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 by: rbowman - Sat, 7 May 2022 02:05 UTC

On 05/06/2022 07:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 7:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 05/06/2022 05:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he is
>>>> not
>>>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then the
>>>> economy
>>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
>>>> Ukraine.
>>>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
>>>> pipeline, trying to kill
>>>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
>>>> be calling
>>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
>>>> increase
>>>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
>>>> that wants
>>>> $7 gasoline.
>>>
>>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
>>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>>>
>>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
>>> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has little
>>> to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
>>
>> No, the hysterical response to covid by our 'leaders' did.
>
>
> Good point. Who was president when it started?

Trump made very may bad decisions, most involving personnel. Fauci
should never have been let near a microphone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Coronavirus_Task_Force

Several other members of the task force were suspect. However much of it
was beyond Trump's control. He didn't issue the mandates that turned NYC
into a ghost town or the regulations that tied up California ports.

I believe as much decision making as possible should occur at the state
level. Sometimes it comes back to bite me on the ass but I prefer to
maintain consistency rather than picking and choosing which areas can be
controlled by a federal mandate like the Biden administration's Hail
Mary of trying to get OSHA to mandate vaccinations.

If Cuomo or Newsom want to destroy their states that's up to the
residents of those states to fix the problem. Unfortunately CA keeps
sending Pelosi, Schiff, and the senile Feinstein back to DC, and NY
sends Schumer and AOC, and so forth.

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Sat, 7 May 2022 03:44 UTC

On 5/6/2022 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote:

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> If Cuomo or Newsom want to destroy their states that's up to the
> residents of those states to fix the problem. Unfortunately CA keeps
> sending Pelosi, Schiff, and the senile Feinstein back to DC, and NY
> sends Schumer and AOC, and so forth.

Good point. We should go back to 48 states. I know what 2 to eliminate.

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 by: rbowman - Sat, 7 May 2022 04:33 UTC

On 05/06/2022 09:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote:
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>> If Cuomo or Newsom want to destroy their states that's up to the
>> residents of those states to fix the problem. Unfortunately CA keeps
>> sending Pelosi, Schiff, and the senile Feinstein back to DC, and NY
>> sends Schumer and AOC, and so forth.
>
> Good point. We should go back to 48 states. I know what 2 to eliminate.

Give Hawaii back to the natives? What would we do without Mazie Hirono?

"Senator Mazie Hirono @maziehirono
I can’t think of a single comparable thing that the government can do to
men that even comes close to forcing a woman to have a child.
Can you?"

The government handed out a lot of free vacations in Southeast Asia,
Mazie. There's a wall in Washington with over 58,000 names of people who
might not have really wanted to die for a mistake.

She can even outdo Sheila Jackson Lee for stupid.

Giving California back to Mexico would also be good. It's halfway there
anyway.

It would be even better to go back to the original 13; the rest of us
will work something out.

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On Fri, 6 May 2022 23:44:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 5/6/2022 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote:
>
>>
>> If Cuomo or Newsom want to destroy their states that's up to the
>> residents of those states to fix the problem. Unfortunately CA keeps
>> sending Pelosi, Schiff, and the senile Feinstein back to DC, and NY
>> sends Schumer and AOC, and so forth.
>
>Good point. We should go back to 48 states. I know what 2 to eliminate.

If it's only 2, then it's Florida and Texas, obviously, but is it really
limited to only 2?

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On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he is
> >> not
> >> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then the
> >> economy
> >> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
> >> Ukraine.
> >> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
> >> pipeline, trying to kill
> >> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
> >> be calling
> >> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
> >> increase
> >> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
> >> that wants
> >> $7 gasoline.
> >
> > Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
> > Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
> >
> > My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
> > production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has little
> > to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are up
> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want to
> change anything?

Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms, Obama's terms.
They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are supposed to do,
maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green light, the libs
want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL, trying to kill another one,
being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message, the markets around
the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that is friendly to the
oil business, not at war with it.

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On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:21:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/6/2022 8:36 PM, Bob F wrote:
> > On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he
> >>> is not
> >>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then
> >>> the economy
> >>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
> >>> Ukraine.
> >>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
> >>> pipeline, trying to kill
> >>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
> >>> be calling
> >>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
> >>> increase
> >>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
> >>> that wants
> >>> $7 gasoline.
> >>
> >> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
> >> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
> >>
> >> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
> >> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has
> >> little to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
> >
> > Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are up
> > WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want to
> > change anything?
> >
> Simple. They are nice people and care about you and me.
>
> They are making up for when oil was dirt cheap and they could not get
> rid of it. Good explanation on that series, Out of Stock.

That's true and Biden and the libs gave them cover for it. They want gas at $7
so that people will use less of it. And the world knows Biden is weak and feeble.
If we had a strong president, they could effectively twist the arms of oil producers
to get production up. Biden doesn't know whether to shit or go blind. If he gets them
to increase production, isn't that bad, it's going to ruin the environment? The libs
would rather ruin the economy.

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On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:56:23 PM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
> On 05/06/2022 07:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/6/2022 7:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
> >> On 05/06/2022 05:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he is
> >>>> not
> >>>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then the
> >>>> economy
> >>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
> >>>> Ukraine.
> >>>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
> >>>> pipeline, trying to kill
> >>>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
> >>>> be calling
> >>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
> >>>> increase
> >>>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
> >>>> that wants
> >>>> $7 gasoline.
> >>>
> >>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
> >>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
> >>>
> >>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
> >>> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has little
> >>> to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
> >>
> >> No, the hysterical response to covid by our 'leaders' did.
> >
> >
> > Good point. Who was president when it started?
> Trump made very may bad decisions, most involving personnel. Fauci
> should never have been let near a microphone.

Right. He picked people who were the very best, exceptional, brilliant
people. Then when they were loyal to the Constitution and country instead
of blindly doing Trump's crazy and llegal bidding, they were suddenly no
good bums. Poor widdle Trump, he's always in trouble and it's someone
else's fault. We just learned from Dan Espen that Trump wanted to launch
missiles against Mexico to attack drug cartels and claimed that no one
would know who did it, we could just lie.

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On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he is
>> >> not
>> >> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then the
>> >> economy
>> >> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
>> >> Ukraine.
>> >> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
>> >> pipeline, trying to kill
>> >> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
>> >> be calling
>> >> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
>> >> increase
>> >> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
>> >> that wants
>> >> $7 gasoline.
>> >
>> > Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
>> > Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>> >
>> > My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
>> > production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has little
>> > to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
>> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are up
>> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want to
>> change anything?
>
> Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms, Obama's terms.

Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term? Ok, Trump,
but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.

> They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are supposed to do,
> maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green light, the libs
> want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL, trying to kill another one,
> being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message, the markets around
> the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that is friendly to the
> oil business, not at war with it.

Ok, what do you want Biden to do? Put the XL pipeline back on? Do you
think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil? Biden has already expanded
drilling permits on public land. It's up to the oil drillers and all
the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
will be forthcoming and the price will drop.

What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have? Can Biden
magick oil out of thin air?

--
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On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 8:36:39 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
> >> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> > On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he is
> >> >> not
> >> >> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then the
> >> >> economy
> >> >> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
> >> >> Ukraine.
> >> >> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
> >> >> pipeline, trying to kill
> >> >> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
> >> >> be calling
> >> >> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
> >> >> increase
> >> >> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
> >> >> that wants
> >> >> $7 gasoline.
> >> >
> >> > Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
> >> > Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
> >> >
> >> > My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
> >> > production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has little
> >> > to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
> >> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are up
> >> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want to
> >> change anything?
> >
> > Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms, Obama's terms.
> Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term? Ok, Trump,
> but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.

That's irrelevant to his claim. He's sayng that oil prices and profits are
suddenly higher, implying it's corporate greed. Why wouldn't those same
companies have done the same thing during all the other administrations?
The pandemic didn't push up the price of oil. Oil production went down
because demand went down. The question is why oil production hasn't
rebounded by now to pre-Covid levels and I suspect the oil companies are
making up for some lost profits and also screwing Biden, because he's
anti-oil. It's like when we got rid of crazy Carter, all his anti-oil BS, his
excise profit tax. As soon as Reagan with a let's get that oil going came
into office, it immediately reversed. Dopey Biden could send a powerful
message, come out make a speech that we're in a crisis and for the short
term we are in crisis and need more oil. He could say that he's opening up
more areas to drilling, that he's going to reverse his despicable screwing of
the XL pipeline investors. I mean, having watched those poor bastards get
screwed out of billions by Biden, why would anyone invest money into oil
knowing the same thing can happen to them.

> > They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are supposed to do,
> > maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green light, the libs
> > want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL, trying to kill another one,
> > being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message, the markets around
> > the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that is friendly to the
> > oil business, not at war with it.
> Ok, what do you want Biden to do? Put the XL pipeline back on? Do you
> think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil?

The worldwide markets do care, they see what's going on. OPEC kept
prices low for years because they wanted to keep new US producers
out of the market because they couldn't make a profit at those lower prices.
Oil prices started to rise as soon as Biden killed XL. Futures markets
know he's anti-oil and that the libs want $7 gas, so they helped give them
what they want.

Biden has already expanded
> drilling permits on public land. It's up to the oil drillers and all
> the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
> will be forthcoming and the price will drop.

Right, like the XL investors. And apparently the Biden expanded permits
was short lived:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/15/drilling-permits-spiked-then-plunged-under-biden-00016814

"Drilling permits spiked then plunged under Biden
The number of oil and gas permits approved by the Bureau of Land Management for drilling on public lands declined to its lowest number under the Biden administration in January."

And it's not just the initial permits, it's actually getting through all the other
EPA and similar quagmire. Do you think the libs are going to expedite that
like Trump or a Republican would?

>
> What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have? Can Biden
> magick oil out of thin air?
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

The Russians will probably keep selling most of that oil anyway. India,
China, third world countries. And yes Biden could pull some oil and a
signal a change in direction by giving that speech and reversing his
XL screwing. He could announce that he's bringing the oil execs to DC,
not to crucify them in front of Congress but to find out what they need
to get oil ramped up as fast as possible. What regulations need to be
relaxed, what the govt can do to HELP, instead of claiming they are evil.
But Biden is a coward and won't stand up to the radicals in his base or
he really wants $7 gas too, which would not surprise me. I mean look
at what the fool is doing at the border, it's another cluster fuck and it's
for the same reason. Either Biden has gone AOC crazy or he's in such
fear of them that he won't stand up to them.

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trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> writes:
>On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:21:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> >
>> > Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are up
>> > WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want to
>> > change anything?
>> >
>> Simple. They are nice people and care about you and me.
>>
>> They are making up for when oil was dirt cheap and they could not get
>> rid of it. Good explanation on that series, Out of Stock.
>
>That's true and Biden and the libs gave them cover for it. They want gas at $7
>so that people will use less of it.

No, that's not true. What I fully expect is that gas prices
will follow the standard scarcity curve (which will become exponential
over time). Normal inflation would have gas prices at $3.00+/gallon today
(given the $1.70/gal in the year 2000) per the CPI inflation calculator.

It's a bit higher now due to:
1) Russian invading Ukraine
2) Supply side constraints due to the pandemic.
3) Economy picking up after the pandemic and getting
ahead of production.
4) and yes, windfall profits for the oil sector.

It's a fact, not speculation, that the small amount of oil
available from the Canadian tar sands wouldn't matter to
the price of oil, even if the super-expensive pipeline had
been built by now (and the 16 months since Mr Biden took office
isn't time enough for a any change introduced by congress (oops,
congress has done _nothing_ in the last 16 months) to have any
effect.

Congress is supposed to make laws, the president either signs
them or vetos them. The president doesn't make laws.

> And the world knows Biden is weak and feeble.

No, they don't. Nor do you, even while you repeat such nonsense.

>If we had a strong president, they could effectively twist the arms of oil producers
>to get production up.

Sure, a dictator can do that. A president (other than your ex-buddy Trump)
neither can, nor should. And please, which oil producers would you expect him
to twist? What's involved in increasing production? How long a lead time
does it take to drill a new well in a mainly depleated oil field? Even fracking
is just a band-aid to the fact that oil production worldwide has been sliding
for over half a century (leaving aside the temporary fracking blip).

"His assumption turned out to be true, and oil production in the United
States peaked in 1971 (it boomed again in the 2010s because of oil
shale technology)."

Fundamentally, it is a limited resource and it needs to be replaced by
a sustainable resource while we still have the energy to create and
build the replacement technologies.

The key phrase is Energy Returned on Energy Invested. When the
first oil wells were drilled, the energy in a barrel of oil produced
100 barrels of oil. Conventional oil (what little that remains
underground) current sits at 18(US)-40(Arabia). Oil sands are somewhere around
5. Shale oil harvesting is about 1.4-1.5. If it drops below 1,
it will take more oil than you get to extract it, you should be
able to see that this doesn't work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_return_on_investment

Of course, this leads to a bit of a trap - given the amount
of energy required to create the replacement technologies
(synthetic fuels, storage technologies, nuclear plants,
wind farms, solar panels, new hydro, etc.)

https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/10/the-energy-trap/

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 9 May 2022 19:47 UTC

On 5/9/2022 5:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he is
>>>>> not
>>>>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then the
>>>>> economy
>>>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion of
>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the XL
>>>>> pipeline, trying to kill
>>>>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
>>>>> be calling
>>>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
>>>>> increase
>>>>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
>>>>> that wants
>>>>> $7 gasoline.
>>>>
>>>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is on
>>>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>>>>
>>>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
>>>> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has little
>>>> to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
>>> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are up
>>> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want to
>>> change anything?
>>
>> Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms, Obama's terms.
>
> Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term? Ok, Trump,
> but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.
>
>
>> They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are supposed to do,
>> maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green light, the libs
>> want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL, trying to kill another one,
>> being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message, the markets around
>> the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that is friendly to the
>> oil business, not at war with it.
>
> Ok, what do you want Biden to do? Put the XL pipeline back on? Do you
> think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil? Biden has already expanded
> drilling permits on public land. It's up to the oil drillers and all
> the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
> will be forthcoming and the price will drop.
>
> What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have? Can Biden
> magick oil out of thin air?
>

Those wonderful cheap oil prices the righties are raving about were
exactly the reason the oil prices are high now. New oil production cost
more than the low prices they could get, so producers could not get
loans to create new wells. ....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/30/oil-rig-closures-rising-as-prices-hit-18-year-lows-due-to-coronavirus

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 9 May 2022 20:53 UTC

On Tue, 10 May 2022 05:47:42 +1000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/9/2022 5:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> economy
>>>>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the
>>>>>> XL
>>>>>> pipeline, trying to kill
>>>>>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
>>>>>> be calling
>>>>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
>>>>>> increase
>>>>>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
>>>>>> that wants
>>>>>> $7 gasoline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is
>>>>> on
>>>>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>>>>>
>>>>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
>>>>> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has
>>>>> little
>>>>> to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
>>>> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are
>>>> up
>>>> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want
>>>> to
>>>> change anything?
>>>
>>> Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms,
>>> Obama's terms.
>> Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term? Ok, Trump,
>> but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.
>>
>>> They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are
>>> supposed to do,
>>> maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green
>>> light, the libs
>>> want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL, trying
>>> to kill another one,
>>> being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message, the
>>> markets around
>>> the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that is
>>> friendly to the
>>> oil business, not at war with it.
>> Ok, what do you want Biden to do? Put the XL pipeline back on? Do you
>> think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil? Biden has already
>> expanded
>> drilling permits on public land. It's up to the oil drillers and all
>> the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
>> will be forthcoming and the price will drop.
>> What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have? Can
>> Biden
>> magick oil out of thin air?
>>
>
> Those wonderful cheap oil prices the righties are raving about were
> exactly the reason the oil prices are high now. New oil production cost
> more than the low prices they could get, so producers could not get
> loans to create new wells. ....

The majors don't finance new wells with loans.

> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/30/oil-rig-closures-rising-as-prices-hit-18-year-lows-due-to-coronavirus

Just because some fool journo claims something...

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 by: Karen - Mon, 9 May 2022 21:28 UTC

Bidenomics in Action:

Gas Prices Reach All-Time High on Monday — Up 20 Cents in One Week and DOUBLE the Price Since 2020 Election

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/bidenomics-action-gas-prices-reach-time-high-monday-20-cents-one-week-double-price-since-2020-election/

What I wouldn't give for some $1.89 gasoline and some brutally honest tweets!

If we can defeat the crooked voting machines and the 2000 Mules, Trump will return in 2024!

Re: repubs reject their QAnon bosses?

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 by: Fred - Mon, 9 May 2022 21:47 UTC

On Tue, 10 May 2022 05:47:42 +1000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/9/2022 5:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but he
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid, then
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> economy
>>>>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia invasion
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing the
>>>>>> XL
>>>>>> pipeline, trying to kill
>>>>>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he should
>>>>>> be calling
>>>>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
>>>>>> increase
>>>>>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
>>>>>> that wants
>>>>>> $7 gasoline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It is
>>>>> on
>>>>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>>>>>
>>>>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
>>>>> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has
>>>>> little
>>>>> to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
>>>> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits are
>>>> up
>>>> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations want
>>>> to
>>>> change anything?
>>>
>>> Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms,
>>> Obama's terms.
>> Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term? Ok, Trump,
>> but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.
>>
>>> They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are
>>> supposed to do,
>>> maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green
>>> light, the libs
>>> want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL, trying
>>> to kill another one,
>>> being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message, the
>>> markets around
>>> the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that is
>>> friendly to the
>>> oil business, not at war with it.
>> Ok, what do you want Biden to do? Put the XL pipeline back on? Do you
>> think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil? Biden has already
>> expanded
>> drilling permits on public land. It's up to the oil drillers and all
>> the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
>> will be forthcoming and the price will drop.
>> What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have? Can
>> Biden
>> magick oil out of thin air?
>>
>
> Those wonderful cheap oil prices the righties are raving about were
> exactly the reason the oil prices are high now. New oil production cost
> more than the low prices they could get, so producers could not get
> loans to create new wells. ....

The majors don't finance new wells with loans.

> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/30/oil-rig-closures-rising-as-prices-hit-18-year-lows-due-to-coronavirus

Just because some fool journo claims something...

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 9 May 2022 22:22 UTC

On 5/9/2022 2:47 PM, Fred wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2022 05:47:42 +1000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/9/2022 5:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but
>>>>>>> he is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> the only factor.  We had oil production decline due to Covid,
>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>> economy
>>>>>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia
>>>>>>> invasion of
>>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>>>    Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing
>>>>>>> the XL
>>>>>>> pipeline, trying to kill
>>>>>>> another one.  That sent a message to the oil markets.  And he should
>>>>>>> be calling
>>>>>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do to
>>>>>>> increase
>>>>>>> oil supply.   But he won't because he's given in to the radical left
>>>>>>> that wants
>>>>>>> $7 gasoline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock?  Explains it well. It
>>>>>> is on
>>>>>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now.  Increase
>>>>>> production?  Nah, no reason too.   Reality is, the president has
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> to do with the price of gas, up or down.  Covid sure did.
>>>>> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits
>>>>> are up
>>>>> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations
>>>>> want to
>>>>> change anything?
>>>>
>>>> Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms,
>>>> Obama's terms.
>>>  Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term?  Ok, Trump,
>>> but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.
>>>
>>>> They just suddenly got greedy now?  That's what corporations are
>>>> supposed to do,
>>>> maximize profits.   One key difference is Biden gave them the green
>>>> light, the libs
>>>> want $7 gas.  And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL,
>>>> trying to kill another one,
>>>> being hostile to the oil industry.   When you send out a message,
>>>> the markets around
>>>> the world listen and react.  We need a president and Congress that
>>>> is friendly to the
>>>> oil business, not at war with it.
>>>  Ok, what do you want Biden to do?  Put the XL pipeline back on?  Do you
>>> think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil?  Biden has already
>>> expanded
>>> drilling permits on public land.  It's up to the oil drillers and all
>>> the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
>>> will be forthcoming and the price will drop.
>>>  What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have?  Can
>>> Biden
>>> magick oil out of thin air?
>>>
>>
>> Those wonderful cheap oil prices the righties are raving about were
>> exactly the reason the oil prices are high now. New oil production
>> cost more than the low prices they could get, so producers could not
>> get loans to create new wells. ....
>
> The majors don't finance new wells with loans.
>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/30/oil-rig-closures-rising-as-prices-hit-18-year-lows-due-to-coronavirus
>>
>
> Just because some fool journo claims something...

Just because to have a nonsense claim you cannot back up?

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 by: Fred - Tue, 10 May 2022 01:01 UTC

On Tue, 10 May 2022 08:22:42 +1000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/9/2022 2:47 PM, Fred wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 05:47:42 +1000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/2022 5:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-09, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:37:04 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2022 4:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/6/2022 6:07 PM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree Biden bears some of the blame for the higher prices, but
>>>>>>>> he is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> the only factor. We had oil production decline due to Covid,
>>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>>> economy
>>>>>>>> resurgence increasing worldwide demand and now the Russia
>>>>>>>> invasion of
>>>>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>>>>> Biden deserves blame for vilifying the oil industry, killing
>>>>>>>> the XL
>>>>>>>> pipeline, trying to kill
>>>>>>>> another one. That sent a message to the oil markets. And he
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be calling
>>>>>>>> the oil execs to the WH, meeting with them, asking what he can do
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> increase
>>>>>>>> oil supply. But he won't because he's given in to the radical
>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>> that wants
>>>>>>>> $7 gasoline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you ee any of the series Out of Stock? Explains it well. It
>>>>>>> is on
>>>>>>> Discovery+ and probably your cable company "on demand"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My take on it, the oil companies are happy right now. Increase
>>>>>>> production? Nah, no reason too. Reality is, the president has
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> to do with the price of gas, up or down. Covid sure did.
>>>>>> Funny how gas prices are higher and fossil fuel corporate profits
>>>>>> are up
>>>>>> WAY more than gas prices. Record profits! Why would corporations
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> change anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny how that didn't happen during Trump's terms, Bush's terms,
>>>>> Obama's terms.
>>>> Which of those presidents had a pandemic during their term? Ok,
>>>> Trump,
>>>> but he skated on most of that, leaving a mess for Biden.
>>>>
>>>>> They just suddenly got greedy now? That's what corporations are
>>>>> supposed to do,
>>>>> maximize profits. One key difference is Biden gave them the green
>>>>> light, the libs
>>>>> want $7 gas. And he signaled that to the markets, killing XL,
>>>>> trying to kill another one,
>>>>> being hostile to the oil industry. When you send out a message,
>>>>> the markets around
>>>>> the world listen and react. We need a president and Congress that
>>>>> is friendly to the
>>>>> oil business, not at war with it.
>>>> Ok, what do you want Biden to do? Put the XL pipeline back on? Do
>>>> you
>>>> think OPEC cares about Canadian tar sands oil? Biden has already
>>>> expanded
>>>> drilling permits on public land. It's up to the oil drillers and all
>>>> the follow-on businesses (refining, trucking, etc.) whether more fuel
>>>> will be forthcoming and the price will drop.
>>>> What effect do you think an EU ban on Russian oil might have? Can
>>>> Biden
>>>> magick oil out of thin air?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Those wonderful cheap oil prices the righties are raving about were
>>> exactly the reason the oil prices are high now. New oil production
>>> cost more than the low prices they could get, so producers could not
>>> get loans to create new wells. ....
>> The majors don't finance new wells with loans.
>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/30/oil-rig-closures-rising-as-prices-hit-18-year-lows-due-to-coronavirus
>> Just because some fool journo claims something...
>
> Just because to have a nonsense claim you cannot back up?

It is completely trivial to check the balance sheets of the majors,
fuckwit.

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 by: Annie Vaxxer - Wed, 11 May 2022 22:32 UTC

CDC Study finds Covid-19 Vaccination increases risk of suffering Autoimmune Disease Myocarditis by 13,200%

https://prepareforchange.net/2022/05/10/cdc-study-finds-covid-19-vaccination-increases-risk-of-suffering-autoimmune-disease-myocarditis-by-13200/

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 11 May 2022 22:38 UTC

On Thu, 12 May 2022 08:32:44 +1000, Annie Vaxxer
<annie.vaxxer@still-standing.ha> wrote:

>
> CDC Study finds Covid-19 Vaccination increases risk of suffering
> Autoimmune Disease Myocarditis by 13,200%
>
> https://prepareforchange.net/2022/05/10/cdc-study-finds-covid-19-vaccination-increases-risk-of-suffering-autoimmune-disease-myocarditis-by-13200/

What those fools don't tell you is that that doesn't kill you when that
is caused by an mRNA vaccine and that covid has already killed
something like 10M people.

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 by: lacksey - Wed, 11 May 2022 22:49 UTC

On Thu, 12 May 2022 08:38:18 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
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> On Thu, 12 May 2022 08:32:44 +1000, Annie Vaxxer
> <annie.vaxxer@still-standing.ha> wrote:
>
>>
>> CDC Study finds Covid-19 Vaccination increases risk of suffering
>> Autoimmune Disease Myocarditis by 13,200%
>>
>> https://prepareforchange.net/2022/05/10/cdc-study-finds-covid-19-vaccination-increases-risk-of-suffering-autoimmune-disease-myocarditis-by-13200/
>
> What those fools don't tell you is that that doesn't kill you when that
> is caused by an mRNA vaccine and that covid has already killed
> something like 10M people.

But you should stop pointing that out so that more stupid antivaxers end
up dead.

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 by: Randy Patzkowski - Wed, 11 May 2022 23:58 UTC

On 5/11/2022 6:38:18 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2022 08:32:44 +1000, Annie Vaxxer <annie.vaxxer@still-standing.ha> wrote:
>
>>
>> CDC Study finds Covid-19 Vaccination increases risk of suffering Autoimmune Disease Myocarditis by 13,200%
>>
>> https://prepareforchange.net/2022/05/10/cdc-study-finds-covid-19-vaccination-increases-risk-of-suffering-autoimmune-disease-myocarditis-by-13200/
>
> What those fools don't tell you is that that doesn't kill you when that
> is caused by an mRNA vaccine and that covid has already killed
> something like 10M people.

I have natural immunity so don't need to worry about the Fauci-19 virus or the depop clot-shots.

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 by: Karen - Thu, 12 May 2022 11:49 UTC

On 5/11/2022 11:58:43 PM, Randy Patzkowski wrote:
> On 5/11/2022 6:38:18 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 May 2022 08:32:44 +1000, Annie Vaxxer <annie.vaxxer@still-standing.ha> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> CDC Study finds Covid-19 Vaccination increases risk of suffering Autoimmune Disease Myocarditis by 13,200%
>>>
>>> https://prepareforchange.net/2022/05/10/cdc-study-finds-covid-19-vaccination-increases-risk-of-suffering-autoimmune-disease-myocarditis-by-13200/
>>
>> What those fools don't tell you is that that doesn't kill you when that
>> is caused by an mRNA vaccine and that covid has already killed
>> something like 10M people.
>
>
> I have natural immunity so don't need to worry about the Fauci-19 virus or the depop clot-shots.

Fraudci is a deranged criminal. Sure glad I wasn't duped into taking the Fraudci-Fizer slab jab.
As the baby-killin' democrats say, "My Body, My Choice"!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci-collins-shared-in-secret-nih-royalties-totaling-350m-watchdog-report

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