I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
wasn't a soul in sight.
During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
I think I'll take a nap. ;)

leo

On 2024-01-07 12:15 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
> wasn't a soul in sight.
> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>
>

We had about half an inch. I was thinking of going out and scraping it
off the stairs and sidewalk, but it is sitting just above freezing and
it has melted.

On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 7:15:44 AM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
> wasn't a soul in sight.
> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>
> leo

I got my son a snow shovel for a present. I spotted it in a hardware store years ago. It was so weird that I just had to get it. The last time I saw it, it was going to the dump. I love that snow shovel but we never used it once.

On 1/7/2024 12:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
> wasn't a soul in sight.
> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>
> leo

With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
blower?

On 2024-01-07 10:15 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
> wasn't a soul in sight.
> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>
> leo
I shovelled that much this morning at 6:45, and I'm older than you:-)

Ed P wrote:
> On 1/7/2024 12:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
>> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
>> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
>> wasn't a soul in sight.
>> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
>> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
>> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>>
>> leo
>
>
> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
> blower?

we had a light layer this morning, i was pysched because i
really enjoy shovelling and was looking forwards to having a
reason to go outside and get some fresh air and exercise.

next time i looked it had already melted away. :(

songbird

On 2024-01-07, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Ed P wrote:
>> On 1/7/2024 12:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
>>> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
>>> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
>>> wasn't a soul in sight.
>>> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
>>> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
>>> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>>>
>>> leo
>>
>>
>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>> blower?
>
> we had a light layer this morning, i was pysched because i
> really enjoy shovelling and was looking forwards to having a
> reason to go outside and get some fresh air and exercise.

You should have an opportunity Tuesday/Wednesday. And again next
weekend.

We're supposed to switch over to rain, so I probably won't have to
shovel on Wednesday. Saturday, OTOH, could show me 4-6 inches.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/7/2024 12:15 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> I just shoveled a inch and a half of snow off the driveway and sidewalk
>> in 17 F degree weather at 77 years of age. Nobody offered to help.
>> I suppose that at 8:00 AM on a Sunday, I should have expected it. There
>> wasn't a soul in sight.
>> During last year's big snows, nothing hit the valley, and I worried
>> whether I had forgotten how to shovel. Nope!
>> I think I'll take a nap. ;)
>>
>> leo
>
>
>With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>blower?

Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!

On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>> blower?
>
> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!

They aren't all noisy. I have an a plug in electric that I bought years
ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I
now have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are
quieter and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud.
Last summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that
loud should be banned, but not the others.

On 2024-01-07, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
> blower?

Maybe I had a little over an inch and a half. I was only able to go
about fifteen feet before the shovel filled, but that's what I did.
I don't have a leaf blower. I thought of buying one this year but didn't
get around to it.
I live at the end of a east/west street. I have one arborvitae and no
leafy trees yet manage to fill nine 39 gallon leaf bags each year.
Well...usta be. I didn't rake the backyard at all this year and only
filled six bags. Two of my neighbors have big trees that hang over the
fence in the back. TMI?

On 1/8/2024 9:59 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-01-07, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>> blower?
>
>
> Maybe I had a little over an inch and a half. I was only able to go
> about fifteen feet before the shovel filled, but that's what I did.
> I don't have a leaf blower. I thought of buying one this year but didn't
> get around to it.
> I live at the end of a east/west street. I have one arborvitae and no
> leafy trees yet manage to fill nine 39 gallon leaf bags each year.
> Well...usta be. I didn't rake the backyard at all this year and only
> filled six bags. Two of my neighbors have big trees that hang over the
> fence in the back. TMI?

Yesterday I talked to my friends in CT and MA. They got about 10". I
shoveled that for many years but eventually bought a snow blower and you
just walked behind it. Good investment. We averaged 48" a year.

On 2024-01-08 9:59 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-01-07, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>> blower?
>
>
> Maybe I had a little over an inch and a half. I was only able to go
> about fifteen feet before the shovel filled, but that's what I did.
> I don't have a leaf blower. I thought of buying one this year but didn't
> get around to it.
> I live at the end of a east/west street. I have one arborvitae and no
> leafy trees yet manage to fill nine 39 gallon leaf bags each year.
> Well...usta be. I didn't rake the backyard at all this year and only
> filled six bags. Two of my neighbors have big trees that hang over the
> fence in the back. TMI?

A leaf blower would not work on most of the snow that we get here. It is
rare that we get the light fluffy stuff that can be blown like that.
Our snow is usually wetter and heavier. Sometimes it is too we even for
a snow blower. You can make one pass through but once it is been thrown
it packs down wetter and heavier and clogs the machine. Sometimes when
we get a wet heavy snow I wait until the temperature drops at night and
it freezes a bit.

On 2024-01-07, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> I shovelled that much this morning at 6:45, and I'm older than you:-)

But you're used to it. You live in a Winter Hell compared to the rest of
us. You don't have no steenkin' snow blower, do you? ;)
I dealt with this in 2003 when I was younger. There was one worse in
1997 or 1998, but I didn't get a picture. I shoveled the roof with that
one. Again...younger.

<https://postimg.cc/mhb2y4HD>

On 2024-01-08 8:26 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-01-07, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> I shovelled that much this morning at 6:45, and I'm older than you:-)
>
>
> But you're used to it. You live in a Winter Hell compared to the rest of
> us. You don't have no steenkin' snow blower, do you? ;)
> I dealt with this in 2003 when I was younger. There was one worse in
> 1997 or 1998, but I didn't get a picture. I shoveled the roof with that
> one. Again...younger.
>
> <https://postimg.cc/mhb2y4HD>
>
>
>
Actually, we've had very little snow this winter and it has been
unusually warm. The authorities are worried that we'll have drought
conditions this summer as the snow pack is not up to par.
I do have a snow blower, a Honda, but it wasn't worth using it the other
day, and anyway, I never use it before ~9am so as not to disturb the
neighbours.
I used a leaf blower yesterday when there was not enough to shovel.

On 1/7/2024 7:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>>> blower?
>>
>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>
> They aren't all noisy. I have an a plug in electric that I bought years
> ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I now
> have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are quieter
> and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud. Last
> summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that loud
> should be banned, but not the others.

The people who own the laundromat across the street like to run the leaf
blower on their parking lot and sidewalk, usually after 11 PM. It's a
quieter electric model, but that doesn't save it from being terribly
annoying. I agree with Lucretia on banning leaf blowers.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:20:39 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/7/2024 7:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>>>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>>>> blower?
>>>
>>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>>
>> They aren't all noisy. I have an a plug in electric that I bought years
>> ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I now
>> have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are quieter
>> and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud. Last
>> summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that loud
>> should be banned, but not the others.
>
>The people who own the laundromat across the street like to run the leaf
>blower on their parking lot and sidewalk, usually after 11 PM. It's a
>quieter electric model, but that doesn't save it from being terribly
>annoying. I agree with Lucretia on banning leaf blowers.

Our ride-on and push mowers are much noisier than our leaf blower.
You'd have to ban a lot more than just leaf blowers. But it's
antisocial to use stuff like that after 8 pm or so, let alone after 11
pm.

On 2024-01-10, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
> On 1/7/2024 7:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>>>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>>>> blower?
>>>
>>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>>
>> They aren't all noisy. I have an a plug in electric that I bought years
>> ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I now
>> have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are quieter
>> and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud. Last
>> summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that loud
>> should be banned, but not the others.
>
> The people who own the laundromat across the street like to run the leaf
> blower on their parking lot and sidewalk, usually after 11 PM. It's a
> quieter electric model, but that doesn't save it from being terribly
> annoying. I agree with Lucretia on banning leaf blowers.

What would I use to clean the gutters on my house?

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 03:56:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:20:39 -0500, Michael Trew
><michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>
>>On 1/7/2024 7:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>>>>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>>>>> blower?
>>>>
>>>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>>>
>>> They aren't all noisy. I have an a plug in electric that I bought years
>>> ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I now
>>> have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are quieter
>>> and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud. Last
>>> summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that loud
>>> should be banned, but not the others.
>>
>>The people who own the laundromat across the street like to run the leaf
>>blower on their parking lot and sidewalk, usually after 11 PM. It's a
>>quieter electric model, but that doesn't save it from being terribly
>>annoying. I agree with Lucretia on banning leaf blowers.
>
>Our ride-on and push mowers are much noisier than our leaf blower.
>You'd have to ban a lot more than just leaf blowers. But it's
>antisocial to use stuff like that after 8 pm or so, let alone after 11
>pm.

I don't find push mowers noisy! Nobody round here has need of a ride
on mower, even the lawn company doesn't use one.

On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 7:20:43 AM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> > On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> >>
> >> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
> >
Some of the yard crews that do my neighbors properties use those backpack
type gas powered leaf blowers. They're a bit noisy, but quickly get the job done.
> >
> > They aren't all noisy. I have a plug in electric that I bought years
> > ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I now
> > have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are quieter
> > and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud. Last
> > summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that loud
> > should be banned, but not the others.
> >
> The people who own the laundromat across the street like to run the leaf
> blower on their parking lot and sidewalk, usually after 11 PM. It's a
> quieter electric model, but that doesn't save it from being terribly
> annoying. I agree with Lucretia on banning leaf blowers.
>
I've got a lithium battery rechargeable one and it's very handy and does the
job quickly. It's not terribly noisy but I'd rather use that than wear out my arm
and a broom getting rid of leaves and grass on the sidewalk plus blowing off
my back porch.

On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 12:14:47 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
> >>
> What would I use to clean the gutters on my house?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Gutter guards?? I had them installed on my house 10 or 12 years ago and haven't
had a clogged gutter or downspout since. Neighbor who is a roofer has been up
there a few times since installation and he's said each time my gutters are as
clean as a whistle.

https://i.postimg.cc/t4mrsg28/Gutter-Guards.jpg

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 15:31:15 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 03:56:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:20:39 -0500, Michael Trew
>><michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 1/7/2024 7:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 13:32:40 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> With a light dusting like that, you just walk with the shovel and toss
>>>>>> it to the side every 20 feet or so. Better yet, do you have a leaf
>>>>>> blower?
>>>>>
>>>>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>>>>
>>>> They aren't all noisy. I have an a plug in electric that I bought years
>>>> ago, a gas powered one that came with a lawn tractor I bought, and I now
>>>> have a battery powered one. The electric and battery powered are quieter
>>>> and produce more wind, but the gas powered is not really loud. Last
>>>> summer I heard a lawn crew using one that was really load. One that loud
>>>> should be banned, but not the others.
>>>
>>>The people who own the laundromat across the street like to run the leaf
>>>blower on their parking lot and sidewalk, usually after 11 PM. It's a
>>>quieter electric model, but that doesn't save it from being terribly
>>>annoying. I agree with Lucretia on banning leaf blowers.
>>
>>Our ride-on and push mowers are much noisier than our leaf blower.
>>You'd have to ban a lot more than just leaf blowers. But it's
>>antisocial to use stuff like that after 8 pm or so, let alone after 11
>>pm.
>
>I don't find push mowers noisy! Nobody round here has need of a ride
>on mower, even the lawn company doesn't use one.

City.

On 2024-01-10 2:37 p.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 12:14:47 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>>>>
>> What would I use to clean the gutters on my house?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Gutter guards?? I had them installed on my house 10 or 12 years ago and haven't
> had a clogged gutter or downspout since. Neighbor who is a roofer has been up
> there a few times since installation and he's said each time my gutters are as
> clean as a whistle.
>

I have had gutter guards for years. It was about 19 years ago that that
huge branch fell on my roof and the insurance company paid for new
eavestroughing and replaced the gutter guards. I checked them every year
or two and they gutters were always clean. I had a problem this year.
For some reason this year there was a layer of crap sitting on top and
the water wasn't get through. I had to go up and scrap that layer of
leafy bits off. It was the first time in the dozen or so years I have
had them there, and it was a lot quicker and easier than having to reach
in and scoop out that slimy slimy leaf filled water.

On 2024-01-10, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 12:14:47 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> >> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>> >>
>> What would I use to clean the gutters on my house?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Gutter guards?? I had them installed on my house 10 or 12 years ago and haven't

I have gutter guards. The mature maple trees drop plenty of stuff
that stays on top of the gutter guards, especially the seeds.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 1/10/2024 3:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 15:31:15 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>>>
>>> Our ride-on and push mowers are much noisier than our leaf blower.
>>> You'd have to ban a lot more than just leaf blowers. But it's
>>> antisocial to use stuff like that after 8 pm or so, let alone after 11
>>> pm.
>>
>> I don't find push mowers noisy! Nobody round here has need of a ride
>> on mower, even the lawn company doesn't use one.
>
> City.

Lawn service is a year round thing here, though slower in winter. The
crew that does my house and my son next door sort of attack it. One guy
on a big riding mower, another two guys with trimmers, another with a
blower. Both houses done in less than ten minutes.

My other neighbor has a different service, but same deal. Sure, a bit
of noise but gone is a few minutes.

On 2024-01-10 4:44 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-01-10, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 12:14:47 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 2024-01-07 7:03 p.m., lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noisy bloody things, shouldn't be allowed!!
>>>>>
>>> What would I use to clean the gutters on my house?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Gutter guards?? I had them installed on my house 10 or 12 years ago and haven't
>
> I have gutter guards. The mature maple trees drop plenty of stuff
> that stays on top of the gutter guards, especially the seeds.
>

Yeah. I have one huge maple tree in my front yard. Until two years ago I
had two but one had to be removed last year, and thank goodness it was
on town property. The accumulation was mostly the seeds. It was never a
problem before. They usually dry out and blow away, but this year was
exceptionally wet so they sat there and decayed and formed a damp heavy
mass.