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* Down-Spout extensionSid 03
+- Down-Spout extensionDean Hoffman
+* Down-Spout extensionEd Pawlowski
|+* Down-Spout extensionSid 03
||`* Down-Spout extensionSid 03
|| `* Down-Spout extensiontrader_4
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||  |`- Down-Spout extensionJock
||  `* Down-Spout extensionFrank
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||    +- Down-Spout extensiontrader_4
||    `* Down-Spout extensionJock
||     `* Nym-shifting Trolling Senile PIG from Oz!Sid 03
||      +* Nym-shifting Trolling Senile PIG from Oz!Marilyn Manson
||      |`- Nym-shifting Trolling Senile PIG from Oz!Sid 03
||      +- Nym-shifting Trolling Senile PIG from Oz!trader_4
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||        `- Nym-shifting Trolling Senile PIG from Oz!Bob F
|`* Down-Spout extensionScott Lurndal
| `- Down-Spout extensiontrader_4
`* Down-Spout extensionWade Garrett
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If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?

Thanks
Sid.

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On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 5:59:46 PM UTC-5, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>
> Thanks
> Sid.

The PVC isn't all that expensive. I'd go with the old motto of better safe than sorry.

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Tue, 19 Apr 2022 23:16 UTC

On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>
> Thanks
> Sid.

What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
a seam on top.

If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.

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On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sid.
> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> a seam on top.
>
> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.

Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.

Thanks

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 by: Sid 03 - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:10 UTC

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > > If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sid.
> > What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> > human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> > properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> > a seam on top.
> >
> > If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
>
> Thanks
What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > > > If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sid.
> > > What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> > > human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> > > properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> > > a seam on top.
> > >
> > > If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
> > Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
> > The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
> > I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
> >
> > Thanks
> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?

I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
doesn't settle later.

> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?

Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".

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 by: Sid 03 - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:29 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:22:20 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > > > > If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Sid.
> > > > What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> > > > human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> > > > properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> > > > a seam on top.
> > > >
> > > > If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
> > > Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
> > > The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
> > > I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
> I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
> doesn't settle later.
> > Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?
> Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
> that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
> for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
> mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".

How about something like this:
https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/construction-concrete-blocks/8-x-8-x-16-bond-beam-block/1796259/p-1444441455602-c-5647.htm

Either upside-down or place it underneath and find something to cover it with ?

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 by: Frank - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:30 UTC

On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
>>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sid.
>>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
>>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
>>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
>>>> a seam on top.
>>>>
>>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
>>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
>>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
>>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
>
> I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
> doesn't settle later.
>
>> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?
>
> Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
> that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
> for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
> mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
>

My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
time but might happen.

Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
strong.

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 by: Sid 03 - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:38 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:30:44 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> >>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Sid.
> >>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> >>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> >>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> >>>> a seam on top.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
> >>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
> >>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
> >>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
> >
> > I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
> > doesn't settle later.
> >
> >> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?
> >
> > Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
> > that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
> > for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
> > mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
> >
> My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
> time but might happen.
>
> Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
> downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
> gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
> strong.
I am seeing prices of $45 for a 10' section of 4" PVC.
If I went with 4 of these 'Bond Beam Block'(s) for $10 total that could solve my problem.
with PVC I would have to mess with a cutting and gluing a bunch of elbows ?

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 by: Frank - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:06 UTC

On 4/20/2022 8:38 AM, Sid 03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:30:44 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
>>>>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Sid.
>>>>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
>>>>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
>>>>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
>>>>>> a seam on top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
>>>>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
>>>>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
>>>>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
>>>
>>> I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
>>> doesn't settle later.
>>>
>>>> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?
>>>
>>> Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
>>> that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
>>> for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
>>> mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
>>>
>> My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
>> time but might happen.
>>
>> Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
>> downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
>> gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
>> strong.
> I am seeing prices of $45 for a 10' section of 4" PVC.
> If I went with 4 of these 'Bond Beam Block'(s) for $10 total that could solve my problem.
> with PVC I would have to mess with a cutting and gluing a bunch of elbows ?

I just googled PVC and it is $18.93 at Lowes for 10'. Aluminum would be
$6 cheaper. The blocks you show do look good and I worry less about
load bearing than potential corrosion. Working with PVC is easy.

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Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> writes:
>On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sid.
>
>What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
>human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
>properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
>a seam on top.

Be careful with terminology; I suspect the OP was referring to perforated
drainage pipe rather than corrugated culvert pipe. While the latter is
designed to support great weight, the former should be sufficient for a
walkway covered with pavers.

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:38:43 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:30:44 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> > On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
> > >>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > >>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>> Sid.
> > >>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> > >>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> > >>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> > >>>> a seam on top.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
> > >>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
> > >>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
> > >>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
> > >
> > > I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
> > > doesn't settle later.
> > >
> > >> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?
> > >
> > > Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
> > > that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
> > > for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
> > > mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
> > >
> > My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
> > time but might happen.
> >
> > Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
> > downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
> > gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
> > strong.
> I am seeing prices of $45 for a 10' section of 4" PVC.
> If I went with 4 of these 'Bond Beam Block'(s) for $10 total that could solve my problem.
> with PVC I would have to mess with a cutting and gluing a bunch of elbows ?

What elbows? I thought it just had to go under a paver sidewalk.

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:24:05 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> writes:
> >On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> >> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Sid.
> >
> >What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> >human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> >properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> >a seam on top.
> Be careful with terminology; I suspect the OP was referring to perforated
> drainage pipe rather than corrugated culvert pipe. While the latter is
> designed to support great weight, the former should be sufficient for a
> walkway covered with pavers.

He said corrugated pipe, that's not perforated drainage pipe.

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 9:06:54 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 4/20/2022 8:38 AM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:30:44 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> >> On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> >>>>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> Sid.
> >>>>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the occasional
> >>>>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
> >>>>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not have
> >>>>>> a seam on top.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the pvc.
> >>>>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
> >>>>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
> >>>>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then a long paver across the top ?
> >>>
> >>> I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
> >>> doesn't settle later.
> >>>
> >>>> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that be bad ?
> >>>
> >>> Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated so
> >>> that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
> >>> for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can otherwise
> >>> mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
> >>>
> >> My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
> >> time but might happen.
> >>
> >> Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
> >> downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
> >> gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
> >> strong.
> > I am seeing prices of $45 for a 10' section of 4" PVC.
> > If I went with 4 of these 'Bond Beam Block'(s) for $10 total that could solve my problem.
> > with PVC I would have to mess with a cutting and gluing a bunch of elbows ?
> I just googled PVC and it is $18.93 at Lowes for 10'. Aluminum would be
> $6 cheaper. The blocks you show do look good and I worry less about
> load bearing than potential corrosion. Working with PVC is easy.

I've seen shorter sections of PVC at these places too. Not sure they have them
in the larger diameter sizes, but maybe.

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On 4/20/2022 9:06 AM, Frank wrote:
> On 4/20/2022 8:38 AM, Sid 03 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:30:44 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
>>>>>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a
>>>>>>>> walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just
>>>>>>>> run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run
>>>>>>>> PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Sid.
>>>>>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the
>>>>>>> occasional
>>>>>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
>>>>>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a seam on top.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the
>>>>>>> pvc.
>>>>>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
>>>>>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like
>>>>>> look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
>>>>>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to
>>>>>> the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and
>>>>> then a long paver across the top ?
>>>>
>>>> I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
>>>> doesn't settle later.
>>>>
>>>>> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would
>>>>> that be bad ?
>>>>
>>>> Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4"
>>>> corrugated so
>>>> that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe
>>>> goes
>>>> for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can
>>>> otherwise
>>>> mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
>>>>
>>> My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
>>> time but might happen.
>>>
>>> Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
>>> downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
>>> gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
>>> strong.
>> I am seeing prices of $45 for a 10' section of 4" PVC.
>> If I went with 4 of these 'Bond Beam Block'(s) for $10 total that
>> could solve my problem.
>> with PVC I would have to mess with a cutting and gluing a bunch of
>> elbows ?
>
> I just googled PVC and it is $18.93 at Lowes for 10'. Aluminum would be
> $6 cheaper.  The blocks you show do look good and I worry less about
> load bearing than potential corrosion. Working with PVC is easy.

Thought I would post a picture of mine:

https://imgur.com/a/jqljfZd

My newer downspouts are bigger and installer made connection to my old PVC

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On 4/19/22 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>
> Thanks
> Sid.

I've used corrugated pipe buried a few inches deep in walking traffic
areas for several downspouts, The only problem I've had is the covering
soil eroding/washing away over time and exposing the top of the pipe.

--
If I do a job in 30 minutes, it's because I spent 10 years learning how
to do that in 30 minutes. You owe me for the years, not the minutes.
- Elon Musk

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:33:18 AM UTC-5, Wade Garrett wrote:
> On 4/19/22 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under the walk to keep it from crushing ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sid.
> I've used corrugated pipe buried a few inches deep in walking traffic
> areas for several downspouts, The only problem I've had is the covering
> soil eroding/washing away over time and exposing the top of the pipe.
>
> --
> If I do a job in 30 minutes, it's because I spent 10 years learning how
> to do that in 30 minutes. You owe me for the years, not the minutes.
> - Elon Musk

I was looking at this stuff: Corrugated Pipes Drain Pipe Solid
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Advanced-Drainage-Systems-4-in-x-50-ft-Corrugated-Pipes-Drain-Pipe-Solid-04510050/203246774

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 by: Jock - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:13 UTC

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:29:15 +1000, Sid 03 <sidwelle@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:22:20 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > > > On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
>> > > > > If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a
>> walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run
>> corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under
>> the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > Sid.
>> > > > What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the
>> occasional
>> > > > human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
>> > > > properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not
>> have
>> > > > a seam on top.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the
>> pvc.
>> > > Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
>> > > The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like
>> look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
>> > > I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to
>> the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and then
>> a long paver across the top ?
>> I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
>> doesn't settle later.
>> > Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would that
>> be bad ?
>> Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4" corrugated
>> so
>> that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe goes
>> for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can
>> otherwise
>> mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
>
> How about something like this:
> https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/construction-concrete-blocks/8-x-8-x-16-bond-beam-block/1796259/p-1444441455602-c-5647.htm
>
> Either upside-down or place it underneath and find something to cover it
> with ?

PVC would be much cheaper.

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 by: Jock - Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:16 UTC

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:38:40 +1000, Sid 03 <sidwelle@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 7:30:44 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/20/2022 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 8:10:58 AM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:05:13 PM UTC-5, Sid 03 wrote:
>> >>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:16:33 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>>> On 4/19/2022 6:59 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
>> >>>>> If I want to install a down-spout extension and run it under a
>> walk made of pavers resting on screenings/paver-base, can I just run
>> corrugated pipe under the walk section or do I need to run PVC under
>> the walk to keep it from crushing ?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>> Sid.
>> >>>> What goes over the walk? If it is just a walk and only the
>> occasional
>> >>>> human it may be OK with the corrugated if the soil along side is
>> >>>> properly packed. I'd run the pipe so the pavers bridge it and not
>> have
>> >>>> a seam on top.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you regularly go across it with your motorcycle, consider the
>> pvc.
>> >>> Traffic: Occasional. (Probably more for looks than function)
>> >>> The pavers are 4x8" and randomly placed to create a 'Tetris' like
>> look. I don't see a way to bridge it.
>> >>> I'll look at how to run PVC for the first 6' and then couple it to
>> the corrugated to go another 30' down to the back of the yard.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >> What if I placed a concrete block on either side of the pipe and
>> then a long paver across the top ?
>> >
>> > I think that would be fine as long as the blocks are tamped down so it
>> > doesn't settle later.
>> >
>> >> Almost makes you want to cover the pipe with sackrete ? Or would
>> that be bad ?
>> >
>> > Buying a piece of PVC or ABS pipe that is larger than the 4"
>> corrugated so
>> > that it can pass through it sounds easier to me. IDK what that pipe
>> goes
>> > for these days though. If they have transition fittings or you can
>> otherwise
>> > mate up solid pipe to the corrugated, then you could use 4:".
>> >
>> My concern would be aluminum corrosion underground. It may take a long
>> time but might happen.
>>
>> Decades ago in the back of my house with new lawn and drainage from
>> downspout downhill, I went directly from downspout to PVC. I got new
>> gutter and downspouts a couple of years ago but the PVC is still going
>> strong.
> I am seeing prices of $45 for a 10' section of 4" PVC.

> If I went with 4 of these 'Bond Beam Block'(s) for $10 total

That's not going to happen.

> that could solve my problem.
> with PVC I would have to mess with a cutting and gluing a bunch of
> elbows ?

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:23:28 AM UTC-5, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 02:16:27 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
> trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:
>
> <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
>
> --
> Richard about senile Rodent:
> "Rod Speed, a bare faced pig and ignorant twat."
> MID: <r5uoe4$1kqo$2...@gioia.aioe.org>

If I run the corrugated pipe across the back yard and terminate it into the ravine at the back of the yard,
Do I need to cover the end of the open pipe with a screen or something to keep small animals from making nest/home in the end of the pipe ?

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On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 10:54:45 PM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> If I run the corrugated pipe across the back yard and terminate it into the ravine at the back of the yard,
> Do I need to cover the end of the open pipe with a screen or something to keep small animals from making nest/home in the end of the pipe ?

Many options available…

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+cover+end+of+drainage+pipe

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On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 10:40:34 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 10:54:45 PM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > If I run the corrugated pipe across the back yard and terminate it into the ravine at the back of the yard,
> > Do I need to cover the end of the open pipe with a screen or something to keep small animals from making nest/home in the end of the pipe ?
> Many options available…
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+cover+end+of+drainage+pipe

I think this is more like what I am looking for, it was one of the videos that came up on your search:
https://youtu.be/hywnU4VM3MI

"Critter Guard" !

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On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 10:54:45 PM UTC-4, sidw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:23:28 AM UTC-5, Peeler wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 02:16:27 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
> > trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:
> >
> > <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
> >
> > --
> > Richard about senile Rodent:
> > "Rod Speed, a bare faced pig and ignorant twat."
> > MID: <r5uoe4$1kqo$2...@gioia.aioe.org>
> If I run the corrugated pipe across the back yard and terminate it into the ravine at the back of the yard,
> Do I need to cover the end of the open pipe with a screen or something to keep small animals from making nest/home in the end of the pipe ?

I've never seen this be a problem, might be if you live somewhere where
it rains infrequently. Anything you put there is going to keep debris in and
require cleaning.

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On 4/22/2022 10:54 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:23:28 AM UTC-5, Peeler wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 02:16:27 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
>> trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:
>>
>> <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
>>
>> --
>> Richard about senile Rodent:
>> "Rod Speed, a bare faced pig and ignorant twat."
>> MID: <r5uoe4$1kqo$2...@gioia.aioe.org>
>
> If I run the corrugated pipe across the back yard and terminate it into the ravine at the back of the yard,
> Do I need to cover the end of the open pipe with a screen or something to keep small animals from making nest/home in the end of the pipe ?

Mine is open and I have never had that problem. There is a ten foot or
so drop and water would probably push anything there out.

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On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 7:41:39 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> On 4/22/2022 10:54 PM, Sid 03 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:23:28 AM UTC-5, Peeler wrote:
> >> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 02:16:27 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
> >> trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:
> >>
> >> <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard about senile Rodent:
> >> "Rod Speed, a bare faced pig and ignorant twat."
> >> MID: <r5uoe4$1kqo$2...@gioia.aioe.org>
> >
> > If I run the corrugated pipe across the back yard and terminate it into the ravine at the back of the yard,
> > Do I need to cover the end of the open pipe with a screen or something to keep small animals from making nest/home in the end of the pipe ?
> Mine is open and I have never had that problem. There is a ten foot or
>

Here are some more examples:

https://www.agridrain.com/shop/c31/external-guards/p96/4-external-rodent-guard/
https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/corrugated-pipe-fittings/rodent-guard/mc90460/p-7720120061300557-c-9568.htm?tid=-7176540453960887753&ipos=1
https://drainageproducts.us/animal-guard-4-black/

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