On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:09:11 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 10:00:32 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 19:48:47 +0000, "cshenk"
>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 23:40:28 +0000, "cshenk"
>> >> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Eternal September seems to work. MT has some accout where you pay
>> >> > by download size, seems super cheap if you avoid the binary groups.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use giganews but when former isp dropped newsgroups, we got a
>> >> > lifetime 2.49 a month deal and I grabbed it. You have time if you
>> >> > haven't decided, to ask folks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry David, I know it sucks for you.
>> >>
>> >> Can one install a Usenet client on a Google Smurf computer?
>> >
>> >Chrome isn't that bad. There seem to be several options out there.
>> I asked my artificially intelligent friend:
>> "Unfortunately, installing a Usenet client directly on a Chromebook in
>> its stock state is not possible."
>
>I could install a Linux distro on my Chromebook and then run whatever the heck NNTP program that's available. I'm not going to do that. That would be like moving backwards, not forward. I won't ever go in a backward direction. When I'm really old and decrepit, I might.
>
Yes, that sounds like a convoluted step in the wrong direction.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 10:00:32 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 19:48:47 +0000, "cshenk"
>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 23:40:28 +0000, "cshenk"
>> >> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Eternal September seems to work. MT has some accout where you pay
>> >> > by download size, seems super cheap if you avoid the binary groups.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use giganews but when former isp dropped newsgroups, we got a
>> >> > lifetime 2.49 a month deal and I grabbed it. You have time if you
>> >> > haven't decided, to ask folks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry David, I know it sucks for you.
>> >>
>> >> Can one install a Usenet client on a Google Smurf computer?
>> >
>> >Chrome isn't that bad. There seem to be several options out there.
>> I asked my artificially intelligent friend:
>> "Unfortunately, installing a Usenet client directly on a Chromebook in
>> its stock state is not possible."
>
> I could install a Linux distro on my Chromebook and then run whatever the heck NNTP program that's available. I'm not going to do that. That would be like moving backwards, not forward. I won't ever go in a backward direction. When I'm really old and decrepit, I might.

the clickety-click usenet interfaces provided by most
browsers are not faster to read and respond. text only
terminals with an actual usenet reading and writing
program will be a lot faster for those who read many
messages a day.

if on the other hand you are only reading and writing
to a few groups then some fancy browser interface might
be just fine.

i stopped reading one group because i finally realized
i no longer was going to work on that code any more so
that saves me several thousand messages a day that i was
skimming before.

songbird

dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 10:00:32 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 19:48:47 +0000, "cshenk"
>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 23:40:28 +0000, "cshenk"
>>>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eternal September seems to work. MT has some accout where you pay
>>>>> by download size, seems super cheap if you avoid the binary groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use giganews but when former isp dropped newsgroups, we got a
>>>>> lifetime 2.49 a month deal and I grabbed it. You have time if you
>>>>> haven't decided, to ask folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry David, I know it sucks for you.
>>>>
>>>> Can one install a Usenet client on a Google Smurf computer?
>>>
>>> Chrome isn't that bad. There seem to be several options out there.
>> I asked my artificially intelligent friend:
>> "Unfortunately, installing a Usenet client directly on a Chromebook in
>> its stock state is not possible."
>
> I could install a Linux distro on my Chromebook and then run whatever the heck NNTP program that's available. I'm not going to do that. That would be like moving backwards, not forward. I won't ever go in a backward direction. When I'm really old and decrepit, I might.
>

Good. Hang in there Uncle.

But we'll miss yoose. Yoose the only special asian we ever had.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 7:36:30 PM UTC-10, > wrote:
>> bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 5:48:12 PM UTC-8, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 2:54:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 16:23:30 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>>>>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 2:09:55 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 23:40:28 +0000, "cshenk"
>>>>>>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eternal September seems to work. MT has some accout where you pay by
>>>>>>>> download size, seems super cheap if you avoid the binary groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use giganews but when former isp dropped newsgroups, we got a
>>>>>>>> lifetime 2.49 a month deal and I grabbed it. You have time if you
>>>>>>>> haven't decided, to ask folks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry David, I know it sucks for you.
>>>>>>> Can one install a Usenet client on a Google Smurf computer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I consider this to be great news. Time to move on. The only thing I'm
>>>>>> worried about catching Covid and not being able to work between
>>>>>> Christmas and New Years day. I typically wouldn't be worried about
>>>>>> that but last year I promised my job that I'd stand in while the boss
>>>>>> was visiting his relatives. I caught Covid and was unable to fulfill
>>>>>> my obligation. This year I promised the same thing. I normally
>>>>>> wouldn't worry about it but my granddaughter tested positive for
>>>>>> Covid. If the same thing happens this year, it would be a serious loss
>>>>>> of face. I would have to cut open my belly. I want to avoid doing that.
>>>>> Lol. Would he believe you a second time? Or, if he's Asian, would he
>>>>> say he believed you, but wouldn't really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, are you saying you'll leave RFC and I'll have to face this coven
>>>>> of white boomers on my own?
>>>> That guy is not going to believe me the second time. I assured him that
>>>> I would be there. That was before I got the news that my granddaughter
>>>> had tested positive.
>>>> As far as Google Groups goes, they thought they had solved the spam
>>>> problems but that seems to have backfired on them and they freaked and
>>>> pulled the plug. Well, there you go.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.seroundtable.com/google-groups-dropping-in-ranking-visibility-search-36546.html
>>>
>>> I'm not so convinced. We can't seem to talk reliably here, yet board
>>> members at the world's top corporations have no problem communicating
>>> online. Equal rights? Maybe some are more equal than others are? Am I
>>> dumb or am I seriously missing something?
>>>
>>> And if google groups won't improve because of poor funding, then put it
>>> up on the non-profit-only market. It would be the perfect "security
>>> whipping boy" for M.I.T. or Caltech or Cal Berkeley or some place
>>> operating under non-profit status..
>>>
>> Google groups won't be missed. I'm just happy this group didn't get the
>> hundreds of thai casino messages that were flooding some of the comp.sys.*
>> groups.
>>
>> The index has been unreliable for years for searching the old threads.
>> Sometimes it would just not return messages that we knew were there. And
>> when it did return results it would happily let a user sent a 35 year old
>> followup none of the other providers would carry what they were responding
>> to.
>>
>> I don't expect explosive growth in non-groups text users but we're out
>> there. I think niches will still carry on.
>>
>> Joe
>
> I do searches frequently. I don't have problems. Let's face it, yoose mugs just don't have the skills to do a proper search.
>

Exactly, Uncle. They don't have google.

And if yoose come back here after feb 2024, yoose won't be able
to save face. Not at all. Yoose will be a discredited asian
blowhard. Unless yoose do seppuku. Only way of honor for yoose,
Uncle.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 10:00:32 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 19:48:47 +0000, "cshenk"
>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 23:40:28 +0000, "cshenk"
>>>> <csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eternal September seems to work. MT has some accout where you pay
>>>>> by download size, seems super cheap if you avoid the binary groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use giganews but when former isp dropped newsgroups, we got a
>>>>> lifetime 2.49 a month deal and I grabbed it. You have time if you
>>>>> haven't decided, to ask folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry David, I know it sucks for you.
>>>>
>>>> Can one install a Usenet client on a Google Smurf computer?
>>>
>>> Chrome isn't that bad. There seem to be several options out there.
>> I asked my artificially intelligent friend:
>> "Unfortunately, installing a Usenet client directly on a Chromebook in
>> its stock state is not possible."
>
> I could install a Linux distro on my Chromebook and then run whatever the heck NNTP program that's available. I'm not going to do that. That would be like moving backwards, not forward. I won't ever go in a backward direction. When I'm really old and decrepit, I might.
>

Ok uncle ... we'll miss all yoose asian wisdom.

Goodbye.