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* trumpy rallyslider
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 +* two kinds of people on this Earthchris rodgers
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 by: slider - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 05:41 UTC

### - jeez, was at least hoping to hear summat new, but 15 minutes of all
that: tired-old 'reiterated-crapola' was just about all i could bear...

the man standing there like some practiced-preacher in standard black; a
metaphorical-gun in one hand and a bible in the other, and then THUMPING
that bible WITH the gun?? (pretty corny shit really) - the crowd literally
lapping-up all that intellectual violence coz they haven't been fed in a
while??

all of which, heh, reminds of an old cc-story along those lines that seems
apropos...

i.e.,

"And then he began to tell a most disconcerting tale about a country
bumpkin who became an
important official during a time of political upheaval. Don Genaro said
that the hero of his
story was appointed minister, or governor, or perhaps even president
because there was no
way of telling what people would do in their folly. Because of this
appointment, he came to
believe that he was indeed important and learned to put on an act.

He said that the hero of the story was very good at public appearances and
could whip up a speech with no difficulty at all, but that his position
required that he read his speeches, and the man was illiterate.

So he used his wits to outsmart everybody. He had a sheet of paper with
something written on
it and flashed it around whenever he gave a speech. And thus his
efficiency and other good
qualities were undeniable to all the country bumpkins. But one day a
literate stranger came
along and noticed that the hero was reading his speech while holding the
sheet upside down.
He began to laugh and pointed out the lie to everyone.

Don Genaro again paused for a moment and looked at me, squinting his eyes,
and asked, "Do
you think that the hero was caught? Not a chance. He faced everyone calmly
and said, 'Upside
down? Why should the position of the sheet matter if you know how to
read?' And the
bumpkins agreed with him."

***

know wot i mean? :)))

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 by: LowRider44M - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 15:44 UTC

On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 12:41:12 AM UTC-5, slider wrote:
> ### - jeez, was at least hoping to hear summat new, but 15 minutes of all
> that: tired-old 'reiterated-crapola' was just about all i could bear...
>
> the man standing there like some practiced-preacher in standard black; a
> metaphorical-gun in one hand and a bible in the other, and then THUMPING
> that bible WITH the gun?? (pretty corny shit really) - the crowd literally
> lapping-up all that intellectual violence coz they haven't been fed in a
> while??
>
> all of which, heh, reminds of an old cc-story along those lines that seems
> apropos...
>
> i.e.,
>
> "And then he began to tell a most disconcerting tale about a country
> bumpkin who became an
> important official during a time of political upheaval. Don Genaro said
> that the hero of his
> story was appointed minister, or governor, or perhaps even president
> because there was no
> way of telling what people would do in their folly. Because of this
> appointment, he came to
> believe that he was indeed important and learned to put on an act.
>
> He said that the hero of the story was very good at public appearances and
> could whip up a speech with no difficulty at all, but that his position
> required that he read his speeches, and the man was illiterate.
>
> So he used his wits to outsmart everybody. He had a sheet of paper with
> something written on
> it and flashed it around whenever he gave a speech. And thus his
> efficiency and other good
> qualities were undeniable to all the country bumpkins. But one day a
> literate stranger came
> along and noticed that the hero was reading his speech while holding the
> sheet upside down.
> He began to laugh and pointed out the lie to everyone.
>
> Don Genaro again paused for a moment and looked at me, squinting his eyes,
> and asked, "Do
> you think that the hero was caught? Not a chance. He faced everyone calmly
> and said, 'Upside
> down? Why should the position of the sheet matter if you know how to
> read?' And the
> bumpkins agreed with him."
>
> ***
>
> know wot i mean? :)))

But... YOU HAD TO WATCH. Hehehe

This is the crux of it all

two kinds of people on this Earth

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 by: chris rodgers - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 15:48 UTC

first kind are just scared.
the second kind of just full of shit.

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This is the summary, gist of it all.

Abstract Cores

1. The Manifestations of Spirit

2. The Knock of the Spirit

3. A. The dusting of the link
3. B. The stalking of ones self
3. C. The trickery of the spirit
3. D. The trickery of the abstract

4. A. The fourth abstract core is an act of revelation.
4. A. The descent of the spirit or being moved by intent.

[]

Intent creates edifices before us and invites us to enter them.
This is the way sorcerers understand what is happening around them.
I want you to understand the underlying order of what I teach you.
It means two things: both the edifice that intent manufactures
in the blink of an eye and places in front of us to enter, and
the signs it gives us so we won't get lost once we are inside.

[]

There is a threshold that once crossed permits no retreat.
Every sorcerer should have a clear memory of crossing that
threshold so he can remind himself of the new state of his perceptual
potential. One does not have to be an apprentice of sorcery to reach this
threshold, and the only difference between an average man and a sorcerer,
in such cases, is what each emphasizes. A sorcerer emphasizes crossing this
threshold and uses the memory of it as a point of reference.

An average man does not cross the threshold and does his best to forget all about it.
Sorcerers say that the fourth abstract core happens when the spirit cuts our chains of selfreflection.
Cutting our chains is marvelous, but also very undesirable, for nobody wants to be free.

4. A. The fourth abstract core is an act of revelation.
4. A. The descent of the spirit or being moved by intent.

[]

The secret of our chains is that they imprison us, but by keeping us pinned down on our
comfortable spot of self-reflection, they defend us from the onslaughts of the unknown.
Once our chains are cut, we are no longer bound by the concerns of the daily world.
We are still in the daily world, but we don't belong there anymore.
In order to belong we must share the concerns of people. And without chains we can't.
What distinguishes normal people is that we share a metaphorical dagger: the concerns of
our self-reflection. With this dagger, we cut ourselves and bleed; and the job of our chains
of selfreflection is to give us the feeling that we are bleeding together, that we are sharing
something wonderful: our humanity. But if we were to examine it, we would discover that we are
bleeding alone; that we are not sharing anything; that all we are doing is toying with our manageable,
unreal, man-made reflection.

[]

Sorcerers are no longer in the world of daily affairs because they are no longer prey to their
self-reflection. What a strange feeling: to realize that everything we think, everything we say
depends on the position of the assemblage point.

[]

Technically the assemblage point is the 5th core, abstractly stated 1-2-3-4 = 5 AP

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 by: chris rodgers - Fri, 28 Jan 2022 06:55 UTC

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 07:48:28 -0800 (PST), chris rodgers
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

>first kind are just scared.
>the second kind of just full of shit.

So where do I (you) fit in?

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