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* New meaning of "based"Steve Hayes
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New meaning of "based"

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 by: Steve Hayes - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 04:56 UTC

C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described something
as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".

After many enquiries, most fruitless, someone said that it meant
something was "good and true", but that made little sense of the
context in which I first saw it, where the writer implied that it was
a bad thing.

Has anyone else here come across this usage?

If you have, what did you make of it?

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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 by: Peter Moylan - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 04:10 UTC

On 07/06/21 15:56, Steve Hayes wrote:
> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described something
> as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".
>
> After many enquiries, most fruitless, someone said that it meant
> something was "good and true", but that made little sense of the
> context in which I first saw it, where the writer implied that it was
> a bad thing.
>
> Has anyone else here come across this usage?
>
> If you have, what did you make of it?

Could it have been a typo for "base"?

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: Peter Moylan - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 04:22 UTC

On 07/06/21 15:10, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 07/06/21 15:56, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described
>> something as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".
>>
>> After many enquiries, most fruitless, someone said that it meant
>> something was "good and true", but that made little sense of the
>> context in which I first saw it, where the writer implied that it
>> was a bad thing.
>>
>> Has anyone else here come across this usage?
>>
>> If you have, what did you make of it?
>
> Could it have been a typo for "base"?

Two more suggestions: bass (the fish) or bass (the hidden king of rock
and roll).

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

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 by: soup - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 05:29 UTC

On 07/06/2021 05:56, Steve Hayes wrote:
> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described something
> as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".
>
> After many enquiries, most fruitless, someone said that it meant
> something was "good and true", but that made little sense of the
> context in which I first saw it, where the writer implied that it was
> a bad thing.
>
> Has anyone else here come across this usage?

Yes, it is used to describe someone with whom you agree.
For instance someone might say 'we need cops' and someone else might say
that is quite a based statement. Or that the person who said it was based

> If you have, what did you make of it?

No idea on its derivation (probably something to do 'wit the yoot')
and TBH I don't really like it, not for any political ideals just to me
based is, has roots in

Edit :-
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=based

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 by: Steve Hayes - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 08:22 UTC

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:10:02 +1100, Peter Moylan
<peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 07/06/21 15:56, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described something
>> as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".
>>
>> After many enquiries, most fruitless, someone said that it meant
>> something was "good and true", but that made little sense of the
>> context in which I first saw it, where the writer implied that it was
>> a bad thing.
>>
>> Has anyone else here come across this usage?
>>
>> If you have, what did you make of it?
>
>Could it have been a typo for "base"?

As in base-born? A bastard?

Or as opposed to acid?

No, I don't think so.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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 by: Opinicus - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 09:12 UTC

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 06:29:07 +0100, soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 07/06/2021 05:56, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described something
>> as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".

> No idea on its derivation (probably something to do 'wit the yoot')
> and TBH I don't really like it, not for any political ideals just to me
> based is, has roots in
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=based

"Opposite of 'biased'. You know, I almost like that.

--
Bob, "That's just my based opinion"

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 by: Lewis - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 11:26 UTC

In message <j89rbghg9snrn46ej4t37skqs6amiqj0qr@4ax.com> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter

As opposed to a tweet on... ??

> that described something as "based". Not based on anything, just
> "based".

Urban Dictionary says: "A word used when you agree with something; or
when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous
and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online
political slang. The opposite of cringe, some times the opposite of
biased. The latter usage is the original use as coined by rapper Lil B,
and the word originally took off on the meta-ironic website 4Chan ..."

> Has anyone else here come across this usage?

It seems to be limited to social media, I've never heard anyoen say it,
but have seen it on Twitter on occasion.

--
'(...) And the Patrician has been ironical at me,' said Mr. Clete.
'I'm not having that again.'

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 by: CDB - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 12:14 UTC

On 6/7/2021 5:12 AM, Opinicus wrote:
> soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Steve Hayes wrote:

>>> C couple of says ago I saw a tweet on Twitter that described
>>> something as "based". Not based on anything, just "based".

>> No idea on its derivation (probably something to do 'wit the
>> yoot') and TBH I don't really like it, not for any political ideals
>> just to me based is, has roots in
>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=based

> "Opposite of 'biased'. You know, I almost like that.

There is no "I" in "based".

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 by: Stefan Ram - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 16:54 UTC

soup <invalid@invalid.com> writes:
> Yes, it is used to describe someone with whom you agree.
>For instance someone might say 'we need cops' and someone else might say
>that is quite a based statement.

This might be the same idea as expressed by "well-founded".

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 by: Steve Hayes - Tue, 6 Jul 2021 03:49 UTC

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 11:26:17 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>Urban Dictionary says: "A word used when you agree with something; or
>when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous
>and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online
>political slang. The opposite of cringe, some times the opposite of
>biased. The latter usage is the original use as coined by rapper Lil B,
>and the word originally took off on the meta-ironic website 4Chan ..."
>
>> Has anyone else here come across this usage?
>
>It seems to be limited to social media, I've never heard anyoen say it,
>but have seen it on Twitter on occasion.

Thanks very much, that seems to fit wehat I have seen.

In that context does "cringe" mean the same as "biased"?

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Re: New meaning of "based"

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 by: Steve Hayes - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:52 UTC

On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 05:49:02 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 11:26:17 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
><g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>Urban Dictionary says: "A word used when you agree with something; or
>>when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous
>>and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online
>>political slang. The opposite of cringe, some times the opposite of
>>biased. The latter usage is the original use as coined by rapper Lil B,
>>and the word originally took off on the meta-ironic website 4Chan ..."
>>
>>> Has anyone else here come across this usage?
>>
>>It seems to be limited to social media, I've never heard anyoen say it,
>>but have seen it on Twitter on occasion.
>
>Thanks very much, that seems to fit wehat I have seen.
>
>In that context does "cringe" mean the same as "biased"?

I got this from an academic friend, Duncan Reyburn:

'Based' is almost equal to Heidegger's notion of authenticity. It's a
complement, usually meaning something like 'courageous or not caring
what others think'. The opposite of 'based' is 'cringe'. 'Based off'
(usually with an 'of') at the end is just bad English for 'based on'.

'Cringe' carries the idea of recoiling but it is used, more or less,
as a mildly derogatory term to refer to people who just want to
appease and fit in, or opinions uttered that have no authentic,
courageous weight.

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