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* Re: Republiscums/QAnon: "a dangerous antidemocratic movementDavid Hartung
`- Re: Republiscums/QAnon: "a dangerous antidemocratic movementRudy Canoza

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Subject: Re: Republiscums/QAnon: "a dangerous antidemocratic movement
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 by: David Hartung - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 03:59 UTC

On 9/18/22 10:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 9/18/2022 8:00 AM, #ReamMeUpTheAssSnotty, brain-damaged fucktard who
> rode his scooter into a tree while not wearing a helmet, stupidly bawled
> and lied:
>
>> On 9/17/22 9:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 9/17/22 20:01, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> Fear of Fascism
>>>>
>>>> We’re hesitant to use the word, and for good reason.
>>>>
>>>> By Tom Nichols
>>>>
>>>> I’ve long resisted using the word fascism to describe Donald Trump
>>>> and his Republican followers, but we have to overcome our
>>>> reluctance to use strong language and admit that America is now
>>>> beset by a dangerous antidemocratic movement masquerading as a
>>>> party.
>>>>
>>>> A Pre-fascist Interlude
>>>>
>>>> President Joe Biden has been getting a lot of static for referring
>>>> to the ideology of Donald Trump and his followers as
>>>> “semi-fascism.” It isn’t surprising that right-wing pundits, such
>>>> as the Fox News contributor Mollie Hemingway, are practically
>>>> having to take out loans to buy extra strings of pearls to clutch.
>>>> But even John Avlon at CNN and Matt Lewis at The Daily Beast are
>>>> trying to warn Biden off from insulting millions of voters.
>>>>
>>>> It’s risky politics for the president to use words like
>>>> semi-fascism, much as it was a needless fumble back in 2016 for
>>>> Hillary Clinton to call people “deplorables.” For the rest of us,
>>>> even to consider the word fascism feels like failure. It is a
>>>> Rubicon we fear to cross, because it makes our fellow Americans
>>>> into our civic enemies and implies that there is no road back for
>>>> them, or for us.
>>>>
>>>> We cannot, however, let our understandable fear of words such as
>>>> fascism scare us out of talking about the reality staring us in the
>>>>  face. The GOP itself might not meet the full definition of a
>>>> “fascist” party—not yet, anyway—but it’s not a normal party, and
>>>> its base is not an ordinary political movement. It is, instead, a
>>>> melding of the remnants of a once-great party with an
>>>> authoritarian, violent, seditionist personality cult bent on
>>>> capturing and exercising power solely to benefit its own members
>>>> and punish its imagined enemies among other Americans.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/08/fear-of-fascism/671289/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 100% spot-on correct.  The Republiscums/QAnon are *all but* fascist
>>>> at this point.
>>>
>>
>> Which means what,
>
> Just what it says.  It means they are anti-American shitbags.
>
>>
>>
>>> So you say,
>
> And have always supported.
>
>>>
>>> What exactly is it about Trump that is authoritarian?
>
> Trying to steal a second term in office after *losing* the election.
> Calling the press the "enemy of the people."  Starting an insurrection.
> Having his blackshirt followers beat up people at his rallies.  Making
> love to other dictators in the world.  Tear gassing peaceful protesters
> in Lafayette Park.

As I thought.

There *was* an attempt to steal a second term.

The press are *not* enemies of the people.

There *was* an insurrection.

There *are* "blackshirt" Trump followers.

Trump *did* tear gas peaceful protestors.

Put another way, Trump is an authoritarian and a fascist.

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 by: Rudy Canoza - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 04:01 UTC

On 9/20/2022 8:59 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 9/18/22 10:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/18/2022 8:00 AM, #ReamMeUpTheAssSnotty, brain-damaged fucktard who rode
>> his scooter into a tree while not wearing a helmet, stupidly bawled and lied:
>>
>>> On 9/17/22 9:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 9/17/22 20:01, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> Fear of Fascism
>>>>>
>>>>> We’re hesitant to use the word, and for good reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> By Tom Nichols
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve long resisted using the word fascism to describe Donald Trump
>>>>> and his Republican followers, but we have to overcome our
>>>>> reluctance to use strong language and admit that America is now
>>>>> beset by a dangerous antidemocratic movement masquerading as a
>>>>> party.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Pre-fascist Interlude
>>>>>
>>>>> President Joe Biden has been getting a lot of static for referring
>>>>> to the ideology of Donald Trump and his followers as
>>>>> “semi-fascism.” It isn’t surprising that right-wing pundits, such
>>>>> as the Fox News contributor Mollie Hemingway, are practically
>>>>> having to take out loans to buy extra strings of pearls to clutch.
>>>>> But even John Avlon at CNN and Matt Lewis at The Daily Beast are
>>>>> trying to warn Biden off from insulting millions of voters.
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s risky politics for the president to use words like
>>>>> semi-fascism, much as it was a needless fumble back in 2016 for
>>>>> Hillary Clinton to call people “deplorables.” For the rest of us,
>>>>> even to consider the word fascism feels like failure. It is a
>>>>> Rubicon we fear to cross, because it makes our fellow Americans
>>>>> into our civic enemies and implies that there is no road back for
>>>>> them, or for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> We cannot, however, let our understandable fear of words such as fascism
>>>>> scare us out of talking about the reality staring us in the
>>>>>  face. The GOP itself might not meet the full definition of a
>>>>> “fascist” party—not yet, anyway—but it’s not a normal party, and
>>>>> its base is not an ordinary political movement. It is, instead, a
>>>>> melding of the remnants of a once-great party with an
>>>>> authoritarian, violent, seditionist personality cult bent on
>>>>> capturing and exercising power solely to benefit its own members
>>>>> and punish its imagined enemies among other Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/08/fear-of-fascism/671289/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 100% spot-on correct.  The Republiscums/QAnon are *all but* fascist
>>>>> at this point.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which means what,
>>
>> Just what it says.  It means they are anti-American shitbags.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> So you say,
>>
>> And have always supported.
>>
>>>>
>>>> What exactly is it about Trump that is authoritarian?
>>
>> Trying to steal a second term in office after *losing* the election. Calling
>> the press the "enemy of the people."  Starting an insurrection. Having his
>> blackshirt followers beat up people at his rallies.  Making love to other
>> dictators in the world.  Tear gassing peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park.
>
> As I thought.
>
> There *was* an attempt to steal a second term.
>
> The press are *not* enemies of the people.
>
> There *was* an insurrection.
>
> There *are* "blackshirt" Trump followers.
>
> Trump *did* tear gas peaceful protestors.
>
> Put another way, Trump is an authoritarian and a fascist.
>

Yes, exactly right.

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