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Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:46:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Re: CNN CAUGHT LYING AGAIN! Fact check: Comparison of school shootings in the US, other countries uses old data
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,alt.journalism.newspapers,alt.politics.conservative,alt.culture.us.hispanics,alt.law-enforcement
From: chicken_...@democrats.rus (Chicken Tacos)
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 by: Chicken Tacos - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 04:46 UTC

In article <XnsACA773B484511dsa@144.76.35.252>
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/21/22 9:50 PM, Obama has monkeypox wrote:
> > In article <t1i7t6$3258u$131@news.freedyn.de>
> > <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The claim: The US has had 288 school shootings while other
> > countries had two or less
> > A May 24 massacre at a Texas elementary school that left 19
> > children and two teachers dead has reignited the debate over
> > guns and focused attention on the uniquely high rate of school
> > shootings in the United States.
> >
> > “America, you are broken,” reads the caption of a May 25
> > Facebook post that was shared more than 300 times in less than a
> > day. The post includes a breakdown of school shootings by
> > country, attributing 288 to the U.S., two to France and Canada,
> > one to Germany, China and Russia and zero to several countries
> > including the United Kingdom and Australia.
> >
> > Follow us on Facebook! Like our page to get updates throughout
> > the day on our latest debunks
> >
> > The U.S. does have significantly more school shootings than
> > other countries, but the data included in the post actually
> > understates the scope of the problem in the U.S. The tallies
> > reflect one calculation of shootings from 2009 to 2018, so they
> > don't account for U.S. shootings in the last four years or
> > before 2009. Some broader research shows counts nearly 10 times
> > higher.
> >
> > USA TODAY reached out to the user who shared the claim for
> > comment.
> >
> > Claim uses 2018 data, ignore other statistics
> > The statistics in the post line up with a May 2018 CNN article
> > about school shootings since 2009. The network analyzed news
> > reports to compile data on incidents on school grounds in which
> > at least one person was shot other than the shooter.
> >
> > But counts of the total number of school shootings in the U.S
> > vary widely based on methodology and the time period studied.
> > For example, the K-12 School Shooting Database from the Naval
> > Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and Security
> > includes 2,012 school shootings in the U.S. dating back to 1970.
> >
> > The CNN research identified 288 school shootings between January
> > 2009 and May 2018 in the U.S. By comparison, CNN found Canada
> > and France each had two, Germany had one, and Japan, Italy and
> > the United Kingdom had none. Based on those numbers, the U.S.
> > had 57 times more school shootings in that time period than the
> > other G7 countries combined.
> >
> > The story also included data from countries with a higher number
> > of school shootings that were not mentioned in the Facebook
> > post. Mexico, for example, had eight school shootings in the
> > same period, and South Africa had six, according to CNN. India
> > had five while Pakistan and Nigeria each had four. But those
> > were not mentioned in the post.
> >
> > School shootings have continued to plague the U.S. in the years
> > since the article was published.
> >
> > Events missing from this tally include a shooting at the
> > University of North Carolina at Charlotte on April 30, 2019,
> > that killed two people and injured four others. One week later,
> > a shooting at a Denver-area STEM school killed one student and
> > injured eight others.
> >
> > Two people were killed and three others were injured in a 16-
> > second rampage at a high school in Santa Clarita, California, on
> > Nov. 14, 2019.
> >
> > Two sisters were fatally shot and a 2-year-old was hurt in a
> > Feb. 3, 2020, shooting at Texas A&M University-Commerce.
> >
> > More recently, four students were killed and seven others were
> > injured in a shooting at a Michigan high school on Nov. 30,
> > 2021. The May 24 shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is the deadliest
> > shooting at a U.S. elementary school since the 2012 shooting at
> > Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 26 dead.
> >
> > More: It's not just Uvalde, Texas — gunfire on school grounds is
> > at historic high in the US
> >
> > Our rating: Missing context
> > Based on our research, we rate MISSING CONTEXT the claim that
> > the U.S. has had 288 school shootings while other countries two
> > or less. The data cited here tallies only shootings from 2009 to
> > 2018, so it doesn't include a vast number of shootings before
> > and after that timeframe. One database shows that pushes the
> > tally past 2,000 school shootings in the U.S.
> >
> > Our fact-check sources:
> > Naval Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and
> > Security, accessed May 26, K-12 School Shooting Database
> > USA TODAY, May 25, 'There are no words': Families mourn as names
> > of Texas school shooting victims begin to emerge
> > USA TODAY, May 24, Bloodshed since Sandy Hook: Uvalde school
> > shooting among deadliest school attacks in past 10 years
> > USA TODAY, Dec. 2, 2021, Charges filed in Michigan school
> > shooting that left 4 dead; suspect's 'concerning behavior' led
> > school to call parents Tuesday, sheriff says
> > USA TODAY, Feb. 5, 2020, 'Why is there so much violence': Texas
> > university grapples with two deadly shootings in three months
> > USA TODAY, Nov. 14, 2019, A day of 'horror' at Santa Clarita
> > high school: 2 dead after student shoots 5, then himself
> > USA TODAY, May 7, 2019, What we know about the Highlands Ranch
> > STEM school shooting in Colorado
> > USA TODAY, May 1, 2019, University of North Carolina at
> > Charlotte shooting: What We Know Now
> > CNN, May 21, 2018, The US has had 57 times as many school
> > shootings as the other major industrialized nations combined
> > Thank you for supporting our journalism. You can subscribe to
> > our print edition, ad-free app or electronic newspaper replica
> > here.
> >
> > Our fact-check work is supported in part by a grant from
> > Facebook.
> >
> > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/05/26/fact-
> > check-school-shootings-far-more-common-us-than-
> > elsewhere/9944841002/
> >
> > Kill those who misuse guns and televise it.
> >
> > Kill anyone else who objects, televise that too.
> >
>
> Gee ... what a commie bastard you are !
>
> I'd suggest the opposite tact - and at this
> point most of America agrees.
>
> Anyway ... *plonk* ... you're not worth
> the bandwidth

I agree with the first guy.


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