First, the music: Deep Blue Something....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ClCpfeIELw

..... While you gaze at the food:

https://i.postimg.cc/N013SsDy/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys.jpg

Pop Quiz: The category is domestic animals.

What do Russia, France, and Turkey Canada have in common?
China, Turkey, and Belgium lead in what?
How about Turkey, Spain, and Brazil?

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-sw

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/N013SsDy/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys.jpg
>
I thought you meant the movie, rather than a band full of boys
who'd probably be happy to receive fellatio from Greg Morrow.
>
We saw the movie a few weeks ago.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:55:55 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > https://i.postimg.cc/N013SsDy/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys.jpg
> > >
> > I thought you meant the movie, rather than a band full of boys
> > who'd probably be happy to receive fellatio from Greg Morrow.
> > >
> > We saw the movie a few weeks ago.
> You seem inordinately concerned about the things that go into my mouth.
>
> Why is that? I think that's a weird thing to do.
>
I was just using you as a paradigm example of an old
gay man. Those young guys didn't look like they would
probably *give* fellatio to an old man, but the looked
like they might be willing to *receive* fellatio to *from*
an old man. Nothing personal.

I think it very likely that you like the movie better than
you like that stupid band...well...unless they...
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:48:35 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/N013SsDy/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys.jpg
> >
> I thought you meant the movie, rather than a band full of boys
> who'd probably be happy to receive fellatio from Greg Morrow.
> >
> We saw the movie a few weeks ago.
> >
> > -sw
>
> --Bryan

I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:59:59 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:48:35 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > https://i.postimg.cc/N013SsDy/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys.jpg
> > > >
> > > I thought you meant the movie, rather than a band full of boys
> > > who'd probably be happy to receive fellatio from Greg Morrow.
> > > >
> > > We saw the movie a few weeks ago.
> > > >
> > > > -sw
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.
> Do they have lutefisk on da Rock...???
>
> --
> GM

No, of course not.

dsi1 wrote:
....
> I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.

i've been rereading Dune (the whole series) again.

Frank is an interesting writer and very entertaining. :)
i can usually find something in each re-read that makes it
worth it.

songbird

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 7:46:18 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.
> i've been rereading Dune (the whole series) again.
>
> Frank is an interesting writer and very entertaining. :)
> i can usually find something in each re-read that makes it
> worth it.
>
Book one is good. Book two is not very good. Book three is
very good. The first three books prepare the reader for the
fourth book, which is the important one. The books after
*God Emperor of Dune* are not worth reading at all.
>
> songbird

--Bryan

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:46:18 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.
> i've been rereading Dune (the whole series) again.
>
> Frank is an interesting writer and very entertaining. :)
> i can usually find something in each re-read that makes it
> worth it.
>
>
> songbird

Read the books in a sand dune. That would be terribly cool.

On 2023-09-01, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.

Las Vegas?

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:17:25 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2023-09-01, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> > I've been watching the movies "Dune." It feels like we've been exiled from Caladan to Arrakis: we're staying for a couple of weeks at my dad's house while our condo's plumbing is being worked on. It's so hot and dry here! Life is a lot different. My step-mom keeps the household like a Swedish woman and we're used to living island style i.e., like slobs. OTOH, there's a good chance of us moving in here permanently. That'll be hard but what's life without adversity/change? Boring, that's what.
> Las Vegas?

It's on the Windward side of the island of Oahu but it's hot. My dad has a condo in Las Vegas that he left for my step-mom. Maybe my brother will move to LV in the future. I'm not so hot about that place because they have had scorpions in the condo. I'd rather have roaches. Roaches can't send you to the hospital. The scorpions are like the sand worms on Arrakis.

dsi1 wrote:
....
> It's on the Windward side of the island of Oahu but it's hot. My dad has a condo in Las Vegas that he left for my step-mom. Maybe my brother will move to LV in the future. I'm not so hot about that place because they have had scorpions in the condo. I'd rather have roaches. Roaches can't send you to the hospital. The scorpions are like the sand worms on Arrakis.

scorpions stings are supposedly like a bee sting.
nothing to be afraid of unless you are allergic.
luckily i don't have to deal with them. bees,
hornets, wasps, etc. are all around here and we get
along ok for the most part. if you don't swat at
them or otherwise get them trapped in your clothes
they won't usually have any reason to bother you.

roaches i've had to deal with and consider them
quite minor pests compared to some others i contend
with... eliminate their food and water and hiding
places and they can't get established as they do
take some time to get old enough to procreate. of
course if they are getting into your place then
figure out where they're coming in and get that
plugged up.

songbird

On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 18:12:44 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>...
>> It's on the Windward side of the island of Oahu but it's hot. My dad has a condo in Las Vegas that he left for my step-mom. Maybe my brother will move to LV in the future. I'm not so hot about that place because they have had scorpions in the condo. I'd rather have roaches. Roaches can't send you to the hospital. The scorpions are like the sand worms on Arrakis.
>
> scorpions stings are supposedly like a bee sting.
>nothing to be afraid of unless you are allergic.
>luckily i don't have to deal with them. bees,
>hornets, wasps, etc. are all around here and we get
>along ok for the most part. if you don't swat at
>them or otherwise get them trapped in your clothes
>they won't usually have any reason to bother you.

I've found that paper wasps won't attack if they're used to humans
near their nest. We once had a nest in a part of the property where we
don't often go and I got badly stung twice there. A year ago, we had a
nest straight above my car door. They left me alone and I them.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:19:52 PM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > It's on the Windward side of the island of Oahu but it's hot. My dad has a condo in Las Vegas that he left for my step-mom. Maybe my brother will move to LV in the future. I'm not so hot about that place because they have had scorpions in the condo. I'd rather have roaches. Roaches can't send you to the hospital. The scorpions are like the sand worms on Arrakis.
> scorpions stings are supposedly like a bee sting.
> nothing to be afraid of unless you are allergic.
> luckily i don't have to deal with them. bees,
> hornets, wasps, etc. are all around here and we get
> along ok for the most part. if you don't swat at
> them or otherwise get them trapped in your clothes
> they won't usually have any reason to bother you.
>
> roaches i've had to deal with and consider them
> quite minor pests compared to some others i contend
> with... eliminate their food and water and hiding
> places and they can't get established as they do
> take some time to get old enough to procreate. of
> course if they are getting into your place then
> figure out where they're coming in and get that
> plugged up.
>
>
> songbird

The sting of the scorpion sounded a lot worse than a bee sting. OTOH, I've never been stung by either. Perhaps I've lead a sheltered life. My step-mom's brother-in-law got stung in the condo. His arm was in pain for a few days and took a couple of weeks to heal.
The good news is that we don't have a lot of scary bugs here. We do have large spiders but the don't bite - well, that's what I've read. Currently, I'm trying to get over my fear of these critters. Ideally, I'd like to pick one up when I get a chance. Here's a rather unusual specimen - it has all of it's legs.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GqCvYXwfMeNTcJPH6

On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 16:37:55 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>The sting of the scorpion sounded a lot worse than a bee sting. OTOH, I've never been stung by either. Perhaps I've lead a sheltered life. My step-mom's brother-in-law got stung in the condo. His arm was in pain for a few days and took a couple of weeks to heal.
>The good news is that we don't have a lot of scary bugs here. We do have large spiders but the don't bite - well, that's what I've read. Currently, I'm trying to get over my fear of these critters. Ideally, I'd like to pick one up when I get a chance. Here's a rather unusual specimen - it has all of it's legs.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/GqCvYXwfMeNTcJPH6

It looks a bit like the huntsmen that we have here. There are always a
few in the house. Lately, I've been removing a small one from the
shower cabin each time before I have a shower, so it doesn't drown.
This is a bigger one:
<https://www.minibeastwildlife.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Holconia-immanis-on-hands.jpg>

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 16:37:55 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
> >The sting of the scorpion sounded a lot worse than a bee sting. OTOH, I've never been stung by either. Perhaps I've lead a sheltered life. My step-mom's brother-in-law got stung in the condo. His arm was in pain for a few days and took a couple of weeks to heal.
> >The good news is that we don't have a lot of scary bugs here. We do have large spiders but the don't bite - well, that's what I've read. Currently, I'm trying to get over my fear of these critters. Ideally, I'd like to pick one up when I get a chance. Here's a rather unusual specimen - it has all of it's legs.
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/GqCvYXwfMeNTcJPH6
> It looks a bit like the huntsmen that we have here. There are always a
> few in the house. Lately, I've been removing a small one from the
> shower cabin each time before I have a shower, so it doesn't drown.
> This is a bigger one:
> <https://www.minibeastwildlife.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Holconia-immanis-on-hands.jpg>
>
> --
> Bruce
> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

It is indeed a huntsman spider. It's called a cane spider on da rock. The methods of dealing with cane spiders in your home should be taught by our public education system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdRigNMkNw&t=255s

On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:19:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
>> It looks a bit like the huntsmen that we have here. There are always a
>> few in the house. Lately, I've been removing a small one from the
>> shower cabin each time before I have a shower, so it doesn't drown.
>> This is a bigger one:
>> <https://www.minibeastwildlife.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Holconia-immanis-on-hands.jpg>
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
>
>It is indeed a huntsman spider. It's called a cane spider on da rock. The methods of dealing with cane spiders in your home should be taught by our public education system.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdRigNMkNw&t=255s

Maybe I was like that in my first year in Australia, but now I leave
them be, unless they're in the bedroom and big enough that my wife has
a problem with them. Then I put them outside. Ticks, ants and horse
flies bother me more than spiders and even snakes.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:19:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> It looks a bit like the huntsmen that we have here. There are always a
> >> few in the house. Lately, I've been removing a small one from the
> >> shower cabin each time before I have a shower, so it doesn't drown.
> >> This is a bigger one:
> >> <https://www.minibeastwildlife.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Holconia-immanis-on-hands.jpg>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bruce
> >> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
> >
> >It is indeed a huntsman spider. It's called a cane spider on da rock. The methods of dealing with cane spiders in your home should be taught by our public education system.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdRigNMkNw&t=255s
> Maybe I was like that in my first year in Australia, but now I leave
> them be, unless they're in the bedroom and big enough that my wife has
> a problem with them. Then I put them outside. Ticks, ants and horse
> flies bother me more than spiders and even snakes.
>
> --
> Bruce
> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

I used to sic the cat on the cane spiders - they love to bust those spiders up. These days, I do not summon the services of the cats. Instead, I capture the spiders and release them. Soon, I hope to be able to handle them. Small steps.
Centipedes in the house are a different story. I like to have the cats soften them up first. Then they get tossed to the chickens. The chickens love to tear those centipedes apart and gobble them down. My guess is that it's like Maine lobster to them. In a world full of chickens, the centipede might be in danger of being wiped out. Good.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 02:22:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:19:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>
>> >> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
>> >
>> >It is indeed a huntsman spider. It's called a cane spider on da rock. The methods of dealing with cane spiders in your home should be taught by our public education system.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdRigNMkNw&t=255s
>> Maybe I was like that in my first year in Australia, but now I leave
>> them be, unless they're in the bedroom and big enough that my wife has
>> a problem with them. Then I put them outside. Ticks, ants and horse
>> flies bother me more than spiders and even snakes.
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
>
>I used to sic the cat on the cane spiders - they love to bust those spiders up. These days, I do not summon the services of the cats. Instead, I capture the spiders and release them. Soon, I hope to be able to handle them. Small steps.
>
I think handling them as in picking them up with your hand is quite a
big step. I haven't reached that yet.
>
>Centipedes in the house are a different story. I like to have the cats soften them up first. Then they get tossed to the chickens. The chickens love to tear those centipedes apart and gobble them down. My guess is that it's like Maine lobster to them. In a world full of chickens, the centipede might be in danger of being wiped out. Good.
>
I once saw one of our chickens run around with a baby snake in its
beak. I wondered what that would do to its next egg.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 02:22:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:19:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> >> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
> >> >
> >> >It is indeed a huntsman spider. It's called a cane spider on da rock. The methods of dealing with cane spiders in your home should be taught by our public education system.
> >> >
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdRigNMkNw&t=255s
> >> Maybe I was like that in my first year in Australia, but now I leave
> >> them be, unless they're in the bedroom and big enough that my wife has
> >> a problem with them. Then I put them outside. Ticks, ants and horse
> >> flies bother me more than spiders and even snakes.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bruce
> >> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
> >
> >I used to sic the cat on the cane spiders - they love to bust those spiders up. These days, I do not summon the services of the cats. Instead, I capture the spiders and release them. Soon, I hope to be able to handle them. Small steps.
> >
> I think handling them as in picking them up with your hand is quite a
> big step. I haven't reached that yet.
> >
> >Centipedes in the house are a different story. I like to have the cats soften them up first. Then they get tossed to the chickens. The chickens love to tear those centipedes apart and gobble them down. My guess is that it's like Maine lobster to them. In a world full of chickens, the centipede might be in danger of being wiped out. Good.
> >
> I once saw one of our chickens run around with a baby snake in its
> beak. I wondered what that would do to its next egg.
>
> --
> Bruce
> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

That venom the chickens eat gives their eggs that certain je ne sais quoi.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 03:28:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 02:22:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:34:43 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:19:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
>> >> >
>> >> >It is indeed a huntsman spider. It's called a cane spider on da rock. The methods of dealing with cane spiders in your home should be taught by our public education system.
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdRigNMkNw&t=255s
>> >> Maybe I was like that in my first year in Australia, but now I leave
>> >> them be, unless they're in the bedroom and big enough that my wife has
>> >> a problem with them. Then I put them outside. Ticks, ants and horse
>> >> flies bother me more than spiders and even snakes.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bruce
>> >> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
>> >
>> >I used to sic the cat on the cane spiders - they love to bust those spiders up. These days, I do not summon the services of the cats. Instead, I capture the spiders and release them. Soon, I hope to be able to handle them. Small steps.
>> >
>> I think handling them as in picking them up with your hand is quite a
>> big step. I haven't reached that yet.
>> >
>> >Centipedes in the house are a different story. I like to have the cats soften them up first. Then they get tossed to the chickens. The chickens love to tear those centipedes apart and gobble them down. My guess is that it's like Maine lobster to them. In a world full of chickens, the centipede might be in danger of being wiped out. Good.
>> >
>> I once saw one of our chickens run around with a baby snake in its
>> beak. I wondered what that would do to its next egg.
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>> <https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>
>
>That venom the chickens eat gives their eggs that certain je ne sais quoi.
>
I'm sure it does.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

On 9/3/2023 6:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 18:12:44 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
> wrote:
>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>> ...
>>> It's on the Windward side of the island of Oahu but it's hot. My dad has a condo in Las Vegas that he left for my step-mom. Maybe my brother will move to LV in the future. I'm not so hot about that place because they have had scorpions in the condo. I'd rather have roaches. Roaches can't send you to the hospital. The scorpions are like the sand worms on Arrakis.
>>
>> scorpions stings are supposedly like a bee sting.
>> nothing to be afraid of unless you are allergic.
>> luckily i don't have to deal with them. bees,
>> hornets, wasps, etc. are all around here and we get
>> along ok for the most part. if you don't swat at
>> them or otherwise get them trapped in your clothes
>> they won't usually have any reason to bother you.
>
> I've found that paper wasps won't attack if they're used to humans
> near their nest. We once had a nest in a part of the property where we
> don't often go and I got badly stung twice there. A year ago, we had a
> nest straight above my car door. They left me alone and I them.

Usually friendly unless they feel threatened. I used to paint around
their nests up high often. No one else would go near them.

I would set the ladder right in the corner, slowly and carefully. Then
go up paint slowly and carefully all around and even behind the nest. I
usually talked to them softly too.

First paint everything to the right of the nest - slow motion.
They all turned that way to watch.
Then I would switch to my left hand and paint all on that side. As soon
as I switched sides, all the wasps would rotate and continue to watch my
every move.

I found that to be *pretty cool*.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 8:14:34 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 9/3/2023 6:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 18:12:44 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> It's on the Windward side of the island of Oahu but it's hot. My dad has a condo in Las Vegas that he left for my step-mom. Maybe my brother will move to LV in the future. I'm not so hot about that place because they have had scorpions in the condo. I'd rather have roaches. Roaches can't send you to the hospital. The scorpions are like the sand worms on Arrakis.
> >>
> >> scorpions stings are supposedly like a bee sting.
> >> nothing to be afraid of unless you are allergic.
> >> luckily i don't have to deal with them. bees,
> >> hornets, wasps, etc. are all around here and we get
> >> along ok for the most part. if you don't swat at
> >> them or otherwise get them trapped in your clothes
> >> they won't usually have any reason to bother you.
> >
> > I've found that paper wasps won't attack if they're used to humans
> > near their nest. We once had a nest in a part of the property where we
> > don't often go and I got badly stung twice there. A year ago, we had a
> > nest straight above my car door. They left me alone and I them.
> Usually friendly unless they feel threatened. I used to paint around
> their nests up high often. No one else would go near them.
>
> I would set the ladder right in the corner, slowly and carefully. Then
> go up paint slowly and carefully all around and even behind the nest. I
> usually talked to them softly too.
>
You are a wasp whisperer!

--Bryan

On 2023-09-05 9:14 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 9/3/2023 6:59 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> I've found that paper wasps won't attack if they're used to humans
>> near their nest. We once had a nest in a part of the property where we
>> don't often go and I got badly stung twice there. A year ago, we had a
>> nest straight above my car door. They left me alone and I them.
>
> Usually friendly unless they feel threatened. I used to paint around
> their nests up high often. No one else would go near them.
>
> I would set the ladder right in the corner, slowly and carefully. Then
> go up paint slowly and carefully all around and even behind the nest. I
> usually talked to them softly too.
>
> First paint everything to the right of the nest - slow motion.
> They all turned that way to watch.
> Then I would switch to my left hand and paint all on that side. As soon
> as I switched sides, all the wasps would rotate and continue to watch my
> every move.
>
> I found that to be *pretty cool*.
>
>
>

We don't see too many wasps around our house. Yellow jackets hornets are
a much bigger problem. I had to destroy a nest a few days ago. It was in
the ground about two feet from where we store out green compost bin. It
took three days and three different types of spray, each administered
several times. It finally got enough of them that I could dig up the
nest and destroy it.

Coincidentally, my wife got stung later that day. He were in the car
and it came in the window and got her in the leg. Holy cow did she make
a fuss over that sting. I carry a pill container with some baby aspirin
and some Benedryl for emergencies. She had a bottle of cold water that
she held against it.

It turned out that this was only the second time in her life that she
has been stung. I don't know how that is even possible. I consider it a
good year if I only get stung three times.

In article <RdGJM.660187$U3w1.369451@fx09.iad>, adavid.smith@sympatico.ca
Dave Smith says...
> Coincidentally, my wife got stung later that day. He were in the car
> and it came in the window and got her in the leg.
>
>
I hope he is not allergic.

On 2023-09-05, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-09-05 9:14 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> On 9/3/2023 6:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>> I've found that paper wasps won't attack if they're used to humans
>>> near their nest. We once had a nest in a part of the property where we
>>> don't often go and I got badly stung twice there. A year ago, we had a
>>> nest straight above my car door. They left me alone and I them.
>>
>> Usually friendly unless they feel threatened. I used to paint around
>> their nests up high often. No one else would go near them.
>>
>> I would set the ladder right in the corner, slowly and carefully. Then
>> go up paint slowly and carefully all around and even behind the nest. I
>> usually talked to them softly too.
>>
>> First paint everything to the right of the nest - slow motion.
>> They all turned that way to watch.
>> Then I would switch to my left hand and paint all on that side. As soon
>> as I switched sides, all the wasps would rotate and continue to watch my
>> every move.
>>
>> I found that to be *pretty cool*.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> We don't see too many wasps around our house. Yellow jackets hornets are
> a much bigger problem. I had to destroy a nest a few days ago. It was in
> the ground about two feet from where we store out green compost bin. It
> took three days and three different types of spray, each administered
> several times. It finally got enough of them that I could dig up the
> nest and destroy it.
>
> Coincidentally, my wife got stung later that day. He were in the car
> and it came in the window and got her in the leg. Holy cow did she make
> a fuss over that sting. I carry a pill container with some baby aspirin
> and some Benedryl for emergencies. She had a bottle of cold water that
> she held against it.
>
> It turned out that this was only the second time in her life that she
> has been stung. I don't know how that is even possible. I consider it a
> good year if I only get stung three times.

I've only been stung a couple of times. Holy hell, those things hurt.
Yellowjacket stings hurt for a while, but deer flies bites have
them beat for immediate pain.

Some of us avoid getting stung. It's not that difficult.

--
Cindy Hamilton