On 10/7/2022 10:33, Gary wrote:
> On 10/7/2022 1:25 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> Now then... holy moly Gary, you've gotten a smart phone, and now
>> you're doing YouTube?!? Lol
>
> My computer does YouTube. I've often listened but rarely post one.
> My smart phone has nothing to do with it.

I thought that you posted in the past that you are anti-youtube.
Perhaps I'm think of someone else.

> My landline broke last Tuesday due to old buried lines and the soaking
> wet weather last week. It was supposed to last until Oct.24 but died
> even sooner.

Lines are all over-head here, and the last tech told me that the copper
is over 60 years old, and should have been replaced years ago. They
won't ever do it. He found a new pair of wires to put me on, and the
brief scratchy issue that I had during rainstorms was resolved.
Fortunately, the land line comes in loud and clear.

> Very luckily, my daughter showed up the next morning with my new cell
> phone.

Hopefully you've figured it out well! I think the iPhone interface (and
newer Mac computers) is more friendly for a new smart-phone user.

On 10/7/2022 9:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/7/2022 4:36 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> The accordion is a very versatile instrument. You can do practically
>> anything with it.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8YTXQgYaX8
>
> A friend had his accordion in the back seat of his car and left it
> unlocked. When he came back, there was two accordions.

We had an old accordion at the antique mall in a case for a long time.
It was listed for $150. A guy low-ball offered $75, and the mall owner
said "sold!". He later told me, any chance you can sell an accordion,
SELL IT! haha

On 10/7/2022 17:44, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-10-07 4:59 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I think if we've had the furnace for 20 years and our HVAC guy inspected
>> it this spring, our inspection and maintenance program is adequate.
>> IIRC it's about 93% efficiency.
>>
> I got the impression somewhere they were supposed to be inspected yearly
> but procrastinated and finally got mine checked out last year. I
> contacted the installer and was told it is not mandatory. The tech came
> and looked at it and everything was fine.

My grandfather replaced a 1940's coal furnace, converted into natural
gas, around the time I was born. He tried to call the HVAC tech in the
next year for inspection, but he told him that it's not necessary for
new models, and only call if there was a concern. That was nice of him,
he could have just taken his money annually. If the chimney is still
used for any appliance, home owners should check the clean-out in the
cellar annually.

Me, I like to do things myself. I threaded and installed all of the
black iron plumbing for gas in my house myself. I had a licensed
plumber come and inspect it. He charged me $75 for the service call,
and maybe another half hour of work on top of that. Several of the
connections had to be tightened when he pressure-tested it. I learned
from that... any time I call a professional, I watch them and learn, so
I don't have to call someone next time. He'll answer a question for me
over a quick phone call, at no charge.

On 10/7/2022 8:52, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/7/2022 1:22 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>
>> If you live in an apartment building, you share heat with your
>> neighbors. Joan is in a slightly warmer climate. Autumn is not great.
>
> Could you clarify that? Some heat moves through the walls adjoining.
> Is that what you mean?

Yes, typically 3 of 4 walls in an apartment building are adjoined to the
structure; only one cold outside wall. Some heat is shared between
units. In town houses, that's also an improvement from single-family
homes, with two shared walls. Even with that heat bonus, I'd still
prefer my neighbors to be further from me.

On 10/7/2022 4:40, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> We've got a couple of pleasant days in the 50s today and tomorrow, then
> the 60s to 70s come back for a week or so. I'd love to see some rain;
> it's been very dry here this fall. Still "abnormally dry" here. Maybe
> my dumbass neighbor who burns his leaves will torch his entire lawn.
> OTOH, every day is going to bottom out at or below 50% humidity, which
> I consider very tolerable.

Yes, lower humidity is nice. The few doors in my house that swell in
the summer are all well-functioning now. Perhaps I should plane them
down next spring (again). We've had rather wet weather here. Cold and
rainy... I wish that I could send the rain your way.

Burning leaves is never a good idea. You probably know this, but a thin
layer of leaves left on the ground is far more environmentally friendly.
It retains water and not only helps to prevent flooding, but it helps
the water tables, especially if you've had a dry season.

On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 20:56:19 -0400, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

>On 10/7/2022 9:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/7/2022 4:36 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> The accordion is a very versatile instrument. You can do practically
>>> anything with it.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8YTXQgYaX8
>>
>> A friend had his accordion in the back seat of his car and left it
>> unlocked. When he came back, there was two accordions.
>
>We had an old accordion at the antique mall in a case for a long time.
>It was listed for $150. A guy low-ball offered $75, and the mall owner
>said "sold!". He later told me, any chance you can sell an accordion,
>SELL IT! haha

Why do y'all hate accordions? Are we talking about the same
instrument? I like this for instance:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmlRKVcfMKE>

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

On 10/7/2022 21:17, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 20:56:19 -0400, Michael Trew
> <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>> On 10/7/2022 9:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend had his accordion in the back seat of his car and left it
>>> unlocked. When he came back, there was two accordions.
>>
>> We had an old accordion at the antique mall in a case for a long time.
>> It was listed for $150. A guy low-ball offered $75, and the mall owner
>> said "sold!". He later told me, any chance you can sell an accordion,
>> SELL IT! haha
>
> Why do y'all hate accordions? Are we talking about the same
> instrument? I like this for instance:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmlRKVcfMKE>

Seems to be a running joke. I'm one of the few that will sit and listen
to Slovenian style polkas. I used to listen to them with my
grandmother. If I went to a polka dance at the SNPJ, there might be a
"larger than RFC" age gap between myself and the other attendees (likely
45+ yrs difference).

Before you ask, SNPJ: https://snpj.org/about/history-of-snpj/

On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:04:56 -0400, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

>On 10/7/2022 21:17, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Oct 2022 20:56:19 -0400, Michael Trew
>> <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2022 9:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A friend had his accordion in the back seat of his car and left it
>>>> unlocked. When he came back, there was two accordions.
>>>
>>> We had an old accordion at the antique mall in a case for a long time.
>>> It was listed for $150. A guy low-ball offered $75, and the mall owner
>>> said "sold!". He later told me, any chance you can sell an accordion,
>>> SELL IT! haha
>>
>> Why do y'all hate accordions? Are we talking about the same
>> instrument? I like this for instance:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmlRKVcfMKE>
>
>Seems to be a running joke.

I know that most people, including me, hate bagpipes, but the
accordion issue is new to me.

>I'm one of the few that will sit and listen
>to Slovenian style polkas. I used to listen to them with my
>grandmother. If I went to a polka dance at the SNPJ, there might be a
>"larger than RFC" age gap between myself and the other attendees (likely
>45+ yrs difference).
>
>Before you ask, SNPJ: https://snpj.org/about/history-of-snpj/

I would have sworn this was German or Austrian:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxIoCAtI-Eo>

But it's Slovenian.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

On 2022-10-08, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
> On 10/7/2022 17:44, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-10-07 4:59 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I think if we've had the furnace for 20 years and our HVAC guy inspected
>>> it this spring, our inspection and maintenance program is adequate.
>>> IIRC it's about 93% efficiency.
>>>
>> I got the impression somewhere they were supposed to be inspected yearly
>> but procrastinated and finally got mine checked out last year. I
>> contacted the installer and was told it is not mandatory. The tech came
>> and looked at it and everything was fine.
>
> My grandfather replaced a 1940's coal furnace, converted into natural
> gas, around the time I was born. He tried to call the HVAC tech in the
> next year for inspection, but he told him that it's not necessary for
> new models, and only call if there was a concern. That was nice of him,
> he could have just taken his money annually. If the chimney is still
> used for any appliance, home owners should check the clean-out in the
> cellar annually.

Heh. Chimney. How quaint. Both our furnace and our water heater
vent through PVC pipes.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 08 Oct 2022 08:45:00 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2022-10-08, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>> On 10/7/2022 17:44, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>> I got the impression somewhere they were supposed to be inspected yearly
>>> but procrastinated and finally got mine checked out last year. I
>>> contacted the installer and was told it is not mandatory. The tech came
>>> and looked at it and everything was fine.
>>
>> My grandfather replaced a 1940's coal furnace, converted into natural
>> gas, around the time I was born. He tried to call the HVAC tech in the
>> next year for inspection, but he told him that it's not necessary for
>> new models, and only call if there was a concern. That was nice of him,
>> he could have just taken his money annually. If the chimney is still
>> used for any appliance, home owners should check the clean-out in the
>> cellar annually.
>
>Heh. Chimney. How quaint. Both our furnace and our water heater
>vent through PVC pipes.

If it wasn't for RFC I'd never have known this.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

Michael Trew wrote:
> I thought that you posted in the past that you are anti-youtube. Perhaps
> I'm think of someone else.

Probably me. That was only when I used dial-up and I never bothered
with youtube - took too long to load.

> Hopefully you've figured it out well!  I think the iPhone interface (and
> newer Mac computers) is more friendly for a new smart-phone user.

I know the "basics" of using it for phone calls.
All the luxuries of a smart phone will come in time.
Soon, I'll be able to post pics here again.

I used a flip-phone for about 7 years. Very easy.
The smart phone is a different animal.

On 10/7/2022 9:05 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 10/7/2022 8:52, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/7/2022 1:22 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>>> If you live in an apartment building, you share heat with your
>>> neighbors.  Joan is in a slightly warmer climate.  Autumn is not great.
>>
>> Could you clarify that? Some heat moves through the walls adjoining.
>> Is that what you mean?
>
> Yes, typically 3 of 4 walls in an apartment building are adjoined to the
> structure; only one cold outside wall.  Some heat is shared between
> units.

Bit different setup with my apartment.
- East walls, all outside walls
- West walls, all outside walls
- South side - 1/3 outside walls
- North side - 1/3 outside walls

As I live in an elevated 1st floor apartment:
- my floors have an unheated basement below
- my ceilings are insulated by the 2nd story apartment.

Michael Trew wrote:
> Yes, lower humidity is nice.  The few doors in my house that swell in
> the summer are all well-functioning now.  Perhaps I should plane them
> down next spring (again).

Try this first:
Take off those doors when it's dry and they work fine, seal tops and
bottoms with 2 coats of anything - paint, varnish, wood sealer.

This usually fixes indoor swelling issues.

On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
> > I thought that you posted in the past that you are anti-youtube. Perhaps
> > I'm think of someone else.
> Probably me. That was only when I used dial-up and I never bothered
> with youtube - took too long to load.
> > Hopefully you've figured it out well! I think the iPhone interface (and
> > newer Mac computers) is more friendly for a new smart-phone user.
> I know the "basics" of using it for phone calls.
> All the luxuries of a smart phone will come in time.
> Soon, I'll be able to post pics here again.
>
> I used a flip-phone for about 7 years. Very easy.
> The smart phone is a different animal.

As far as personal tools goes, the smart phone must be the king of them all.. For most kids, it is their only personal computer. It should not be called a "phone" since most people these days don't spend much time using the phone function. "Tricorder" might be a good choice.
Taking pictures is fun.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/VAFYXjnb7oUZKAP99

On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 6:09:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 2:16:37 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > Michael Trew wrote:
> > > I thought that you posted in the past that you are anti-youtube. Perhaps
> > > I'm think of someone else.
> > Probably me. That was only when I used dial-up and I never bothered
> > with youtube - took too long to load.
> > > Hopefully you've figured it out well! I think the iPhone interface (and
> > > newer Mac computers) is more friendly for a new smart-phone user.
> > I know the "basics" of using it for phone calls.
> > All the luxuries of a smart phone will come in time.
> > Soon, I'll be able to post pics here again.
> >
> > I used a flip-phone for about 7 years. Very easy.
> > The smart phone is a different animal.
> As far as personal tools goes, the smart phone must be the king of them all. For most kids, it is their only personal computer. It should not be called a "phone" since most people these days don't spend much time using the phone function. "Tricorder" might be a good choice.
> Taking pictures is fun.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/VAFYXjnb7oUZKAP99

Does Woody Allen look like Henry Kissinger?

On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:35:00 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
> > Yes, lower humidity is nice. The few doors in my house that swell in
> > the summer are all well-functioning now. Perhaps I should plane them
> > down next spring (again).
> Try this first:
> Take off those doors when it's dry and they work fine, seal tops and
> bottoms with 2 coats of anything - paint, varnish, wood sealer.
>
If it's paint, 2 *thin* coats.
>
> This usually fixes indoor swelling issues.
>
I've been enjoying painting for the last week and
a half or so. I've gotten to play perfectionist,
caulking all of the cracks around all the trim, thin
(and thicker when rolled on) coats of primer (I
love that cheap-ass Kilz2). I managed to score a
5 gal bucket of barely off white (in a gray way)
nice Behr flat for $45.
We're taking off all of the doors, and I'm stripping
paint off of hinges, and heating registers that are
oddball sized and can't merely be replaced. Years
of schlock painting by previous homeowners is
being corrected. Paint on hinges and outlet covers
is maddening.

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons wrote:
....
> I've been enjoying painting for the last week and
> a half or so. I've gotten to play perfectionist,
> caulking all of the cracks around all the trim, thin
> (and thicker when rolled on) coats of primer (I
> love that cheap-ass Kilz2). ...

we've been restaining the house, it was getting
pretty bad. some spots had lichen and moss growing
on it. other areas completely cracked and needed
protection. hope this is the last time i have to
do something like this. it's a lot of work just to
get all the prep work done, and then each board
needs the edges cut in with a brush before i can
roll it.

three more days of work and i should be about
half way done, may not get it all done this fall
but at least the worst of it will look much better.

songbird