do domu na swieta, i przybrac by za
> dwa tygodnie obumarle wyrzucic na smietnik to trzeba choinkowego
> Hitlera.
>
> Basia

nie masz swego lasu?


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