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Re: Opening traps are killers

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 by: Eli Kesef - Tue, 6 Apr 2021 18:22 UTC

Bs"d

In this game against an 1850: https://lichess.org/qL0IEXU172oX I myself tried a Fried Liver against the enemy. Everything went fine, except on move 6, when I could smack in on f7, and sacrifice my horse there and draw the enemy king to the midst of the board, I just didn't do it. In stead I played d4.
This move I learned from Bobby Fischer, who said that that makes the Fried Liver attack much stronger.
And when it comes to chess I'm just not going to disagree with Bobby, so I first played d4. And then, given the chance, I smack my horse in on f7.

In this game however, the enemy, after my move d4, had the audacity to take my pawn on d4 with his horse. I was very happy about that, because I knew from experience, and also mostly from my chess books, that when the enemy takes that pawn on d4, my follow up move c3 will cost him a horse.
And that's what happened. The enemy came out of the opening with a horse missing, and the rest was just a matter of mopping up.

It's great to know something about openings.

https://tinyurl.com/killtrap

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 by: Ken Blake - Tue, 6 Apr 2021 20:07 UTC

On 4/6/2021 11:22 AM, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
>
> In this game against an 1850: https://lichess.org/qL0IEXU172oX I myself tried a Fried Liver against the enemy.

You did not.

> Everything went fine, except on move 6, when I could smack in on f7, and sacrifice my horse there and draw the enemy king to the midst of the
> board, I just didn't do it.

6. Nxf7 is the move that characterizes the Fried Liver Attack. Since you
didn't play that move, it was *not* a Fried Liver Attack.

> In stead I played d4.
> This move I learned from Bobby Fischer, who said that that makes the Fried Liver attack much stronger.

He certainly didn't say that, since 6. d4 has nothing to do with the
Fried Liver Attack. Moreover 6. d4 was a well-known move well before
Fischer's time, and was thought to be a much better alternative than the
Fried Liver Attack.

Is it still thought to be better? I don't know. I haven't kept up with
the theory.

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 by: Eli Kesef - Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:18 UTC

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:07:41 PM UTC+3, Ken Blake wrote:
> On 4/6/2021 11:22 AM, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > Bs"d
> >
> > In this game against an 1850: https://lichess.org/qL0IEXU172oX I myself tried a Fried Liver against the enemy.
> You did not.
> > Everything went fine, except on move 6, when I could smack in on f7, and sacrifice my horse there and draw the enemy king to the midst of the
> > board, I just didn't do it.
> 6. Nxf7 is the move that characterizes the Fried Liver Attack. Since you
> didn't play that move, it was *not* a Fried Liver Attack.

Bs"d

It was a slightly modified Fried Liver.

> > In stead I played d4.
> > This move I learned from Bobby Fischer, who said that that makes the Fried Liver attack much stronger.
> He certainly didn't say that, since 6. d4 has nothing to do with the
> Fried Liver Attack.

OK, show me the official definition of the Fried Liver attack.

> Moreover 6. d4 was a well-known move well before
> Fischer's time, and was thought to be a much better alternative than the
> Fried Liver Attack.
>
> Is it still thought to be better? I don't know. I haven't kept up with
> the theory.

I get a lot more victims with it. Lichess calls it the Lollie attack. But I don't like that name, so I stick with the modified Fried Liver.

Here you have a few Fried Livers, one with Fischer, and they all have 6.d4.

https://tinyurl.com/Fried-liver

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:26 UTC

On 4/7/2021 8:18 AM, Eli Kesef wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:07:41 PM UTC+3, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On 4/6/2021 11:22 AM, Eli Kesef wrote:
>> > Bs"d
>> >
>> > In this game against an 1850: https://lichess.org/qL0IEXU172oX I myself tried a Fried Liver against the enemy.
>> You did not.
>> > Everything went fine, except on move 6, when I could smack in on f7, and sacrifice my horse there and draw the enemy king to the midst of the
>> > board, I just didn't do it.
>> 6. Nxf7 is the move that characterizes the Fried Liver Attack. Since you
>> didn't play that move, it was *not* a Fried Liver Attack.
>
> Bs"d
>
> It was a slightly modified Fried Liver.
>
>> > In stead I played d4.
>> > This move I learned from Bobby Fischer, who said that that makes the Fried Liver attack much stronger.
>> He certainly didn't say that, since 6. d4 has nothing to do with the
>> Fried Liver Attack.
>
> OK, show me the official definition of the Fried Liver attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Knights_Defense,_Fried_Liver_Attack

--
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On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 2:45:06 PM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
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> And here yet another Boden-Kieseritzky gambit in which the enemy came out of the opening a bishop short: https://lichess.org/JKcwR6lEbnmX
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> https://tinyurl.com/gloeiogen

Bs"d

Like I said before: Things come in clusters. Which things? All things. Here yet another Koltanowsky gambit in which the enemy resigned right away after losing the bishop: https://lichess.org/IiSmLmOGIdb1

By the way, that post above here, where I speak about a Boden-Kieseritzky gambit, that should also have been a Koltanowski gambit.

https://tinyurl.com/killtrap

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Bs"d

So I bought myself a second hand chess book for next to nothing; "Teach Yourself Chess" by IM Bill Hartston, 2 times winner of the British Championship, and the first one to stack the pieces from an entire chess set on top of a single white castle.

Parts of the book looks like rats have been eating it, but everything is still very well readable, thank God.

It's a very nice book, you can teach yourself chess with it, and it has about everything, openings, endgames, tactics, history of chess, illustrative games, very nice book for a beginner or club player: https://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Chess-McGraw-Hill/dp/0844230502

So in that book I found an interesting gambit in the Italian opening, (aka giuoco piano) where you gambiteer not one, but two pawns. And it has a wonderful trap in it.
So I spent my free Saturday learning that trap with all its variations by heart, and after the sun had set, I cranked up my computer, and gave it a shot on Lichess. It took a few games, but lo and behold, after I played the bishop opening, my favorite, some opponent turned it into the Italian opening. So I offered him a pawn, and he took it. I offered him a second pawn, and he took it. Then I offered him a castle, but he didn't take it. Didn't make a difference though, because it was too late already. He fought hard, but to no avail; he came out of the opening with a bishop missing: https://lichess.org/Ig4sFrqZMgJ0
And from there it was all downhill, I exchanged everything, got myself an exchange on top of it, got into and endgame with a castle more, and the enemy surrendered unconditionally.

Great trap! I want to try that more often.

https://tinyurl.com/trappish

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 by: Eli Kesef - Sat, 15 May 2021 23:57 UTC

Bs"d

Here I played an improved Fried Liver, aka "lolli attack". In stead of at the first opportunity smacking your horse in on f7, you first play e4, which, according to Bobby Fisher, makes the attack much stronger.

And so I did. Now the point is, that the pawn on e4 can easily be taken by an enemy horse. But, unfortunately for the enemy, if he does that, he is going to lose a horse. In this game: https://lichess.org/4BwedXJq1ftW the enemy indeed took the horse, which meant that he came out of the opening with a horse missing. From there it was easy sailing, no need for me to sacrifice my own horse on f7, just quiet play with a horse more and victory was mine.

That's what you get when you refuse to learn opening traps.

Just saying.

If you refuse to learn opening traps and you're up against and opponent armed with a big bag of opening traps, then you're walking through a minefield..

https://tinyurl.com/mind-ur-step

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On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 2:57:54 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:

> And so I did. Now the point is, that the pawn on e4 can easily be taken by an enemy horse.

Bs"d

Sorry about that, that must be "the pawn on D4 can easily be taken..."

https://tinyurl.com/miss-fly-hall

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Bs"d

Just played another game against Sidonio, 1800+. He played a Caro-Kann against me, so I played my trap against him, and it didn't really go all the way according to the book. I was wondering why. Then I saw that this was the 13th game I was playing against Sidionio. After the game was over, I saw that he was a fanatic Caro-Kann player, and I saw that I slaughtered him three times with my Caro-Kann trap.
For the connoisseur, here are the games:

https://lichess.org/xPsP3V6i#25
https://lichess.org/5LGZwtc6#25
https://lichess.org/ZkrXST2r#23

So after biting the dust three times against the same opening trap, he got the hang of it, and didn't fall for it anymore.

Still he came out of the opening with a lousy position, and I managed to take him down in 16 moves: https://lichess.org/lSNNhmba#35

All is well that ends well.

https://tinyurl.com/CaKa-trap

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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:06:36 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
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> Just played another game against Sidonio, 1800+. He played a Caro-Kann against me, so I played my trap against him, and it didn't really go all the way according to the book. I was wondering why. Then I saw that this was the 13th game I was playing against Sidionio. After the game was over, I saw that he was a fanatic Caro-Kann player, and I saw that I slaughtered him three times with my Caro-Kann trap.
> For the connoisseur, here are the games:
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> https://lichess.org/xPsP3V6i#25
> https://lichess.org/5LGZwtc6#25
> https://lichess.org/ZkrXST2r#23
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> So after biting the dust three times against the same opening trap, he got the hang of it, and didn't fall for it anymore.
>
> Still he came out of the opening with a lousy position, and I managed to take him down in 16 moves: https://lichess.org/lSNNhmba#35
>
> All is well that ends well.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/CaKa-trap

Bs"d

Looks like I have no other choice then learning a whole new trap in the Caro-Kann, just in case I'm going to run into Sidionio again.

A man's got to do what a man's got to do.

Fortunately there are plenty of other traps in the Caro.

https://tinyurl.com/CaroK-trap

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 by: Eli Kesef - Sat, 5 Jun 2021 21:14 UTC

Bs"d

So today on my rest day I played some over the board games. In six games I only blundered once, or that is the most that I and my opponent noticed. That resulted in a sudden mate, but that was the only one of 6 games that I lost, so it was 5-1 for me.
That's the way I like it.

I played the same guy I played a few weeks ago, a serious chess player, active on Lichess, and he practices tactics on Chess.com.
He doesn't do opening traps, because, he says, you end up in bad positions when the opponent doesn't fall for your traps.

Fortunately, I was able to impress upon him the importance of studying opening traps, even when you don't want to play them yourself. Then you still need the knowledge in order to prevent yourself from falling into the traps of the opponent.

i drove that point home in the first game, where I was black. He started to play an Italian opening, and I used the opportunity to release upon him a Blackburn-Shilling trap.
He swallowed the poisoned pawn, hook, line, and sinker.
I did my thing, my thing being queen g5, after which he forked my queen and castle by smacking his horse in on f7.
And that is the worst line for the opponent there is.
It resulted in the totally unexpected smothered mate on move 7.

With a stunned expression on his face he said: “That was fast….”

Chess is a cruel game. https://tinyurl.com/Nigel-kill

It was an over the board game, but here is an old Lichess game which went exactly the same: https://lichess.org/oGkbGfME/black#14

Opening traps are killers

https://tinyurl.com/Blackburn-trap

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 by: Eli Kesef - Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:18 UTC

Bs"d

This is the story of a trap. Not of a successfully executed trap, but of a failed trap. Stories of successful traps you have gotten enough already, so now a failed trap.

The fishing pole trap is a great trap, and somebody who doesn't know it is bound to fall for it. BUT, you gotta know when it works, and especially, when it doesn't.
I learned that the hard way. In this game https://lichess.org/Fth74M6D9kKj my opponent learned the hard way that sometimes, it just doesn't work. He sacrificed a horse, after that, totally unnecessary a castle, then tried to mate me, and found out it was just not going to happen.
Bummer.
And that was the end. Well, the beginning of the end, because he decided to play on even when he was 17 points down, right unto the mate.
No problem. I like playing when I'm 17 points ahead.
All in all; for the opponent a very educational game, and for me a very enjoyable one.

HalleluJah!!

https://tinyurl.com/fishy-pole

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Bs”d

Since I realize that a failed trap is a tad depressing, I hereby present you guys with a successful trap. Mind you, not 100% successful, that would have been a mate in 5, but successful enough to do the enemy a lot of damage in the opening and make him throw in the towel on move 20: https://lichess.org/HokgsEEoGFs6

The mate in 5 in a serious game like this, is unfortunately extremely rare. That happens once a year or less. I searched in my nick Tallybloodyho, and among almost 4000 games, I found three instances of that mate in 5, one coming from and Englund gambit, like the above game, and two from a Budapest gambit.
Here is one: https://lichess.org/OUT2d440/black So yes, they are rare jewels, but they do happen occasionally. So with the above game, I was hoping for the enemy to take my queen. When he was thinking really long I even texted him: “Just take the queen and get it over with” but alas, it was not to be.
Not that it made a difference in the end result, but the five mover would have been much more spectacular.
Well, not everyday is party time, I guess.

https://tinyurl.com/trappish

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And again I came very close to the mate in 5, but, unfortunately, the enemy was not sleeping behind the board, he saw the mate in one, and prevented it, but still he incurred a lot of damage, lost his castle in the corner for a horse, and that was the beginning of the end: https://lichess.org/QvSEiQpb8ici

https://tinyurl.com/trappy-gambit

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The Stafford gambit caused the enemy to have to part with an exchange in the opening: https://lichess.org/rORiXOjaJMW6 And then you exchange all the pieces, and with a comfortable advantage in the endgame you win.

https://tinyurl.com/killtrap

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I had a few takers for a Fishing Pole. Here an 1857 had never before heard of the concept of the Fishing Pole: https://lichess.org/3WJYV2beW6m4
I was happy to be able to educate him on this interesting subject.

And here another one who choked on a horse I offered him: https://lichess.org/3WJYV2beW6m4

The Fishing Pole is still going strong after all these years!

https://tinyurl.com/fishy-pole

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Bs"d

And here some Scandinavian defense players. The first one who played d5 after my e4 was RAYFRAN48, and 1800+ player. Of course I answered with a trappy gambit, namely the Tennison gambit. That costed him a full bishop and the enemy resigned on move 20.

The next in line for a taste of the good old Tennison gambit was a Scandinavian defense player going by the name of pw150: https://lichess.org/kCmR4xbuatD1 Also he bit of more than he could chew with the Tennison gambit, and also he had to part with a bishop. A horse fork on move 22 made him throw in the towel.

After that came Hiharucola, 1862: https://lichess.org/wGCnty4LPqiJ Also he had to part with a bishop on move 7, after which he resigned.
A nice miniature.

https://tinyurl.com/tonstaun

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Here https://lichess.org/K0yJFtE0ql9o an 1812 had to part with a bishop on move 5 in that nasty Englund gambit.

The rest was exchanging to a won endgame, and that was that.

https://tinyurl.com/lost-gambit

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On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 8:57:25 PM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
>
> And here some Scandinavian defense players. The first one who played d5 after my e4 was RAYFRAN48, and 1800+ player. Of course I answered with a trappy gambit, namely the Tennison gambit. That costed him a full bishop and the enemy resigned on move 20.

Bs"d

Here is the game of Rayfran48: https://lichess.org/UKiZhlpsIVTH played a week ago.

In the thread "Miniatures are the best" I just now posted another Tennison gambit, in which the enemy lost an exchange in the opening, and resigned on move 13. That's 4 successful Tennison gambit traps in one week.

https://tinyurl.com/two-plus-two

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 by: Ken Blake - Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:19 UTC

On 8/22/2021 11:04 PM, Eli Kesef wrote:
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 3:45:05 PM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
>> Bs"d
>>
>> After a long dry spell I was able to bag a 1940 with a Stafford gambit. In 11 moves. LOL!!
>>
>> https://lichess.org/8rkGBKB1SxCb
>>
>> Opening traps are terrible things when you're on the wrong side of 'm.
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/gloeiogen
>
> Bs"d
>
> In the above variation the Stafford gambit goes like this: First you give the enemy a pawn, then you give him a horse, and then you slaughter him.

The Greeks were the only ones to give the enemy a horse.

--
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On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 7:19:41 PM UTC+3, Ken Blake wrote:
> On 8/22/2021 11:04 PM, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 3:45:05 PM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> >> Bs"d
> >>
> >> After a long dry spell I was able to bag a 1940 with a Stafford gambit. In 11 moves. LOL!!
> >>
> >> https://lichess.org/8rkGBKB1SxCb
> >>
> >> Opening traps are terrible things when you're on the wrong side of 'm.
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/gloeiogen
> >
> > Bs"d
> >
> > In the above variation the Stafford gambit goes like this: First you give the enemy a pawn, then you give him a horse, and then you slaughter him.
> The Greeks were the only ones to give the enemy a horse.

Bs"d

And a great job they did with it.

So great that I decided to emulate their gesture.

The enemy choked on horse beef.

HalleluJah!!

This was a combination of the Stafford gambit and the fishing pole trap.

https://tinyurl.com/fish-pole-trap

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Bs"d

In this game: https://lichess.org/uH0FmmIA68QX I offered the enemy a pawn.

The enemy who was rated 1800, accepted the pawn, and choked on it. He had to part in the opening with an exchange and two pawns, so that instead me being a pawn down I was a pawn up, and I had an extra exchange on top of it.

When the enemy after that also lost a horse, he surrendered unconditionally. On move 15.

The Koltanowski gambit hit again!

https://tinyurl.com/Q-trap-thank-U

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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:06:36 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> Bs"d
>
> Just played another game against Sidonio, 1800+. He played a Caro-Kann against me, so I played my trap against him, and it didn't really go all the way according to the book. I was wondering why. Then I saw that this was the 13th game I was playing against Sidionio. After the game was over, I saw that he was a fanatic Caro-Kann player, and I saw that I slaughtered him three times with my Caro-Kann trap.
> For the connoisseur, here are the games:
>
> https://lichess.org/xPsP3V6i#25
> https://lichess.org/5LGZwtc6#25
> https://lichess.org/ZkrXST2r#23
>
> So after biting the dust three times against the same opening trap, he got the hang of it, and didn't fall for it anymore.
>
> Still he came out of the opening with a lousy position, and I managed to take him down in 16 moves: https://lichess.org/lSNNhmba#35
>
> All is well that ends well.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/CaKa-trap

Bs"d

It is the time of the year for Caro-Kann traps. First I slaughtered an innocent CK player who followed the book line of the trap, and he surrendered on move 12, mate on move 13 was unavoidable: https://lichess.org/ArmyoNvlvY5G

Then I was paired again with Sidionio, the hard-core Caro-Kann player, who I slaughtered already three times with that CK-trap. I only later saw that is was Sidonio, so I started my trap like usual, and on the critical point he started to deviate, he learned his lesson already three times, and had no intention to go down that same road to chess hell again. But, alas, it was in vain. He deviated in wrong way, and had to part with two pawns and a castle in the opening, and before I could relieve him of his castle, he resigned. On move 12: https://lichess.org/KMKE2xYk1CSZ

Opening traps are horrible things.

Maybe they should be forbidden?

https://tinyurl.com/C-K-anti-tank

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Subject: Re: Opening traps are killers
From: wthyde1...@gmail.com (William Hyde)
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 by: William Hyde - Thu, 9 Sep 2021 20:24 UTC

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:06:36 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > Bs"d
> >
> > Just played another game against Sidonio, 1800+. He played a Caro-Kann against me, so I played my trap against him, and it didn't really go all the way according to the book. I was wondering why. Then I saw that this was the 13th game I was playing against Sidionio. After the game was over, I saw that he was a fanatic Caro-Kann player, and I saw that I slaughtered him three times with my Caro-Kann trap.
> > For the connoisseur, here are the games:
> >
> > https://lichess.org/xPsP3V6i#25
> > https://lichess.org/5LGZwtc6#25
> > https://lichess.org/ZkrXST2r#23
> >
> > So after biting the dust three times against the same opening trap, he got the hang of it, and didn't fall for it anymore.
> >
> > Still he came out of the opening with a lousy position, and I managed to take him down in 16 moves: https://lichess.org/lSNNhmba#35
> >
> > All is well that ends well.
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/CaKa-trap
> Bs"d
>
> It is the time of the year for Caro-Kann traps. First I slaughtered an innocent CK player who followed the book line of the trap, and he surrendered on move 12, mate on move 13 was unavoidable: https://lichess.org/ArmyoNvlvY5G
>
> Then I was paired again with Sidionio, the hard-core Caro-Kann player, who I slaughtered already three times with that CK-trap. I only later saw that is was Sidonio, so I started my trap like usual, and on the critical point he started to deviate, he learned his lesson already three times, and had no intention to go down that same road to chess hell again. But, alas, it was in vain. He deviated in wrong way, and had to part with two pawns and a castle in the opening, and before I could relieve him of his castle, he resigned. On move 12: https://lichess.org/KMKE2xYk1CSZ

Slow learner. He's lost by move four, and apparently you have done this to him before.

1800 rated? Please, at the club he'd have been 1100 at best.
>
> Opening traps are horrible things.

The first time you surprised him with it. But the other three times?

You can't force people to play well. Or even adequately.

William Hyde

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 by: Eli Kesef - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 14:27 UTC

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 11:24:12 PM UTC+3, William Hyde wrote:
> On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:06:36 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:
> > > Bs"d
> > >
> > > Just played another game against Sidonio, 1800+. He played a Caro-Kann against me, so I played my trap against him, and it didn't really go all the way according to the book. I was wondering why. Then I saw that this was the 13th game I was playing against Sidionio. After the game was over, I saw that he was a fanatic Caro-Kann player, and I saw that I slaughtered him three times with my Caro-Kann trap.
> > > For the connoisseur, here are the games:
> > >
> > > https://lichess.org/xPsP3V6i#25
> > > https://lichess.org/5LGZwtc6#25
> > > https://lichess.org/ZkrXST2r#23
> > >
> > > So after biting the dust three times against the same opening trap, he got the hang of it, and didn't fall for it anymore.
> > >
> > > Still he came out of the opening with a lousy position, and I managed to take him down in 16 moves: https://lichess.org/lSNNhmba#35
> > >
> > > All is well that ends well.
> > >
> > > https://tinyurl.com/CaKa-trap
> > Bs"d
> >
> > It is the time of the year for Caro-Kann traps. First I slaughtered an innocent CK player who followed the book line of the trap, and he surrendered on move 12, mate on move 13 was unavoidable: https://lichess.org/ArmyoNvlvY5G
> >
> > Then I was paired again with Sidionio, the hard-core Caro-Kann player, who I slaughtered already three times with that CK-trap. I only later saw that is was Sidonio, so I started my trap like usual, and on the critical point he started to deviate, he learned his lesson already three times, and had no intention to go down that same road to chess hell again. But, alas, it was in vain. He deviated in wrong way, and had to part with two pawns and a castle in the opening, and before I could relieve him of his castle, he resigned. On move 12: https://lichess.org/KMKE2xYk1CSZ
> Slow learner. He's lost by move four, and apparently you have done this to him before.
>
> 1800 rated? Please, at the club he'd have been 1100 at best.
> >
> > Opening traps are horrible things.
> The first time you surprised him with it. But the other three times?
>
> You can't force people to play well. Or even adequately.

Bs"d

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force it to drink.

If I can drown them time and again in the same pool it's OK with me.

I guess at one point he should learn....

https://tinyurl.com/CaKa-rap

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