Tonight was Sophia's school Christmas play at a church a few blocks down
the hill from my house. I'm glad that I didn't drive, because when I
called my mom when I got home, she was still trying to get out of the
parking lot. Still, BRR, it's cold out!

We just got home about 20 minutes ago, so for a fast/late supper, it's
"left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until hot...
Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham slices. I'd rather
have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is what it is, LOL.

On 12/16/2022 7:52 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> Tonight was Sophia's school Christmas play at a church a few blocks down
> the hill from my house.  I'm glad that I didn't drive, because when I
> called my mom when I got home, she was still trying to get out of the
> parking lot.  Still, BRR, it's cold out!
>
Are you talking snow, ice? I hate to tell you it was 65°F here today.

> We just got home about 20 minutes ago, so for a fast/late supper, it's
> "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until hot...
> Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham slices.  I'd rather
> have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is what it is, LOL.

Pan-fried catfish fillets, with baked (from frozen) hush puppies and
steamed broccoli.

Jill

On 12/16/2022 20:38, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 7:52 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> Tonight was Sophia's school Christmas play at a church a few blocks
>> down the hill from my house. I'm glad that I didn't drive, because
>> when I called my mom when I got home, she was still trying to get out
>> of the parking lot. Still, BRR, it's cold out!
>>
> Are you talking snow, ice? I hate to tell you it was 65°F here today.

Not yet, but it's coming soon. I probably wouldn't have walked home up
a steep hill if there was snow/ice about. It was in the low 30's after
the sun set.

>> We just got home about 20 minutes ago, so for a fast/late supper, it's
>> "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until
>> hot... Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham slices. I'd
>> rather have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is what
>> it is, LOL.
>
> Pan-fried catfish fillets, with baked (from frozen) hush puppies and
> steamed broccoli.
>
> Jill

Sounds good! I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only had
fried long-john silver ones. Ugh, so greasy and dense.

Michael Trew wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 20:38, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 7:52 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> Tonight was Sophia's school Christmas play at a church a few blocks
>>> down the hill from my house.  I'm glad that I didn't drive, because
>>> when I called my mom when I got home, she was still trying to
>>> get out
>>> of the parking lot.  Still, BRR, it's cold out!
>>>
>> Are you talking snow, ice? I hate to tell you it was 65°F here
>> today.
>
> Not yet, but it's coming soon.  I probably wouldn't have walked
> home up a steep hill if there was snow/ice about.  It was in the
> low 30's after the sun set.
>
>>> We just got home about 20 minutes ago, so for a fast/late
>>> supper, it's
>>> "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until
>>> hot... Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham slices.
>>> I'd
>>> rather have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is
>>> what
>>> it is, LOL.
>>
>> Pan-fried catfish fillets, with baked (from frozen) hush puppies and
>> steamed broccoli.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Sounds good!  I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only
> had fried long-john silver ones.  Ugh, so greasy and dense.

That's how they are supposed to be. A sort of a fucked up greasy
cornbread rolled into a dense ball and deep fried to obtain more
greasiness.

On 2022-12-16 9:12 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 20:38, jmcquown wrote:
it is, LOL.
>>
>> Pan-fried catfish fillets, with baked (from frozen) hush puppies and
>> steamed broccoli.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Sounds good!  I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only had
> fried long-john silver ones.  Ugh, so greasy and dense.

I have seen and heard a number of reports about obesity in poor
neighbourhoods and attributing it to the price and availability of food
in poor neighbourhoods. I guess the reason for the types of stores in
those neighbourhoods is that no one wants to invest a lot of money in an
area where there will be a lot of theft. Those little stores tend to be
expensive and that junk food is pretty expensive.

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Michael Trew wrote:
> >
> > I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only
> > had fried long-john silver ones. Ugh, so greasy and dense.
> >
> That's how they are supposed to be. A sort of a fucked up greasy
> cornbread rolled into a dense ball and deep fried to obtain more
> greasiness.
>
Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
Great sweet tea. too.

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 6:52:18 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> it's "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until hot...
> Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham slices. I'd rather
> have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is what it is, LOL.
>
It was left over pressure cooker pot roast here and it was just as good
tonight as it was last night.

On 12/16/2022 10:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>
> I have seen and heard a number of reports about obesity in poor
> neighbourhoods and attributing it to the price and availability of food
> in poor neighbourhoods.  I guess the reason for the types of stores in
> those neighbourhoods is that no one wants to invest a lot of money in an
> area where there will be a lot of theft.  Those little stores tend to be
> expensive and that junk food is pretty expensive.
>

A good supermarket would go broke. Most in those areas shop at Dollar
Tree and the like, no fresh produce or meats. They do have some canned
good, fruit juices but I'd not try to make a really good dinner from
there.

Another factor is they don't have transportation to the better stores or
farm markets. Going back a few years in CT, they did have a small bus
to take people shopping. Not sure how it made out.

On 12/16/2022 9:12 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 20:38, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 7:52 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> Tonight was Sophia's school Christmas play at a church a few blocks
>>> down the hill from my house.  I'm glad that I didn't drive, because
>>> when I called my mom when I got home, she was still trying to get out
>>> of the parking lot.  Still, BRR, it's cold out!
>>>
>> Are you talking snow, ice? I hate to tell you it was 65°F here today.
>
> Not yet, but it's coming soon.  I probably wouldn't have walked home up
> a steep hill if there was snow/ice about.  It was in the low 30's after
> the sun set.
>
>>> We just got home about 20 minutes ago, so for a fast/late supper, it's
>>> "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until
>>> hot... Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham slices.  I'd
>>> rather have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is what
>>> it is, LOL.
>>
>> Pan-fried catfish fillets, with baked (from frozen) hush puppies and
>> steamed broccoli.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Sounds good!  I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only had
> fried long-john silver ones.  Ugh, so greasy and dense.

Properly prepared, hush puppies are not greasy or dense. I buy the
frozen ones because I don't deep fry (too much hassle storing and
straining oil). The frozen ones bake up nice and crispy outside but are
quite moist on the inside.

Jill

On 12/16/2022 10:38 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only
>>> had fried long-john silver ones. Ugh, so greasy and dense.
>>>
>> That's how they are supposed to be. A sort of a fucked up greasy
>> cornbread rolled into a dense ball and deep fried to obtain more
>> greasiness.
>>
> Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
> Great sweet tea. too.

It's apparent Hank has never had good hushpuppies. The batter is not
greasy and if the frying oil is at the correct hot temperature they
brown very quickly and are not greasy.

Jill

GM wrote:
> I had bacon - wrapped dates for an app,

That sounds like a good combo. Sweet and savory is always good.

On 2022-12-17 9:04 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 10:38 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:

>> Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
>> Great sweet tea. too.
>
>
> It's apparent Hank has never had good hushpuppies.  The batter is not
> greasy and if the frying oil is at the correct hot temperature they
> brown very quickly and are not greasy.
>
>

I had them when I was down your way. They were not the least bit greasy.

On 12/17/2022 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-12-17 9:04 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 10:38 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>> Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
>>> Great sweet tea. too.
>>
>>
>> It's apparent Hank has never had good hushpuppies.  The batter is not
>> greasy and if the frying oil is at the correct hot temperature they
>> brown very quickly and are not greasy.
>>
>>
>
> I had them when I was down your way. They were not the least bit greasy.

Properly deep fried food is not greasy. The moisture in the food almost
immediately is pulled out of the food and keeps the oil from penetrating.

Key to cooking is to have the oil HOT and don't put too much food in at
a time.

On 12/17/2022 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-12-17 9:04 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 10:38 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>> Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
>>> Great sweet tea. too.
>>
>>
>> It's apparent Hank has never had good hushpuppies.  The batter is not
>> greasy and if the frying oil is at the correct hot temperature they
>> brown very quickly and are not greasy.
>>
>>
>
> I had them when I was down your way. They were not the least bit greasy.
>
>
Yeah, it was Hank again with his 2 cent opinion about food.

Jill

On 12/17/2022 10:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 12/17/2022 10:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-12-17 9:04 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2022 10:38 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>>> Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
>>>> Great sweet tea. too.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's apparent Hank has never had good hushpuppies.  The batter is not
>>> greasy and if the frying oil is at the correct hot temperature they
>>> brown very quickly and are not greasy.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I had them when I was down your way. They were not the least bit greasy.
>
> Properly deep fried food is not greasy. The moisture in the food almost
> immediately is pulled out of the food and keeps the oil from penetrating.
>
> Key to cooking is to have the oil HOT and don't put too much food in at
> a time.
>
>
>
That's pretty much what I said, Gary. The oil temperature is key. If
you try to fry anything in oil that isn't hot enough the result will be
greasy. The batter for hushpuppies is not greasy and if the oil is hot
the food will not absorb the grease/oil.

Jill

itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've only
>>> had fried long-john silver ones. Ugh, so greasy and dense.
>>>
>> That's how they are supposed to be. A sort of a fucked up greasy
>> cornbread rolled into a dense ball and deep fried to obtain more
>> greasiness.
>>
> Captain D's seafood restaurant (fast food) has really good hushpuppies.
> Great sweet tea. too.
>

Those at captain d are about the best I ever had.

They're still greasy like they're supposed to be.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 9:12 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 20:38, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2022 7:52 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> Tonight was Sophia's school Christmas play at a church a few
>>>> blocks
>>>> down the hill from my house.  I'm glad that I didn't drive,
>>>> because
>>>> when I called my mom when I got home, she was still trying to
>>>> get out
>>>> of the parking lot.  Still, BRR, it's cold out!
>>>>
>>> Are you talking snow, ice? I hate to tell you it was 65°F here
>>> today.
>>
>> Not yet, but it's coming soon.  I probably wouldn't have walked
>> home up a steep hill if there was snow/ice about.  It was in the
>> low 30's after the sun set.
>>
>>>> We just got home about 20 minutes ago, so for a fast/late
>>>> supper, it's
>>>> "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until
>>>> hot... Scalloped potatoes au gratin > green beans > ham
>>>> slices.  I'd
>>>> rather have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is
>>>> what
>>>> it is, LOL.
>>>
>>> Pan-fried catfish fillets, with baked (from frozen) hush puppies
>>> and
>>> steamed broccoli.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Sounds good!  I've never been a fan of hush puppies, but I've
>> only had fried long-john silver ones.  Ugh, so greasy and dense.
>
> Properly prepared, hush puppies are not greasy or dense.  I buy the
> frozen ones because I don't deep fry (too much hassle storing and
> straining oil).  The frozen ones bake up nice and crispy outside
> but are quite moist on the inside.
>
> Jill

I've bought the frozen puppies a few times. They are fairly
decent, but don't have near enough grease to be authentic. They'd
likely be much better if deep fried instead of baked.

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:06:53 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> I've bought the frozen puppies a few times.
>
Frozen puppy will never be as tender as
fresh puppy. Same goes for kitten.

--Bryan

On 12/16/2022 22:46, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 6:52:18 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> it's "left over casserole", in the oven for about 20 minutes, or until hot...
>> Scalloped potatoes au gratin> green beans> ham slices. I'd rather
>> have some of Joan's pressure cooker pot roast, but it is what it is, LOL.
>>
> It was left over pressure cooker pot roast here and it was just as good
> tonight as it was last night.

Darn it, I should have drove to Nashville.