The Seekers I Am Australian

This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963

On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 23:54:35 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>The Seekers I Am Australian
>
>This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963

I'm included, after all "from all the lands on earth we come". This
one starts in the local dialect:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrcUKgP_sks>

On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> The Seekers I Am Australian
>
> This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963

Perhaps. But maybe not the real and true Australians. I find the song rather creepy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zl1FcN_q0E

On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:36:19 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> The Seekers I Am Australian
>>
>> This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963
>
>Perhaps. But maybe not the real and true Australians.

Just like you and your family aren't real Hawaiians, you mean?

On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 9:58:07 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:36:19 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> The Seekers I Am Australian
> >>
> >> This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago..
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963
> >
> >Perhaps. But maybe not the real and true Australians.
> Just like you and your family aren't real Hawaiians, you mean?

That's absolutely correct. OTOH, the difference between you and us is that we know who the real Hawaiians are. Yoose guys have no idea who the real Australians are. OTOH, My grandkids are part Hawaiian, they're learning to speak olelo Hawaii. We embrace the Hawaiian culture. What the heck do you know about the native culture? Nuttin.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:55:13 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 9:58:07 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:36:19 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> The Seekers I Am Australian
>> >>
>> >> This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963
>> >
>> >Perhaps. But maybe not the real and true Australians.
>> Just like you and your family aren't real Hawaiians, you mean?
>
>That's absolutely correct. OTOH, the difference between you and us is that we know who the real Hawaiians are. Yoose guys have no idea who the real Australians are. OTOH, My grandkids are part Hawaiian, they're learning to speak olelo Hawaii. We embrace the Hawaiian culture. What the heck do you know about the native culture? Nuttin.

You said your grandkids had one Hawaiian toe. That's how Hawaiian they
are. Right, enough said. They're not Hawaiian.

Just because you like to rub shoulders with the idea of being Hawaiian
and pretend to be like them, doesn't take away from the fact that
you're just as much an invader as the European and Asian Australians
and the European and Asian Americans. What you do is cultural
appropriation and you know how woke people feel about that! Leave
those Hawaiians alone and stop pretending to be one. You're just a
genetically confused Asian.

On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 12:05:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:55:13 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 9:58:07 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 22:36:19 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> The Seekers I Am Australian
> >> >>
> >> >> This is from about 10 years ago. Judith passed on just over a year ago.
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrLTe1_9zso&list=RDMMcnFzCmAyOp8&index=19&ab_channel=rich963
> >> >
> >> >Perhaps. But maybe not the real and true Australians.
> >> Just like you and your family aren't real Hawaiians, you mean?
> >
> >That's absolutely correct. OTOH, the difference between you and us is that we know who the real Hawaiians are. Yoose guys have no idea who the real Australians are. OTOH, My grandkids are part Hawaiian, they're learning to speak olelo Hawaii. We embrace the Hawaiian culture. What the heck do you know about the native culture? Nuttin.
> You said your grandkids had one Hawaiian toe. That's how Hawaiian they
> are. Right, enough said. They're not Hawaiian.
>
> Just because you like to rub shoulders with the idea of being Hawaiian
> and pretend to be like them, doesn't take away from the fact that
> you're just as much an invader as the European and Asian Australians
> and the European and Asian Americans. What you do is cultural
> appropriation and you know how woke people feel about that! Leave
> those Hawaiians alone and stop pretending to be one. You're just a
> genetically confused Asian.

That's Hawaiian humor for you. We like to joke about the Hawaiian big toe. The reality is that they're more Hawaiian than a toe. I'd say maybe an entire right leg would be Hawaiian. People like you like to believe that you can define who is Hawaiian and who is not. Your people used to kidnap native kids from their families and raise them as white people. Maybe that's still being done today. Shameful. The Hawaiian these days will have names like Wong, Cope, Moore, Jones-Wong, DeSoto et al. People like you don't get to say who is Hawaiian anymore. That's the breaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTQ0sk7NxI

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:45:07 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 12:05:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:55:13 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >That's absolutely correct. OTOH, the difference between you and us is that we know who the real Hawaiians are. Yoose guys have no idea who the real Australians are. OTOH, My grandkids are part Hawaiian, they're learning to speak olelo Hawaii. We embrace the Hawaiian culture. What the heck do you know about the native culture? Nuttin.
>> You said your grandkids had one Hawaiian toe. That's how Hawaiian they
>> are. Right, enough said. They're not Hawaiian.
>>
>> Just because you like to rub shoulders with the idea of being Hawaiian
>> and pretend to be like them, doesn't take away from the fact that
>> you're just as much an invader as the European and Asian Australians
>> and the European and Asian Americans. What you do is cultural
>> appropriation and you know how woke people feel about that! Leave
>> those Hawaiians alone and stop pretending to be one. You're just a
>> genetically confused Asian.
>
>That's Hawaiian humor for you. We like to joke about the Hawaiian big toe. The reality is that they're more Hawaiian than a toe. I'd say maybe an entire right leg would be Hawaiian. People like you like to believe that you can define who is Hawaiian and who is not. Your people used to kidnap native kids from their families and raise them as white people. Maybe that's still being done today. Shameful. The Hawaiian these days will have names like Wong, Cope, Moore, Jones-Wong, DeSoto et al. People like you don't get to say who is Hawaiian anymore. That's the breaks.
>
So now the invaders call themselves real Hawaiians. That's how it goes
when enough time passes. If you were really Hawaiian, you'd speak the
language after all these years. You're just not really interested. You
leave that to your grandkids. And then you're "Hawaiian" by proxy. Ghe
ghe. It's all a bit of grandstanding over nothing. Hot air.

PS: I don't believe your grandchildren have a drop of Hawaiian blood
in them. Based on your own words over time.

On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 8:10:52 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:45:07 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 12:05:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:55:13 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >That's absolutely correct. OTOH, the difference between you and us is that we know who the real Hawaiians are. Yoose guys have no idea who the real Australians are. OTOH, My grandkids are part Hawaiian, they're learning to speak olelo Hawaii. We embrace the Hawaiian culture. What the heck do you know about the native culture? Nuttin.
> >> You said your grandkids had one Hawaiian toe. That's how Hawaiian they
> >> are. Right, enough said. They're not Hawaiian.
> >>
> >> Just because you like to rub shoulders with the idea of being Hawaiian
> >> and pretend to be like them, doesn't take away from the fact that
> >> you're just as much an invader as the European and Asian Australians
> >> and the European and Asian Americans. What you do is cultural
> >> appropriation and you know how woke people feel about that! Leave
> >> those Hawaiians alone and stop pretending to be one. You're just a
> >> genetically confused Asian.
> >
> >That's Hawaiian humor for you. We like to joke about the Hawaiian big toe. The reality is that they're more Hawaiian than a toe. I'd say maybe an entire right leg would be Hawaiian. People like you like to believe that you can define who is Hawaiian and who is not. Your people used to kidnap native kids from their families and raise them as white people. Maybe that's still being done today. Shameful. The Hawaiian these days will have names like Wong, Cope, Moore, Jones-Wong, DeSoto et al. People like you don't get to say who is Hawaiian anymore. That's the breaks.
> >
> So now the invaders call themselves real Hawaiians. That's how it goes
> when enough time passes. If you were really Hawaiian, you'd speak the
> language after all these years. You're just not really interested. You
> leave that to your grandkids. And then you're "Hawaiian" by proxy. Ghe
> ghe. It's all a bit of grandstanding over nothing. Hot air.
>
> PS: I don't believe your grandchildren have a drop of Hawaiian blood
> in them. Based on your own words over time.

Your belief is not true. It's the Aussies that sing out "I am Australian." That song gives me the creeps. The native Hawaiians are called "Kanaka maoli." The Hawaiians that are not ethnically Hawaiians but love the Hawaiian culture and people of Hawaii are the "locals." The people that don't care about Hawaiian culture or the people are mostly called "tourists." The locals know who the real Hawaiians are and have much Aloha for them. What's your point?

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 10:25:19 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 8:10:52 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:45:07 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 12:05:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 01:55:13 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That's absolutely correct. OTOH, the difference between you and us is that we know who the real Hawaiians are. Yoose guys have no idea who the real Australians are. OTOH, My grandkids are part Hawaiian, they're learning to speak olelo Hawaii. We embrace the Hawaiian culture. What the heck do you know about the native culture? Nuttin.
>> >> You said your grandkids had one Hawaiian toe. That's how Hawaiian they
>> >> are. Right, enough said. They're not Hawaiian.
>> >>
>> >> Just because you like to rub shoulders with the idea of being Hawaiian
>> >> and pretend to be like them, doesn't take away from the fact that
>> >> you're just as much an invader as the European and Asian Australians
>> >> and the European and Asian Americans. What you do is cultural
>> >> appropriation and you know how woke people feel about that! Leave
>> >> those Hawaiians alone and stop pretending to be one. You're just a
>> >> genetically confused Asian.
>> >
>> >That's Hawaiian humor for you. We like to joke about the Hawaiian big toe. The reality is that they're more Hawaiian than a toe. I'd say maybe an entire right leg would be Hawaiian. People like you like to believe that you can define who is Hawaiian and who is not. Your people used to kidnap native kids from their families and raise them as white people. Maybe that's still being done today. Shameful. The Hawaiian these days will have names like Wong, Cope, Moore, Jones-Wong, DeSoto et al. People like you don't get to say who is Hawaiian anymore. That's the breaks.
>> >
>> So now the invaders call themselves real Hawaiians. That's how it goes
>> when enough time passes. If you were really Hawaiian, you'd speak the
>> language after all these years. You're just not really interested. You
>> leave that to your grandkids. And then you're "Hawaiian" by proxy. Ghe
>> ghe. It's all a bit of grandstanding over nothing. Hot air.
>>
>> PS: I don't believe your grandchildren have a drop of Hawaiian blood
>> in them. Based on your own words over time.
>
>Your belief is not true. It's the Aussies that sing out "I am Australian." That song gives me the creeps. The native Hawaiians are called "Kanaka maoli." The Hawaiians that are not ethnically Hawaiians but love the Hawaiian culture and people of Hawaii are the "locals." The people that don't care about Hawaiian culture or the people are mostly called "tourists." The locals know who the real Hawaiians are and have much Aloha for them. What's your point?

That you're fake.