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 by: NoBody - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:09 UTC

On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 16:22:56 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>>2022
>>> 31 Jan 910,104 (+63,199)
>>> 28 Feb 975,150 (+65,046)
>>> 31 Mar 1,007,320 (+32,170)
>>> 30 Apr 1,020,833 (+13,513)
>>> 31 May 1,031,613 (+10,780)
>>> 30 Jun 1,042,678 (+11,065)
>>> 31 Jul 1,055,059 (+12,381)
>>> 31 Aug 1,071,420 (+16,361)
>>> 30 Sep 1,084,803 (+13,383)
>>> 31 Oct 1,095,315 (+10,512)
>>> 30 Nov 1,105,546 (+10,231)
>>> 31 Dec 1,117,983 (+12,437)
>>>
>>><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>>
>>Are these numbers "with covid" or "from covid"?
>> ...
>
>From COVID-19. 400 deaths per day. For right-wing
>whackjobs that's 100 Benghazi!!!s per day.
>
> --bks
>

Citation required. Your reputation for dishonest is well known.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13 UTC

Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> ...
>Citation required.
> ...

The citation was given! Did your training
in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?

--bks

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 23:06 UTC

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>Citation required.
>> ...
>
>The citation was given! Did your training
>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>
> --bks

A standard practice of Nobody is to delete cites then accuse you of
never having posted them. We all know this about him/her/it.

Swill
NP: Oingo Boingo, "Dead Man's Party"
--
"Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>Citation required.
>> ...
>
>The citation was given! Did your training
>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>
> --bks

The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
Covid. Bradley the weasle earns his rep once again.

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 by: NoBody - Tue, 3 Jan 2023 12:24 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 18:06:17 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>Citation required.
>>> ...
>>
>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>
>> --bks
>
>A standard practice of Nobody is to delete cites then accuse you of
>never having posted them. We all know this about him/her/it.
>

More irony from Swilly. Also note that it was BRADLEY who snipped the
cite, not me. BTW, Bradley's cite did not answer the question.
>Swill
>NP: Oingo Boingo, "Dead Man's Party"

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07 UTC

Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>Citation required.
>>> ...
>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>
>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>Covid. ...

Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?

--bks

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 by: Josh Rosenbluth - Tue, 3 Jan 2023 17:03 UTC

On 1/3/2023 4:23 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Citation required.
>>> ...
>>
>> The citation was given! Did your training
>> in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>
>> --bks
>
> The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
> Covid. Bradley the weasle earns his rep once again.
The citation claims the people died from COVID (ditto for other sources
such as Johns Hopkins and the CDC). You don't believe it and never will.

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 by: NoBody - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:23 UTC

On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>
>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>Citation required.
>>>> ...
>>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>
>>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>Covid. ...
>
>Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>
> --bks

Cite the language (if you can).

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43 UTC

Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>
>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>Citation required.
>>>>> ...
>>>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>
>>>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>Covid. ...
>>
>>Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>
>Cite the language (if you can).

Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
|
| ABSTRACT
|
| The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
| death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
| (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
| formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
| independent review of clinical features of patients who
| died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
| SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
| Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
| with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
| COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
| death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
| (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
| radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
| retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
| that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
| with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
| of COVID-19 infection.
|

--bks

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 13:57 UTC

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>
>>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>Citation required.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>
>>>>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>Covid. ...
>>>
>>>Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>
>>Cite the language (if you can).
>
>Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
> |
> | ABSTRACT
> |
> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
> | of COVID-19 infection.
> |
>
> --bks

"died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.. How many had no
complicating problems? IOW, how many normal, healthy people "died as
a direct consequence of COVID-19 infection." Filter that data by
age..

That was rhetorical question. I know you can't do that, so I'll just
ignore your "fuzzy" data.

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:10 UTC

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>
>>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>Citation required.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>
>>>>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>Covid. ...
>>>
>>>Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>
>>Cite the language (if you can).
>
>Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
> |
> | ABSTRACT
> |
> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
> | of COVID-19 infection.
> |
>
> --bks

Facts don't matter to them. Only belief.

Swill
--
"Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:19 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jan 2023 Blue Lives Matter, a known liar wrote:

>"died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.

So is your woman's puss but you fuck it anyway, don't you, asshole?

Swill
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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 14:21 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jan 2023 08:57:10 -0500, Blue Lives Matter wrote:

>"died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.. How many had no
>complicating problems? IOW, how many normal, healthy people "died as
>a direct consequence of COVID-19 infection." Filter that data by
>age..

Oh, so we don't have to worry about Covid because in your uninformed
opinion because people who are too old, too young or just right don't
matter?

Swill
--
"Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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 by: Josh Rosenbluth - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 15:09 UTC

On 1/4/2023 5:57 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Citation required.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>> in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>>
>>>>> The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>> Covid. ...
>>>>
>>>> Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>> at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>>
>>> Cite the language (if you can).
>>
>> Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>> your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
>> |
>> | ABSTRACT
>> |
>> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
>> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
>> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
>> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
>> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
>> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
>> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
>> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
>> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
>> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
>> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
>> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
>> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
>> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
>> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
>> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
>> | of COVID-19 infection.
>> |
>>
>> --bks
>
> "died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.. How many had no
> complicating problems? IOW, how many normal, healthy people "died as
> a direct consequence of COVID-19 infection." Filter that data by
> age..
>
> That was rhetorical question. I know you can't do that, so I'll just
> ignore your "fuzzy" data.

Excess deaths closely tracked with deaths attributed to COVID:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm which
strongly suggests the numbers on COVID deaths are accurate.

Note while some deaths attributed to COVID really weren't caused by
COVID, others due to COVID were not attributed to COVID. Based on excess
deaths, the two seem to cancel each other out.

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:14 UTC

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 07:09:34 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 1/4/2023 5:57 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Citation required.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>>> in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>>> Covid. ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>>> at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>>>
>>>> Cite the language (if you can).
>>>
>>> Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>>> your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
>>> |
>>> | ABSTRACT
>>> |
>>> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
>>> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
>>> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
>>> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
>>> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
>>> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
>>> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
>>> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
>>> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
>>> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
>>> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
>>> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
>>> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
>>> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
>>> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
>>> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
>>> | of COVID-19 infection.
>>> |
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>> "died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.. How many had no
>> complicating problems? IOW, how many normal, healthy people "died as
>> a direct consequence of COVID-19 infection." Filter that data by
>> age..
>>
>> That was rhetorical question. I know you can't do that, so I'll just
>> ignore your "fuzzy" data.
>
>Excess deaths closely tracked with deaths attributed to COVID:
>https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm which
>strongly suggests the numbers on COVID deaths are accurate.
>
>Note while some deaths attributed to COVID really weren't caused by
>COVID, others due to COVID were not attributed to COVID. Based on excess
>deaths, the two seem to cancel each other out.

Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
CDC says.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:27 UTC

Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
> ...
>Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
>CDC says.

There are two possible reasons for that:
1. You have no imagination;
2. You're a moron.

They're not mutually exclusive.

--bks

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:30 UTC

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:27:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>> ...
>>Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
>>CDC says.
>
>There are two possible reasons for that:
> 1. You have no imagination;
> 2. You're a moron.
>
>They're not mutually exclusive.
>
> --bks

I don't believe everything I'm told because I'm not a leftist group
thinker like you.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:37 UTC

Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:27:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
>>>CDC says.
>>
>>There are two possible reasons for that:
>> 1. You have no imagination;
>> 2. You're a moron.
>>
>>They're not mutually exclusive.
>>
>I don't believe everything I'm told because I'm not a leftist group
>thinker like you.

Har! That's very different from what you wrote. Glad to see
that you are learning.

--bks

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 by: Josh Rosenbluth - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:43 UTC

On 1/4/2023 8:14 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 07:09:34 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/4/2023 5:57 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> Sherman) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Citation required.
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>>>> in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>>>> Covid. ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>>>> at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cite the language (if you can).
>>>>
>>>> Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>>>> your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
>>>> |
>>>> | ABSTRACT
>>>> |
>>>> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
>>>> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
>>>> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
>>>> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
>>>> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
>>>> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
>>>> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
>>>> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
>>>> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
>>>> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
>>>> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
>>>> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
>>>> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
>>>> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
>>>> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
>>>> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
>>>> | of COVID-19 infection.
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>> "died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.. How many had no
>>> complicating problems? IOW, how many normal, healthy people "died as
>>> a direct consequence of COVID-19 infection." Filter that data by
>>> age..
>>>
>>> That was rhetorical question. I know you can't do that, so I'll just
>>> ignore your "fuzzy" data.
>>
>> Excess deaths closely tracked with deaths attributed to COVID:
>> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm which
>> strongly suggests the numbers on COVID deaths are accurate.
>>
>> Note while some deaths attributed to COVID really weren't caused by
>> COVID, others due to COVID were not attributed to COVID. Based on excess
>> deaths, the two seem to cancel each other out.
>
>
> Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
> CDC says.

Tin-foil hat time.

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 by: Nem Tudom - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:53 UTC

On 1/4/2023 8:14 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:

> Sorry, I can't think
Yes, that's obvious.

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 18:31 UTC

On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:37:29 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:27:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
>>>>CDC says.
>>>
>>>There are two possible reasons for that:
>>> 1. You have no imagination;
>>> 2. You're a moron.
>>>
>>>They're not mutually exclusive.
>>>
>>I don't believe everything I'm told because I'm not a leftist group
>>thinker like you.
>
>Har! That's very different from what you wrote.

That's precisely what I wrote, Dummy.

> Glad to see
>that you are learning.
>
> --bks
>

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 19:19 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jan 2023 11:14:55 -0500, Blue Lives Matter
<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

>Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
>CDC says.

I'm tired of these fucking trolls.

If you really, really believe what you just wrote
*click*
--
"Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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 by: Siri Cruise - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 03:15 UTC

In article <tp49e2$9bg$1@reader2.panix.com>,
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

> Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
> > ...
> >Sorry, I can't think of single reason why I would believe anything the
> >CDC says.
>
> There are two possible reasons for that:
> 1. You have no imagination;
> 2. You're a moron.
>
> They're not mutually exclusive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB0SxXTR_UI

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On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>
>>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>Citation required.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>
>>>>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>Covid. ...
>>>
>>>Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>
>>Cite the language (if you can).
>
>Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
> |
> | ABSTRACT
> |
> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
> | of COVID-19 infection.
> |
>
> --bks

Uh Bradley your own citation proved me correct (but since you didn't
cite to *this* I can't see if it's from your original citation or a
completely different work. Thus Bradley continues his dishonestly.

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 by: NoBody - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 12:10 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jan 2023 08:57:10 -0500, Blue Lives Matter
<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 12:43:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:07:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 16:13:13 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>Citation required.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>The citation was given! Did your training
>>>>>>in Moscow omit how to navigate with URLs?
>>>>>
>>>>>The citation did not make the distinction between from Covid and with
>>>>>Covid. ...
>>>>
>>>>Yes it did. I guess you did not read the complete set of publications
>>>>at the foot of the page. Or maybe English is too hard for you?
>>>
>>>Cite the language (if you can).
>>
>>Because it's important to all of us that you, your family, and
>>your Russian overlords wear their masks, I will indulge you:
>> |
>> | ABSTRACT
>> |
>> | The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is accompanied by an ever-rising
>> | death toll attributed to coronavirus disease 2019
>> | (COVID-19), but questions have persisted regarding deaths
>> | formally attributed to COVID-19. We aimed to provide an
>> | independent review of clinical features of patients who
>> | died during hospitalisation with a positive PCR test for
>> | SARS-CoV-2 and relate these to the reported cause of death.
>> | Between 23 March and 28 April 2020, a total of 162 patients
>> | with a positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died in our NHS trust.
>> | COVID-19 infection was documented as the direct cause of
>> | death in 150 (93%). Review of the records revealed 138
>> | (92%) patients had pulmonary infiltrates on chest
>> | radiography, and 146 (97%) required oxygen therapy. This
>> | retrospective review of cause of death has demonstrated
>> | that the overwhelming majority of hospitalised patients
>> | with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR died as a direct consequence
>> | of COVID-19 infection.
>> |
>>
>> --bks
>
>"died as a direct consequence" is pretty fuzzy.. How many had no
>complicating problems? IOW, how many normal, healthy people "died as
>a direct consequence of COVID-19 infection." Filter that data by
>age..
>
>That was rhetorical question. I know you can't do that, so I'll just
>ignore your "fuzzy" data.

I do love that Bradley, in attempting to prove me wrong, proved me
correct.

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