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* Benjamin Franklin, SocialistBradley K. Sherman
`- Re: Benjamin Franklin, SocialistDuncan Patton a Campbell on atlas.indx.ca

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From: bks...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
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Subject: Benjamin Franklin, Socialist
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 15 Jun 2023 21:30 UTC

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| The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly
| blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so.
| I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance
| against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it,
| the People's Money out of their Pockets, tho' only to pay
| the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They
| seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the
| People, is their Creditors' Money, and no longer the Money
| of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell'd
| to pay by some Law.
|
| All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin,
| his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions,
| absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be
| the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the
| Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of
| Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of
| it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the
| Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the
| Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly
| deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such
| purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their
| Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws
| dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall
| demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil
| Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among
| Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society,
| who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.
|
<https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.html>

--bks

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 by: Duncan Patton a Camp - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 06:30 UTC

On 15 Jun 2023 21:30:27 -0000, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

> |
> | The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly
> | blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so.
> | I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance
> | against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it,
> | the People's Money out of their Pockets, tho' only to pay
> | the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They
> | seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the
> | People, is their Creditors' Money, and no longer the Money
> | of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell'd
> | to pay by some Law.
> |
> | All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin,
> | his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions,
> | absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be
> | the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the
> | Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of
> | Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of
> | it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the
> | Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the
> | Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly
> | deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such
> | purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their
> | Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws
> | dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall
> | demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil
> | Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among
> | Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society,
> | who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.
> |
> <https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.html>
>
> --bks

Yes. "Property" is a definition by which society allocates
the exclusive use of resources. More harsh is the view that
without society there's NO NEED to define property 'cause it's
ALL MINE ANYWAYS.

Dhu (P.S. Rush's dead)

--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell

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