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Well, that didnt work! On the upside it has stopped leaking, on the downside, it finished its cycle with a pool of water again.

I cant seem to get it to drain by pressing START for over 3 seconds so I cant listen for the pump. But next stop is to do whatever it takes to get that float cover off and see if the microswitch will 'click' under it. THEN I'll worry about the pump having given out.
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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 22 Apr 2022 22:32 UTC

DManzaluni <dmanzaluni@gmail.com> wrote

> Well, that didnt work! On the upside it has stopped leaking, on the
> downside, it finished its cycle with a pool of water again.

> I cant seem to get it to drain by pressing START for over 3 seconds

It is crucial to wait for it to have started the wash phase before that
works.

> so I cant listen for the pump.

You should be able to hear it finish the wash or rinse and then pump the
water out.

> But next stop is to do whatever it takes to get that float cover off and
> see if the microswitch will 'click' under it. THEN I'll worry about the
> pump having given out.

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On 4/22/2022 4:28 PM, DManzaluni wrote:

>
> Someone once told me to run the dishwasher with Affresh. I wonder how much of the gunge it would have 'dissolved'? I got this dishwasher about four years ago from my next door neighbour who used it once a month but who had bought all new appliances. I suppose it must have been 5-6 years old and I am positive it had never been cleaned.

If it is grungy, Affresh may help. OTOH, I've used dishwashers in three
houses over 56 years and have never used a cleaner. The detergent takes
care of everything and the inside is as clean as the dishes.

I use Cascade platinum and a rinse aid.

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> > But next stop is to do whatever it takes to get that float cover off and
> > see if the microswitch will 'click' under it. THEN I'll worry about the
> > pump having given out.

So the procedure is: Turn on, leave for a minute or so until I can hear water whooshing inside, yank open the door and press on the start button (which should still be lit up) for over 3 seconds? It then either goes out or starts flashing. But I havent managed to get it to start the pump by doing this. Either the float is jammed and is preventing water in-flow or something (that jamming?) is preventing the machine from starting its cycle?

Or the pump is dead!

On the other point, the problem I am still having is that I cant find a youtube showing how to get that float valve cover off. All the ones online show a screw which holds the cover on. Mine has no screw and seems to flex in some way to get it off.

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> If it is grungy, Affresh may help. OTOH, I've used dishwashers in three
> houses over 56 years and have never used a cleaner. The detergent takes
> care of everything and the inside is as clean as the dishes.

II used to agree with you but after seeing the sheer amount of grunge covering every invisible surface in that otherwise clean looking machine (which I had run with vinegar), I'm not so sure!!

Plus I used to have a Maytag and every time anyone ever called their technical support department, their telephonists had been trained with a catch-all written answer they stared at all day saying: TELL ALL USERS TO USE AFFRESH

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> > But next stop is to do whatever it takes to get that float cover off and
> > see if the microswitch will 'click' under it. THEN I'll worry about the
> > pump having given out.

So the procedure is: Turn on, leave for a minute or so until I can hear water whooshing inside, yank open the door and press on the start button (which should still be lit up) for over 3 seconds? It then either goes out or starts flashing. But I havent managed to get it to start the pump by doing this. Either the float is jammed and is preventing water in-flow or something (that jamming?) is preventing the machine from starting its cycle?

Or the pump is dead!

On the other point, the problem I am still having is that I cant find a youtube showing how to get that float valve cover off. All the ones online show a screw which holds the cover on. Mine has no screw and seems to flex in some way to get it off.

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On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 9:43:59 AM UTC-5, DManzaluni wrote:
> > > But next stop is to do whatever it takes to get that float cover off and
> > > see if the microswitch will 'click' under it. THEN I'll worry about the
> > > pump having given out.
> So the procedure is: Turn on, leave for a minute or so until I can hear water whooshing inside, yank open the door and press on the start button (which should still be lit up) for over 3 seconds? It then either goes out or starts flashing. But I havent managed to get it to start the pump by doing this. Either the float is jammed and is preventing water in-flow or something (that jamming?) is preventing the machine from starting its cycle?
>
> Or the pump is dead!
>
> On the other point, the problem I am still having is that I cant find a youtube showing how to get that float valve cover off. All the ones online show a screw which holds the cover on. Mine has no screw and seems to flex in some way to get it off.

There are some videos here although none specific for the float cover.
<https://www.appliancepartspros.com/parts-for-ge-pdwt180r10ss.html>

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On 4/23/2022 10:42 AM, Amanda Ripanykhazova wrote:
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>> If it is grungy, Affresh may help. OTOH, I've used dishwashers in three
>> houses over 56 years and have never used a cleaner. The detergent takes
>> care of everything and the inside is as clean as the dishes.
>
>
> II used to agree with you but after seeing the sheer amount of grunge covering every invisible surface in that otherwise clean looking machine (which I had run with vinegar), I'm not so sure!!
>
> Plus I used to have a Maytag and every time anyone ever called their technical support department, their telephonists had been trained with a catch-all written answer they stared at all day saying: TELL ALL USERS TO USE AFFRESH

You aid the dishwasher was prevously owned and used by someone else.
You have no idea what they put into it besides dishes. Perhaps they
washed items with adhesive labels as a lazy way to get the labels off.
Just one example of what could be contributing to the gunk you're finding.

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> You aid the dishwasher was prevously owned and used by someone else.
> You have no idea what they put into it besides dishes. Perhaps they
> washed items with adhesive labels as a lazy way to get the labels off.
> Just one example of what could be contributing to the gunk you're finding..

Good point. But they are a couple living in Florida that uses that apartment as a pied-a-terre. It got almost no use!

My definitive version of what is going on is that, three times now, i turn the unit on, it runs for a few minutes. The (faint) whooshing starts, indicating that the arms are spinning inside.

I yank the door open, press the start button for a few seconds and its light starts to flash.' I close the door and see it continuing to flash for a few minutes. NOTHING HAPPENS. No gurgling from the sink. Then it stops flashing. No sound that I could hear from inside the unit, Maybe, unless I was imagining it a slight click after two minutes from the inside of the door at the left? And either nothing drained or something stopped the pump from starting.

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Amanda Ripanykhazova <licensedtoquill@gmail.com> wrote

>> > But next stop is to do whatever it takes to get that float cover off
>> and
>> > see if the microswitch will 'click' under it. THEN I'll worry about
>> the
>> > pump having given out.

> So the procedure is: Turn on, leave for a minute or so until I can hear
> water whooshing inside, yank open the door and press on the start button

You don't open the door, you press the button with
the door closed, by feel when you know where it is.

> (which should still be lit up) for over 3 seconds? It then either goes
> out or starts flashing. But I havent managed to get it to start the
> pump by doing this.

Likely because you are opening the door. The video whose link I
posted doesn't show him opening the door, just pressing the button.

> Either the float is jammed and is preventing water in-flow or something
> (that jamming?) is preventing the machine from starting its cycle?

> Or the pump is dead!

> On the other point, the problem I am still having is that I cant find a
> youtube showing how to get that float valve cover off. All the ones
> online show a screw which holds the cover on. Mine has no screw and
> seems to flex in some way to get it off.

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Yes, but I found various sites showing that you can turn the unit off after opening the door and it does in fact turn the unit off if you open the door and press that START button for a few seconds. It just, in my case, doesnt activate any pump.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 17:18 UTC

DManzaluni <dmanzaluni@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but I found various sites showing that you can turn the unit off
> after opening the door and it does in fact turn the unit off if you open
> the door and press that START button for a few seconds.

But it is less clear if that does activate the pump.

> It just, in my case, doesnt activate any pump.

I'd try it without opening the door in case the dishwasher
only activates the pump when you press the button with the
door closed, after you can hear it has started the wash phase.

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On 4/23/2022 1:03 PM, DManzaluni wrote:
> Yes, but I found various sites showing that you can turn the unit off after opening the door and it does in fact turn the unit off if you open the door and press that START button for a few seconds. It just, in my case, doesnt activate any pump.

Just a thought: I have a 1 yr. old GE dishwasher. One of the trouble
shooting problems listed in the manual is that water remains in the
bottom after a cycle. Manual says that a common cause is if your
plumbing set up includes an air gap, make sure that the air gap isn't
clogged. The air gap commonly is the small cap with side holes that
extends up from the escutcheon near where the sprayer handle and/or
faucet is located on the counter top. That cap lifts off and underneath
there's a vertical pipe in the middle surrounded by a concentric drain
area. Normally, the drain water from the dishwasher is pumped up
against the inside surface of the cap and deflected by the cap into the
drain area. Check to see that both the pipe and the drain area aren't
clogged. In some areas, air gaps are required by code. In other areas,
the dishwasher drains directly into a side opening either near the top
of the under-sink trap or into the garbage disposal above the grinding
blade. If you don't have an air gap (I don't), but do have a disposal,
take the rubber or metal strainer out of the sink and with a flashlight
examine the sides of the interior wall of the disposal. About 1/month I
need to clean that aperture of white gunk that partially clogs it. I
usually reach a little bit inside the aperture with the short arm of an
allen wrench and flick out the gunk.

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On 4/23/2022 8:59 AM, DManzaluni wrote:
>> You aid the dishwasher was prevously owned and used by someone else.
>> You have no idea what they put into it besides dishes. Perhaps they
>> washed items with adhesive labels as a lazy way to get the labels off.
>> Just one example of what could be contributing to the gunk you're finding.
>
> Good point. But they are a couple living in Florida that uses that apartment as a pied-a-terre. It got almost no use!
>
> My definitive version of what is going on is that, three times now, i turn the unit on, it runs for a few minutes. The (faint) whooshing starts, indicating that the arms are spinning inside.
>
> I yank the door open, press the start button for a few seconds and its light starts to flash.' I close the door and see it continuing to flash for a few minutes. NOTHING HAPPENS. No gurgling from the sink. Then it stops flashing. No sound that I could hear from inside the unit, Maybe, unless I was imagining it a slight click after two minutes from the inside of the door at the left? And either nothing drained or something stopped the pump from starting.

Gunk, or broken glass or other hard items can jam the pump so it does
not turn or so it burns out. Or, the hose can get plugged up or kinked.
Or, the relay or other circuitry that get power to the drain pump can fail.

Here's some ideas.
https://www.hunker.com/12602234/a-home-remedy-to-unclog-a-dishwasher

I wonder if a wet/dry shop vac at the filter basket would suck anything out.

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Well if that is the case, I'm sunk because the only economical solution is to replace the dishwasher! But I doubt it is. I said I did manage to get the basket out and although it was disgustingly blocked, not enough of what was blocking it had managed to get past the basket. And there is no 'up-pipe;' going to the top surface of the sink.

I still think the next step must surely be to figure out precisely how to flex the float valve cover to get it off. While it should be quite easy to get it off, at the moment it is extremely difficult to know how it flexes.

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Then I am sunk because this unit isnt economical to repair if it is THAT far gone! I moping it isnt.

I suspect the lack of ANY gurgling at the sink means there isnt a blockage that far along the line, - and there is no up-pike at the sink

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 by: Dean Hoffman - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:40 UTC

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 3:47:54 PM UTC-5, DManzaluni wrote:
> My GE Profile PDWT180R10SS started not draining water. I ran it a few times to see if anything drained and it doesn't.
>
> I felt around the filter and the top came off so that I can get my hand in it, but there isnt much significant in it.I took tiny amounts of twigs out and ran it again with some white vinegar in it to see if I had cleared any of the blockage. It still doesn't drain
>
> BUT
>
> Then the front left corner started leaking just by the float/water inlet valve.
>
> Is this an obvious problem? Because to me it looks like two opposite problems, not draining AND leaking near the water inlet??

Does this help?
<https://www.appliancepartspros.com/repair-help/general-electric-dishwasher-pdwt180r10ss-repair/pdwt180r10ss-will-not-fill-with-water.html>

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 by: Retirednoguilt - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:45 UTC

On 4/24/2022 11:16 AM, DManzaluni wrote:
> Then I am sunk because this unit isnt economical to repair if it is THAT far gone! I moping it isnt.
>
> I suspect the lack of ANY gurgling at the sink means there isnt a blockage that far along the line, - and there is no up-pike at the sink

Have you tried calling the toll free customer service phone number for
the company, describing your problem, giving them the model number,
telling them what you've done to date and asking if there's anything
else you can do yourself? Is there a "technical repair manual" for your
model that might help? Have you considered investing in one service
call from a local appliance repair shop with a good reputation to at
least diagnose if not repair the dishwasher? (I wouldn't waste my time
or money on a "factory authorized" repair visit as in my experience,
regardless of which appliance and which manufacturer, the experience and
results are worse than with good local people; exception being if the
appliance is still under warranty.)

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:14 UTC

DManzaluni <dmanzaluni@gmail.com> wrote

> Then I am sunk because this unit isnt economical to repair if it is THAT
> far gone! I moping it isnt.

> I suspect the lack of ANY gurgling at the sink means there isnt a
> blockage that far along the line,

That bit is irrelevant, we already know that it isn't emptying the
dishwasher for some reason.

> - and there is no up-pike at the sink

Say that more clearly. There must be some way for the water to end up in
the drain when it is working properly.

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 by: DManzaluni - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 12:23 UTC

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:14:12 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
>
> Say that more clearly. There must be some way for the water to end up in
> the drain when it is working properly.

Sorry, I just meant that there is no connection between the drain pipe and the sink as is shown on the video to which reference was made. The drain obviously does drain into the waste pipe but I don't think that is where any blockage is. (There was only minimal material PAST the waste basket)

I am less thinking that the problem is to do with the float valve which seems to regulate INput not OUTput and it does seem that your first idea looks most likely, there is something stopping the pump from turning on.

Nothing I do seems to turn the pump on

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 by: DManzaluni - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:57 UTC

> Have you tried calling the toll free customer service phone number for
> the company, describing your problem, giving them the model number,
> telling them what you've done to date and asking if there's anything
> else you can do yourself?

That used to be a great method for getting any GE product working! There used to be people with amazing technical knowledge at the end of the 626 2000 line who had all the answers and who knew how and where to look for everything.

NEWS RELEASE: GE APPLIANCES TAKEN OVER BY HAIER, a relatively low end chinese manufacturer of vaguely OK models specialising in planned obsolescence.

Now the 626-2000 number is much more difficult to get through to and they seem to have fired all the knowledgeable reps and now they use that number as a profit centre to sell new machines at as much as a 10% discount. (They tend only to route users through to authorised repairers for a service call if the unit is new). Telling users how to get appliances working again is INIMICAL to that profit making purpose.

One would need to be desperate to spend time on calling that number in the HOPE of getting one of the knowledgeable reps who hasn't been fired yet!

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 by: Retirednoguilt - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:53 UTC

On 4/25/2022 10:57 AM, DManzaluni wrote:
>
>> Have you tried calling the toll free customer service phone number for
>> the company, describing your problem, giving them the model number,
>> telling them what you've done to date and asking if there's anything
>> else you can do yourself?
>
> That used to be a great method for getting any GE product working! There used to be people with amazing technical knowledge at the end of the 626 2000 line who had all the answers and who knew how and where to look for everything.
>
> NEWS RELEASE: GE APPLIANCES TAKEN OVER BY HAIER, a relatively low end chinese manufacturer of vaguely OK models specialising in planned obsolescence.
>
> Now the 626-2000 number is much more difficult to get through to and they seem to have fired all the knowledgeable reps and now they use that number as a profit centre to sell new machines at as much as a 10% discount. (They tend only to route users through to authorised repairers for a service call if the unit is new). Telling users how to get appliances working again is INIMICAL to that profit making purpose.
>
> One would need to be desperate to spend time on calling that number in the HOPE of getting one of the knowledgeable reps who hasn't been fired yet!

Sorry to hear that! I've got a relatively new GE wall oven, dishwasher,
and over the stove microwave. Fortunately, none have needed service to
date. All are a few years out of warranty. Had absolutely dreadful
experience about 6 years ago with GE factory authorized service
personnel on an out of warranty GE fridge I no longer own. I was hoping
my experience was atypical. I'm certainly not tempting fate again when I
ultimately need service on any of my GE appliances.

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 17:20 UTC

On 4/25/2022 5:23 AM, DManzaluni wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:14:12 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>> Say that more clearly. There must be some way for the water to end up in
>> the drain when it is working properly.
>
> Sorry, I just meant that there is no connection between the drain pipe and the sink as is shown on the video to which reference was made. The drain obviously does drain into the waste pipe but I don't think that is where any blockage is. (There was only minimal material PAST the waste basket)
>
> I am less thinking that the problem is to do with the float valve which seems to regulate INput not OUTput and it does seem that your first idea looks most likely, there is something stopping the pump from turning on.
>
> Nothing I do seems to turn the pump on

Have you checked for voltage at the pump motor?

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 by: DManzaluni - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:46 UTC

> Have you checked for voltage at the pump motor?

No, but why would there be no voltage at the pump?

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:59 UTC

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:46:42 +1000, DManzaluni <dmanzaluni@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>> Have you checked for voltage at the pump motor?
>
> No, but why would there be no voltage at the pump?

That bit of the logic card has failed, the wire to the pump
has come off, or there is voltage at the pump and the pump
is doing nothing, proving that the pump has failed.

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