On 20 Dec 2022 19:07:11 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2022-12-19, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you think that Joe Biden sets gas prices? Seek help.
>
>
>If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
>fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
>The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
>aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!

What was it called again when you only see the facts that confirm your
existing opinion and ignore all the contradicting facts? Confirmation
bias? Tunnel vision?

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

On 12/20/2022 2:07 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2022-12-19, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you think that Joe Biden sets gas prices? Seek help.
>
>
> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!

Biden has a lot of power. He increased gas prices in Canada and Europe
too, as well as inflation over there.

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 14:22:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 12/20/2022 2:07 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2022-12-19, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think that Joe Biden sets gas prices? Seek help.
>>
>>
>> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
>> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
>> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
>> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!
>
>
>Biden has a lot of power. He increased gas prices in Canada and Europe
>too, as well as inflation over there.

And the price of beer and liquor is awfully high in Australia. I hold
that against Biden the most!

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

On 20/12/2022 19:22, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/20/2022 2:07 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2022-12-19, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think that Joe Biden sets gas prices?  Seek help.
>>
>>
>> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
>> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
>> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
>> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!
>
>
> Biden has a lot of power.  He increased gas prices in Canada and Europe
> too, as well as inflation over there.

Yes, he's even _more_ powerful in Europe than in the US!
My UK energy costs have gone up much more than my US ones.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote :

> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!

For an interesting read, that you won't hear about from maim stream
media,
"Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil,
Coal, and Natural Gas--Not Less" by Alex Epstein.

---summary---
The New York Times bestselling author of The Moral Case for Fossil
Fuels draws on the latest data and new insights to challenge
everything you thought you knew about the future of energy
And contrary to what we hear from media experts about todays renewable
revolution and climate emergency, reality has proven Epstein right:
Fact: Fossil fuels are still the dominant source of energy around
the world, and growing fastwhile much-hyped renewables are causing
skyrocketing electricity prices and increased blackouts.

Fact: Fossil-fueled development has brought global poverty to an
all-time low.

Fact: While fossil fuels have contributed to the 1 degree of warming
in the last 170 years, climate-related deaths are at all-time lows
thanks to fossil-fueled development.

Deeply researched and wide-ranging, this book will cause you to
rethink everything you thought you knew about the future of our energy
use, our environment, and our climate.
---summary---

Get it from your local library, curl up in a warm sleeping bag and
read, while playing like you're in Germany waiting for the coal fired
electricity to kick in.

--
After a certain age, your body is like a garage sale . . .
some stuff looks old, some stuff doesn't work
and some stuff you can't even identify.

On 12/20/2022 5:47 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote :
>
>> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
>> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
>> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
>> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!
>
> For an interesting read, that you won't hear about from maim stream
> media,
> "Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil,
> Coal, and Natural Gas--Not Less" by Alex Epstein.
>
> ---summary---
> The New York Times bestselling author of The Moral Case for Fossil
> Fuels draws on the latest data and new insights to challenge
> everything you thought you knew about the future of energy
>
> And contrary to what we hear from media experts about todays renewable
> revolution and climate emergency, reality has proven Epstein right:
>
> Fact: Fossil fuels are still the dominant source of energy around
> the world, and growing fastwhile much-hyped renewables are causing
> skyrocketing electricity prices and increased blackouts.
>
> Fact: Fossil-fueled development has brought global poverty to an
> all-time low.
>
> Fact: While fossil fuels have contributed to the 1 degree of warming
> in the last 170 years, climate-related deaths are at all-time lows
> thanks to fossil-fueled development.
>
> Deeply researched and wide-ranging, this book will cause you to
> rethink everything you thought you knew about the future of our energy
> use, our environment, and our climate.
> ---summary---
>
> Get it from your local library, curl up in a warm sleeping bag and
> read, while playing like you're in Germany waiting for the coal fired
> electricity to kick in.
>

I agree with what you wrote. Fossil fuel has been great for humans in
the past 100 years or so.

You are though, leaving out some important information. Fossil fuels
are finite. Over time they will be harder to find, more expensive to
obtain and will even run out.

Now is the time to figure out the alternatives. Did you know that in one
day the sun puts enough energy on the earth to meet out needs for a
year. Seems smart it figure out how to capture some of it.

On 2022-12-21, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 12/20/2022 5:47 PM, heyjoe wrote:
>> Leonard Blaisdell wrote :
>>
>>> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
>>> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
>>> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
>>> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!
>>
>> For an interesting read, that you won't hear about from maim stream
>> media,
>> "Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil,
>> Coal, and Natural Gas--Not Less" by Alex Epstein.
>>
>> ---summary---
>> The New York Times bestselling author of The Moral Case for Fossil
>> Fuels draws on the latest data and new insights to challenge
>> everything you thought you knew about the future of energy
>>
>> And contrary to what we hear from media experts about todays renewable
>> revolution and climate emergency, reality has proven Epstein right:
>>
>> Fact: Fossil fuels are still the dominant source of energy around
>> the world, and growing fastwhile much-hyped renewables are causing
>> skyrocketing electricity prices and increased blackouts.
>>
>> Fact: Fossil-fueled development has brought global poverty to an
>> all-time low.
>>
>> Fact: While fossil fuels have contributed to the 1 degree of warming
>> in the last 170 years, climate-related deaths are at all-time lows
>> thanks to fossil-fueled development.
>>
>> Deeply researched and wide-ranging, this book will cause you to
>> rethink everything you thought you knew about the future of our energy
>> use, our environment, and our climate.
>> ---summary---
>>
>> Get it from your local library, curl up in a warm sleeping bag and
>> read, while playing like you're in Germany waiting for the coal fired
>> electricity to kick in.
>>
>
> I agree with what you wrote. Fossil fuel has been great for humans in
> the past 100 years or so.
>
> You are though, leaving out some important information. Fossil fuels
> are finite. Over time they will be harder to find, more expensive to
> obtain and will even run out.
>
> Now is the time to figure out the alternatives. Did you know that in one
> day the sun puts enough energy on the earth to meet out needs for a
> year. Seems smart it figure out how to capture some of it.

Here's a book that presents what I feel is a more realistic
view of the future of resource usage by Homo sapiens:

More from Less: The Surprising Story of How We Learned to Prosper
Using Fewer Resources—and What Happens Next

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P5GPMTY

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 12/21/2022 4:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-12-21, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>> On 12/20/2022 5:47 PM, heyjoe wrote:
>>> Leonard Blaisdell wrote :
>>>
>>>> If you think that an anti-fossil-fuel administration doesn't increase
>>>> fossil fuel prices by their regulatory actions, seek help.
>>>> The good news is that Biden drained our national petroleum reserve to
>>>> aid his party in the mid-terms. What a guy!
>>>
>>> For an interesting read, that you won't hear about from maim stream
>>> media,
>>> "Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil,
>>> Coal, and Natural Gas--Not Less" by Alex Epstein.
>>>
>>> ---summary---
>>> The New York Times bestselling author of The Moral Case for Fossil
>>> Fuels draws on the latest data and new insights to challenge
>>> everything you thought you knew about the future of energy
>>>
>>> And contrary to what we hear from media experts about todays renewable
>>> revolution and climate emergency, reality has proven Epstein right:
>>>
>>> Fact: Fossil fuels are still the dominant source of energy around
>>> the world, and growing fastwhile much-hyped renewables are causing
>>> skyrocketing electricity prices and increased blackouts.
>>>
>>> Fact: Fossil-fueled development has brought global poverty to an
>>> all-time low.
>>>
>>> Fact: While fossil fuels have contributed to the 1 degree of warming
>>> in the last 170 years, climate-related deaths are at all-time lows
>>> thanks to fossil-fueled development.
>>>
>>> Deeply researched and wide-ranging, this book will cause you to
>>> rethink everything you thought you knew about the future of our energy
>>> use, our environment, and our climate.
>>> ---summary---
>>>
>>> Get it from your local library, curl up in a warm sleeping bag and
>>> read, while playing like you're in Germany waiting for the coal fired
>>> electricity to kick in.
>>>
>>
>> I agree with what you wrote. Fossil fuel has been great for humans in
>> the past 100 years or so.
>>
>> You are though, leaving out some important information. Fossil fuels
>> are finite. Over time they will be harder to find, more expensive to
>> obtain and will even run out.
>>
>> Now is the time to figure out the alternatives. Did you know that in one
>> day the sun puts enough energy on the earth to meet out needs for a
>> year. Seems smart it figure out how to capture some of it.
>
> Here's a book that presents what I feel is a more realistic
> view of the future of resource usage by Homo sapiens:
>
> More from Less: The Surprising Story of How We Learned to Prosper
> Using Fewer Resources—and What Happens Next
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P5GPMTY
>

Nah, it probably loaded with FACTS and confuses people.

On 2022-12-20, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> What was it called again when you only see the facts that confirm your
> existing opinion and ignore all the contradicting facts? Confirmation
> bias? Tunnel vision?

I don't know, but you should write a book on it. You're an expert.