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* OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberMarilyn Manson
+* OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberEd Pawlowski
|+- OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberMarilyn Manson
|`- OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberMark Lloyd
`* OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberDean Hoffman
 `* OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberFrank
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   `* OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberFrank
    `* OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local NumberMarilyn Manson
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Subject: OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local Number
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 by: Marilyn Manson - Tue, 10 May 2022 19:12 UTC

Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
while attempting to make the connection.

Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
by the resulting "caller-id".

755-xxxx Russia
323-xxxx Belgium
972-xxxx Israel
264-xxxx Namibia
266-xxxx Lesotho
636-xxxx Philippines
922-xxxx Pakistan
336-xxxx France
661-xxxx Thailand

So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.

Thanks!

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Tue, 10 May 2022 19:51 UTC

On 5/10/2022 3:12 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
> while attempting to make the connection.
>
> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
> by the resulting "caller-id".
>
> 755-xxxx Russia
> 323-xxxx Belgium
> 972-xxxx Israel
> 264-xxxx Namibia
> 266-xxxx Lesotho
> 636-xxxx Philippines
> 922-xxxx Pakistan
> 336-xxxx France
> 661-xxxx Thailand
>
> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
>
> Thanks!

I'm Android Samsung on ATT. I got a recording telling me to use the
area code and the call did not go through. The phone recognized the
number I was calling though.

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Subject: Re: OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local Number
From: deanh6...@gmail.com (Dean Hoffman)
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 by: Dean Hoffman - Tue, 10 May 2022 20:05 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
> while attempting to make the connection.
>
> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
> by the resulting "caller-id".
>
> 755-xxxx Russia
> 323-xxxx Belgium
> 972-xxxx Israel
> 264-xxxx Namibia
> 266-xxxx Lesotho
> 636-xxxx Philippines
> 922-xxxx Pakistan
> 336-xxxx France
> 661-xxxx Thailand
>
> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
>
> Thanks!

I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.

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 by: Frank - Tue, 10 May 2022 22:30 UTC

On 5/10/2022 4:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
>> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
>> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
>> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
>> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
>> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
>> while attempting to make the connection.
>>
>> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
>> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
>> by the resulting "caller-id".
>>
>> 755-xxxx Russia
>> 323-xxxx Belgium
>> 972-xxxx Israel
>> 264-xxxx Namibia
>> 266-xxxx Lesotho
>> 636-xxxx Philippines
>> 922-xxxx Pakistan
>> 336-xxxx France
>> 661-xxxx Thailand
>>
>> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
>> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
> works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.

Now here in DE we even have to use the area code in calling a local number.

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From: deanh6...@gmail.com (Dean Hoffman)
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 by: Dean Hoffman - Tue, 10 May 2022 23:13 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:31:28 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 4:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> >> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
> >> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
> >> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
> >> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
> >> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
> >> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
> >> while attempting to make the connection.
> >>
> >> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
> >> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
> >> by the resulting "caller-id".
> >>
> >> 755-xxxx Russia
> >> 323-xxxx Belgium
> >> 972-xxxx Israel
> >> 264-xxxx Namibia
> >> 266-xxxx Lesotho
> >> 636-xxxx Philippines
> >> 922-xxxx Pakistan
> >> 336-xxxx France
> >> 661-xxxx Thailand
> >>
> >> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
> >> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
> > works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.
> Now here in DE we even have to use the area code in calling a local number.

In Nebraska too.

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 by: Frank - Tue, 10 May 2022 23:47 UTC

On 5/10/2022 7:13 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:31:28 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>> On 5/10/2022 4:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>>>> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
>>>> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
>>>> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
>>>> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
>>>> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
>>>> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
>>>> while attempting to make the connection.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
>>>> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
>>>> by the resulting "caller-id".
>>>>
>>>> 755-xxxx Russia
>>>> 323-xxxx Belgium
>>>> 972-xxxx Israel
>>>> 264-xxxx Namibia
>>>> 266-xxxx Lesotho
>>>> 636-xxxx Philippines
>>>> 922-xxxx Pakistan
>>>> 336-xxxx France
>>>> 661-xxxx Thailand
>>>>
>>>> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
>>>> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
>>> works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.
>> Now here in DE we even have to use the area code in calling a local number.
>
> In Nebraska too.

I had not recalled the reason given so Googled it:

"Why do I have to dial area code for local calls 2021?
Some US callers must now use 10-digit dialing as FCC sets up 988 crisis
hotline. Callers in parts of 35 states and one US territory now have to
dial 10 digits to make a local phone call, as the US prepares to
implement 988 as the three-digit number to quickly reach the National
Suicide Prevention Lifeline.Oct 26, 2021"

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 by: Marilyn Manson - Wed, 11 May 2022 00:20 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 7:47:54 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 7:13 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:31:28 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
> >> On 5/10/2022 4:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> >>>> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
> >>>> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
> >>>> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
> >>>> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
> >>>> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
> >>>> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
> >>>> while attempting to make the connection.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
> >>>> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
> >>>> by the resulting "caller-id".
> >>>>
> >>>> 755-xxxx Russia
> >>>> 323-xxxx Belgium
> >>>> 972-xxxx Israel
> >>>> 264-xxxx Namibia
> >>>> 266-xxxx Lesotho
> >>>> 636-xxxx Philippines
> >>>> 922-xxxx Pakistan
> >>>> 336-xxxx France
> >>>> 661-xxxx Thailand
> >>>>
> >>>> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
> >>>> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
> >>> works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.
> >> Now here in DE we even have to use the area code in calling a local number.
> >
> > In Nebraska too.
> I had not recalled the reason given so Googled it:
>
> "Why do I have to dial area code for local calls 2021?
> Some US callers must now use 10-digit dialing as FCC sets up 988 crisis
> hotline. Callers in parts of 35 states and one US territory now have to
> dial 10 digits to make a local phone call, as the US prepares to
> implement 988 as the three-digit number to quickly reach the National
> Suicide Prevention Lifeline.Oct 26, 2021"

My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
area code within my area code.

Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)

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Subject: Re: OT: Somebody Test This For Me - Dial A Local Number
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 by: Marilyn Manson - Wed, 11 May 2022 00:37 UTC

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 3:51:51 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 3:12 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> > Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
> > phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
> > the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
> > displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
> > The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
> > a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
> > while attempting to make the connection.
> >
> > Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
> > doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
> > by the resulting "caller-id".
> >
> > 755-xxxx Russia
> > 323-xxxx Belgium
> > 972-xxxx Israel
> > 264-xxxx Namibia
> > 266-xxxx Lesotho
> > 636-xxxx Philippines
> > 922-xxxx Pakistan
> > 336-xxxx France
> > 661-xxxx Thailand
> >
> > So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
> > with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
> >
> > Thanks!
> I'm Android Samsung on ATT. I got a recording telling me to use the
> area code and the call did not go through. The phone recognized the
> number I was calling though.

I do not need to dial 10 digits within my area code.

When dialing a 7 digit number, my Samsung S21 considers the first couple
of digits to be a country code and displays the country's name. SWMBO's
Pixel (same plan, same prefix as mine) does not do that. Different phone
app.

On her phone:
If she dials my 7 digit cell number, her phone displays the phone number and
nothing else. If she uses the area code, it displays my contact name because
that's how it's stored in her phone.

On my phone:
If I dial her 7 digit cell number, my phone displays the phone number and
a country name. If I use the area code, it display her contact name because
that's how it's stored in my phone.

https://i.imgur.com/o3N66UG.jpg

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 by: Bob F - Wed, 11 May 2022 01:09 UTC

On 5/10/2022 5:20 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 7:47:54 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
>> On 5/10/2022 7:13 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:31:28 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/2022 4:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>>>>>> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
>>>>>> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
>>>>>> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
>>>>>> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
>>>>>> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
>>>>>> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
>>>>>> while attempting to make the connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
>>>>>> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
>>>>>> by the resulting "caller-id".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 755-xxxx Russia
>>>>>> 323-xxxx Belgium
>>>>>> 972-xxxx Israel
>>>>>> 264-xxxx Namibia
>>>>>> 266-xxxx Lesotho
>>>>>> 636-xxxx Philippines
>>>>>> 922-xxxx Pakistan
>>>>>> 336-xxxx France
>>>>>> 661-xxxx Thailand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
>>>>>> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
>>>>> works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.
>>>> Now here in DE we even have to use the area code in calling a local number.
>>>
>>> In Nebraska too.
>> I had not recalled the reason given so Googled it:
>>
>> "Why do I have to dial area code for local calls 2021?
>> Some US callers must now use 10-digit dialing as FCC sets up 988 crisis
>> hotline. Callers in parts of 35 states and one US territory now have to
>> dial 10 digits to make a local phone call, as the US prepares to
>> implement 988 as the three-digit number to quickly reach the National
>> Suicide Prevention Lifeline.Oct 26, 2021"
>
> My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
> area code within my area code.
>
> Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
> over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)

We've been doing it for years.

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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 10 May 2022 18:09:37 -0700, Bob F
<bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/10/2022 5:20 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 7:47:54 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
>>> On 5/10/2022 7:13 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 5:31:28 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 5/10/2022 4:05 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:12:56 PM UTC-5, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>>>>>>> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
>>>>>>> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area code -
>>>>>>> the system (?) picks up the first digit/digits as a country code. It then
>>>>>>> displays the country name on my phone as if I am calling that country.
>>>>>>> The calls go through fine, assuming it's a valid number. Even if it's not
>>>>>>> a valid number, (e.g. 555-5555) it will still display the country name
>>>>>>> while attempting to make the connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are some recent local calls I've made (to SWMBO's cell phone, my
>>>>>>> doctor's office, a few stores, etc.) using just the 7 digit number, followed
>>>>>>> by the resulting "caller-id".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 755-xxxx Russia
>>>>>>> 323-xxxx Belgium
>>>>>>> 972-xxxx Israel
>>>>>>> 264-xxxx Namibia
>>>>>>> 266-xxxx Lesotho
>>>>>>> 636-xxxx Philippines
>>>>>>> 922-xxxx Pakistan
>>>>>>> 336-xxxx France
>>>>>>> 661-xxxx Thailand
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, please test this for me and let me know if the same thing happens
>>>>>>> with your phone. Include the result, the type of phone and your carrier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get a message telling me to redial and include the area code. U.S. Mobile which
>>>>>> works off Verizon. iPhone. 15.4.1 which is the latest software.
>>>>> Now here in DE we even have to use the area code in calling a local number.
>>>>
>>>> In Nebraska too.
>>> I had not recalled the reason given so Googled it:
>>>
>>> "Why do I have to dial area code for local calls 2021?
>>> Some US callers must now use 10-digit dialing as FCC sets up 988 crisis
>>> hotline. Callers in parts of 35 states and one US territory now have to
>>> dial 10 digits to make a local phone call, as the US prepares to
>>> implement 988 as the three-digit number to quickly reach the National
>>> Suicide Prevention Lifeline.Oct 26, 2021"
>>
>> My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
>> area code within my area code.
>>
>> Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
>> over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)
>
>We've been doing it for years.

We've been doing it for years in Maryland too, and I don't think it had
anything to do with planning for 988.

It seems inevitable if you have overlapping area codes. And Maryland
once had 310 or maybe 301. Then they added 410 for Baltimore. That
wasn't enough so they added one more area code to the exact same area as
each of the others. There is no advantag to two area codes if you can't
have more numbers, that is, the same number in both areas.

The only way to save number-dialing would hbe to have 2-digit or 1-digit
area codes, and while even 1-digit area codes would work within most
states (that have fewer than 11 areas), it wouldn't work very well with
the rest of the nation.

OTOH, if they had split Baltimore into two non-overlapping areas, like
they had done earlier to Maryland and elswhere, it would have been hard
to remember where the border was and to know if you were calling to
another area and had to use 1 and the area code. When they did make
non-overlapping areas, the boundaries were often in rural areas, between
big cities.

When my mother married my father and moved to western Pa. in 1945, she'd
pick up the phone and say OLiver 4-1234 please. After a few days, the
operator said, "You don't have to say Oliver 4, ma'am. They're all
Oliver 4." The population of the town was 50,000 and I guess
10,000 phone numbers were enough. That doesnt' seem right, even for
1945. Or does it?

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Wed, 11 May 2022 02:49 UTC

On 5/10/2022 8:20 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:

> My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
> area code within my area code.
>
> Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
> over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)

Oh, you will at some point. I've been doing it for many years. When I
first moved to CT in 1981 if you were in town you only had to dial five
numbers. 928-xxxx was just 8xxx from another 928 phone. Couple of
years later it was 0 digits.

In reality, now often do you actually dial all the numbers? Anyone I
call on a regular basis is programmed to a button. My car has my
contact list and I don't dial at all. Push a button on the steering
wheel and say "call Thomas"

Ask my the phone number of my kids. I don't know them, just a tap on
the screen to call them.

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 by: rbowman - Wed, 11 May 2022 04:25 UTC

On 05/10/2022 08:49 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 8:20 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>
>> My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to
>> use the
>> area code within my area code.
>>
>> Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive
>> people
>> over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)
>
> Oh, you will at some point. I've been doing it for many years. When I
> first moved to CT in 1981 if you were in town you only had to dial five
> numbers. 928-xxxx was just 8xxx from another 928 phone. Couple of
> years later it was 0 digits.
>
> In reality, now often do you actually dial all the numbers? Anyone I
> call on a regular basis is programmed to a button. My car has my
> contact list and I don't dial at all. Push a button on the steering
> wheel and say "call Thomas"
>
> Ask my the phone number of my kids. I don't know them, just a tap on
> the screen to call them.

Ask me the phone number of my own phone... This entire state only has
one area code which makes it easy to remember. If you've got more than
one area code in 147,000 square miles you've got too many people.

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On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:49:29 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 8:20 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>
> > My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
> > area code within my area code.
> >
> > Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
> > over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)
> Oh, you will at some point. I've been doing it for many years.

Many have, we have not. We're not even on the list to move to 10 digits
when 988 is implemented.

In 2001, we got a new area code and our old one became to dedicated to
a larger metropolitan area that we use to share it with. That area code
moved to 10 digit dialing but we did not.

Some areas are even moving to requiring the 1. This will be a problem for
many older systems, such as alarm systems that weren't designed to handle
an 11 digit number. A family member is in the alarm business. There are
older systems where the central office number is programmed into a chip.
Used to be that there were companies that that could provide replacement
chips if a number needed to be changed. Those are gone now, so once
they move to 11 digits, those systems will be obsolete.

Our work phones are VOIP. All external calls require 11 digits. Inside the
building, 7, inside the company, but outside the building, 11.

Side note: When I work from home, I am logged into the desktop in my office
via Citrix. On my office desktop there is a phone app so that all calls go through
the VOIP system. When I make an outgoing call using the app, my cell phone rings
with a call from my office phone. When I answer my cell phone, the number I
dialed begins to ring and the person I called sees the number of my office phone.
They do not know that I am on my cell.

When someone calls my office, my cell phone rings, again showing my office
phone as the caller. If I don't answer, the call rolls into my office voicemail, not
my personal VM. If I answer, the caller doesn't know that I am on my cell. The
only drawback of the system is that I do not know who is calling my office
unless I am in front of my computer. Since the caller-id on my cell phone shows
my office phone number, I have to be at my home computer, logged into my
office computer, to see the caller-id pop-up. I let those calls go to VM. I also
make sure that I log out of the app when I am not working so that I'm not
bothered by random calls from "my office".

> When I
> first moved to CT in 1981 if you were in town you only had to dial five
> numbers. 928-xxxx was just 8xxx from another 928 phone.

I assume you mean 8xxxx. Parts of MA had the same thing back in the
60's. Party lines too. The first iteration of "conference calls" ;-)

> Couple of years later it was 0 digits.

Zero digits? That's quite a leap in technology. ;-)

>
> In reality, now often do you actually dial all the numbers?

Obviously often enough that I noticed this "country name" issue.
Local stores, other local businesses, contractors, etc. Other entities
that I'm calling for the first time and/or have no need to be in my
contact list.

> Anyone I
> call on a regular basis is programmed to a button. My car has my
> contact list and I don't dial at all. Push a button on the steering
> wheel and say "call Thomas"
>
> Ask my the phone number of my kids. I don't know them, just a tap on
> the screen to call them.

Same same.

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On 5/10/22 14:51, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/10/2022 3:12 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> Does the following happen on all cell phones? I'm using an Android
>> phone on Verizon. If I dial a local number - without using the area
>> code -

[snip]

> I'm Android Samsung on ATT.  I got a recording telling me to use the
> area code and the call did not go through.  The phone recognized the
> number I was calling though.

I got the same thing here (on Verizon). No country name was ever
displayed. There has been an overlay area code here for about 2 decades,
and we are required to dial 10 digits for local calls.

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On 5/10/22 19:20, Marilyn Manson wrote:

[snip]

> My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
> area code within my area code.
>
> Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
> over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)

I've had to dial 10 digits for a long time now. It has nothing to do
with 988, but an overlay area code. I didn't hear of anyone using that
new code until recently, but they still required all 10 digits.

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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 1:25:16 PM UTC-4, Mark Lloyd wrote:
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>
> [snip]
> > My state is listed, but my area code is not, therefore I don't need to use the
> > area code within my area code.
> >
> > Seems like dialing 10-digits to call the house next door could drive people
> > over the edge. 988 is going to be extra busy. ;-)
> I've had to dial 10 digits for a long time now. It has nothing to do
> with 988, but an overlay area code. I didn't hear of anyone using that
> new code until recently, but they still required all 10 digits.

In your case it has/had nothing to do with 988. In other cases it changed
specifically due to 988. In other cases, like mine, nothing is changing.
7 digit dialing is still OK.

<https://www.fcc.gov/document/fact-sheet-988-suicide-prevention-lifeline-10-digit-dialing>

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On 5/10/22 21:49, Ed Pawlowski wrote

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> Oh, you will at some point.  I've been doing it for many years.  When I
> first moved to CT in 1981 if you were in town you only had to dial five
> numbers.  928-xxxx was just 8xxx from another 928 phone.

We had 5-digit dialing here until about 1990 (when the new electronic
exchange was put in). People who have been here awhile often give
numbers as 7-xxxx.

Interestingly, with my grandparents' party line you could call someone
in town with 5 digits, but it took FOURTEEN digits to call someone else
on the party line. There was a 4-digit code for that, then all 10 digits
were required (I never knew why).

>Couple of years later it was 0 digits.

Could that be 10?

> In reality, now often do you actually dial all the numbers?  Anyone I
> call on a regular basis is programmed to a button.  My car has my
> contact list and I don't dial at all.  Push a button on the steering
> wheel and say "call Thomas"
>
> Ask my the phone number of my kids.  I don't know them, just a tap on
> the screen to call them.

That can save a lot of work, but it's still a good idea to know the
"number". You might need to use another phone sometime.

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