In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the government
of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate country) has
legislated that the tempo of all music played in the country must be in
the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.

Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]

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Rhino

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:05:33 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the government
>of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate country) has
>legislated that the tempo of all music played in the country must be in
>the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.
>
>Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]

Yeah, I remember hearing about this back a few weeks. As I recall even
the national anthem doesn't fit with this new standard.

On Apr 14, 2024 at 5:05:33 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:

> In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the government
> of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate country) has
> legislated that the tempo of all music played in the country must be in
> the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.
>
> Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]

Do they mean played in public or even music you listen to in your own home?
Even if you're wearing headphones and no one else can hear it?

On Apr 14, 2024 at 7:27:23 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:05:33 -0400, Rhino
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>> In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the government
>> of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate country) has
>> legislated that the tempo of all music played in the country must be in
>> the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.
>>
>> Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]
>
> Yeah, I remember hearing about this back a few weeks. As I recall even
> the national anthem doesn't fit with this new standard.

What if you just cut the time signature from 4/4 to 2/2, and the cuts the BPM
in half, too.

Would it be a defense in court to say, "No, your honor, the state is lying.
They're claiming I was rocking out to Tschaikowsky's 4th Symphony at 180 BPM
but the half note had the beat, so it was really only 90 BPM!"

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:05:33 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the government
>of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate country) has
>legislated that the tempo of all music played in the country must be in
>the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.
>
>Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]

So you can play 2nd movement of the Moonlight Sonata but not the 1st
(too slow) or the 3rd (too fast)? Yeah ok

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 22:27:23 -0400
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:05:33 -0400, Rhino
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
> >In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the
> >government of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate
> >country) has legislated that the tempo of all music played in the
> >country must be in the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.
> >
> >Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]
>
> Yeah, I remember hearing about this back a few weeks. As I recall even
> the national anthem doesn't fit with this new standard.

That's one of the first points Neely makes: both the Chechen anthem and
the Russian anthem are outside the speeds allowed -
as is the music playing on the Chechen website that explains the rules!

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Rhino

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 06:14:41 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> On Apr 14, 2024 at 7:27:23 PM PDT, "shawn"
> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:05:33 -0400, Rhino
> > <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the
> >> government of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a
> >> separate country) has legislated that the tempo of all music
> >> played in the country must be in the range of 80 to 116 beats per
> >> minute.
> >>
> >> Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]
> >
> > Yeah, I remember hearing about this back a few weeks. As I recall
> > even the national anthem doesn't fit with this new standard.
>
> What if you just cut the time signature from 4/4 to 2/2, and the cuts
> the BPM in half, too.
>
> Would it be a defense in court to say, "No, your honor, the state is
> lying. They're claiming I was rocking out to Tschaikowsky's 4th
> Symphony at 180 BPM but the half note had the beat, so it was really
> only 90 BPM!"
>
>

That is the essence of many of Neely's observations about this bizarre
new rule. He even enlists a Canadian music professor in the discussion
to get an expert opinion.

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Rhino

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 06:07:58 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> On Apr 14, 2024 at 5:05:33 PM PDT, "Rhino"
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
> > In one of the weirder cultural laws I've ever heard of, the
> > government of Chechnya (which is a region of Russia, not a separate
> > country) has legislated that the tempo of all music played in the
> > country must be in the range of 80 to 116 beats per minute.
> >
> > Adam Neely points out why this is decidedly "problematic":
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q811R6YsM0s [10 minutes]
>
> Do they mean played in public or even music you listen to in your own
> home? Even if you're wearing headphones and no one else can hear it?
>
>
The video does not address those "implementation details" of the law. I
know the Chechen leadership is somewhat authoritarian but I can't
picture Chechen police demanding to listen to your headphones or ear
buds during spot checks to see if you are playing music that is too
fast or too slow. I suspect the law applies to public performances but
don't know how to confirm that. But, of course, I could be wrong and it
may apply to anyone listening to music any time within Chechnya.

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Rhino