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Subject: OT. Covid Vaccine Effectiveness
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 by: Dean Hoffman - Thu, 19 May 2022 02:09 UTC

Commentary from John Hinderaker. He has figures from the Healthy Skeptic. Something like
78% of Covid cases are in fully vaccinated people.
Fully vaccinated people account for 67% of hospitalizations according to this. Few deaths, though.
I got both the Moderna shots plus their booster. I figured I'd make a good guinea pig at my age if nothing else.
<https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/vaccination-blues.php>

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 by: John A. Smith - Thu, 19 May 2022 11:32 UTC

On 5/18/2022 10:09 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> Commentary from John Hinderaker. He has figures from the Healthy Skeptic. Something like
> 78% of Covid cases are in fully vaccinated people.
> Fully vaccinated people account for 67% of hospitalizations according to this. Few deaths, though.
> I got both the Moderna shots plus their booster. I figured I'd make a good guinea pig at my age if nothing else.
> <https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/vaccination-blues.php>

I never got the untested experimental clot-shots and I never got the
Fauci-19 disease. The only time I wore a mask was when some bigbox
store mask nazi threatened police action.

Covid was the democrat's scam to enable massive election fraud.

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Subject: Re: OT. Covid Vaccine Effectiveness
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 by: Dean Hoffman - Thu, 19 May 2022 11:56 UTC

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:32:27 AM UTC-5, John A. Smith wrote:
> On 5/18/2022 10:09 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > Commentary from John Hinderaker. He has figures from the Healthy Skeptic. Something like
> > 78% of Covid cases are in fully vaccinated people.
> > Fully vaccinated people account for 67% of hospitalizations according to this. Few deaths, though.
> > I got both the Moderna shots plus their booster. I figured I'd make a good guinea pig at my age if nothing else.
> > <https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/vaccination-blues.php>
> I never got the untested experimental clot-shots and I never got the
> Fauci-19 disease. The only time I wore a mask was when some bigbox
> store mask nazi threatened police action.
>
> Covid was the democrat's scam to enable massive election fraud.

The funeral homes sure had good cash flow for awhile.

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On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 10:09:04 PM UTC-4, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
> Commentary from John Hinderaker. He has figures from the Healthy Skeptic. Something like
> 78% of Covid cases are in fully vaccinated people.
> Fully vaccinated people account for 67% of hospitalizations according to this. Few deaths, though.
> I got both the Moderna shots plus their booster. I figured I'd make a good guinea pig at my age if nothing else.
> <https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/vaccination-blues.php>

Some important things to keep in mind. First, as I understand it, fully vaccinated just
means that you've received the two shots of Moderna or Pfizer or one shot of the J&J.
It doesn't mean that you had a booster shot and from the science we know that a
booster is necessary after about 6 months to keep protection boosted. They should
be collecting better data to reflect that so we could see what difference it makes.

Second, effectiveness against which strain over time is important. Clearly from that
data the vaccines were doing a good job of reducing hospitalizations and deaths in
2021, before Omnicron. From Jan 2022 on, they were much less effective against Omnicron,
which we figured was the case based on early data back then. Third, as of now about
66% of the US population is fully vaccinated, so we have the effect that the higher
the percentage, then the higher the number of breakthrough cases that will wind up
hospitalized or dead. The numbers would have to be adjusted for that. Say we had
99% vaccinated, then you would see numbers like 300 hospitalized vaccinated, 20
unvaccinated. Without adjusting for the above effect, to the casual observer it would
look like the vaccines are causing the hospitalizations.

I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
effective. Former FDA head Gottleib was on one of the Sunday shows a week ago
and he said that sewer monitoring data shows that it's likely the current wave has
peaked. The latest new case data in NYC seems to confirm that, it looks like it's
leveled out. NYC was one of the earliest and fastest risers with this wave.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Thu, 19 May 2022 15:40 UTC

On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
> the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
> that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
> effective.

I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
that.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: T - Thu, 19 May 2022 15:58 UTC

On 5/19/22 04:56, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> The funeral homes sure had good cash flow for awhile.

The butcher of new york sure saw to that. Lets
force infected folks into nursing/rest/retirement
homes. An American Pravda covered for him.

I am not seeing a difference in death rates between
the jabbed and the unjabbed. Data that is not
cooked is hard to find though and I believe that
is why. The issue should have never been monetized
and politicized.

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 by: Frank - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:00 UTC

On 5/19/2022 11:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
>> the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
>> that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
>> effective.
>
> I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
> and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
> that.
>

Same here even though we know vaccine does not prevent you for getting
it. May help survival if I get it and my getting four shots did not
hurt. Would be nice if combined with flu shot in the fall.

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 by: trader_4 - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:18 UTC

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:58:56 AM UTC-4, T wrote:
> On 5/19/22 04:56, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > The funeral homes sure had good cash flow for awhile.
> The butcher of new york sure saw to that. Lets
> force infected folks into nursing/rest/retirement
> homes. An American Pravda covered for him.
>
> I am not seeing a difference in death rates between
> the jabbed and the unjabbed. Data that is not
> cooked is hard to find though and I believe that
> is why. The issue should have never been monetized
> and politicized.

T
Look at the data fromTexas, a Republican run red state:

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status/

They say the unvaccinated have 35 times the death rate. How you square
that with the MN data that Dean linked, IDK. It's also odd that those vaccinated
and boosted appear to have less protection than those without the booster.
But that could be because a lot more sick, elderly people got boosted.

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 by: trader_4 - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:22 UTC

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
> > the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
> > that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
> > effective.
> I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
> and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
> that.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

I'm a bit concerned about how your body may react to getting these
vaccines repeatedly, if there are any long term effects, etc. I haven't
seen any data. If it turns out this latest wave really takes off,
then I probably will, but so far it's still at very modest levels.

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 by: trader_4 - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:26 UTC

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:00:29 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
> On 5/19/2022 11:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
> >> the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
> >> that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
> >> effective.
> >
> > I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
> > and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
> > that.
> >
> Same here even though we know vaccine does not prevent you for getting
> it.

We knew that from the beginning that it didn't prevent you from getting Covid,
but it made a huge difference in whether you would get symptomatic covid
and greatly reduced your chances of a serious case, hospitalization and death
and that was against the original strain. It much less effective against the
current strain, but it looks like it still does reduce infections and certainly
reduces hospitalizations and deaths.

>May help survival

There is no question it has helped survival.

if I get it and my getting four shots did not
> hurt. Would be nice if combined with flu shot in the fall.

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 by: Marilyn Manson - Thu, 19 May 2022 16:38 UTC

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 7:32:27 AM UTC-4, John A. Smith wrote:
> On 5/18/2022 10:09 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > Commentary from John Hinderaker. He has figures from the Healthy Skeptic. Something like
> > 78% of Covid cases are in fully vaccinated people.
> > Fully vaccinated people account for 67% of hospitalizations according to this. Few deaths, though.
> > I got both the Moderna shots plus their booster. I figured I'd make a good guinea pig at my age if nothing else.
> > <https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/vaccination-blues.php>
> I never got the untested experimental clot-shots and I never got the
> Fauci-19 disease. The only time I wore a mask was when some bigbox
> store mask nazi threatened police action.

Anyone that cares about this shit-for-brains' medical history please raise your hand.

Waiting...

Still waiting...

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Thu, 19 May 2022 17:41 UTC

On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
>> > the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
>> > that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
>> > effective.
>> I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
>> and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
>> that.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I'm a bit concerned about how your body may react to getting these
> vaccines repeatedly, if there are any long term effects, etc. I haven't
> seen any data. If it turns out this latest wave really takes off,
> then I probably will, but so far it's still at very modest levels.

I'm more worried about the long-term effects of COVID than I am of the
vaccine.

The health department has my county at high transmission right now.
Looks like it's the highest rate in the state (higher than Detroit).
Dang, I was hoping those dumbass students would take it home with
them when the semester ended.

I've resumed masking, and I'm glad I got that fourth dose.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On 2022-05-19, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@devnull.com> wrote:
> I'm more worried about the long-term effects of COVID than I am of the
> vaccine.

I've had the Red China virus and I've had colds in the past that were worse.
It was a big nothing burger.

> I've resumed masking, and I'm glad I got that fourth dose.

LOL! Trying to stop the spread of a virus with a mask is like trying to
stop a swarm of gnats with a chain link fence. If you can breathe through
a mask it's not going to do diddly squat.

As far as the so-called "vaccines" (which are really experimental gene
therapy), the only way anyone is going to get that poison into my veins
would be to kill me first.

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 by: Bob F - Thu, 19 May 2022 21:22 UTC

On 5/19/2022 10:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
>>>> the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
>>>> that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
>>>> effective.
>>> I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
>>> and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
>>> that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I'm a bit concerned about how your body may react to getting these
>> vaccines repeatedly, if there are any long term effects, etc. I haven't
>> seen any data. If it turns out this latest wave really takes off,
>> then I probably will, but so far it's still at very modest levels.
>
> I'm more worried about the long-term effects of COVID than I am of the
> vaccine.
>
> The health department has my county at high transmission right now.
> Looks like it's the highest rate in the state (higher than Detroit).
> Dang, I was hoping those dumbass students would take it home with
> them when the semester ended.
>
> I've resumed masking, and I'm glad I got that fourth dose.
>

Covid has many serious possible long term effects, for a significant %
(double digits) of the victims. I have heard nothing serious about long
term effects of the vaccine except for health and life, both of which I
consider desirable.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

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On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 5:22:24 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
> On 5/19/2022 10:41 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I got my one booster, currently holding off on a second. That's because while rising,
> >>>> the level is still fairly low, I'm not highly exposed to large groups, this variant is not
> >>>> that severe and new vaccines are in the works for fall which hopefully will be more
> >>>> effective.
> >>> I don't see any reason not to get the second booster. I've had mine,
> >>> and if a new, more effective vaccine comes out in the fall, I'll get
> >>> that.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> I'm a bit concerned about how your body may react to getting these
> >> vaccines repeatedly, if there are any long term effects, etc. I haven't
> >> seen any data. If it turns out this latest wave really takes off,
> >> then I probably will, but so far it's still at very modest levels.
> >
> > I'm more worried about the long-term effects of COVID than I am of the
> > vaccine.
> >
> > The health department has my county at high transmission right now.
> > Looks like it's the highest rate in the state (higher than Detroit).
> > Dang, I was hoping those dumbass students would take it home with
> > them when the semester ended.
> >
> > I've resumed masking, and I'm glad I got that fourth dose.
> >
> Covid has many serious possible long term effects, for a significant %
> (double digits) of the victims. I have heard nothing serious about long
> term effects of the vaccine except for health and life, both of which I
> consider desirable.
>
> https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

And where's the data that shows getting the second booster has a meaningful
impact on avoiding long Covid? We know it's not very effective in preventing
infection. You may not hear anything about possible long
term effects from repeatedly being vaccinated because we've just started doing it
and I doubt there is much interest in even looking for it, because it doesn't fit the
message. You know I'm not anti-vaccine, but when this latest wave is still at
relatively low levels and is showing signs of peaking in NYC where it started
and yet another vaccine is coming in just a few months, I'm not seeing a great
benefit. Even CDC must have some concerns because they are not recommending the
second booster for everyone. My doctor agreed when I asked her about a
month ago whether it was worth it or not. She said, we don't know, wait and see.

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On 5/19/2022 12:38:58 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 7:32:27 AM UTC-4, John A. Smith wrote:
>> On 5/18/2022 10:09 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>> Commentary from John Hinderaker. He has figures from the Healthy Skeptic. Something like
>>> 78% of Covid cases are in fully vaccinated people.
>>> Fully vaccinated people account for 67% of hospitalizations according to this. Few deaths, though.
>>> I got both the Moderna shots plus their booster. I figured I'd make a good guinea pig at my age if nothing else.
>>> <https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/vaccination-blues.php>
>> I never got the untested experimental clot-shots and I never got the
>> Fauci-19 disease. The only time I wore a mask was when some bigbox
>> store mask nazi threatened police action.
>
> Anyone that cares about this shit-for-brains' medical history please raise your hand.
>
>
> Waiting...
>
>
> Still waiting...

Democrats love ad hominem.

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On 5/19/2022 3:16 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2022-05-19, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@devnull.com> wrote:
>> I'm more worried about the long-term effects of COVID than I am of the
>> vaccine.
>
> I've had the Red China virus and I've had colds in the past that were worse.
> It was a big nothing burger.
>
>> I've resumed masking, and I'm glad I got that fourth dose.
>
> LOL! Trying to stop the spread of a virus with a mask is like trying to
> stop a swarm of gnats with a chain link fence. If you can breathe through
> a mask it's not going to do diddly squat.
>
> As far as the so-called "vaccines" (which are really experimental gene
> therapy), the only way anyone is going to get that poison into my veins
> would be to kill me first.
>

I will take any attempt to vaccinate me as an attempt upon my life
and/or well-being , and react accordingly . I promise not to kill 'em
unless I have to ... Those of you who have chosen to take the shot are
welcome to do so . I prefer to keep the immune system I was born with
instead of buying it from Big Pharma . Don't believe me ? Just wait ,
the truth will come out .
--
Snag
My rights don't end
where your fears begin .

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On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:07:02 -0500, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

> I will take any attempt to vaccinate me as an attempt upon my life
>and/or well-being , and react accordingly .

There's an episode of Andy Griffith that directly deals with an ignorant
country bumpkin who's afraid to get an immunization. I don't know why I
just thought about that.

> I promise not to kill 'em
>unless I have to ... Those of you who have chosen to take the shot are
>welcome to do so . I prefer to keep the immune system I was born with
>instead of buying it from Big Pharma . Don't believe me ? Just wait ,
>the truth will come out .

Muggles used to say the same thing about her immune system.

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On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> And where's the data that shows getting the second booster has a meaningful
> impact on avoiding long Covid? We know it's not very effective in preventing
> infection. You may not hear anything about possible long
> term effects from repeatedly being vaccinated because we've just started doing it
> and I doubt there is much interest in even looking for it, because it doesn't fit the
> message. You know I'm not anti-vaccine, but when this latest wave is still at
> relatively low levels and is showing signs of peaking in NYC where it started
> and yet another vaccine is coming in just a few months, I'm not seeing a great
> benefit. Even CDC must have some concerns because they are not recommending the
> second booster for everyone. My doctor agreed when I asked her about a
> month ago whether it was worth it or not. She said, we don't know, wait and see.

I don't live in New York City. It might have peaked here (too early to
tell), but it was still on the uptick when I got my booster on April 10.

My husband's allergist (whom he sees every week) strongly recommended
it for him, and I'd be a fool to risk his life when a little jab might
prevent me getting it and transmitting it to him.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On 2022-05-20, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>
> I will take any attempt to vaccinate me as an attempt upon my life
> and/or well-being , and react accordingly . I promise not to kill 'em
> unless I have to ... Those of you who have chosen to take the shot are
> welcome to do so . I prefer to keep the immune system I was born with
> instead of buying it from Big Pharma . Don't believe me ? Just wait ,
> the truth will come out .

When Bill Gates lands his black helicopter at your place and jabs you
with his mind-control chips, I hope you give him "a taste of the grape".

You already don't have the immune system you were born with, BTW.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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On 5/20/2022 3:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-20, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> I will take any attempt to vaccinate me as an attempt upon my life
>> and/or well-being , and react accordingly . I promise not to kill 'em
>> unless I have to ... Those of you who have chosen to take the shot are
>> welcome to do so . I prefer to keep the immune system I was born with
>> instead of buying it from Big Pharma . Don't believe me ? Just wait ,
>> the truth will come out .
>
> When Bill Gates lands his black helicopter at your place and jabs you
> with his mind-control chips, I hope you give him "a taste of the grape".
>
> You already don't have the immune system you were born with, BTW.
>

Bill won't land here , too hilly . He'll send his minions in their
white suits with the blue helmets .
Yes , I DO know that . My immune system has been improved and
strengthened by exposure to many different threats - which it has
successfully fought off on it's own . I don't go running to the doctor
every time I stub my toe like many people do . OHMYGOD , Johnny has a
sniffle ! HURRY , get him to the emergency room !
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Snag
My rights don't end
where your fears begin .

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On 5/20/2022 3:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> And where's the data that shows getting the second booster has a meaningful
>> impact on avoiding long Covid? We know it's not very effective in preventing
>> infection. You may not hear anything about possible long
>> term effects from repeatedly being vaccinated because we've just started doing it
>> and I doubt there is much interest in even looking for it, because it doesn't fit the
>> message. You know I'm not anti-vaccine, but when this latest wave is still at
>> relatively low levels and is showing signs of peaking in NYC where it started
>> and yet another vaccine is coming in just a few months, I'm not seeing a great
>> benefit. Even CDC must have some concerns because they are not recommending the
>> second booster for everyone. My doctor agreed when I asked her about a
>> month ago whether it was worth it or not. She said, we don't know, wait and see.
>
> I don't live in New York City. It might have peaked here (too early to
> tell), but it was still on the uptick when I got my booster on April 10.
>
> My husband's allergist (whom he sees every week) strongly recommended
> it for him, and I'd be a fool to risk his life when a little jab might
> prevent me getting it and transmitting it to him.
>

Except that it WON'T keep you from getting it . Where have you been ,
reports are saying that over 80% of cases are among the multiple jabbed .
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My rights don't end
where your fears begin .

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Fri, 20 May 2022 11:58 UTC

On 2022-05-20, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
> On 5/20/2022 3:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-20, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will take any attempt to vaccinate me as an attempt upon my life
>>> and/or well-being , and react accordingly . I promise not to kill 'em
>>> unless I have to ... Those of you who have chosen to take the shot are
>>> welcome to do so . I prefer to keep the immune system I was born with
>>> instead of buying it from Big Pharma . Don't believe me ? Just wait ,
>>> the truth will come out .
>>
>> When Bill Gates lands his black helicopter at your place and jabs you
>> with his mind-control chips, I hope you give him "a taste of the grape".
>>
>> You already don't have the immune system you were born with, BTW.
>>
>
> Bill won't land here , too hilly . He'll send his minions in their
> white suits with the blue helmets .
> Yes , I DO know that . My immune system has been improved and
> strengthened by exposure to many different threats - which it has
> successfully fought off on it's own . I don't go running to the doctor
> every time I stub my toe like many people do . OHMYGOD , Johnny has a
> sniffle ! HURRY , get him to the emergency room !

Did you receive any childhood vaccinations? Polio? Smallpox?

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On 2022-05-20, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
> On 5/20/2022 3:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-05-19, trader_4 <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> And where's the data that shows getting the second booster has a meaningful
>>> impact on avoiding long Covid? We know it's not very effective in preventing
>>> infection. You may not hear anything about possible long
>>> term effects from repeatedly being vaccinated because we've just started doing it
>>> and I doubt there is much interest in even looking for it, because it doesn't fit the
>>> message. You know I'm not anti-vaccine, but when this latest wave is still at
>>> relatively low levels and is showing signs of peaking in NYC where it started
>>> and yet another vaccine is coming in just a few months, I'm not seeing a great
>>> benefit. Even CDC must have some concerns because they are not recommending the
>>> second booster for everyone. My doctor agreed when I asked her about a
>>> month ago whether it was worth it or not. She said, we don't know, wait and see.
>>
>> I don't live in New York City. It might have peaked here (too early to
>> tell), but it was still on the uptick when I got my booster on April 10.
>>
>> My husband's allergist (whom he sees every week) strongly recommended
>> it for him, and I'd be a fool to risk his life when a little jab might
>> prevent me getting it and transmitting it to him.
>>
>
> Except that it WON'T keep you from getting it . Where have you been ,
> reports are saying that over 80% of cases are among the multiple jabbed .

That gives me a 20% chance of not getting it, or not getting a severe
enough case for it to be a problem. I'll take those odds.

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On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 10:57:15 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 20:07:02 -0500, Snag <snag...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > I will take any attempt to vaccinate me as an attempt upon my life
> >and/or well-being , and react accordingly .
> There's an episode of Andy Griffith that directly deals with an ignorant
> country bumpkin who's afraid to get an immunization. I don't know why I
> just thought about that.

I know that episode, it;s the one where Andy goes out there with
the pretty county nurse.

> > I promise not to kill 'em
> >unless I have to ... Those of you who have chosen to take the shot are
> >welcome to do so . I prefer to keep the immune system I was born with
> >instead of buying it from Big Pharma . Don't believe me ? Just wait ,
> >the truth will come out .
> Muggles used to say the same thing about her immune system.

Did anyone figure out for sure what happened to her?

What do you think would have happened with these people and the
vaccines if Trump had won? It seems pretty good bet that Trump would
have pushed the vaccines, he sure was trying to take all the credit for
then in his last couple of months. Remember the victory lap at the WH,
the one that the CEOs of the vaccine companies refused to attend?
Trump was desperate to get the economy booming, so I would expect
that he would want as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible.
And he surely doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything other than
himself, so it would have been interesting to see how this would have
played out. My bet, Trump would have pushed the vaccine, would have
gotten publicly vaccinated and the Trumpets would have fallen right in
line and eagerly taken the Trump miracle vaccine.

Also interesting, I'm reading Woodward's book, Rage, about Trump
up to just before the election. Nothing much really new there that is
big, except that Woodward heard from those in the WH the theory that
China deliberately allowed the virus to spread outside China to screw
the rest of the world. He asked Trump about that and Trump said he
was actually the leader of that group. Another interesting thing that
I had not heard before was that on a visit to Pearl Harbor, Kelly and others
were shocked that Trump knew little about the history there either.
If you want a movie to go with that one, Trump sounds like Bluto played
by Belushi in Animal House. He was making a rambling speech where
he said something like, "did we give up when the Germans bombed
Pearl Harbor"?

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