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* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Marilyn Manson
+- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Karen
+- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Randy Patzkowski
+- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.philo
+* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.MikeJ
|+* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Cindy Hamilton
||+* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.rbowman
|||`* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.MikeJ
||| `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Ed Pawlowski
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|||    +* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.rbowman
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|||    | `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.rbowman
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||`* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.MikeJ
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|| +- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Scott Lurndal
|| `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4
||  +* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.MikeJ
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||  `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.MikeJ
||   `- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.rbowman
|`* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Bob F
| `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4
|  +* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Frank
|  |`* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Ed Pawlowski
|  | `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Frank
|  |  +* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Scott Lurndal
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|  |  |  `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4
|  |  |   `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Frank
|  |  |    `- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Marilyn Manson
|  |  +- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Harry Wood
|  |  `- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4
|  `- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Harry Wood
+* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4
|`- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Scott Lurndal
`* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Harry Wood
 `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Cindy Hamilton
  `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4
   `* MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Cindy Hamilton
    +- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Bob F
    +- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.Frank
    +- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.rbowman
    `- MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.trader_4

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Re: MTG - What an F'in idiot. She responded to a 12 YO Tweet.

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 by: Harry Wood - Sat, 14 May 2022 12:29 UTC

On Saturday, 14 May 2022 at 2:52:48 am UTC+10, Frank wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 11:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/13/2022 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
> > How do you divvy up the responsibility? How much do we have to suffer
> > economically before helping? This "special military operation" does
> > affect us in many ways. Ukraine is a part of our global economy and out
> > help shortens the long term issues.
> True but as Trump pointed out we were carrying NATO on our backs.
> Burden should have been shared equitably.

Let me be frank, Frank. Do you want to die for a Jew in control of a majority Goy population?

Please tie that bow into a pretty little ribbon for me honeybuns.

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Sat, 14 May 2022 13:39 UTC

On 2022-05-14, Harry Wood <hazardharry89@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 3:24:03 am UTC+10, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>> Washington.
>>
>> She deleted it, but she can't deny it. As they say "screenshots are
>> forever".
>>
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/2ueW8mW
>
>
> She still has a point, even if it's 10 years late, what the fuck
> was he doing there?

What the fuck does it matter? He can go anywhere they'll have him, and
apparently the World Economic Forum wanted him there.

You should learn what the WEF is, what it does, and what kinds of people
are welcome at its gatherings.

Although it's hard to square the WEF's globalist mission with Oz's
desire to be a Republican politician. You'll have to get him to
justify himself. Maybe Breitbart would undertake that for you.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
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> On 05/12/2022 02:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-12, MikeJ <goober@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>> Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:717aa536-b505- 441c-966f-d558294da8bfn@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>>>> Washington.
>>>
>>> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather spend
>>> $40B on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
>>
>> I suppose you'd like to let Putin do whatever he wants. I don't.
>>
>
> I can't see Russia from here so it doesn't make a big rat's ass
> difference to me. Ukraine has went back and forth since the days of
> the Rus (Swedes on vacation).

+1

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Mon, 16 May 2022 01:44 UTC

On 5/15/2022 9:29 PM, MikeJ wrote:
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
> news:je4h5dFr1fbU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 05/12/2022 02:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-12, MikeJ <goober@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>>> Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:717aa536-b505- 441c-966f-d558294da8bfn@googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>>>>> Washington.
>>>>
>>>> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather spend
>>>> $40B on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
>>>
>>> I suppose you'd like to let Putin do whatever he wants. I don't.
>>>
>>
>> I can't see Russia from here so it doesn't make a big rat's ass
>> difference to me. Ukraine has went back and forth since the days of
>> the Rus (Swedes on vacation).
>
> +1

In the world economy we participate in, it affects us in many ways. Ask
you local farmer about fertilizer that used to be cheap from Russia and
ask about grain prices if Ukraine cannot supply like they used to, etc.
etc,.

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 by: MikeJ - Mon, 16 May 2022 02:02 UTC

trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
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> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 1:29:46 PM UTC-4, MikeJ wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton <hami...@devnull.com> wrote in
>> news:er3fK.56$56e...@fx34.iad:
>> > On 2022-05-12, MikeJ <goo...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>> >> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:717aa536-b505- 441c-966f-d...@googlegroups.com:
>> >>
>> >>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>> >>> Washington.
>> >>
>> >> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather
>> >> spend $40B on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
>> >
>> > I suppose you'd like to let Putin do whatever he wants. I don't.
>> >
>> How superficial. Me thinks you know nothing about the
>> political/social history of Ukraine and Russia/U.S.S.R. Let them
>> fight it out. The idea that the U.S. is defending democracy in
>> Ukraine is pure propaganda.
>
> BS. The propaganda is Putin claiming that Russia went in to save the
> Ukranians from Nazis.
>
>
>>
>> The U.S. has gotten itself deeper and deeper into this war. We are
>> now in a proxy war with Russia.
>
> So be it. The last proxy war was the US supplying the mujahideen with
> arms and it helped lead to the end of the evil empire, the dissolution
> of the USSR. That evil POS Putin wants to put it back together again
> using force.
>
>>
>> I suppose you're ok with this going nuclear?
>
> We can't cower in fear because Putin says nuclear. Super powers of
> democracy don't do that. And if we did, he would just use it to
> swallow up the world. Did JFK say, OMG, Russia has nukes, can't do
> anything about them putting missiles in Cuba and lying about it? No,
> he put in place a naval blockade and told them that any missile launch
> from Cuba against any target in the Western Hemisphere would be
> regarded as an attack on the USA and require a full retaliatory
> response. Krushcheyv backed down.
>

Yeah, I know all about the Cuban missile crisis. I lived through it.
Scarry. And Krushchev, "We will bury you.", banging his show on the
podium. Blah, blah, blah.

But, the Ukranian situation is much more complicatd. I look at it as
Ike said, "Beware of the military-industrial complex." Nothing's
changed. We fight foreign wars, even by proxy, and the Congress people
get rich. Dems, Repubs, all the same.

It's been going on for thousands of years. Both sides propagandize.
Main difference now is that information, true or false, is instaneous.
It's all click bait, and most click on articles/sites with which support
their opinions. Most people are lazy, and don't want to hear anything
that makes them think.

And it goes on and on and on.

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 by: MikeJ - Mon, 16 May 2022 02:08 UTC

trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
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> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 1:29:46 PM UTC-4, MikeJ wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton <hami...@devnull.com> wrote in
>> news:er3fK.56$56e...@fx34.iad:
>> > On 2022-05-12, MikeJ <goo...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>> >> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:717aa536-b505- 441c-966f-d...@googlegroups.com:
>> >>
>> >>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>> >>> Washington.
>> >>
>> >> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather
>> >> spend $40B on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
>> >
>> > I suppose you'd like to let Putin do whatever he wants. I don't.
>> >
>> How superficial. Me thinks you know nothing about the
>> political/social history of Ukraine and Russia/U.S.S.R. Let them
>> fight it out. The idea that the U.S. is defending democracy in
>> Ukraine is pure propaganda.
>
> BS. The propaganda is Putin claiming that Russia went in to save the
> Ukranians from Nazis.
>
>
>>
>> The U.S. has gotten itself deeper and deeper into this war. We are
>> now in a proxy war with Russia.
>
> So be it. The last proxy war was the US supplying the mujahideen with
> arms and it helped lead to the end of the evil empire, the dissolution
> of the USSR. That evil POS Putin wants to put it back together again
> using force.
>
>>
>> I suppose you're ok with this going nuclear?
>
> We can't cower in fear because Putin says nuclear.

I'd call his bluff like JFK did. Too bad Biden didn't do that already,
but he's not in charge. Pussies are.

Super powers of
> democracy don't do that. And if we did, he would just use it to
> swallow up the world. Did JFK say, OMG, Russia has nukes, can't do
> anything about them putting missiles in Cuba and lying about it? No,
> he put in place a naval blockade and told them that any missile launch
> from Cuba against any target in the Western Hemisphere would be
> regarded as an attack on the USA and require a full retaliatory
> response. Krushcheyv backed down.
>

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 by: rbowman - Mon, 16 May 2022 04:57 UTC

On 05/15/2022 07:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/15/2022 9:29 PM, MikeJ wrote:
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
>> news:je4h5dFr1fbU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On 05/12/2022 02:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-12, MikeJ <goober@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>>>> Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:717aa536-b505- 441c-966f-d558294da8bfn@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>>>>>> Washington.
>>>>>
>>>>> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather spend
>>>>> $40B on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose you'd like to let Putin do whatever he wants. I don't.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't see Russia from here so it doesn't make a big rat's ass
>>> difference to me. Ukraine has went back and forth since the days of
>>> the Rus (Swedes on vacation).
>>
>> +1
>
> In the world economy we participate in, it affects us in many ways. Ask
> you local farmer about fertilizer that used to be cheap from Russia and
> ask about grain prices if Ukraine cannot supply like they used to, etc.
> etc,.

Maybe it's time to get out of the world economy. The US has natural gas,
which provides hydrogen to the production of ammonia fertilizer. When
the price of natural gas went up, about half of the US fertilizer plants
shutdown since it was cheaper to but fertilizer from Russia and third
world countries. As profits drove the decision making process with no
thought that a vital product could be turned off by world unrest.

Of course Russia might be willing to supply the US with all the
fertilizer it wants if the warmongers from both parties weren't trying
to fuck Russia.

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 by: rbowman - Mon, 16 May 2022 05:00 UTC

On 05/15/2022 08:02 PM, MikeJ wrote:
> But, the Ukranian situation is much more complicatd. I look at it as
> Ike said, "Beware of the military-industrial complex." Nothing's
> changed. We fight foreign wars, even by proxy, and the Congress people
> get rich. Dems, Repubs, all the same.

To say nothing of Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed Martin and the rest of the
usual suspects. A lot of that 54 billion will be rapidly repatriated,
less what the corrupt comedian manages to skim.

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 by: rbowman - Mon, 16 May 2022 05:11 UTC

On 05/15/2022 08:08 PM, MikeJ wrote:
> I'd call his bluff like JFK did. Too bad Biden didn't do that already,
> but he's not in charge. Pussies are.

There was a lot of bluffing going on.The US removed the Jupiter missiles
in Turkey in exchange for the Soviets removing the missiles from Cuba.
Supposedly nobody bothered to tell Kennedy the missiles were in Turkey.

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Mon, 16 May 2022 08:34 UTC

On 2022-05-16, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's time to get out of the world economy. The US has natural gas,
> which provides hydrogen to the production of ammonia fertilizer. When
> the price of natural gas went up, about half of the US fertilizer plants
> shutdown since it was cheaper to but fertilizer from Russia and third
> world countries. As profits drove the decision making process with no
> thought that a vital product could be turned off by world unrest.

Ah, the legacy of Milton Friedman, coupled with the desire of Americans
to have a much stuff as possible at the lowest possible cost.

I don't think there's any way to uncrack that egg. We have a global
economy and it's not going away.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On 5/16/2022 12:57 AM, rbowman wrote:

>>
>> In the world economy we participate in, it affects us in many ways.  Ask
>> you local farmer about fertilizer that used to be cheap from Russia and
>> ask about grain prices if Ukraine cannot supply like they used to, etc.
>> etc,.
>
> Maybe it's time to get out of the world economy. The US has natural gas,
> which provides hydrogen to the production of ammonia fertilizer. When
> the price of natural gas went up, about half of the US fertilizer plants
> shutdown since it was cheaper to but fertilizer from Russia and third
> world countries. As profits drove the decision making process with no
> thought that a vital product could be turned off by world unrest.
>
> Of course Russia might be willing to supply the US with all the
> fertilizer it wants if the warmongers from both parties weren't trying
> to fuck Russia.
>
>

This is America, Land of Cheap Imported Goods.
We can again become independent. If we do, we will have to re-open the
RCA plant that made CRT tubes for TV screens so we can watch the news.

Won't be many student loans any more, college not needed. From high
school the kids will learn to work in factories again to make steel, air
conditioners, clothing, etc.

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 by: trader_4 - Mon, 16 May 2022 13:30 UTC

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:52:48 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 11:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 5/13/2022 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
> >> On 5/13/2022 10:13 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
> >>>> On 5/11/2022 5:28 PM, MikeJ wrote:
> >>>>> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote in news:717aa536-b505-
> >>>>> 441c-966f-d...@googlegroups.com:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
> >>>>>> Washington.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather spend
> >>>>> $40B
> >>>>> on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
> >>>> And we should have let Hitler just take over the planet too.
> >>>
> >>> This is some of the best, most cost effective spending I've seen in
> >>> years.
> >>> Russian is being taken to the woodshed, rapidly depleting their
> >>> military resources,
> >>> soldiers and economy. Given what we just saw Putin do, Russia needs
> >>> to be
> >>> weakened and taught a hard lesson so that they don't proceed on to other
> >>> countries. I see that fool Rand Paul objected and delayed it. No
> >>> surprise there,
> >>> his position on these things in totally whacko. He actually thinks
> >>> it's OK for
> >>> Iran to have nukes.
> >>
> >> Looks like your conservatism is to be a NeoCon.
> >>
> >> I agree we should help the Ukraine but feel it is mostly EU
> >> responsibility.
> >
> > How do you divvy up the responsibility? How much do we have to suffer
> > economically before helping? This "special military operation" does
> > affect us in many ways. Ukraine is a part of our global economy and out
> > help shortens the long term issues.
> True but as Trump pointed out we were carrying NATO on our backs.
> Burden should have been shared equitably.

Maybe you should stop listening to the liar and look at the facts:

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/19/which-country-has-given-the-most-money-to-ukraine

As a a percent of GDP, the US was in the middle of the pack in terms of
aid sent to Ukraine:

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/19/which-country-has-given-the-most-money-to-ukraine

And Estonia blew us away. Should the Estonians be looking at the US with
a jaundiced eye? Trump constantly lied talking about the US paying NATO
and other countries not paying. It doesn't work that way and even that moron
should be able to understand it, but he continues to misrepresent it. The
agreement made several years ago was that each NATO member country
would spend at least 2% of their GDP on defense. It's not money that is
actually sent to NATO, it's not an unpaid NATO bill like Trump claims.
Eight NATO countries besides the US are meeting
that 2% number. Others like Canada and Italy are around 1.4%. Should they be
spending more on defense? Sure and urging they to do so is a good thing.
But Trump berated them, badgered them and at the same time said NATO
was obsolete and kissed Putin's ass. What logic was there in that? Did
he solve anything?

And even if all the NATO countries met their 2% defense spending objective,
do you think the US would then spend less on defense? Our spending on
defense as a percent of GDP is less than it was in the 80s, it's half of what
it was in the 60s. We have worldwide threats to deal with, not just Europe.
Italy spending 0.6% more on it's defense doesn't mean that we would not still
need about the same level of troops, the same strategic defense, about
the same gear to be ready for worldwide threats from China, NK, Iran, etc.

The recent big $30 bil Ukraine package that Congress is passing will probably
shift the position of where the US stands with aid. But that's the best
$30 bil we can spend, far more effective in weakening the greatest threat
to Europe and world peace since Hitler. It's far more effective than spending
it on our own defense budget, Ukraine is doing the heavy lifting and destroying
Russia's military, at a stunning rate. It may even lead to the end of Putin and
perhaps a better Russia too. Grinding them down both militarily and economically
in Afghanistan helped lead to the end of the USSR. Sadly Putin is intent on
trying to put it back together again by war. Given the devastation that Putin
has seen of his military against a country that was supposed to be an easy
push over, it's extremely unlikely that he's going to invade any more countries
anytime soon. And it also demonstrated how wrong and dangerous Trump
was with his undermining of NATO. That likely helped lead to the invasion of
Ukraine. Do you think Trump saying that the US might not honor our treaty
obligation to come to the defense of a NATO country under attack made it
less likely or more likely that Ukraine got invaded? Putin just demonstrated
to the world that NATO is not obsolete, that it is vital for peace and effective.

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 by: trader_4 - Mon, 16 May 2022 13:32 UTC

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:13:33 PM UTC-4, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 1:27:27 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> > On 5/13/2022 1:18 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > > Frank <"frank "@frank.net> writes:
> > >> On 5/13/2022 11:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >>> On 5/13/2022 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
> > >>>> On 5/13/2022 10:13 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> How do you divvy up the responsibility? How much do we have to suffer
> > >>> economically before helping? This "special military operation" does
> > >>> affect us in many ways. Ukraine is a part of our global economy and out
> > >>> help shortens the long term issues.
> > >>
> > >> True but as Trump pointed out we were carrying NATO on our backs.
> > >> Burden should have been shared equitably.
> > >
> > > Another rather ill-informed statement from Frank.
> > >
> > > Start with defining equitable:
> > >
> > > - In terms of manpower?
> > > - In terms of firepower?
> > > - In terms of "defense spending"?
> > >
> > > You'll find, if you study the issue at all, that none
> > > of the above "equitable" definitions are contained in
> > > the treaty, whose text is available for all to read.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Treaty
> > >
> > > The so-called 2% rule is not part of the treaty, and
> > > it was never a commitment, rather it was an aspirational
> > > goal adopted 57 years after NATO was created.
> > >
> > > Again, what is your _precise_ definition of "equitable"?
> > Not worth my attention to you.
> Frank's modus operandi:
>
> When the going gets tough, he gets going - away.
>
> Instead of answering the tough questions, he claims the
> questioner is not worth his time. So childish.

+1

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 by: trader_4 - Mon, 16 May 2022 13:35 UTC

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:40:04 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-14, Harry Wood <hazard...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 3:24:03 am UTC+10, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> >> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
> >> Washington.
> >>
> >> She deleted it, but she can't deny it. As they say "screenshots are
> >> forever".
> >>
> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/2ueW8mW
> >
> >
> > She still has a point, even if it's 10 years late, what the fuck
> > was he doing there?
> What the fuck does it matter? He can go anywhere they'll have him, and
> apparently the World Economic Forum wanted him there.
>
> You should learn what the WEF is, what it does, and what kinds of people
> are welcome at its gatherings.
>
> Although it's hard to square the WEF's globalist mission with Oz's
> desire to be a Republican politician. You'll have to get him to
> justify himself. Maybe Breitbart would undertake that for you.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

+1

The interesting thing is that Trump is like some kind of holy water. When he
blesses a candidate, all is apparently forgotten and forgiven. Previous
positions don't matter, nor does much else. Just praise Trump and have him
praise you. Vance in Ohio is the perfect example. He went from Never Trumper
to Trump sycophant, got Trump's endorsement and won the primary.

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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 10:02:58 PM UTC-4, MikeJ wrote:
> trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote in
> news:52b76217-f61f-42a1...@googlegroups.com:
> > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 1:29:46 PM UTC-4, MikeJ wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton <hami...@devnull.com> wrote in
> >> news:er3fK.56$56e...@fx34.iad:
> >> > On 2022-05-12, MikeJ <goo...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> >> >> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:717aa536-b505- 441c-966f-d...@googlegroups.com:
> >> >>
> >> >>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
> >> >>> Washington.
> >> >>
> >> >> You bet. She's one of the few in Washington that would rather
> >> >> spend $40B on this country than on corrupt Ukraine.
> >> >
> >> > I suppose you'd like to let Putin do whatever he wants. I don't.
> >> >
> >> How superficial. Me thinks you know nothing about the
> >> political/social history of Ukraine and Russia/U.S.S.R. Let them
> >> fight it out. The idea that the U.S. is defending democracy in
> >> Ukraine is pure propaganda.
> >
> > BS. The propaganda is Putin claiming that Russia went in to save the
> > Ukranians from Nazis.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The U.S. has gotten itself deeper and deeper into this war. We are
> >> now in a proxy war with Russia.
> >
> > So be it. The last proxy war was the US supplying the mujahideen with
> > arms and it helped lead to the end of the evil empire, the dissolution
> > of the USSR. That evil POS Putin wants to put it back together again
> > using force.
> >
> >>
> >> I suppose you're ok with this going nuclear?
> >
> > We can't cower in fear because Putin says nuclear. Super powers of
> > democracy don't do that. And if we did, he would just use it to
> > swallow up the world. Did JFK say, OMG, Russia has nukes, can't do
> > anything about them putting missiles in Cuba and lying about it? No,
> > he put in place a naval blockade and told them that any missile launch
> > from Cuba against any target in the Western Hemisphere would be
> > regarded as an attack on the USA and require a full retaliatory
> > response. Krushcheyv backed down.
> >
> Yeah, I know all about the Cuban missile crisis. I lived through it.
> Scarry. And Krushchev, "We will bury you.", banging his show on the
> podium. Blah, blah, blah.
>
> But, the Ukranian situation is much more complicatd.

It's not complicated at all. A large peaceful democracy that posed no threat
to anyone was invaded by Putin.

I look at it as
> Ike said, "Beware of the military-industrial complex." Nothing's
> changed. We fight foreign wars, even by proxy, and the Congress people
> get rich. Dems, Repubs, all the same.

A silly cannard. The military industrial complex didn't invade Ukraine.

>
> It's been going on for thousands of years. Both sides propagandize.

Cite for us the propaganda on the Ukraine side? Ukraine, Europe,
the UN, US all lying? The only propaganda I see is from Putin and
Russia, claiming that they had to go to war in Ukraine to save the people
there from Nazis. Now that's some mighty fine propaganda.

> Main difference now is that information, true or false, is instaneous.
> It's all click bait, and most click on articles/sites with which support
> their opinions. Most people are lazy, and don't want to hear anything
> that makes them think.
>
> And it goes on and on and on.

There is plenty of information and it's very obvious what the truth
is about Ukraine.

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On 05/16/2022 06:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> This is America, Land of Cheap Imported Goods.
> We can again become independent. If we do, we will have to re-open the
> RCA plant that made CRT tubes for TV screens so we can watch the news.

I think we can do a little better than that.

> Won't be many student loans any more, college not needed. From high
> school the kids will learn to work in factories again to make steel, air
> conditioners, clothing, etc.

Yeah, there might not be much demand for a BA in gender studies living
in its parent's basement. Or do you think the kids are too good or too
stupid to do productive work?

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On 5/16/2022 5:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/16/2022 12:57 AM, rbowman wrote:
>
>>>
>>> In the world economy we participate in, it affects us in many ways.  Ask
>>> you local farmer about fertilizer that used to be cheap from Russia and
>>> ask about grain prices if Ukraine cannot supply like they used to, etc.
>>> etc,.
>>
>> Maybe it's time to get out of the world economy. The US has natural
>> gas, which provides hydrogen to the production of ammonia fertilizer.
>> When the price of natural gas went up, about half of the US fertilizer
>> plants shutdown since it was cheaper to but fertilizer from Russia and
>> third world countries. As profits drove the decision making process
>> with no thought that a vital product could be turned off by world unrest.
>>
>> Of course Russia might be willing to supply the US with all the
>> fertilizer it wants if the warmongers from both parties weren't trying
>> to fuck Russia.
>>
>>
>
> This is America, Land of Cheap Imported Goods.
> We can again become independent. If we do, we will have to re-open the
> RCA plant that made CRT tubes for TV screens so we can watch the news.
>
> Won't be many student loans any more, college not needed.  From high
> school the kids will learn to work in factories again to make steel, air
> conditioners, clothing, etc.
>

That's a whole lot better than flipping burgers.

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On 5/16/2022 9:32 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:13:33 PM UTC-4, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 1:27:27 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2022 1:18 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> Frank <"frank "@frank.net> writes:
>>>>> On 5/13/2022 11:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/13/2022 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/13/2022 10:13 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you divvy up the responsibility? How much do we have to suffer
>>>>>> economically before helping? This "special military operation" does
>>>>>> affect us in many ways. Ukraine is a part of our global economy and out
>>>>>> help shortens the long term issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> True but as Trump pointed out we were carrying NATO on our backs.
>>>>> Burden should have been shared equitably.
>>>>
>>>> Another rather ill-informed statement from Frank.
>>>>
>>>> Start with defining equitable:
>>>>
>>>> - In terms of manpower?
>>>> - In terms of firepower?
>>>> - In terms of "defense spending"?
>>>>
>>>> You'll find, if you study the issue at all, that none
>>>> of the above "equitable" definitions are contained in
>>>> the treaty, whose text is available for all to read.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Treaty
>>>>
>>>> The so-called 2% rule is not part of the treaty, and
>>>> it was never a commitment, rather it was an aspirational
>>>> goal adopted 57 years after NATO was created.
>>>>
>>>> Again, what is your _precise_ definition of "equitable"?
>>> Not worth my attention to you.
>> Frank's modus operandi:
>>
>> When the going gets tough, he gets going - away.
>>
>> Instead of answering the tough questions, he claims the
>> questioner is not worth his time. So childish.
>
> +1

Yes, both of you are senile old retards.

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 by: Marilyn Manson - Mon, 16 May 2022 14:37 UTC

On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:25:44 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 5/16/2022 9:32 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> > On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:13:33 PM UTC-4, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> >> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 1:27:27 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> >>> On 5/13/2022 1:18 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >>>> Frank <"frank "@frank.net> writes:
> >>>>> On 5/13/2022 11:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/13/2022 10:20 AM, Frank wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 5/13/2022 10:13 AM, trader_4 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you divvy up the responsibility? How much do we have to suffer
> >>>>>> economically before helping? This "special military operation" does
> >>>>>> affect us in many ways. Ukraine is a part of our global economy and out
> >>>>>> help shortens the long term issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> True but as Trump pointed out we were carrying NATO on our backs.
> >>>>> Burden should have been shared equitably.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another rather ill-informed statement from Frank.
> >>>>
> >>>> Start with defining equitable:
> >>>>
> >>>> - In terms of manpower?
> >>>> - In terms of firepower?
> >>>> - In terms of "defense spending"?
> >>>>
> >>>> You'll find, if you study the issue at all, that none
> >>>> of the above "equitable" definitions are contained in
> >>>> the treaty, whose text is available for all to read.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Treaty
> >>>>
> >>>> The so-called 2% rule is not part of the treaty, and
> >>>> it was never a commitment, rather it was an aspirational
> >>>> goal adopted 57 years after NATO was created.
> >>>>
> >>>> Again, what is your _precise_ definition of "equitable"?
> >>> Not worth my attention to you.
> >> Frank's modus operandi:
> >>
> >> When the going gets tough, he gets going - away.
> >>
> >> Instead of answering the tough questions, he claims the
> >> questioner is not worth his time. So childish.
> >
> > +1
> Yes, both of you are senile old retards.

Well, at least our admonishments have steered you back to
engaging in intelligent, adult dialog. /s

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 by: Ed Pawlowski - Mon, 16 May 2022 16:16 UTC

On 5/16/2022 9:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On 05/16/2022 06:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> This is America, Land of Cheap Imported Goods.
>> We can again become independent. If we do, we will have to re-open the
>> RCA plant that made CRT tubes for TV screens so we can watch the news.
>
> I think we can do a little better than that.
>
>> Won't be many student loans any more, college not needed.  From high
>> school the kids will learn to work in factories again to make steel, air
>> conditioners, clothing, etc.
>
> Yeah, there might not be much demand for a BA in gender studies living
> in its parent's basement. Or do you think the kids are too good or too
> stupid to do productive work?
>

A bit of both. Many parents are raising their kids to never get their
hands dirty.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but gone are the days dad worked at the mill and
made enough to buy a house, a Ford or Chevy every 5 years and mom
actually raised the kids. Many of those jobs are in China now.

Many kids are warehoused all day in some day care with strangers. We
have more "stuff" but do we really have a better life?

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Mon, 16 May 2022 18:28 UTC

On 2022-05-16, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:40:04 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-14, Harry Wood <hazard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 3:24:03 am UTC+10, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> >> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>> >> Washington.
>> >>
>> >> She deleted it, but she can't deny it. As they say "screenshots are
>> >> forever".
>> >>
>> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/2ueW8mW
>> >
>> >
>> > She still has a point, even if it's 10 years late, what the fuck
>> > was he doing there?
>> What the fuck does it matter? He can go anywhere they'll have him, and
>> apparently the World Economic Forum wanted him there.
>>
>> You should learn what the WEF is, what it does, and what kinds of people
>> are welcome at its gatherings.
>>
>> Although it's hard to square the WEF's globalist mission with Oz's
>> desire to be a Republican politician. You'll have to get him to
>> justify himself. Maybe Breitbart would undertake that for you.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> +1
>
> The interesting thing is that Trump is like some kind of holy water. When he
> blesses a candidate, all is apparently forgotten and forgiven. Previous
> positions don't matter, nor does much else. Just praise Trump and have him
> praise you. Vance in Ohio is the perfect example. He went from Never Trumper
> to Trump sycophant, got Trump's endorsement and won the primary.

Trump used to be a pro-abortion Democrat.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: Bob F - Mon, 16 May 2022 18:51 UTC

On 5/16/2022 11:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-16, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:40:04 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-14, Harry Wood <hazard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 3:24:03 am UTC+10, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>>>>> Washington.
>>>>>
>>>>> She deleted it, but she can't deny it. As they say "screenshots are
>>>>> forever".
>>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/2ueW8mW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She still has a point, even if it's 10 years late, what the fuck
>>>> was he doing there?
>>> What the fuck does it matter? He can go anywhere they'll have him, and
>>> apparently the World Economic Forum wanted him there.
>>>
>>> You should learn what the WEF is, what it does, and what kinds of people
>>> are welcome at its gatherings.
>>>
>>> Although it's hard to square the WEF's globalist mission with Oz's
>>> desire to be a Republican politician. You'll have to get him to
>>> justify himself. Maybe Breitbart would undertake that for you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The interesting thing is that Trump is like some kind of holy water. When he
>> blesses a candidate, all is apparently forgotten and forgiven. Previous
>> positions don't matter, nor does much else. Just praise Trump and have him
>> praise you. Vance in Ohio is the perfect example. He went from Never Trumper
>> to Trump sycophant, got Trump's endorsement and won the primary.
>
> Trump used to be a pro-abortion Democrat.
>

Anything is OK with repubs if it will get them power.

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 by: Frank - Mon, 16 May 2022 22:50 UTC

On 5/16/2022 2:28 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-16, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:40:04 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-14, Harry Wood <hazard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 3:24:03 am UTC+10, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>>>>> Washington.
>>>>>
>>>>> She deleted it, but she can't deny it. As they say "screenshots are
>>>>> forever".
>>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/2ueW8mW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She still has a point, even if it's 10 years late, what the fuck
>>>> was he doing there?
>>> What the fuck does it matter? He can go anywhere they'll have him, and
>>> apparently the World Economic Forum wanted him there.
>>>
>>> You should learn what the WEF is, what it does, and what kinds of people
>>> are welcome at its gatherings.
>>>
>>> Although it's hard to square the WEF's globalist mission with Oz's
>>> desire to be a Republican politician. You'll have to get him to
>>> justify himself. Maybe Breitbart would undertake that for you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The interesting thing is that Trump is like some kind of holy water. When he
>> blesses a candidate, all is apparently forgotten and forgiven. Previous
>> positions don't matter, nor does much else. Just praise Trump and have him
>> praise you. Vance in Ohio is the perfect example. He went from Never Trumper
>> to Trump sycophant, got Trump's endorsement and won the primary.
>
> Trump used to be a pro-abortion Democrat.
>

Media makes people believe it is all black and white. I suspect
majority and Trump would allow it but not past the first trimester.
Being pro abortion to that point does not mean anybody is a Democrat.

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 by: rbowman - Tue, 17 May 2022 02:03 UTC

On 05/16/2022 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/16/2022 9:42 AM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 05/16/2022 06:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> This is America, Land of Cheap Imported Goods.
>>> We can again become independent. If we do, we will have to re-open the
>>> RCA plant that made CRT tubes for TV screens so we can watch the news.
>>
>> I think we can do a little better than that.
>>
>>> Won't be many student loans any more, college not needed. From high
>>> school the kids will learn to work in factories again to make steel, air
>>> conditioners, clothing, etc.
>>
>> Yeah, there might not be much demand for a BA in gender studies living
>> in its parent's basement. Or do you think the kids are too good or too
>> stupid to do productive work?
>>
>
> A bit of both. Many parents are raising their kids to never get their
> hands dirty.

My mother's mantra was 'you've got to go to college so you don't wind up
driving a truck like your father'. Good thing she was a long time
underground when I drove OTR for a few years in the '90s. I wanted to
drive a truck when I was a kid and finally got around to it. It was fun
for a while, a good break from software.

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 by: rbowman - Tue, 17 May 2022 02:13 UTC

On 05/16/2022 12:28 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-16, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:40:04 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-14, Harry Wood <hazard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 3:24:03 am UTC+10, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>>>>> This is the kind of representation that some people want in
>>>>> Washington.
>>>>>
>>>>> She deleted it, but she can't deny it. As they say "screenshots are
>>>>> forever".
>>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/2ueW8mW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She still has a point, even if it's 10 years late, what the fuck
>>>> was he doing there?
>>> What the fuck does it matter? He can go anywhere they'll have him, and
>>> apparently the World Economic Forum wanted him there.
>>>
>>> You should learn what the WEF is, what it does, and what kinds of people
>>> are welcome at its gatherings.
>>>
>>> Although it's hard to square the WEF's globalist mission with Oz's
>>> desire to be a Republican politician. You'll have to get him to
>>> justify himself. Maybe Breitbart would undertake that for you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The interesting thing is that Trump is like some kind of holy water. When he
>> blesses a candidate, all is apparently forgotten and forgiven. Previous
>> positions don't matter, nor does much else. Just praise Trump and have him
>> praise you. Vance in Ohio is the perfect example. He went from Never Trumper
>> to Trump sycophant, got Trump's endorsement and won the primary.
>
> Trump used to be a pro-abortion Democrat.
>

Maybe that's why he is in love with Oz. Trump has endorsed a candidate
for our new Representative slot. I'm sure he'll win the primary which
will lead to an interesting fall. The last time he was in DC he resigned
before he got fired. I'm fairly sure he'll win the general but there
will be a lot of mud-slinging in the interim.

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