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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:14 UTC

On 4/12/2022 9:11 PM, Karen wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 8:49:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 5:52 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 4/12/22 05:35, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>>>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>>>>> to score political point?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication
>>>> proven not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>>>>
>>>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that
>>>> cannot see truth over your idol.
>>>>
>>>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
>>>
>>> YOU LYING BASTARD!  E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N double blinded
>>> studies and counting prove it.  THERE IS NOT DOUBT
>>> IT WORKS.
>>>
>>> WHERE IS YOUR MORTALITY?  Politics all that matter
>>> to you?  Screw human life??
>>>
>>> Make 1984 FICTION AGAIN
>>> LGB
>>
>> Your god you worship suggested bleach injections.  I'd try that.
>
>
> We inject bleach into our municipal water systems.
>
> And injecting bleach is not that different from injecting chemotherapy
> chemicals.
>
> It's a moot point though.  If bleach actually worked, the vaccine
> company's government puppets would block it.

Do you have proof of that? No, just in your mind. A useless comment.

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 by: Karen - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:48 UTC

On 4/12/2022 10:14:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 9:11 PM, Karen wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 8:49:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 5:52 PM, T wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/22 05:35, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
>>>>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
>>>>>> to score political point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot see truth over your idol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
>>>>
>>>> YOU LYING BASTARD!  E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N double blinded
>>>> studies and counting prove it.  THERE IS NOT DOUBT
>>>> IT WORKS.
>>>>
>>>> WHERE IS YOUR MORTALITY?  Politics all that matter
>>>> to you?  Screw human life??
>>>>
>>>> Make 1984 FICTION AGAIN
>>>> LGB
>>>
>>> Your god you worship suggested bleach injections.  I'd try that.
>>
>>
>> We inject bleach into our municipal water systems.
>>
>> And injecting bleach is not that different from injecting chemotherapy chemicals.
>>
>> It's a moot point though.  If bleach actually worked, the vaccine company's government puppets would block it.
>
> Do you have proof of that?  No, just in your mind.  A useless comment.

Here's another one you'll like:

If fentanyl was a threat to Phizer's business, the US government would shut down the open border.

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On 4/12/22 17:28, Bob F wrote:
>> I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take
>> them or not so why risk myocarditis?
>>
>> I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
>> other than that, I'm doing fine.
>>
>>
>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>>
>
> But your covid brain fog is clearly evident.
Since when is not following propaganda narratives
"brain fog"?

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 by: Pthirus Pubis - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:09 UTC

On 4/12/2022 8:28:07 PM, Bob F wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 11:59 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 10:36:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>> If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
>>> why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
>>> And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
>>> rates compared to the blue states?   Why do you ignore the fact that
>>> even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
>>> to take credit for creating?
>>
>>
>> I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take them or not so why risk myocarditis?
>>
>> I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
>> other than that, I'm doing fine.
>>
>>
>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>
> But your covid brain fog is clearly evident.
>

The truth is coming out.

FDA and Pfizer Knew COVID Shot Caused Immunosuppression

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/14/covid-shot-caused-immunosuppression.aspx

Now run along and get your 5th booster shot.

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 by: trader_4 - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:51 UTC

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:44:14 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 05:18, Snag wrote:
> > On 4/11/2022 11:34 PM, T wrote:
> >> On 4/11/22 19:13, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 4/11/2022 6:12 PM, T wrote:
> >>>> On 4/11/22 14:20, danny burstein wrote:
> >>>>> In <t3234r$kgm$1...@dont-email.me> T <T...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [snip]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Paxlovid
> >>>>>
> >>>>> damn you're dumb. Paxlovid _is_ readily available
> >>>>> and _routinely_ provided, at least in the more
> >>>>> civilized portions of the US, like, oh, NYC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Damn you don't read. It is the results that
> >>>> are coming out that I was pointing out.
> >>>
> >>> Right, but you had to add in some other comments for your own agenda
> >>> and mention the useless worm medication. Half the post was good
> >>> information, the other half your your nutso right wing narrative.
> >>> Just state the facts.
> >>
> >> Hi Ed,
> >>
> >> I still see you are talking to me.
> >>
> >> "useless worm medication"? I see you are still
> >> swimming in lies. Your are confusing actual
> >> xcience with political science.
> >>
> >> Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized
> >> Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID
> >> Nineteen Study
> >>
> >> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33065103/
> >>
> >> Ivermectin treatment was associated with
> >> lower mortality during treatment of
> >> COVID-19, especially in patients with
> >> severe pulmonary involvement.
> >>
> >>
> >> Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of
> >> Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
> >>
> >> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34375047/
> >>
> >> Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized
> >> controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in
> >> COVID-19 have found large, statistically
> >> significant reductions in mortality, time to
> >> clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance.
> >> Furthermore, results from numerous controlled
> >> prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced
> >> risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular
> >> use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples
> >> of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading
> >> to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity
> >> and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective
> >> in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
> >>
> >> Now, jab or no jab, when you catch Covid, MAKE SUSE you do
> >> no use any therapy Trump touted. It is better for you
> >> to die than have Trump be right about ANYTHING.
> >>
> >> Or you could just take the stuff and lie about it.
> >>
> >> -T
> >
> > You mean like a lot of our congress-critters and other high gov't
> > officials did ? "Cures for me but not for thee."
> That anyone would deny medical treatment to anyone for political
> purposes FRIES ME!
>

Most of us here would agree with that. Problem is that the only
place that's happening is in your mind.

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:48:38 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 05:25, Snag wrote:
> > On 4/11/2022 7:31 PM, T wrote:
> >> On 4/11/22 16:09, Red wrote:
> >>> On 4/11/2022 4:30:18 PM, T wrote:
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> And it is having a lot of success.
> >>>>
> >>>> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
> >>>> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
> >>>> and cause additional deaths as they did with
> >>>> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Paxlovid
> >>>>
> >>>> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
> >>>> hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
> >>>> been given to more than 6,000 patients
> >>>> already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And here is some of the science behind it:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
> >>>>
> >>>> -T
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's great to have safe choices (in red states).
> >>>
> >>> Ivermectin on its way to becoming available without prescription in
> >>> Tennessee
> >>>
> >>> https://www.wsmv.com/2022/04/09/ivermectin-its-way-becoming-available-without-prescription-tennessee/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wonderful news!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I can walk into the farm supply here in Arkansas and buy a tube over
> > the counter ...
> Oh and what American Pravda won't tell you is
> that that tube comes with a nauseant to make
> sure you don't accidentally overdose the
> critter. Too much and they puke.
>
> It is probably best to work with a (competent)
> allopath if using this or any other drug.
> The same drugs are certainly FAR cheaper at the
> farm supply store. See if you can get him to let
> you get the stuff from them.

Why would anyone take ivermectin, which most studies have
shown does not work, which the scientific and medical community
consensus is that it does not work, when there are now available tested,
safe, oral drugs that do work? No vaccine, no Paxlovid, no instead go
find some ivermectin. They should use the horse version, they need
that nauseant protection, they are true morons.

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:52:21 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 05:35, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What kind of sick animal are your that you
> >> would withhold treatments for sick people
> >> to score political point?
> >>
> >
> > What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
> > not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
> >
> > Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
> > see truth over your idol.
> >
> > Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
> YOU LYING BASTARD! E-I-G-H-T-E-E-N double blinded
> studies and counting prove it. THERE IS NOT DOUBT
> IT WORKS.
>
> WHERE IS YOUR MORTALITY? Politics all that matter
> to you? Screw human life??
>
> Make 1984 FICTION AGAIN
> LGB

You're the one that is lying, again. That meta analysis from your own link
says this:

"Data are also now available showing large and statistically significant decreases in the transmission of COVID-19 among human subjects based on data from 3 randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and 5 observational controlled trials (OCTs) with 4 of the 8 (2 of them RCTs) published in peer-reviewed journals.40–46"

Only three of those studies were randomized controlled trials, only two of those
were published in peer reviewed journals and it does not say
that either of those two was double blind. And again, one more time, that meta
study includes the study from Egypt that started the big interest in invermectin,
because it showed extraordinary results. Here from your own source:

"Elgazzar and colleagues45 at Benha University in Egypt randomized 200 health care and household contacts of patients with COVID-19 where the intervention group consisted of 100 patients given a high dose of 0.4 mg/kg on day 1 and a second dose on day 7 in addition to wearing personal protective equipment, whereas the control group of 100 contacts wore personal protective equipment alone. They reported a large and statistically significant reduction in contacts testing positive by Reverse Transcriptase Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) when treated with ivermectin versus controls, 2% versus 10%, P < 0.05."

And then what happened? A UK student found whole sections of that study were
plagiarized from other studies. Further investigation found that the data had problems
too, eg patients allegedly treated with ivermectin that were already dead. The medical
journal then withdrew the study, but not before the damage was already done by it
being used as data for other meta studies, like the one you just cited.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93658

A large Egyptian study of ivermectin for COVID-19 patients has been retracted over concerns of plagiarism and serious problems with their raw data, the publisher confirmed to MedPage Today.

Michele Avissar-Whiting, PhD, editor-in-chief of the preprint server Research Square, said in an emailed statement that the study was withdrawn on July 14 "because we were presented with evidence of both plagiarism and anomalies in the dataset associated with the study, neither of which could reasonably be addressed by the author issuing a revised version of the paper."

And again your own source has this warning posted on that meta study,
right at the top:

"See letter "Ivermectin, A Reanalysis of the Data" in Am J Ther, volume 28 on page e579.
This article has been corrected. See Am J Ther. ; 28(6): e813.
See commentary "Meta-Analyses Do Not Establish Improved Mortality With Ivermectin Use in COVID-19." in Am J Ther, volume 29 on page e87.
An expression of concern has been published for this article. See Am J Ther.. 2022 February 07; : .
This article has been cited by other articles in PMC."

So, in short, it's a total lie that this was 18 double blind studies, there is no
indication there that even any of the 3 randomized control trials were blind.
And what was used includes the withdrawn, discredited study from Egypt
that started the ivermectin craze.

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:57:35 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 06:57, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> > On 4/11/2022 4:30 PM, T wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> And it is having a lot of success.
> >>
> >> And since Trump did not mention it, hopefully the
> >> Leftists conformists will not try to suppress it
> >> and cause additional deaths as they did with
> >> Ivermectin, which is absolutely disgusting.
> >>
> >> Paxlovid
> >>
> >> https://news.sky.com/story/covid-vulnerable-coronavirus-patients-getting-at-home-treatment-which-improves-symptoms-within-hours-12585804
> >>
> >>
> >> Paxlovid was found in trials to cut coronavirus
> >> hospital admissions and deaths by 88% and has
> >> been given to more than 6,000 patients
> >> already - 1,400 in the last seven days alone.
> >>
> >>
> >> And here is some of the science behind it:
> >>
> >> https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ritonavir-boosted-nirmatrelvir--paxlovid-/
> >>
> >>
> >> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Nirmatrelvir#section=2D-Structure
> >>
> >>
> >> There are a lot more hits over at pub med.
> >>
> >> -T
> >
> > Your great revelation about the existence and utility of Paxlovid is way
> > behind the times. Been around, FDA and CDC approved, for months. Your
> > comment on Trump not mentioning it is because it didn't exist when he
> > was in the White House!
> My "great revelation" was the effectiveness numbers
> coming out on it in the UK.
>
> And good news about Trump not mentioning it
> becasue he was not in the white house or the
> Leftist Fascists would be pulling the same
> crap they are pulling on Ivermectin at the
> cost of how many lives?

Do you have any examples of Trump promoting invermectin?
I know he promoted hydroxychloroquine as a "game changer".
I know he talked about using bleach to clean your lungs, turned to
a govt health worker and said "you said you're going to be testing
that too, right"? But I can't think of an instance where he promoted
ivermectin. And if this is a political thing, where anything Trump
did is rejected for political reasons, how do you explain the fact that
most Democrats are vaccinated, while it's Republicans who are the
anti-vaxers? Why are blue states at higher vaccination rates than
red states? Trump claimed credit for developing them.

>
> That anyone would attempt to withhold
> treatments to anyone in trouble for
> political purposed FRIES ME!

Yet another strawman.

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 6:42:18 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 05:14, Snag wrote:
> > On 4/12/2022 6:18 AM, Karen wrote:
> >> On 4/12/2022 4:45:46 AM, micky wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> By Leftist he means people smart enough to not believe trump's lies and
> >>> not dumb enough to use his pseudo medical advice.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> You Cannot Boost Your Way Through COVID
> >>
> >> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
> >>
> >
> > Oh let the silly assholes have their boosters . The rest of us are
> > better off without them anyway .
> Ya, especially now that Covid is preferring those
> with the jabs.

You have any credible support for that ridiculous statement?

But it is far more important to
> them to be members of the Volksgenossen.

Another amazing claim from the guy that's deep, deep into the
cult of Trump.

>
> I shocked a Leftist a couple of months back
> when he said the government and their institutions
> (CDC, etc.) would not lie to us. I told him
> the government lies all the time. He was
> scandalized.

Another amazing claim from the guy that's deep, deep into the
cult of Trump and Trump lies about anything and everything,
most of the time.

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 6:45:29 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/12/22 22:17, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> > On 4/12/2022 10:48:11 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 4/12/2022 1:42 AM, T wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What kind of sick animal are your that you
> >>>> would withhold treatments for sick people
> >>>> to score political point?
> >>>>
> >>> What kind of sick animal are you to suggest using a medication proven
> >>> not to work when they could be getting proper treatment?
> >>>
> >>> Has nothing to do with politics except in your addled brain that cannot
> >>> see truth over your idol.
> >>>
> >>> Listen to medical science not fraud studies and politics.
> >>
> >> Exactly. It's not 2020 anymore, we have safe, effective oral drugs that
> >> work against Covid. It's people like Mr. T that are still killing
> >> people by
> >> promoting ivermectin and similar that don't work. He cherry picks
> >> studies,
> >> only uses the ones that show what he wants, ignores the larger number
> >> that
> >> show ivermectin does not work. Yet he lectures us about "the scientific
> >> method".
> >
> >
> >
> > If we have safe effective oral drugs, why are we putting people at risk
> > of severe injury and/or death with the experimental clot-shots?
> > And remember, the clot-shots don't stop you from spreading, they don't
> > stop you from getting and the dubious claim that it reduces the severity
> > of infection is probably a lie too.
> >
> >
> > Pfizer Tries To Hide 2.4K Full-Time Hires Handling Vax Injuries
> >
> > https://www.oann.com/pfizer-tries-to-hide-2-4k-full-time-hires-handling-vax-injuries/
> It is about politics. Trump has to be wrong, no matter
> how many people are hurt. It is about conformity
> and being members of the Volksgenossen. No care
> whatsoever about human suffering. Just about
> their own power.

Then how do you explain the fact that Democrats have much higher
vaccination rates than Republicans? Why would Democrats get
vaccinated, the vaccines were developed while Trump was in office,
Trump claimed credit for their existence? If you want to talk about
crazy group think, it's you and your psycho bunch. I mean we have
safe, proven oral drugs for Covid now and you're still here promoting
ivermectin.

>
> I'd better shut up for a while or I am going start
> throwing around the bastard word again.

That's the first logical thing you've posted in this whole thread.

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 by: Karen - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:54 UTC

On 4/14/2022 8:34:18 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> Then how do you explain the fact that Democrats have much higher
> vaccination rates than Republicans? Why would Democrats get
> vaccinated, the vaccines were developed while Trump was in office,
> Trump claimed credit for their existence? If you want to talk about
> crazy group think, it's you and your psycho bunch. I mean we have
> safe, proven oral drugs for Covid now and you're still here promoting
> ivermectin.

Under President Trump, the taxpayer-funded clot-shots were available if
you wanted them. Your choice. No mandates.

After the Liar-in-Chief stole the 2020 election, the clot-shots became
mandatory for the serfs (though Congress remained free of mandates.)
Another example of "rules for thee but not for me."

See the difference?

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 by: Karen - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:09 UTC

On 4/14/2022 7:51:12 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:44:14 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
[snip]
>> That anyone would deny medical treatment to anyone for political
>> purposes FRIES ME!
>>
>
> Most of us here would agree with that. Problem is that the only
> place that's happening is in your mind.

Right out of the DNC's Gaslighting manual. Good job there operative_4!

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 by: Jock - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:46 UTC

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:30:23 +1000, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 6:42:18 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
>> On 4/12/22 05:14, Snag wrote:
>> > On 4/12/2022 6:18 AM, Karen wrote:
>> >> On 4/12/2022 4:45:46 AM, micky wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> By Leftist he means people smart enough to not believe trump's lies
>> and
>> >>> not dumb enough to use his pseudo medical advice.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You Cannot Boost Your Way Through COVID
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>> >>
>> >
>> > Oh let the silly assholes have their boosters . The rest of us are
>> > better off without them anyway .
>> Ya, especially now that Covid is preferring those
>> with the jabs.
>
> You have any credible support for that ridiculous statement?

He stupidly uses the stats that shows a higher infection
rate in areas where there is a higher vaccination rate.

He is too stupid to realise that when there is a lot of viirus
around, there is a much bigger incentive to get vaccinated.

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On 4/14/2022 11:09 AM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 8:28:07 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 11:59 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 10:36:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>> If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
>>>> why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
>>>> And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
>>>> rates compared to the blue states?   Why do you ignore the fact that
>>>> even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
>>>> to take credit for creating?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take
>>> them or not so why risk myocarditis?
>>>
>>> I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
>>> other than that, I'm doing fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>>>
>>
>> But your covid brain fog is clearly evident.
>>
>
>
>
> The truth is coming out.
>
> FDA and Pfizer Knew COVID Shot Caused Immunosuppression
>
> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/14/covid-shot-caused-immunosuppression.aspx
>
>
> Now run along and get your 5th booster shot.

Mercola???? LOL!

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 by: trader_4 - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:22 UTC

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 11:55:32 AM UTC-4, Karen wrote:
> On 4/14/2022 8:34:18 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > Then how do you explain the fact that Democrats have much higher
> > vaccination rates than Republicans? Why would Democrats get
> > vaccinated, the vaccines were developed while Trump was in office,
> > Trump claimed credit for their existence? If you want to talk about
> > crazy group think, it's you and your psycho bunch. I mean we have
> > safe, proven oral drugs for Covid now and you're still here promoting
> > ivermectin.
> Under President Trump, the taxpayer-funded clot-shots were available if
> you wanted them. Your choice. No mandates.
>
>
> After the Liar-in-Chief stole the 2020 election, the clot-shots became
> mandatory for the serfs (though Congress remained free of mandates.)
> Another example of "rules for thee but not for me."
>
>
> See the difference?

No, it has nothing to do with the fact that the vaccines are safe and effective,
greatly reduce serious illness, hospitalization and death. If it's just a political
thing, Democrats would not be taking them, because Trump claimed credit for
developing them. And the vaccines are not mandatory for probably 90% of
people anyway.

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 by: trader_4 - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:22 UTC

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-4, Karen wrote:
> On 4/14/2022 7:51:12 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 5:44:14 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> [snip]
> >> That anyone would deny medical treatment to anyone for political
> >> purposes FRIES ME!
> >>
> >
> > Most of us here would agree with that. Problem is that the only
> > place that's happening is in your mind.
> Right out of the DNC's Gaslighting manual. Good job there operative_4!

Who exactly do you claim is being denied medical treatment for Covid?

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 by: T - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 03:53 UTC

On 4/14/22 11:09, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> On 4/12/2022 8:28:07 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 11:59 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 10:36:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>> If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
>>>> why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
>>>> And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
>>>> rates compared to the blue states?   Why do you ignore the fact that
>>>> even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
>>>> to take credit for creating?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take
>>> them or not so why risk myocarditis?
>>>
>>> I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
>>> other than that, I'm doing fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>>>
>>
>> But your covid brain fog is clearly evident.
>>
>
>
>
> The truth is coming out.
>
> FDA and Pfizer Knew COVID Shot Caused Immunosuppression
>
> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/14/covid-shot-caused-immunosuppression.aspx
>
>
> Now run along and get your 5th booster shot.
Did the guy cite any medical studies? I am not
about to give them my eMail address.
From other things I have read, his supposition
probably is right.
Can't wait for the six booster to comes out.
You know, there may not be any liberal left at
the end of all this

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 by: T - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 03:55 UTC

On 4/14/22 22:06, Bob F wrote:
> On 4/14/2022 11:09 AM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>> On 4/12/2022 8:28:07 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2022 11:59 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/2022 10:36:56 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>> If it's all about people refusing anything that Trump had to do with,
>>>>> why are the libs and others that despise Trump mostly vaccinated?
>>>>> And why is it that people in the red states are behind in vaccination
>>>>> rates compared to the blue states?   Why do you ignore the fact that
>>>>> even Trump has finally endorsed the vaccines, the ones that he tried
>>>>> to take credit for creating?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've not taken the clot-shots. Borla still gets paid whether I take
>>>> them or not so why risk myocarditis?
>>>>
>>>> I vaguely remember sneezing once or twice in the last two years but
>>>> other than that, I'm doing fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/12/you-cannot-boost-your-way-through-covid.aspx
>>>>
>>>
>>> But your covid brain fog is clearly evident.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The truth is coming out.
>>
>> FDA and Pfizer Knew COVID Shot Caused Immunosuppression
>>
>> https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/04/14/covid-shot-caused-immunosuppression.aspx
>>
>>
>> Now run along and get your 5th booster shot.
>
> Mercola???? LOL!
Bob???? LOL!
Cite some actual medical studies and drop the ad
hominem attacks.
So far all I have seen from you is things you pull
out of your propaganda narrative collective ass.

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 by: T - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 03:59 UTC

On 4/14/22 08:54, Karen wrote:
> Under President Trump, the taxpayer-funded clot-shots were available if
> you wanted them.  Your choice.  No mandates.
>
>
> After the Liar-in-Chief stole the 2020 election, the clot-shots became
> mandatory for the serfs (though Congress remained free of mandates.)
> Another example of "rules for thee but not for me."
>
>
> See the difference?
And know, the fascists accuse of of worshiping Trump
but fail to mentin how manuyof uys disagree with him on the jab.
I also think Trump made a profound mistake protecting
Big Pharma from liability. But he can be somewhat forgiven
as we did not know the extent of things at the beginning.
Oh Invermetin is "little pharma", so OH NO !!!!

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 by: T - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 03:59 UTC

On 4/12/22 18:11, Karen wrote:
> If bleach actually worked, the vaccine company's government puppets would block it.
>
If dolphin fins worked, it would be the end of dolphins

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 04:21 UTC

On 4/22/2022 11:53 PM, T wrote:

> Can't wait for the six booster to comes out.
> You know, there may not be any liberal left at
> the end of all this

We've been getting shots since the 1918 flu so this may carry on a
hundred years too. Aside from your prejudice, liberals have nothing to
do with the pandemic. Conservatives got sick and died too.

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 by: Bob F - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 05:58 UTC

On 4/22/2022 9:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/22/2022 11:53 PM, T wrote:
>
>> Can't wait for the six booster to comes out.
>> You know, there may not be any liberal left at
>> the end of all this
>
> We've been getting shots since the 1918 flu so this may carry on a
> hundred years too.  Aside from your prejudice, liberals have nothing to
> do with the pandemic.  Conservatives got sick and died too.

Only at about 10 times the rate of thinking people like Democrats.

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 by: T - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 06:12 UTC

On 4/22/22 21:21, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/22/2022 11:53 PM, T wrote:
>
>> Can't wait for the six booster to comes out.
>> You know, there may not be any liberal left at
>> the end of all this
>
> We've been getting shots since the 1918 flu so this may carry on a
> hundred years too.  Aside from your prejudice, liberals have nothing to
> do with the pandemic.  Conservatives got sick and died too.
Did any of your fascist tactics actually help the pandemic?
Here is what you call "prejudice" and the rest of
us call "science"
https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf
You control freaks did nothing to help. But you
ruined a lot of lives.

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 by: T - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 06:13 UTC

On 4/22/22 22:58, Bob F wrote:
> On 4/22/2022 9:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/22/2022 11:53 PM, T wrote:
>>
>>> Can't wait for the six booster to comes out.
>>> You know, there may not be any liberal left at
>>> the end of all this
>>
>> We've been getting shots since the 1918 flu so this may carry on a
>> hundred years too.  Aside from your prejudice, liberals have nothing
>> to do with the pandemic.  Conservatives got sick and died too.
>
> Only at about 10 times the rate of thinking people like Democrats.
"Thinking people" actually think. They do not
blindly follow propaganda narratives.

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 by: Karen - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 00:20 UTC

On 4/23/2022 12:21:07 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/22/2022 11:53 PM, T wrote:
>
>> Can't wait for the six booster to comes out.
>> You know, there may not be any liberal left at
>> the end of all this
>
> We've been getting shots since the 1918 flu so this may carry on a hundred years too.  Aside from your prejudice, liberals have nothing to do with the pandemic.  Conservatives got sick and died too.

Most people didn't die from the Fauci-19 virus, they died from metabolically related comorbidities.

The whole thing was a ruse to make it easier to cheat the 2020 election and make Boorla and friends filthy rich along the way.

And FWIW, the "vaccines" their pushing today ain't your grandpa's vaccines...which while problematic were a lot safer.

I find it quite amusing that the congress critters exempted themselves from the clot-shot mandates. Yet another example of "Rules for thee but not for me".

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