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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 02:51 UTC

Hi All,

I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
retailkers association. There explanation for inflation was rising
demand and lower availability.

And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
etc.. E

This is what causes inflation:

Liquidity exceed economic growth

This means that amount of money floating around
out there in not backed by economic growth. That
is all there is too it.

And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
back it up except printing money is the cause of
inflation. Not Putin.

Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
savings and wealth and claiming they did not
raise taxes. Gee Wiz, how did that happen. Must
have been Putin. Wait, it must have been Trump ...

-T

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 by: Dean Hoffman - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:00 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:51:45 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
> retailkers association. There explanation for inflation was rising
> demand and lower availability.
>
> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
> etc.. E
>
> This is what causes inflation:
>
> Liquidity exceed economic growth
>
> This means that amount of money floating around
> out there in not backed by economic growth. That
> is all there is too it.
>
> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
> back it up except printing money is the cause of
> inflation. Not Putin.
>
> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
> raise taxes. Gee Wiz, how did that happen. Must
> have been Putin. Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>
> -T

And the Poor get poorer.

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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:06 UTC

On 4/28/22 20:00, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:51:45 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
>> retailkers association. There explanation for inflation was rising
>> demand and lower availability.
>>
>> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
>> etc.. E
>>
>> This is what causes inflation:
>>
>> Liquidity exceed economic growth
>>
>> This means that amount of money floating around
>> out there in not backed by economic growth. That
>> is all there is too it.
>>
>> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
>> back it up except printing money is the cause of
>> inflation. Not Putin.
>>
>> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
>> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
>> raise taxes. Gee Wiz, how did that happen. Must
>> have been Putin. Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>>
>> -T
>
> And the Poor get poorer.

That is how you tax the poor and fake like you are not.

And the Rich get Richer as their loans/liability are
reduced. Gee Wiz, got the poor to pay for it!

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:31 UTC

On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
> retailkers association.  There explanation for inflation was rising
> demand and lower availability.
>
> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
> etc..  E
>
> This is what causes inflation:
>
>      Liquidity exceed economic growth
>
> This means that amount of money floating around
> out there in not backed by economic growth.  That
> is all there is too it.
>
> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
> back it up except printing money is the cause of
> inflation.  Not Putin.
>
> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
> raise taxes.  Gee Wiz, how did that happen.  Must
> have been Putin.  Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>
> -T
>
Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN, You must have missed it, they did a
nice piece about it.

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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 03:43 UTC

On 4/28/22 20:31, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
>> retailkers association.  There explanation for inflation was rising
>> demand and lower availability.
>>
>> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
>> etc..  E
>>
>> This is what causes inflation:
>>
>>       Liquidity exceed economic growth
>>
>> This means that amount of money floating around
>> out there in not backed by economic growth.  That
>> is all there is too it.
>>
>> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
>> back it up except printing money is the cause of
>> inflation.  Not Putin.
>>
>> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
>> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
>> raise taxes.  Gee Wiz, how did that happen.  Must
>> have been Putin.  Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>>
>> -T
>>
> Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN,  You must have missed it, they did a
> nice piece about it.
Must not have gotten the talking points from the NYT.
Did they blame Putin, Trump, everyone but the democrats
and their crazy spending?

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 by: rbowman - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:36 UTC

On 04/28/2022 09:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
>> retailkers association. There explanation for inflation was rising
>> demand and lower availability.
>>
>> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
>> etc.. E
>>
>> This is what causes inflation:
>>
>> Liquidity exceed economic growth
>>
>> This means that amount of money floating around
>> out there in not backed by economic growth. That
>> is all there is too it.
>>
>> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
>> back it up except printing money is the cause of
>> inflation. Not Putin.
>>
>> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
>> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
>> raise taxes. Gee Wiz, how did that happen. Must
>> have been Putin. Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>>
>> -T
>>
> Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN, You must have missed it, they did a
> nice piece about it.

CNN is still around? After the CNN+ debacle I thought Warner Bros
Discovery might have flushed the who deal.

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 by: Frank - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:15 UTC

On 4/28/2022 11:43 PM, T wrote:
> On 4/28/22 20:31, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
>>> retailkers association.  There explanation for inflation was rising
>>> demand and lower availability.
>>>
>>> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
>>> etc..  E
>>>
>>> This is what causes inflation:
>>>
>>>       Liquidity exceed economic growth
>>>
>>> This means that amount of money floating around
>>> out there in not backed by economic growth.  That
>>> is all there is too it.
>>>
>>> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
>>> back it up except printing money is the cause of
>>> inflation.  Not Putin.
>>>
>>> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
>>> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
>>> raise taxes.  Gee Wiz, how did that happen.  Must
>>> have been Putin.  Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>>>
>>> -T
>>>
>> Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN,  You must have missed it, they did a
>> nice piece about it.
>
> Must not have gotten the talking points from the NYT.
>
> Did they blame Putin, Trump, everyone but the democrats
> and their crazy spending?
>

Do not forget Biden's oil pipeline and land leasing closures. Increased
cost in fuel which is used in all market sectors cascaded inflation.

Coming out of the pandemic we did not need a huge influx of money into
the economy. The democrat cure to all problems is to spend more money.

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 by: trader_4 - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:30 UTC

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:43:22 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 4/28/22 20:31, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
> >> retailkers association. There explanation for inflation was rising
> >> demand and lower availability.
> >>
> >> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
> >> etc.. E
> >>
> >> This is what causes inflation:
> >>
> >> Liquidity exceed economic growth
> >>
> >> This means that amount of money floating around
> >> out there in not backed by economic growth. That
> >> is all there is too it.
> >>
> >> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
> >> back it up except printing money is the cause of
> >> inflation. Not Putin.
> >>
> >> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
> >> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
> >> raise taxes. Gee Wiz, how did that happen. Must
> >> have been Putin. Wait, it must have been Trump ...
> >>
> >> -T
> >>
> > Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN, You must have missed it, they did a
> > nice piece about it.
> Must not have gotten the talking points from the NYT.
>
> Did they blame Putin, Trump, everyone but the democrats
> and their crazy spending?

As usual, you have your own version of what is actually being reported.
Here for example is what NY Times actually said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/16/briefing/inflation-biden-approval.html

Trump isn't even menioned, but they list Biden and the Democrats at the start of
their list of the causes of inflation

Or this from CNN Business:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/10/economy/inflation-blame-pandemic-biden-fed-corporations/index.html

Trump is barely mentioned, Biden has a whole section.

Or this from US News:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-15/ap-fact-check-biden-skirts-blame-on-inflation-gop-gas-hype

In other words, once again, you're making up your own BS, then claiming it's
what the media that you hate is reporting. BTW, since you hate them so much,
I doubt you even watch it, so how would you know? Sounds like you're the one
that relies on getting talking points, from right wingers of course.

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:57 UTC

On 4/29/2022 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:43:22 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
>> On 4/28/22 20:31, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
>>>> retailkers association. There explanation for inflation was rising
>>>> demand and lower availability.
>>>>
>>>> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
>>>> etc.. E
>>>>
>>>> This is what causes inflation:
>>>>
>>>> Liquidity exceed economic growth
>>>>
>>>> This means that amount of money floating around
>>>> out there in not backed by economic growth. That
>>>> is all there is too it.
>>>>
>>>> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
>>>> back it up except printing money is the cause of
>>>> inflation. Not Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
>>>> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
>>>> raise taxes. Gee Wiz, how did that happen. Must
>>>> have been Putin. Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>>>>
>>>> -T
>>>>
>>> Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN, You must have missed it, they did a
>>> nice piece about it.
>> Must not have gotten the talking points from the NYT.
>>
>> Did they blame Putin, Trump, everyone but the democrats
>> and their crazy spending?
>
> As usual, you have your own version of what is actually being reported.
> Here for example is what NY Times actually said:
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/16/briefing/inflation-biden-approval.html
>
> Trump isn't even menioned, but they list Biden and the Democrats at the start of
> their list of the causes of inflation
>
> Or this from CNN Business:
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/10/economy/inflation-blame-pandemic-biden-fed-corporations/index.html
>
> Trump is barely mentioned, Biden has a whole section.
>
> Or this from US News:
>
> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-15/ap-fact-check-biden-skirts-blame-on-inflation-gop-gas-hype
>
>
> In other words, once again, you're making up your own BS, then claiming it's
> what the media that you hate is reporting. BTW, since you hate them so much,
> I doubt you even watch it, so how would you know? Sounds like you're the one
> that relies on getting talking points, from right wingers of course.

Q believed what someone told him but refuses to listen to the MSM. Same
info but filtered through a friend.

You just cannot limit yourself to sources with an agenda either way, but
Q does just that since he agrees with the far right agenda and sucks up
the BS they spout.

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 by: Pthirus Pubis - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:22 UTC

Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/

Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10. Proving once again that stolen elections have consequences.

Let's go Brandon!

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 by: Frank - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:43 UTC

On 4/29/2022 4:22 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982
>
> https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/
>
>
> Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10.  Proving once again that stolen
> elections have consequences.
>
> Let's go Brandon!

No doubt Biden has a lot of blame for this.

Gas prices were at a nadir when covid shut things down. Price got too
low for some oil producers and they shut down.

In recovery from the virus prices were due to rise with increased demand
but adding to this were Biden's shutting down pipelines, stopping
federal land leases and increased regulation.

Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
years and pushing electric car production. Lot of places here and
abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future. So why should oil
companies increase production.

We are being crucified on the green cross and dems encourage it. They
blame Putin and oil company greed. Only stupid people believe this.

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On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 4:22 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
> > Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982
> >
> > https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/
> >
> >
> > Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10. Proving once again that stolen
> > elections have consequences.
> >
> > Let's go Brandon!
> No doubt Biden has a lot of blame for this.
>
> Gas prices were at a nadir when covid shut things down. Price got too
> low for some oil producers and they shut down.
>
> In recovery from the virus prices were due to rise with increased demand
> but adding to this were Biden's shutting down pipelines, stopping
> federal land leases and increased regulation.
>
> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
> years and pushing electric car production. Lot of places here and
> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future. So why should oil
> companies increase production.
>
> We are being crucified on the green cross and dems encourage it. They
> blame Putin and oil company greed. Only stupid people believe this.

Biden said U.S. military vehicles will run on batteries in the future during
his Earth Day speech. Imagine a fighter jet being "refueled" during flight.

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:26 UTC

On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 4:22 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>> Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982
>>
>> https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/
>>
>>
>> Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10.  Proving once again that
>> stolen elections have consequences.
>>
>> Let's go Brandon!
>
> No doubt Biden has a lot of blame for this.
>
> Gas prices were at a nadir when covid shut things down.  Price got too
> low for some oil producers and they shut down.
>
> In recovery from the virus prices were due to rise with increased demand
> but adding to this were Biden's shutting down pipelines, stopping
> federal land leases and increased regulation.
>
> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
> companies increase production.
>
> We are being crucified on the green cross and dems encourage it.  They
> blame Putin and oil company greed.  Only stupid people believe this.

Only stupid people think it has nothing to do with it too. There i a
lot of blame in different areas.

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:38 UTC

On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:

>
> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
> companies increase production.

You bring up some interesting points.

What do you think the future will be like. I'm talking 20, 30, 40 years
from now. The easy to get oil will be gone, the hard to get oil will
cost more to produce and eventually, there will be none.

What would your plan be? Should we be looking at better ways to capture
solar? There is more solar energy on the earth every day that we can
possibly use. Should we be fixing the grid? Should we convert the auto
fleet to EV so the fuel left can be used in aircraft?

Should we have a plan or just grab as much cheap gas now as we can get?
Is this just a fiscal situation or do we have a moral obligation to
consider the future?

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On 2022-04-29, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> That is how you tax the poor and fake like you are not.

I'm in favor of higher taxes for the poor because they are the
ones who require the most government support. Therefore logic
dictates that they are the ones who should be paying for it.

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 by: Frank - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 22:46 UTC

On 4/29/2022 3:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 4:22 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>>> Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982
>>>
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10.  Proving once again that
>>> stolen elections have consequences.
>>>
>>> Let's go Brandon!
>>
>> No doubt Biden has a lot of blame for this.
>>
>> Gas prices were at a nadir when covid shut things down.  Price got too
>> low for some oil producers and they shut down.
>>
>> In recovery from the virus prices were due to rise with increased
>> demand but adding to this were Biden's shutting down pipelines,
>> stopping federal land leases and increased regulation.
>>
>> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
>> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
>> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
>> companies increase production.
>>
>> We are being crucified on the green cross and dems encourage it.  They
>> blame Putin and oil company greed.  Only stupid people believe this.
>
> Only stupid people think it has nothing to do with it too.  There i a
> lot of blame in different areas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5LmPQq-EME

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 by: Frank - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 22:58 UTC

On 4/29/2022 3:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
>
>>
>> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
>> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
>> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
>> companies increase production.
>
> You bring up some interesting points.
>
> What do you think the future will be like.  I'm talking 20, 30, 40 years
> from now.  The easy to get oil will be gone, the hard to get oil will
> cost more to produce and eventually, there will be none.
>
> What would your plan be?  Should we be looking at better ways to capture
> solar?  There is more solar energy on the earth every day that we can
> possibly use.  Should we be fixing the grid?  Should we convert the auto
> fleet to EV so the fuel left can be used in aircraft?
>
> Should we have a plan or just grab as much cheap gas now as we can get?
> Is this just a fiscal situation or do we have a moral obligation to
> consider the future?

We will never run out of oil but it will continue to be more expensive.
You could make it from coal with processes know for over a 100 years.
Carbon dioxide can be sequestered and probably disposed of underground.

Nuclear is also a good way to go.

Of course conservation is important as is continuous improvement. Solar
cells keep getting more efficient.

My new Chevelle decades ago got 16 mpg on all highway driving but my new
Crosstrek today registers 33.5 mpg in all round driving.

There are inventions to be made, for example, room temperature
superconductivity would save a bundle of energy.

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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:09 UTC

On 4/29/22 13:26, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2022-04-29, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> That is how you tax the poor and fake like you are not.
>
> I'm in favor of higher taxes for the poor because they are the
> ones who require the most government support. Therefore logic
> dictates that they are the ones who should be paying for it.
>

Here is an idea. how about a Flat Tax. Or even
better yet, a Sale Tax.

A sales tax would also keep i people's mind what
they are paying, rather than only seeing it once a
year on their W2. "I am paying HOW MUCH EXTRA for
this candy bar FOR WHAT !?!?!"

For a Sales Tax to work would require we drop the
income tax, but that would never happen as politicians
would not let it go. There is no greed so pervasive
as government greed.

People that do not pay taxes should not be stating what
those that do should be paying. But ...

Flat Tax is probably the most workable idea. Politicians
will kick and scream on that one too. Can't buy favor,
etc..

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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:21 UTC

On 4/29/22 04:15, Frank wrote:
> On 4/28/2022 11:43 PM, T wrote:
>> On 4/28/22 20:31, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2022 10:51 PM, T wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was at a customer's site and read and article rfom some
>>>> retailkers association.  There explanation for inflation was rising
>>>> demand and lower availability.
>>>>
>>>> And you hear on American Pravda that is Trump, Putin,
>>>> etc..  E
>>>>
>>>> This is what causes inflation:
>>>>
>>>>       Liquidity exceed economic growth
>>>>
>>>> This means that amount of money floating around
>>>> out there in not backed by economic growth.  That
>>>> is all there is too it.
>>>>
>>>> And $1.9T this and that spending with no funding to
>>>> back it up except printing money is the cause of
>>>> inflation.  Not Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Inflation is a method of confiscating everyone's
>>>> savings and wealth and claiming they did not
>>>> raise taxes.  Gee Wiz, how did that happen.  Must
>>>> have been Putin.  Wait, it must have been Trump ...
>>>>
>>>> -T
>>>>
>>> Yes, I saw that exactly on CNN,  You must have missed it, they did a
>>> nice piece about it.
>>
>> Must not have gotten the talking points from the NYT.
>>
>> Did they blame Putin, Trump, everyone but the democrats
>> and their crazy spending?
>>
>
> Do not forget Biden's oil pipeline and land leasing closures.  Increased
> cost in fuel which is used in all market sectors cascaded inflation.
That is just stupidity on their part. Agenda over
the public interest.
>
> Coming out of the pandemic we did not need a huge influx of money into
> the economy.  The democrat cure to all problems is to spend more money.
The stimulus checks during the pandemic were funny
money, which outpaces economic growth. Had we
still had Trump in office, we would have had a
YUGE economic recovery and that extra funny money
would have been absorbed by economic growth.
One of the consequences of a stolen election.
His non compos mentis is trying to get us all to
buy $60,000+ rolling fire bombs. You know, the
ones with 1000 lb batteries than take 24 hours
to put out in case of a fire and that take
500,000 lbs of dirt to make one 1,000 lb battery.
They are oh so much NOT environmental friendly,
but their agenda says they are, so ...
I really do not think his fradulancy knows what
day it is or what planet he is on. He belongs
in a rest home. His handlers, on the other
hand, have an agenda that is very detrimental
to the public interest. If we can recover
our democracy next election, we can put them
out to pasture.
And if we can get rid of enough RINOs, we can
stop money the printing press!

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On 4/29/22 09:53, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 4:22 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>>> Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982
>>>
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10. Proving once again that stolen
>>> elections have consequences.
>>>
>>> Let's go Brandon!
>> No doubt Biden has a lot of blame for this.
>>
>> Gas prices were at a nadir when covid shut things down. Price got too
>> low for some oil producers and they shut down.
>>
>> In recovery from the virus prices were due to rise with increased demand
>> but adding to this were Biden's shutting down pipelines, stopping
>> federal land leases and increased regulation.
>>
>> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
>> years and pushing electric car production. Lot of places here and
>> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future. So why should oil
>> companies increase production.
>>
>> We are being crucified on the green cross and dems encourage it. They
>> blame Putin and oil company greed. Only stupid people believe this.
>
> Biden said U.S. military vehicles will run on batteries in the future during
> his Earth Day speech. Imagine a fighter jet being "refueled" during flight.

I hope he was just posturing for his lunatic base
and was not serious on the electric military
vehicle front. The idea is beyond stupid.

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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:26 UTC

On 4/29/22 12:26, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Only stupid people think it has nothing to do with it too.  There i a
> lot of blame in different areas.
Oh and nothing to do with a 1.9 T dollar pork barrel
bill that had virtually nothing to to with infrastructure
that was payed for by printing funny money not backed by
ANY gains in economic activity. Oh NONONONNO, NOTHING
AT ALL. CNN SAID SO!!!

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 by: Dean Hoffman - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:31 UTC

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 5:58:40 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 3:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
> >> years and pushing electric car production. Lot of places here and
> >> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future. So why should oil
> >> companies increase production.
> >
> > You bring up some interesting points.
> >
> > What do you think the future will be like. I'm talking 20, 30, 40 years
> > from now. The easy to get oil will be gone, the hard to get oil will
> > cost more to produce and eventually, there will be none.
> >
> > What would your plan be? Should we be looking at better ways to capture
> > solar? There is more solar energy on the earth every day that we can
> > possibly use. Should we be fixing the grid? Should we convert the auto
> > fleet to EV so the fuel left can be used in aircraft?
> >
> > Should we have a plan or just grab as much cheap gas now as we can get?
> > Is this just a fiscal situation or do we have a moral obligation to
> > consider the future?
> We will never run out of oil but it will continue to be more expensive.
> You could make it from coal with processes know for over a 100 years.
> Carbon dioxide can be sequestered and probably disposed of underground.
>
> Nuclear is also a good way to go.
>
> Of course conservation is important as is continuous improvement. Solar
> cells keep getting more efficient.
>
> My new Chevelle decades ago got 16 mpg on all highway driving but my new
> Crosstrek today registers 33.5 mpg in all round driving.
>
> There are inventions to be made, for example, room temperature
> superconductivity would save a bundle of energy.

Oil production is going down lately if this is right.
<https://dailycaller.com/2022/04/29/united-states-crude-oil-production-joe-biden/>

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 by: T - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:36 UTC

On 4/29/22 15:58, Frank wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 3:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
>>> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
>>> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
>>> companies increase production.
>>
>> You bring up some interesting points.
>>
>> What do you think the future will be like.  I'm talking 20, 30, 40
>> years from now.  The easy to get oil will be gone, the hard to get oil
>> will cost more to produce and eventually, there will be none.
>>
>> What would your plan be?  Should we be looking at better ways to
>> capture solar?  There is more solar energy on the earth every day that
>> we can possibly use.  Should we be fixing the grid?  Should we convert
>> the auto fleet to EV so the fuel left can be used in aircraft?
>>
>> Should we have a plan or just grab as much cheap gas now as we can
>> get? Is this just a fiscal situation or do we have a moral obligation
>> to consider the future?
>
> We will never run out of oil but it will continue to be more expensive.
>  You could make it from coal with processes know for over a 100 years.
> Carbon dioxide can be sequestered and probably disposed of underground.
>
> Nuclear is also a good way to go.
>
> Of course conservation is important as is continuous improvement.  Solar
> cells keep getting more efficient.
>
> My new Chevelle decades ago got 16 mpg on all highway driving but my new
> Crosstrek today registers 33.5 mpg in all round driving.
>
> There are inventions to be made, for example, room temperature
> superconductivity would save a bundle of energy.

Every time it is declared that oil will run out, we
strangely find more.
Me thinks that these new small nuclear reactors that
can not melt down and reuse their fuel is the way
to go. And they an be running constantly day and
night. When peak electricity is not in demand,
they can create hydrogen to heat our homes and
power our cars. (You can actually mix natural gas
and hydrogen too.)
And oil can be used for plastics, etc..
This cartoon makes a strong point. A liberal
without oil:
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/10/918/516/hypocrisy-exposed-.jpg

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On 4/29/22 12:26, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 4:22 PM, Pthirus Pubis wrote:
>>> Key Inflation Rate Surges to 6.6%, Highest Since 1982
>>>
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/04/29/personal-consumption-inflation-rate-surges-to-6-6-on-soaring-gas-40-year-high/
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump gas was $1.89, Biden gas is $4.10.  Proving once again that
>>> stolen elections have consequences.
>>>
>>> Let's go Brandon!
>>
>> No doubt Biden has a lot of blame for this.
>>
>> Gas prices were at a nadir when covid shut things down.  Price got too
>> low for some oil producers and they shut down.
>>
>> In recovery from the virus prices were due to rise with increased
>> demand but adding to this were Biden's shutting down pipelines,
>> stopping federal land leases and increased regulation.
>>
>> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
>> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
>> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
>> companies increase production.
>>
>> We are being crucified on the green cross and dems encourage it.  They
>> blame Putin and oil company greed.  Only stupid people believe this.
>
> Only stupid people think it has nothing to do with it too.  There i a
> lot of blame in different areas.
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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 23:55 UTC

On 4/29/2022 6:58 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 3:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 12:43 PM, Frank wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Add to this the mandate of demanding something like 49 mpg in a few
>>> years and pushing electric car production.  Lot of places here and
>>> abroad will not allow ICE cars in the future.  So why should oil
>>> companies increase production.
>>
>> You bring up some interesting points.
>>
>> What do you think the future will be like.  I'm talking 20, 30, 40
>> years from now.  The easy to get oil will be gone, the hard to get oil
>> will cost more to produce and eventually, there will be none.
>>
>> What would your plan be?  Should we be looking at better ways to
>> capture solar?  There is more solar energy on the earth every day that
>> we can possibly use.  Should we be fixing the grid?  Should we convert
>> the auto fleet to EV so the fuel left can be used in aircraft?
>>
>> Should we have a plan or just grab as much cheap gas now as we can
>> get? Is this just a fiscal situation or do we have a moral obligation
>> to consider the future?
>
> We will never run out of oil but it will continue to be more expensive.
>  You could make it from coal with processes know for over a 100 years.
> Carbon dioxide can be sequestered and probably disposed of underground.
>
> Nuclear is also a good way to go.
>
> Of course conservation is important as is continuous improvement.  Solar
> cells keep getting more efficient.
>
> My new Chevelle decades ago got 16 mpg on all highway driving but my new
> Crosstrek today registers 33.5 mpg in all round driving.
>
> There are inventions to be made, for example, room temperature
> superconductivity would save a bundle of energy.

Never? The Petroleum Institute would not agree

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/how-long-fossil-fuels-last-43432/

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=38&t=6

In any case it will get more expensive Right now, EVs have issues but
they will improve and become much more practical so we have to start
doing something to wean oil use. If it was easy to make it from coal
we'd be doing it already

It' been fun but time to get serious about the future. I have great
grandchildren.

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