For those who don't have Festools, the dust port on the OF-1010 router
is oval and doesn't fit the hoses very well. The round 27mm hose end
has to be forced around the oval port.

For those who do, I found this adapter. It works really well.

<https://www.ebay.com/itm/265073864218?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3De7ba0f708bbc4ac3ac8600bf2e62e282%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D264823814169%26itm%3D265073864218%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DFestool&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219>

I'm surprised Festool doesn't sell it. The price is about right.

On 5/17/2021 8:02 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
> For those who don't have Festools, the dust port on the OF-1010 router
> is oval and doesn't fit the hoses very well. The round 27mm hose end
> has to be forced around the oval port.
>
> For those who do, I found this adapter. It works really well.
>
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/265073864218?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3De7ba0f708bbc4ac3ac8600bf2e62e282%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D264823814169%26itm%3D265073864218%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DFestool&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219>
>
> I'm surprised Festool doesn't sell it. The price is about right.
>

Cool!

Have you seen the Rockler adapter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJevOIcciU

But probably has to be used with the Rockler hoses. ;~(

On Tue, 18 May 2021 08:28:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 5/17/2021 8:02 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>
>> For those who don't have Festools, the dust port on the OF-1010 router
>> is oval and doesn't fit the hoses very well. The round 27mm hose end
>> has to be forced around the oval port.
>>
>> For those who do, I found this adapter. It works really well.
>>
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/265073864218?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3De7ba0f708bbc4ac3ac8600bf2e62e282%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D264823814169%26itm%3D265073864218%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DFestool&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219>
>>
>> I'm surprised Festool doesn't sell it. The price is about right.
>>
>
>
>
>Cool!
>
>Have you seen the Rockler adapter?
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJevOIcciU
>
>But probably has to be used with the Rockler hoses. ;~(

I bought one just before I found this. It needs and adapter for the
adapter. It's not really useful. The Rockler hose would need an
adapter at the other end too. I probably would have tried to make it
work but I saw the above first. It's a much cleaner solution.

On 5/18/2021 10:57 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 2021 08:28:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/17/2021 8:02 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>
>>> For those who don't have Festools, the dust port on the OF-1010 router
>>> is oval and doesn't fit the hoses very well. The round 27mm hose end
>>> has to be forced around the oval port.
>>>
>>> For those who do, I found this adapter. It works really well.
>>>
>>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/265073864218?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3De7ba0f708bbc4ac3ac8600bf2e62e282%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D264823814169%26itm%3D265073864218%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DFestool&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219>
>>>
>>> I'm surprised Festool doesn't sell it. The price is about right.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cool!
>>
>> Have you seen the Rockler adapter?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJevOIcciU
>>
>> But probably has to be used with the Rockler hoses. ;~(
>
> I bought one just before I found this. It needs and adapter for the
> adapter. It's not really useful. The Rockler hose would need an
> adapter at the other end too. I probably would have tried to make it
> work but I saw the above first. It's a much cleaner solution.
>

One has to wonder why there are oval ports.

On Tue, 18 May 2021 15:08:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 5/18/2021 10:57 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 08:28:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2021 8:02 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For those who don't have Festools, the dust port on the OF-1010 router
>>>> is oval and doesn't fit the hoses very well. The round 27mm hose end
>>>> has to be forced around the oval port.
>>>>
>>>> For those who do, I found this adapter. It works really well.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/265073864218?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3De7ba0f708bbc4ac3ac8600bf2e62e282%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D264823814169%26itm%3D265073864218%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DFestool&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219>
>>>>
>>>> I'm surprised Festool doesn't sell it. The price is about right.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> Have you seen the Rockler adapter?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJevOIcciU
>>>
>>> But probably has to be used with the Rockler hoses. ;~(
>>
>> I bought one just before I found this. It needs and adapter for the
>> adapter. It's not really useful. The Rockler hose would need an
>> adapter at the other end too. I probably would have tried to make it
>> work but I saw the above first. It's a much cleaner solution.
>>
>
>
>One has to wonder why there are oval ports.

I looked at the Rockler end again, just to remind myself why I didn't
think it was a good solution. The OD(*) of the Vac end of the adapter
is the same as the OD (circumvented since it's an oval) of the Festool
27mm hose end. It would take a F-F coupler to mate the two. It could
be a small piece of the Rockler hose but the whole thing getting
pretty long at this point. I thought it would be awkward, at least,

(*) It's hard to tell, exactly, since it's threaded, intended to
thread into their hose. THis meant that the ID of the Rockler hose
may not fit exactly on the 27mm hose. More kludging may be necessary.

I think it's an oval port to clear the workpiece better. The dust
port is pretty low on the router base. I suppose they could have made
the base thicker but that has its own problems.

On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.

Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".

On 5/18/2021 5:58 PM, Bob D wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
>
> Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".
>

Yeah! What you said. ;~) I have to think no room for a round port on
the base unless they made it much smaller.

On 5/18/2021 4:24 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 2021 15:08:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2021 10:57 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 08:28:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2021 8:02 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who don't have Festools, the dust port on the OF-1010 router
>>>>> is oval and doesn't fit the hoses very well. The round 27mm hose end
>>>>> has to be forced around the oval port.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who do, I found this adapter. It works really well.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/265073864218?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3De7ba0f708bbc4ac3ac8600bf2e62e282%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D264823814169%26itm%3D265073864218%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DFestool&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised Festool doesn't sell it. The price is about right.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cool!
>>>>
>>>> Have you seen the Rockler adapter?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJevOIcciU
>>>>
>>>> But probably has to be used with the Rockler hoses. ;~(
>>>
>>> I bought one just before I found this. It needs and adapter for the
>>> adapter. It's not really useful. The Rockler hose would need an
>>> adapter at the other end too. I probably would have tried to make it
>>> work but I saw the above first. It's a much cleaner solution.
>>>
>>
>>
>> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
>
> I looked at the Rockler end again, just to remind myself why I didn't
> think it was a good solution. The OD(*) of the Vac end of the adapter
> is the same as the OD (circumvented since it's an oval) of the Festool
> 27mm hose end. It would take a F-F coupler to mate the two. It could
> be a small piece of the Rockler hose but the whole thing getting
> pretty long at this point. I thought it would be awkward, at least,
>
> (*) It's hard to tell, exactly, since it's threaded, intended to
> thread into their hose. THis meant that the ID of the Rockler hose
> may not fit exactly on the 27mm hose. More kludging may be necessary.
>
> I think it's an oval port to clear the workpiece better. The dust
> port is pretty low on the router base. I suppose they could have made
> the base thicker but that has its own problems.
>

I looked again too, at your original. I bet the round Festool hose is
suppose to leak around that oval port on the router base.
That way the dust that escapes the out side of the router gets sucked in
by the leaking hose connection. ,~) Or not.

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 5/18/2021 5:58 PM, Bob D wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
> >
> > Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".
> >
> Yeah! What you said. ;~) I have to think no room for a round port on
> the base unless they made it much smaller.

That sounds reasonable. The dust port on the body of DW411 sander is a very thin slot.
To convert that to a round hose connection port would take a pretty big "circle".

This is the DW411, with no built in port for a hose.

https://tehnoskarb.ua/images/tehnoskarb/smallImage/2/4/649224.jpg

They must have gotten some feedback because the newer models convert that
slot to a round port via a modification to the body of the tool. Seems like Festool
could do this if they wanted to:

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224453044223_/Dewalt-DWE6411-1-4-Sheet-Palm-Grip-Corded-Heavy.jpg

On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 5/18/2021 5:58 PM, Bob D wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
>> >
>> > Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".
>> >
>> Yeah! What you said. ;~) I have to think no room for a round port on
>> the base unless they made it much smaller.
>
>That sounds reasonable. The dust port on the body of DW411 sander is a very thin slot.
>To convert that to a round hose connection port would take a pretty big "circle".
>
>This is the DW411, with no built in port for a hose.
>
>https://tehnoskarb.ua/images/tehnoskarb/smallImage/2/4/649224.jpg
>
>They must have gotten some feedback because the newer models convert that
>slot to a round port via a modification to the body of the tool. Seems like Festool
>could do this if they wanted to:
>
>https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224453044223_/Dewalt-DWE6411-1-4-Sheet-Palm-Grip-Corded-Heavy.jpg
>
The dust port is very high. On a router there is a large space
between the motor and the cutting edge.

<https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-4b75b/images/stencil/608x608/products/3238/7422/pcc_of1010_000000_a_01a__33205.1467291950.jpg?c=2>

The larger OF-1400 router has a hood that snaps over/around the bit to
do the same thing. It's really a PIA because it's always falling out.

<https://colorex.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/festool-router-of-1400-w.jpg>

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:47:53 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> >> On 5/18/2021 5:58 PM, Bob D wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> >> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".
> >> >
> >> Yeah! What you said. ;~) I have to think no room for a round port on
> >> the base unless they made it much smaller.
> >
> >That sounds reasonable. The dust port on the body of DW411 sander is a very thin slot.
> >To convert that to a round hose connection port would take a pretty big "circle".
> >
> >This is the DW411, with no built in port for a hose.
> >
> >https://tehnoskarb.ua/images/tehnoskarb/smallImage/2/4/649224.jpg
> >
> >They must have gotten some feedback because the newer models convert that
> >slot to a round port via a modification to the body of the tool. Seems like Festool
> >could do this if they wanted to:
> >
> >https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224453044223_/Dewalt-DWE6411-1-4-Sheet-Palm-Grip-Corded-Heavy.jpg
> >
> The dust port is very high. On a router there is a large space
> between the motor and the cutting edge.
>
> <https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-4b75b/images/stencil/608x608/products/3238/7422/pcc_of1010_000000_a_01a__33205.1467291950.jpg?c=2>
>
> The larger OF-1400 router has a hood that snaps over/around the bit to
> do the same thing. It's really a PIA because it's always falling out.
>
> <https://colorex.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/festool-router-of-1400-w.jpg>

My Rocky 30 trim router has a snap on DC hood also. Works ok, but the hose makes a
light weight trim router kinda bulky.

On the other hand, Oneida (of Dust Deputy fame) makes a universal router base with
a DC port. The port swivels within the router's opening.

https://i.imgur.com/iIfn4I3.jpg

The DC port has a integrated "cup" that encloses the bit and directs all the dust to
the port. My finger is touching the cup and the port can be seen on the left.

https://i.imgur.com/2sjekzp.jpg

On Thu, 20 May 2021 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:47:53 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> >> On 5/18/2021 5:58 PM, Bob D wrote:
>> >> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> >> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".
>> >> >
>> >> Yeah! What you said. ;~) I have to think no room for a round port on
>> >> the base unless they made it much smaller.
>> >
>> >That sounds reasonable. The dust port on the body of DW411 sander is a very thin slot.
>> >To convert that to a round hose connection port would take a pretty big "circle".
>> >
>> >This is the DW411, with no built in port for a hose.
>> >
>> >https://tehnoskarb.ua/images/tehnoskarb/smallImage/2/4/649224.jpg
>> >
>> >They must have gotten some feedback because the newer models convert that
>> >slot to a round port via a modification to the body of the tool. Seems like Festool
>> >could do this if they wanted to:
>> >
>> >https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224453044223_/Dewalt-DWE6411-1-4-Sheet-Palm-Grip-Corded-Heavy.jpg
>> >
>> The dust port is very high. On a router there is a large space
>> between the motor and the cutting edge.
>>
>> <https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-4b75b/images/stencil/608x608/products/3238/7422/pcc_of1010_000000_a_01a__33205.1467291950.jpg?c=2>
>>
>> The larger OF-1400 router has a hood that snaps over/around the bit to
>> do the same thing. It's really a PIA because it's always falling out.
>>
>> <https://colorex.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/festool-router-of-1400-w.jpg>
>
>My Rocky 30 trim router has a snap on DC hood also. Works ok, but the hose makes a
>light weight trim router kinda bulky.

That's one of the down sides of any of this. It's a lot better than
breathing the stuff though.

>On the other hand, Oneida (of Dust Deputy fame) makes a universal router base with
>a DC port. The port swivels within the router's opening.
>
>https://i.imgur.com/iIfn4I3.jpg

It doesn't seem like it's very easy to see the bit.

>The DC port has a integrated "cup" that encloses the bit and directs all the dust to
>the port. My finger is touching the cup and the port can be seen on the left.
>
>https://i.imgur.com/2sjekzp.jpg

That looks like a really good idea but it still looks like there is a
lot in the way of the bit.

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 5:15:32 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2021 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:47:53 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >> <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> >> >> On 5/18/2021 5:58 PM, Bob D wrote:
> >> >> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> >> >> One has to wonder why there are oval ports.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Maybe Festool had a summer intern mechanical engineer doing the design and their focus was on the fluid mechanics equations. There are no factors in fluid mechanics for "is this practical".
> >> >> >
> >> >> Yeah! What you said. ;~) I have to think no room for a round port on
> >> >> the base unless they made it much smaller.
> >> >
> >> >That sounds reasonable. The dust port on the body of DW411 sander is a very thin slot.
> >> >To convert that to a round hose connection port would take a pretty big "circle".
> >> >
> >> >This is the DW411, with no built in port for a hose.
> >> >
> >> >https://tehnoskarb.ua/images/tehnoskarb/smallImage/2/4/649224.jpg
> >> >
> >> >They must have gotten some feedback because the newer models convert that
> >> >slot to a round port via a modification to the body of the tool. Seems like Festool
> >> >could do this if they wanted to:
> >> >
> >> >https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224453044223_/Dewalt-DWE6411-1-4-Sheet-Palm-Grip-Corded-Heavy.jpg
> >> >
> >> The dust port is very high. On a router there is a large space
> >> between the motor and the cutting edge.
> >>
> >> <https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-4b75b/images/stencil/608x608/products/3238/7422/pcc_of1010_000000_a_01a__33205.1467291950.jpg?c=2>
> >>
> >> The larger OF-1400 router has a hood that snaps over/around the bit to
> >> do the same thing. It's really a PIA because it's always falling out.
> >>
> >> <https://colorex.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/festool-router-of-1400-w.jpg>
> >
> >My Rocky 30 trim router has a snap on DC hood also. Works ok, but the hose makes a
> >light weight trim router kinda bulky.
> That's one of the down sides of any of this. It's a lot better than
> breathing the stuff though.
> >On the other hand, Oneida (of Dust Deputy fame) makes a universal router base with
> >a DC port. The port swivels within the router's opening.
> >
> >https://i.imgur.com/iIfn4I3.jpg
> It doesn't seem like it's very easy to see the bit.
> >The DC port has a integrated "cup" that encloses the bit and directs all the dust to
> >the port. My finger is touching the cup and the port can be seen on the left.
> >
> >https://i.imgur.com/2sjekzp.jpg
> That looks like a really good idea but it still looks like there is a
> lot in the way of the bit.

It doesn't look like it's any worse than the Festool picture you posted.

Maybe I'm missing what you mean.