"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
> Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> 1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>
>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>> destruction
>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>
>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>
>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons then..
>> and certainly any gun out there...
>>
>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>
> What do you want to deter HIMARS?

Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to
man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.

However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid..
then the people should certainly have access to even more powerful
weapons.... particularly those 'designed for the battlefield;'

As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own arguments for
banning guns particularly those you assert are "military grade"

So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault weapons ban
would be bad......

On 5/4/2023 5:14 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>
>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass destruction
>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>
>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to 'forcibly
>>>> overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>
>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons then.. and
>>> certainly any gun out there...
>>>
>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>
>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>
> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to man
> and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>
> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid.. then
> the people should certainly have access to even more powerful weapons....

The right to arms is not a right to just whatever arms you wish to have.

Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government
>>>>>>> from taking
>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need
>>>>>>> to resist
>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>
>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US
>>>>> military is not
>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>>> destruction
>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>
>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we
>>>> need to 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>
>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such
>>> weapons then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>
>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>
>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>
> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would
> have to man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>
> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as
> valid.. then the people should certainly have access to even more
> powerful weapons.... particularly those 'designed for the
> battlefield;'
>
> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own
> arguments for banning guns particularly those you assert are
> "military grade"
>
> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault
> weapons ban would be bad......

'1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from
taking from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need
to resist and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical
government.'

So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to
'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'

Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
machine guns.....

More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one
million were either wounded or killed, making it one of the
deadliest battles in all of human history.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>

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"Allahu Snackbar" <camel-jockey@97virgins.com> wrote in message
news:dCO4M.3143669$GNG9.1206694@fx18.iad...
> On 5/4/2023 5:14 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>> 1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to
>>>>>>>> resist
>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>>>> destruction
>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>
>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons
>>>> then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>
>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>
>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>
>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to
>> man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>
>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid..
>> then the people should certainly have access to even more powerful
>> weapons....
>
> The right to arms is not a right to just whatever arms you wish to have.

Where do you see that written?

"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u30hk9$1sevn$1@dont-email.me...
> Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>> 1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to
>>>>>>>> resist
>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>>>> destruction
>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>
>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons
>>>> then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>
>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>
>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>
>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to
>> man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>
>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid..
>> then the people should certainly have access to even more powerful
>> weapons.... particularly those 'designed for the battlefield;'
>>
>> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own arguments for
>> banning guns particularly those you assert are "military grade"
>>
>> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault weapons ban
>> would be bad......
>
> '1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking from
> its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist and, if
> necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>
> So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to 'forcibly
> overthrow a tyrannical government.'

You tell me.. you're the one trying to limit what I could have in my
shopping cart.

>> Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
> machine guns.....
>
> More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one million were
> either wounded or killed, making it one of the deadliest battles in all of
> human history.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>

So what you're saying is that machine guns should be legal to own?

Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u30hk9$1sevn$1@dont-email.me...
>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government
>>>>>>>>> from taking
>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would
>>>>>>>>> need to resist
>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical
>>>>>>>>> government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US
>>>>>>> military is not
>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of
>>>>>>> mass destruction
>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we
>>>>>> need to 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such
>>>>> weapons then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>
>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>
>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>
>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone
>>> would have to man and operate that equipment and they are
>>> vulnerable.
>>>
>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument
>>> as valid.. then the people should certainly have access to even
>>> more powerful weapons.... particularly those 'designed for the
>>> battlefield;'
>>>
>>> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own
>>> arguments for banning guns particularly those you assert are
>>> "military grade"
>>>
>>> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault
>>> weapons ban would be bad......
>>
>> '1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from
>> taking from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would
>> need to resist and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a
>> tyrannical government.'
>>
>> So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to
>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>
> You tell me.. you're the one trying to limit what I could have in
> my shopping cart.
>
>
>>> Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
>> machine guns.....
>>
>> More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one
>> million were either wounded or killed, making it one of the
>> deadliest battles in all of human history.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>
>
> So what you're saying is that machine guns should be legal to own?
>
>

Do they fire over the horizon at those HIMARS?

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On 5/4/2023 11:24 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u30hk9$1sevn$1@dont-email.me...
>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass destruction
>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons then..
>>>>> and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>
>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>
>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>
>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to man
>>> and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>>
>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid.. then
>>> the people should certainly have access to even more powerful weapons....
>>> particularly those 'designed for the battlefield;'
>>>
>>> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own arguments for
>>> banning guns particularly those you assert are "military grade"
>>>
>>> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault weapons ban
>>> would be bad......
>>
>> '1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking from its
>> citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist and, if
>> necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>>
>> So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to 'forcibly
>> overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>
> You tell me.

No, scooter, it's your shopping cart.

We know, scooter, that you don't get to add just whatever arms you want to your
cart. You know that too, scooter.

>
>
>>> Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
>> machine guns.....
>>
>> More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one million were
>> either wounded or killed, making it one of the deadliest battles in all of
>> human history.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>
>
> So what you're saying is

There's another scooter straw man. *Whenever* you write "so what you're saying
is," what follows is never what the other person was saying. It's always just a
slovenly, falling-apart little straw man.

On 5/4/2023 11:22 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Allahu Snackbar" <camel-jockey@97virgins.com> wrote in message
> news:dCO4M.3143669$GNG9.1206694@fx18.iad...
>> On 5/4/2023 5:14 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass destruction
>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>
>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons then..
>>>>> and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>
>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>
>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>
>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to man
>>> and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>>
>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid.. then
>>> the people should certainly have access to even more powerful weapons....
>>
>> The right to arms is not a right to just whatever arms you wish to have.
>
> Where do you see that written?

Heller decision, scooter.

"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u3168t$1vnga$2@dont-email.me...
> Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u30hk9$1sevn$1@dont-email.me...
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from
>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to
>>>>>>>>>> resist
>>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>>>>>> destruction
>>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons
>>>>>> then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>
>>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have
>>>> to man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>>>
>>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as
>>>> valid.. then the people should certainly have access to even more
>>>> powerful weapons.... particularly those 'designed for the battlefield;'
>>>>
>>>> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own arguments
>>>> for banning guns particularly those you assert are "military grade"
>>>>
>>>> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault weapons
>>>> ban would be bad......
>>>
>>> '1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>>>
>>> So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to 'forcibly
>>> overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>>
>> You tell me.. you're the one trying to limit what I could have in my
>> shopping cart.
>>
>>
>>>> Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
>>> machine guns.....
>>>
>>> More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one million
>>> were either wounded or killed, making it one of the deadliest battles in
>>> all of human history.
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>
>>
>> So what you're saying is that machine guns should be legal to own?
>>
>>
>
> Do they fire over the horizon at those HIMARS?

Who cares, unless you're suggesting that people should own missile defense
systems. Are you?

If not all, you are doing is showing a greater need for actual military
weapons..

"Michael A Terrell" <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote in message
news:Mb05M.2726239$9sn9.2517659@fx17.iad...
> On 5/4/2023 11:22 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Allahu Snackbar" <camel-jockey@97virgins.com> wrote in message
>> news:dCO4M.3143669$GNG9.1206694@fx18.iad...
>>> On 5/4/2023 5:14 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from
>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to
>>>>>>>>>> resist
>>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>>>>>> destruction
>>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons
>>>>>> then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>
>>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have
>>>> to man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>>>
>>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as
>>>> valid.. then the people should certainly have access to even more
>>>> powerful weapons....
>>>
>>> The right to arms is not a right to just whatever arms you wish to have.
>>
>> Where do you see that written?
>
> Heller decision, scooter.

So you now like the Heller decision and agree with the court that firearms
that people can keep and bear firearms even in public?

On 5/5/2023 4:58 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Michael A Terrell" <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote in message
> news:Mb05M.2726239$9sn9.2517659@fx17.iad...
>> On 5/4/2023 11:22 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Allahu Snackbar" <camel-jockey@97virgins.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dCO4M.3143669$GNG9.1206694@fx18.iad...
>>>> On 5/4/2023 5:14 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is not
>>>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass destruction
>>>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons then..
>>>>>>> and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would have to
>>>>> man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as valid..
>>>>> then the people should certainly have access to even more powerful weapons....
>>>>
>>>> The right to arms is not a right to just whatever arms you wish to have.
>>>
>>> Where do you see that written?
>>
>> Heller decision, scooter.
>
> So you now like the Heller decision

I always liked it, scooter. One of the big reasons I like it, scooter, is it
clarifies that the right to arms is not a right to just whatever arms you wish
to have. But I also like that it clarifies that the right is an individual right.

You don't have a right to just whatever arms you wish, scooter.

Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u3168t$1vnga$2@dont-email.me...
>> Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u30hk9$1sevn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government
>>>>>>>>>>> from taking
>>>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would
>>>>>>>>>>> need to resist
>>>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical
>>>>>>>>>>> government.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US
>>>>>>>>> military is not
>>>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of
>>>>>>>>> mass destruction
>>>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we
>>>>>>>> need to 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such
>>>>>>> weapons then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone
>>>>> would have to man and operate that equipment and they are
>>>>> vulnerable.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument
>>>>> as valid.. then the people should certainly have access to
>>>>> even more powerful weapons.... particularly those 'designed
>>>>> for the battlefield;'
>>>>>
>>>>> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own
>>>>> arguments for banning guns particularly those you assert are
>>>>> "military grade"
>>>>>
>>>>> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault
>>>>> weapons ban would be bad......
>>>>
>>>> '1.  A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from
>>>> taking from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would
>>>> need to resist and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a
>>>> tyrannical government.'
>>>>
>>>> So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to
>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>>>
>>> You tell me.. you're the one trying to limit what I could have
>>> in my shopping cart.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
>>>> machine guns.....
>>>>
>>>> More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one
>>>> million were either wounded or killed, making it one of the
>>>> deadliest battles in all of human history.
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>
>>>
>>> So what you're saying is that machine guns should be legal to own?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do they fire over the horizon at those HIMARS?
>
> Who cares, unless you're suggesting that people should own missile
> defense systems. Are you?
>
> If not all, you are doing is showing a greater need for actual
> military weapons..
>
>
>

The same magical missile defence system the Kremlin uses?

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On 5/5/23 9:15 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> The same magical missile defence system the Kremlin uses?

Cheap Denisovan drones...

On 5/4/23 2:58 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Do they fire over the horizon at those HIMARS?

Are you aiming for the old Merle Haggard homestead?

On 5/4/23 9:05 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> are you sure to 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'

Are you set on sucking its cawk again?

"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u336hl$2d8a8$3@dont-email.me...
> Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u3168t$1vnga$2@dont-email.me...
>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u30hk9$1sevn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u2uvda$1gm3q$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:u2scca$102fn$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 5:11 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from
>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> resist
>>>>>>>>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For one, the fact that for a bunch of reasons, the US military is
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> going to deploy rockets, or fighter jets, or weapons of mass
>>>>>>>>>> destruction
>>>>>>>>>> against U.S. noncombatant civilians.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the government won't use its best weapons, why would we need to
>>>>>>>>> 'forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what you're saying is that the people SHOULD have such weapons
>>>>>>>> then.. and certainly any gun out there...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And just like that Siri now opposes any sort of gun control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you want to deter HIMARS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not much could be done.. as it stands now, but then someone would
>>>>>> have to man and operate that equipment and they are vulnerable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I will note that is you truly accepted your argument as
>>>>>> valid.. then the people should certainly have access to even more
>>>>>> powerful weapons.... particularly those 'designed for the
>>>>>> battlefield;'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As such the more you talk.. the more you tear down your own arguments
>>>>>> for banning guns particularly those you assert are "military grade"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So go ahead, continue to explain to us exactly how an assault weapons
>>>>>> ban would be bad......
>>>>>
>>>>> '1. A major purpose of the 2A is to keep the government from taking
>>>>> from its citizens the sort or arms that citizens would need to resist
>>>>> and, if necessary, forcibly overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>>>>>
>>>>> So what else in your shopping cart? At point are you sure to 'forcibly
>>>>> overthrow a tyrannical government.'
>>>>
>>>> You tell me.. you're the one trying to limit what I could have in my
>>>> shopping cart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Do note that merely zerg rushing 'a tyrannical government' with
>>>>> machine guns.....
>>>>>
>>>>> More than three million men fought in the battle, of whom one million
>>>>> were either wounded or killed, making it one of the deadliest battles
>>>>> in all of human history.
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme>
>>>>
>>>> So what you're saying is that machine guns should be legal to own?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do they fire over the horizon at those HIMARS?
>>
>> Who cares, unless you're suggesting that people should own missile
>> defense systems. Are you?
>>
>> If not all, you are doing is showing a greater need for actual military
>> weapons..
>>
>>
>>
>
> The same magical missile defence system the Kremlin uses?

So we have a Constitutional right to have Russian anti-missile systems?

Again, if you're saying the people would need such a system, then it would
be covered by the Constitution.

.... seem like you're not concerned about mere rifles anymore.