On 4/30/23 7:11 PM, pothead wrote:
> On 2023-04-30, Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ugh oh. Trouble in EV paradise.
>> Would you put one of these things in your garage?
>> I wouldn't.
>>
>> BTW, Tesla uses litium ion batteries as well.
>>
>> <New York lawmakers push for lithium-ion battery safety regulations after
>> a string of fires>
>>
>> "A group of New York Democrats announced support for federal legislation
>> aimed at regulating lithium-ion battery safety standards after a spate of
>> fires caused by the batteries malfunctioning or overheating.
>>
>> Lithium-ion batteries, found in many popular consumer products like e-
>> scooters and smartphones, have been under scrutiny amid increasing
>> reports of explosive fires triggered by the batteries, which use
>> flammable materials.
>>
>> Fire officials and others gather outside of a Bronx supermarket the day
>> after a 5-alarm fire tore through a market that fire officials are
>> blaming on a faulty lithium-ion battery
>> Lithium-ion battery fires are happening more often. Here's how to prevent
>> them
>> Support in New York for more safeguards comes after at least seven people
>> were injured when a lithium-ion battery-powered scooter exploded in the
>> Bronx early last month. The incident followed a Manhattan apartment
>> building fire in November that injured at least 38 people and was blamed
>> on a lithium-ion battery connected to a micromobility device.
>>
>> The “Setting Consumer Standards for Lithium-Ion Batteries Act,”
>> introduced in the US House of Representatives in late March, sets federal
>> safety standards for rechargeable lithium-ion batteries used to power
>> electric scooters and e-bikes and sets guidelines to protect consumers
>> against the risk of fires caused by such batteries, according to the
>> bill.
>>
>> “Without federal legislation, and so many of these batteries come from
>> across state lines or made overseas or made in China, we will not have a
>> complete and strong solution,” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-
>> NY, said at a news conference Sunday afternoon.
>>
>> Fellow New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand agreed, saying, “We cannot allow
>> for faulty or improperly manufactured batteries to keep causing these
>> dangerous, deadly fires.”
>>
>> New York City has seen 63 fires and 5 deaths caused by lithium-ion
>> batteries this year alone, Fire Commissioner Laura Kavanagh said during
>> the news conference.
>>
>> The new lithium-ion battery safety bill was announced last month by Rep.
>> Ritchie Torres, D-NY, who said the legislation would save lives and
>> protect property.
>>
>> The fire blazes at the Bronx on March 5, 2023.
>> Scooter lithium battery investigated as cause of 5-alarm Bronx blaze,
>> fire department says
>> Torres said the latest fire is another reminder “of the escalating threat
>> lithium-ion batteries poses to the public’s safety,” according to a news
>> release.
>>
>> Two lithium-ion battery related deaths were reported two weeks ago in
>> Queens, where an e-bike caught fire in a vestibule of a building and
>> flames exploded to an upper level, blocking the exit, officials said.
>>
>> New York City Fire Department Chief Fire Marshal Dan Flynn said the
>> incident in Queens was the 59th lithium-ion battery related fire the
>> agency had battled, according to an Instagram post from the FDNY.
>>
>> The fire department advised residents to buy UL-certified devices, keep
>> devices at room temperature and keep them away from direct sunlight,
>> among other tips."
>
> There have been many incidents in the home and on public transportation where lithium batteries
> have exploded or caught on fire.
> The technology is close but not quite there yet.

The explosion hazard is inherent in the current, and only
really "useful", design. It cannot be fixed.

People have been working hard on new designs for a LONG
time now - you hear hopeful research reports and then
nothing comes of it. Some cases may be because the current
battery czars suppress competitors ... but mostly it seems
to be because those new designs simply cannot be scaled-up
to affordable mass production.

THIS week, zinc batteries again. Sorry, they've been at those
for like fifteen years and SOMETHING will screw up the plan
again this time. Sorry, storing power is DIFFICULT.