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From: os3...@netc.eu (Oleg Smirnov)
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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:00 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/yej5khxy> nytimes.com

The slowdown in population growth is .. a net negative for the U.S. ..
The decline in the birthrate .. is partly a reflection of American
society's failure to support families. ..

A second problem with slow population growth involves global affairs.
... To have any hope of keeping up with China and its vastly larger
population, the U.S. will probably need bigger population increases ..
Viewed in these terms, the population slowdown is a threat to national
security. ..

....

No hope of keeping up for America.

> <http://tinyurl.com/ybj2266z>
>
> .. America really is screwed ..

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From: non...@present.com (M I Wakefield)
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 by: M I Wakefield - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:12 UTC

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:00:04 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
wrote:

><https://tinyurl.com/yej5khxy> nytimes.com
>
>The slowdown in population growth is .. a net negative for the U.S. ..
>The decline in the birthrate .. is partly a reflection of American
>society's failure to support families. ..
>
>A second problem with slow population growth involves global affairs.
>.. To have any hope of keeping up with China and its vastly larger
>population, the U.S. will probably need bigger population increases ..
>Viewed in these terms, the population slowdown is a threat to national
>security. ..

Russia had a population of 142.8 million according to the 2010 census,
which rose to 146.7 million as of 2020. ... The overall life
expectancy in Russia at birth is 73.2 years (68.2 years for males and
78.0 years for females). Since the 1990s, Russia's death rate has
exceeded its birth rate.

For comparrison, the US population went from 308.7 million in 2010 to
331.4 million in 2020 ... 2.7 times the growth rate of Russia.

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 by: Bill Flett - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:22 UTC

On 4/27/2021 12:12 PM, M I Wakefield wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:00:04 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/yej5khxy> nytimes.com
>>
>> The slowdown in population growth is .. a net negative for the U.S. ..
>> The decline in the birthrate .. is partly a reflection of American
>> society's failure to support families. ..
>>
>> A second problem with slow population growth involves global affairs.
>> .. To have any hope of keeping up with China and its vastly larger
>> population, the U.S. will probably need bigger population increases ..
>> Viewed in these terms, the population slowdown is a threat to national
>> security. ..
>
>
> Russia had a population of 142.8 million according to the 2010 census,
> which rose to 146.7 million as of 2020. ... The overall life
> expectancy in Russia at birth is 73.2 years (68.2 years for males and
> 78.0 years for females). Since the 1990s, Russia's death rate has
> exceeded its birth rate.
>
> For comparrison, the US population went from 308.7 million in 2010 to
> 331.4 million in 2020 ... 2.7 times the growth rate of Russia.
>

The most likely scenario over the next 25 years is that Russia's population will
decline to about 143 million.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1009186/russia-population-projection-by-scenario/

Of course, be mindful of Casey Stengel's perhaps apocryphal advice:

"Never make predictions, especially about the future."

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:21 UTC

M I Wankfield, <news:j8og8g9jk2ug8oum52gki1r8aosjsnmrm7@4ax.com>

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| According to a new report by U.S. Department |
| of Health and Human Services, M I Wakefield is |
| a Canadian serial pooper and fake news poster |
+------------------------------------------------+

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:00:04 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>

>> <https://tinyurl.com/yej5khxy> nytimes.com
>>
>> The slowdown in population growth is .. a net negative for the U.S. ..
>> The decline in the birthrate .. is partly a reflection of American
>> society's failure to support families. ..
>>
>> A second problem with slow population growth involves global affairs.
>> .. To have any hope of keeping up with China and its vastly larger
>> population, the U.S. will probably need bigger population increases ..
>> Viewed in these terms, the population slowdown is a threat to national
>> security. ..

No hope of keeping up [with China] for America.

Now let's talk about Russia.

> Russia had a population of 142.8 million according to the 2010 census,
> which rose to 146.7 million as of 2020. ... The overall life
> expectancy in Russia at birth is 73.2 years (68.2 years for males and
> 78.0 years for females). Since the 1990s, Russia's death rate has
> exceeded its birth rate.
>
> For comparrison, the US population went from 308.7 million in 2010 to
> 331.4 million in 2020 ... 2.7 times the growth rate of Russia.

Russia has long accustomed to live without population growth.
For America, it will require quite a painful rearrangement.
Russian life expectancy in is on steady rise, American in decline.

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 by: M I Wakefield - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 20:54 UTC

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:21:59 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
wrote:

>Russia has long accustomed to live without population growth.

"Russia has been in decline for a long time" is not the winning
argument you think it is.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 21:07 UTC

M I Wankfield, <news:5fug8g10okl35na2jf2tuglkmf7tvq13ja@4ax.com>

+------------------------------------------------+
| According to a new report by U.S. Department |
| of Health and Human Services, M I Wakefield is |
| a Canadian serial pooper and fake news poster |
+------------------------------------------------+

> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:21:59 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>

>> Russia has long accustomed to live without population growth.
>
> "Russia has been in decline for a long time"

In your wet dreams, Wankie.

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 by: Byker - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 16:19 UTC

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:s69o9f$4o4$1@os.motzarella.org...
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> Now let's talk about Russia.

Oleg the electrician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr78IoO0iGc&t=38s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsL56gvWXC4&t=60s

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 by: Byker - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:03 UTC

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:s69n07$ht3$1@os.motzarella.org...
>
> <https://tinyurl.com/yej5khxy> nytimes.com
>
> The slowdown in population growth is .. a net negative for the U.S. ..

They can have our illegal aliens if they like:

https://warsawinstitute.org/russian-population-declines-rapidly-kremlin-faces-demographic-crisis/

https://warontherocks.com/2020/02/russian-demographics-and-power-does-the-kremlin-have-a-long-game/

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-demographic-data-dip-as-small-1990s-generation-comes-of-age/30373049.html

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 04:43 UTC

Byker the Shithead, <news:aL6dnZbMYbiKFhT9nZ2dnUU7-RXNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
> "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:s69o9f$4o4$1@os.motzarella.org...

> Oleg the electrician:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr78IoO0iGc&t=38s
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsL56gvWXC4&t=60s

Watch Byker <https://youtu.be/ICICFr1-Ves>

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