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 by: 26C.Z968 - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:49 UTC

On 10/19/22 5:27 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <CJM3L.1088969$vFVf.754154@fx02.ams1>,
> Mighty Wannabe <@.> wrote:
>
>> I am a very good observer in global politics, especial China, US and
>> Russia (the new "Three Kingdoms"). I read newspaper (now websites) from
>
> You aren't.
>
>> Mark my words. China is not bluffing about Taiwan.
>
> The only thing PRC can accomplish is dropping nuclear weapons on
> Taiwan. So PRC can occupy an irradiated, sterile rock, but that
> will be of no economic benefit. And will subject them to severe
> economic sanctions.

a) They would not nuke Taiwan into a "sterile rock", though
maybe a couple of military installations ...

b) Sanctions ? We CAN'T really sanction China worth a damn
because we moved all our manufacturing and much of our
natural-resources biz over to them. Xi knows this. Kill
China and we cut our own throats.

Re: Ukraine war: Energy situation 'critical' after Russian attacks

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Thu, 20 Oct 2022 06:46 UTC

On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:49:15 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
wrote:

> a) They would not nuke Taiwan into a "sterile rock", though
> maybe a couple of military installations ...
>
> b) Sanctions ? We CAN'T really sanction China worth a damn
> because we moved all our manufacturing and much of our
> natural-resources biz over to them. Xi knows this. Kill
> China and we cut our own throats.

A) I guess you've never heard of "fallout" or considered what would
happen to any country that used nukes in a first strike.

B) The Biden administration is already implementing recent
legislation forcing the return of manufacturing here, especially of
critical goods like electronic components.

C) Their throats would be cut deeper. Any embargo of China by Europe
and the Americas would destroy their economy almost immediately.

Swill
--
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I'm a libertarian in my passion for freedom and I'm a consevative
in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of them.
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Re: Ukraine war: Energy situation 'critical' after Russian attacks

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 by: 26C.Z968 - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 02:15 UTC

On 10/20/22 2:46 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:49:15 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
> wrote:
>
>> a) They would not nuke Taiwan into a "sterile rock", though
>> maybe a couple of military installations ...
>>
>> b) Sanctions ? We CAN'T really sanction China worth a damn
>> because we moved all our manufacturing and much of our
>> natural-resources biz over to them. Xi knows this. Kill
>> China and we cut our own throats.
>
> A) I guess you've never heard of "fallout" or considered what would
> happen to any country that used nukes in a first strike.

Ummmm ... never considered the fallout in the FIRST STRUCK
countries eh ? :-)

> B) The Biden administration is already implementing recent
> legislation forcing the return of manufacturing here, especially of
> critical goods like electronic components.

Oooooh ! That leaves 99% of The Problem remaining. And it
will take YEARS to get those chip factories built and
tuned-in ......

> C) Their throats would be cut deeper. Any embargo of China by Europe
> and the Americas would destroy their economy almost immediately.

Yea, but China is totalitarian. Bitch and get SHOT.

They've murdered/starved umpteen millions before and
just shrugged it off. Big Red DON'T CARE. The bosses
will remain the bosses regardless.

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Fri, 21 Oct 2022 17:57 UTC

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 22:15:45 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
wrote:

>On 10/20/22 2:46 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:49:15 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> a) They would not nuke Taiwan into a "sterile rock", though
>>> maybe a couple of military installations ...
>>>
>>> b) Sanctions ? We CAN'T really sanction China worth a damn
>>> because we moved all our manufacturing and much of our
>>> natural-resources biz over to them. Xi knows this. Kill
>>> China and we cut our own throats.
>>
>> A) I guess you've never heard of "fallout" or considered what would
>> happen to any country that used nukes in a first strike.
>
>
> Ummmm ... never considered the fallout in the FIRST STRUCK
> countries eh ? :-)

Yeah, but that's the point of MAD. "It's you and me together, dead
man."

>> B) The Biden administration is already implementing recent
>> legislation forcing the return of manufacturing here, especially of
>> critical goods like electronic components.
>
>
> Oooooh ! That leaves 99% of The Problem remaining. And it
> will take YEARS to get those chip factories built and
> tuned-in ......

Yes it will but you got to start sometime. Truthfully, this
particular problem is the fault of American consumers for choosing to
buy Chinese goods. For example, even after it was public that Apple
was manufacturing it's products in China, their customers kept buying
iPhones.

>> C) Their throats would be cut deeper. Any embargo of China by Europe
>> and the Americas would destroy their economy almost immediately.
>
> Yea, but China is totalitarian. Bitch and get SHOT.
>
> They've murdered/starved umpteen millions before and
> just shrugged it off. Big Red DON'T CARE. The bosses
> will remain the bosses regardless.

Times have changed and so has China. Now it has rich citizens and
it's billion people don't live scattered in the country anymore, now
they're concentrated in the cities.

Swill
--
What am I? I'm a progressive in my compassion for the vulnerable.
I'm a libertarian in my passion for freedom and I'm a consevative
in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of them.
- Michael Schellenberger, independent candidate for Governor in California
https://www.gocomics.com/mattdavies/2022/09/18

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