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 by: GM - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:57 UTC

4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good

In late winter, even fans of seasonal eating need a break from root vegetables. Try these tactics to transform bland grocery-store options into summer-worthy treats.

"True, a wan winter tomato from the supermarket won’t ever be mistaken for a homegrown August heirloom. But if you exert a little effort in selecting and preparing your local produce aisle’s offerings, you can edge pretty close..."

https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/food-cooking/tricks-to-make-sad-tomatoes-actually-taste-good-0d57f7de?mod=food-cooking_more_article_pos3

By Martha Holmberg fro THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
Updated March 2, 2024

"AH, EATING with the seasons. Fava beans in spring! Zucchini blossoms in early summer! And of course the ultimate seasonal treat, for me anyway: the voluptuous tomatoes of late summer.

But what about winter? Butternut squash, hardy greens and root vegetables have their charms…up to a point. At this time of the year, when the winter landscape has gone grubby around the edges and I’m sick of all my sweaters, I find myself craving a shot of edible sunshine. Which is why, on any given blustery day in March, you might catch me at the grocery store reaching for a plastic clamshell of tomatoes. One can celebrate the rutabaga for only so long.

True, a wan winter tomato from the supermarket won’t ever be mistaken for a homegrown August heirloom. But if you exert a little effort in selecting and preparing your local produce aisle’s offerings, you can edge pretty close—and enjoy their sweet-tart, umami-rich pleasures even when there’s still snow on the ground. All it takes are a few tried-and-true kitchen tricks. Here’s how.

1. ADD CONTRAST:

Even the best winter tomatoes taste kind of flat (the poor things were likely raised in a factory, after all). But you can enhance their better qualities by giving them a quick edit, the way you boost your iPhone photos.

Start by increasing the contrast between acid and sweet, which you can do with two items you likely already have in your cupboard or fridge. For acid, sprinkle halved or thickly sliced tomatoes with a few drops of fresh lemon juice or a quality vinegar such as Champagne, white-wine or my favorite, Sherry vinegar.

For sweetness, a very tiny sprinkle of sugar will do the trick. White sugar has a neutral flavor, so it’s preferable to honey or a darker sugar like turbinado, which could be intrusive.

Want to keep it even simpler? Late-harvest vinegars—such as Katz’s Late Harvest Sauvignon Blanc or Zinfandel, or a white balsamic—offer a lovely tension between sweet and sour and a drizzle produces a similar effect using just one ingredient.

2. DIAL UP THE SATURATION:

When we think about the way good tomatoes taste, “saturated” flavor usually equals fruitiness. Dressing slices with a squeeze of orange juice can add a zippy freshness that harmonizes with the tomato’s natural flavor profile. Or, for a similar effect, tip out a few drops of pomegranate molasses, though use restraint—the syrupy stuff can overpower.

Finally, don’t forget salt, which can magically bring all the good qualities of a tomato into focus. Whichever enhancements you add, let the tomatoes macerate for a few minutes, drain off any excess juices, then continue making your salad (or any other raw-tomato dish) just as you would if you were using prime summer specimens.

3. ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE:

Even a dull, insipid tomato will develop a personality in the oven. The key is roasting: high heat cooks off much of the water in the tomato and thereby concentrates flavor. It also caramelizes the fruit’s natural sugars. To achieve a jammy masterpiece, arrange chicken thighs, onions, garlic and cherry tomatoes on a sheet pan and roast for a speedy dinner. Or keep it simple and roast tomatoes on their own, to use in salad, pasta or any number of other dishes. Just slice them in half, drizzle with olive oil, season with salt and roast at 375 degrees until the half-moons shrink slightly, browning around the edges, but remain juicy.

4. HAVE A CAN - DO ATTITUDE:

Lastly, the FBI won’t arrest you if you reach for a can of tomatoes. And if you do, soups or sauces aren’t your only options. Like fresh tomatoes, whole canned ones benefit from roasting; the process transforms them into sweet-tart flavor bombs.

To prep, gently squeeze the tomatoes to remove seeds and excess juice, lay them on an oiled sheet pan, drizzle with a bit more oil and sprinkle with salt. Then roast at 300 degrees until shrunken, sweet and slightly chewy.

From there, nearly endless possibilities unfold. Toss the tomatoes into a fast frittata. Layer them with fresh mozzarella for a winter caprese salad. Add them to a grain bowl with roasted root vegetables. Or even make a gloriously out-of-season BLT, to nibble on as you page through seed catalogs, dreaming of your own heirloom tomatoes, ripe and ready by next August...

GROCERY STORE TOMATOES THAT WON’T MAKE YOU SAD:

Three commonly available varieties worth putting in your basket.

It might be red and round, maybe it’s even “on the vine,” but your typical winter tomato probably doesn’t pack much flavor. Paradoxically, some of the most promising supermarket tomato varieties are those mass produced with proprietary branding—about as far from “local and seasonal” as you can get. Here, three good bets.

Campari:

Frequently grown hydroponically with no pesticides, these compact, round, red tomatoes are allowed to fully ripen before they’re picked and aren’t blasted with ethylene gas to hasten the process, like so many other commercial tomatoes. Camparis are generally well-balanced between sweet and acid with at least a hint of that elusive tomato flavor. Usually packaged in 1-pound plastic containers, they’re great for slicing and a nice size for roasting.

Kumato:

These stunning brownish-burgundy tomatoes are medium in size (3 to 4 ounces) and have a great sugar-to-acid ratio that leans toward the sugar. Kumatos are usually sold in 1-pound cardboard sleeves. Their flesh is firm and silky, and they slice beautifully.

Jacobs Farm Del Cabo:

Organically field-grown in Baja and neighboring Mexican states, these mostly cherry-size tomatoes come in a range of colors and shapes—red, orange, yellow, round, oblong, pear-shaped. The smaller tomatoes generally have very good flavor, bright acidity and plenty of juice..."

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 by: BryanGSimmons - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:11 UTC

On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>
> In late winter, even fans of seasonal eating need a break from root
> vegetables. Try these tactics to transform bland grocery-store options
> into summer-worthy treats.
>
> "True, a wan winter tomato from the supermarket won’t ever be mistaken
> for a homegrown August heirloom. But if you exert a little effort in
> selecting and preparing your local produce aisle’s offerings, you can
> edge pretty close..."
>
> https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/food-cooking/tricks-to-make-sad-tomatoes-actually-taste-good-0d57f7de?mod=food-cooking_more_article_pos3
>
> By Martha Holmberg fro THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
> Updated March 2, 2024
>
>
> "AH, EATING with the seasons. Fava beans in spring! Zucchini blossoms in
> early summer! And of course the ultimate seasonal treat, for me anyway:
> the voluptuous tomatoes of late summer.
>
> But what about winter? Butternut squash, hardy greens and root
> vegetables have their charms…up to a point. At this time of the year,
> when the winter landscape has gone grubby around the edges and I’m sick
> of all my sweaters, I find myself craving a shot of edible sunshine.
> Which is why, on any given blustery day in March, you might catch me at
> the grocery store reaching for a plastic clamshell of tomatoes. One can
> celebrate the rutabaga for only so long.
>
> True, a wan winter tomato from the supermarket won’t ever be mistaken
> for a homegrown August heirloom. But if you exert a little effort in
> selecting and preparing your local produce aisle’s offerings, you can
> edge pretty close—and enjoy their sweet-tart, umami-rich pleasures even
> when there’s still snow on the ground. All it takes are a few
> tried-and-true kitchen tricks. Here’s how.
>
> 1. ADD CONTRAST:
>
> Even the best winter tomatoes taste kind of flat (the poor things were
> likely raised in a factory, after all). But you can enhance their better
> qualities by giving them a quick edit, the way you boost your iPhone
> photos.
> Start by increasing the contrast between acid and sweet, which you can
> do with two items you likely already have in your cupboard or fridge.
> For acid, sprinkle halved or thickly sliced tomatoes with a few drops of
> fresh lemon juice or a quality vinegar such as Champagne, white-wine or
> my favorite, Sherry vinegar.
>
> For sweetness, a very tiny sprinkle of sugar will do the trick. White
> sugar has a neutral flavor, so it’s preferable to honey or a darker
> sugar like turbinado, which could be intrusive.
> Want to keep it even simpler? Late-harvest vinegars—such as Katz’s Late
> Harvest Sauvignon Blanc or Zinfandel, or a white balsamic—offer a lovely
> tension between sweet and sour and a drizzle produces a similar effect
> using just one ingredient.
>
>
> 2. DIAL UP THE SATURATION:
>
> When we think about the way good tomatoes taste, “saturated” flavor
> usually equals fruitiness. Dressing slices with a squeeze of orange
> juice can add a zippy freshness that harmonizes with the tomato’s
> natural flavor profile. Or, for a similar effect, tip out a few drops of
> pomegranate molasses, though use restraint—the syrupy stuff can overpower.
> Finally, don’t forget salt, which can magically bring all the good
> qualities of a tomato into focus. Whichever enhancements you add, let
> the tomatoes macerate for a few minutes, drain off any excess juices,
> then continue making your salad (or any other raw-tomato dish) just as
> you would if you were using prime summer specimens.
>
>
> 3. ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE:
>
> Even a dull, insipid tomato will develop a personality in the oven. The
> key is roasting: high heat cooks off much of the water in the tomato and
> thereby concentrates flavor. It also caramelizes the fruit’s natural
> sugars. To achieve a jammy masterpiece, arrange chicken thighs, onions,
> garlic and cherry tomatoes on a sheet pan and roast for a speedy dinner.
> Or keep it simple and roast tomatoes on their own, to use in salad,
> pasta or any number of other dishes. Just slice them in half, drizzle
> with olive oil, season with salt and roast at 375 degrees until the
> half-moons shrink slightly, browning around the edges, but remain juicy.
>
>
> 4. HAVE A CAN - DO ATTITUDE:
>
> Lastly, the FBI won’t arrest you if you reach for a can of tomatoes. And
> if you do, soups or sauces aren’t your only options. Like fresh
> tomatoes, whole canned ones benefit from roasting; the process
> transforms them into sweet-tart flavor bombs.
> To prep, gently squeeze the tomatoes to remove seeds and excess juice,
> lay them on an oiled sheet pan, drizzle with a bit more oil and sprinkle
> with salt. Then roast at 300 degrees until shrunken, sweet and slightly
> chewy.
>
> From there, nearly endless possibilities unfold. Toss the tomatoes into
> a fast frittata. Layer them with fresh mozzarella for a winter caprese
> salad. Add them to a grain bowl with roasted root vegetables. Or even
> make a gloriously out-of-season BLT, to nibble on as you page through
> seed catalogs, dreaming of your own heirloom tomatoes, ripe and ready by
> next August...
>
Everything written above is worse than worthless. The author deserves
to be kicked in the shins.
>
> GROCERY STORE TOMATOES THAT WON’T MAKE YOU SAD:
>
> Three commonly available varieties worth putting in your basket.
>
> It might be red and round, maybe it’s even “on the vine,” but your
> typical winter tomato probably doesn’t pack much flavor. Paradoxically,
> some of the most promising supermarket tomato varieties are those mass
> produced with proprietary branding—about as far from “local and
> seasonal” as you can get. Here, three good bets.
> Campari:
>
> Frequently grown hydroponically with no pesticides, these compact,
> round, red tomatoes are allowed to fully ripen before they’re picked and
> aren’t blasted with ethylene gas to hasten the process, like so many
> other commercial tomatoes. Camparis are generally well-balanced between
> sweet and acid with at least a hint of that elusive tomato flavor.
> Usually packaged in 1-pound plastic containers, they’re great for
> slicing and a nice size for roasting.
>
> Kumato:
>
> These stunning brownish-burgundy tomatoes are medium in size (3 to 4
> ounces) and have a great sugar-to-acid ratio that leans toward the
> sugar. Kumatos are usually sold in 1-pound cardboard sleeves. Their
> flesh is firm and silky, and they slice beautifully.
>
> Jacobs Farm Del Cabo:
>
> Organically field-grown in Baja and neighboring Mexican states, these
> mostly cherry-size tomatoes come in a range of colors and shapes—red,
> orange, yellow, round, oblong, pear-shaped. The smaller tomatoes
> generally have very good flavor, bright acidity and plenty of juice..."
>
This is almost as worthless, as everyone knows that the super expensive
tomatoes are good.

--
--Bryan
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 by: GM - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:34 UTC

BryanGSimmons wrote:

> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>
>> In late winter, even fans of seasonal eating need a break from root
>> vegetables. Try these tactics to transform bland grocery-store options
>> into summer-worthy treats.
>>
>> "True, a wan winter tomato from the supermarket won’t ever be mistaken
>> for a homegrown August heirloom. But if you exert a little effort in
>> selecting and preparing your local produce aisle’s offerings, you can
>> edge pretty close..."
>>
>> https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/food-cooking/tricks-to-make-sad-tomatoes-actually-taste-good-0d57f7de?mod=food-cooking_more_article_pos3
>>
>> By Martha Holmberg fro THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
>> Updated March 2, 2024
>>
>>
>> "AH, EATING with the seasons. Fava beans in spring! Zucchini blossoms in
>> early summer! And of course the ultimate seasonal treat, for me anyway:
>> the voluptuous tomatoes of late summer.
>>
>> But what about winter? Butternut squash, hardy greens and root
>> vegetables have their charms…up to a point. At this time of the year,
>> when the winter landscape has gone grubby around the edges and I’m sick
>> of all my sweaters, I find myself craving a shot of edible sunshine.
>> Which is why, on any given blustery day in March, you might catch me at
>> the grocery store reaching for a plastic clamshell of tomatoes. One can
>> celebrate the rutabaga for only so long.
>>
>> True, a wan winter tomato from the supermarket won’t ever be mistaken
>> for a homegrown August heirloom. But if you exert a little effort in
>> selecting and preparing your local produce aisle’s offerings, you can
>> edge pretty close—and enjoy their sweet-tart, umami-rich pleasures even
>> when there’s still snow on the ground. All it takes are a few
>> tried-and-true kitchen tricks. Here’s how.
>>
>> 1. ADD CONTRAST:
>>
>> Even the best winter tomatoes taste kind of flat (the poor things were
>> likely raised in a factory, after all). But you can enhance their better
>> qualities by giving them a quick edit, the way you boost your iPhone
>> photos.
>> Start by increasing the contrast between acid and sweet, which you can
>> do with two items you likely already have in your cupboard or fridge.
>> For acid, sprinkle halved or thickly sliced tomatoes with a few drops of
>> fresh lemon juice or a quality vinegar such as Champagne, white-wine or
>> my favorite, Sherry vinegar.
>>
>> For sweetness, a very tiny sprinkle of sugar will do the trick. White
>> sugar has a neutral flavor, so it’s preferable to honey or a darker
>> sugar like turbinado, which could be intrusive.
>> Want to keep it even simpler? Late-harvest vinegars—such as Katz’s Late
>> Harvest Sauvignon Blanc or Zinfandel, or a white balsamic—offer a lovely
>> tension between sweet and sour and a drizzle produces a similar effect
>> using just one ingredient.
>>
>>
>> 2. DIAL UP THE SATURATION:
>>
>> When we think about the way good tomatoes taste, “saturated” flavor
>> usually equals fruitiness. Dressing slices with a squeeze of orange
>> juice can add a zippy freshness that harmonizes with the tomato’s
>> natural flavor profile. Or, for a similar effect, tip out a few drops of
>> pomegranate molasses, though use restraint—the syrupy stuff can overpower.
>> Finally, don’t forget salt, which can magically bring all the good
>> qualities of a tomato into focus. Whichever enhancements you add, let
>> the tomatoes macerate for a few minutes, drain off any excess juices,
>> then continue making your salad (or any other raw-tomato dish) just as
>> you would if you were using prime summer specimens.
>>
>>
>> 3. ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE:
>>
>> Even a dull, insipid tomato will develop a personality in the oven. The
>> key is roasting: high heat cooks off much of the water in the tomato and
>> thereby concentrates flavor. It also caramelizes the fruit’s natural
>> sugars. To achieve a jammy masterpiece, arrange chicken thighs, onions,
>> garlic and cherry tomatoes on a sheet pan and roast for a speedy dinner.
>> Or keep it simple and roast tomatoes on their own, to use in salad,
>> pasta or any number of other dishes. Just slice them in half, drizzle
>> with olive oil, season with salt and roast at 375 degrees until the
>> half-moons shrink slightly, browning around the edges, but remain juicy.
>>
>>
>> 4. HAVE A CAN - DO ATTITUDE:
>>
>> Lastly, the FBI won’t arrest you if you reach for a can of tomatoes. And
>> if you do, soups or sauces aren’t your only options. Like fresh
>> tomatoes, whole canned ones benefit from roasting; the process
>> transforms them into sweet-tart flavor bombs.
>> To prep, gently squeeze the tomatoes to remove seeds and excess juice,
>> lay them on an oiled sheet pan, drizzle with a bit more oil and sprinkle
>> with salt. Then roast at 300 degrees until shrunken, sweet and slightly
>> chewy.
>>
>> From there, nearly endless possibilities unfold. Toss the tomatoes into
>> a fast frittata. Layer them with fresh mozzarella for a winter caprese
>> salad. Add them to a grain bowl with roasted root vegetables. Or even
>> make a gloriously out-of-season BLT, to nibble on as you page through
>> seed catalogs, dreaming of your own heirloom tomatoes, ripe and ready by
>> next August...
> >
> Everything written above is worse than worthless. The author deserves
> to be kicked in the shins.

SO, Bryan, are you still "sad" about yer store - bought tomaters...???

;-D

--
GM

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 by: Snag - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 02:42 UTC

On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>
We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
chemicals ...
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they'll never take our freedom."
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 by: Bruce - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 04:00 UTC

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 21:42:56 -0500, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

>On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>
>We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
>own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
>chemicals ...

Careful Snag, not liking food additives is frowned upon in RFC. They
may think you're a new age, latte sipping, avocado eating commie.

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:25 UTC

On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>
> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
> own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
> chemicals ...

For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
citric acid.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: Snag - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:40 UTC

On 3/13/2024 4:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>
>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
>> own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
>> chemicals ...
>
> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
> citric acid.
>

I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
"chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !
--
Snag
"They may take our lives but
they'll never take our freedom."
William Wallace

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 13:39 UTC

On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
> On 3/13/2024 4:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>>
>>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
>>> own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
>>> chemicals ...
>>
>> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
>> citric acid.
>>
>
> I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
> "chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !

Oh, I can pronounce all of 'em. At least citric acid is from a
recognizable source. It's produced from fermentation of sugars.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: cshenk - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:53 UTC

Snag wrote:

> On 3/13/2024 4:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
> > > On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
> > > > 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
> > > >
> > > We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow
> > > our own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no
> > > other chemicals ...
> >
> > For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
> > citric acid.
> >
>
> I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
> "chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !

It's pretty much vitamin c right?

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 by: Graham - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:07 UTC

On 2024-03-13 1:53 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>> On 3/13/2024 4:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>>>
>>>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow
>>>> our own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no
>>>> other chemicals ...
>>>
>>> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
>>> citric acid.
>>>
>>
>> I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
>> "chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !
>
> It's pretty much vitamin c right?

No! That's ascorbic acid.

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 by: S Viemeister - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:57 UTC

On 13/03/2024 19:53, cshenk wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>> I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
>> "chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !
>
> It's pretty much vitamin c right?
>
No, that would be ascorbic acid.

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 by: jmcquown - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:21 UTC

On 3/13/2024 3:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Snag wrote:
>
>> On 3/13/2024 4:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>>>
>>>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow
>>>> our own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no
>>>> other chemicals ...
>>>
>>> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
>>> citric acid.
>>>
>>
>> I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
>> "chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !
>
> It's pretty much vitamin c right?

No, it's ascorbic acid.

Jill

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 by: Bruce - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:52 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:21:44 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/13/2024 3:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Snag wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/13/2024 4:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>>>>
>>>>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow
>>>>> our own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no
>>>>> other chemicals ...
>>>>
>>>> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
>>>> citric acid.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think she uses citric acid too . So I guess we do use one
>>> "chemical" . At least I can pronounce it !
>>
>> It's pretty much vitamin c right?
>
>No, it's ascorbic acid.

Why do you always repeat other people? They can't all be in your
killfile. I'd have met them there.

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 by: songbird - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:29 UTC

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>
>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
>> own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
>> chemicals ...
>
> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
> citric acid.

for some tomatoes they are acidic enough. it depends
upon the variety. if you want to add extra it won't
hurt, but may not be needed. sometimes if i'm suspicious
i'll add extra lemon juice or vinegar, but i rarely have
to do that. basically, it's just a know what you're
doing thing and you can test the pH if needed to verify
if you're unsure.

songbird

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:35 UTC

On 2024-03-14, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>>
>>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
>>> own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
>>> chemicals ...
>>
>> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
>> citric acid.
>
> for some tomatoes they are acidic enough. it depends
> upon the variety. if you want to add extra it won't
> hurt, but may not be needed. sometimes if i'm suspicious
> i'll add extra lemon juice or vinegar, but i rarely have
> to do that. basically, it's just a know what you're
> doing thing and you can test the pH if needed to verify
> if you're unsure.

Do you test it? Or do you rely on your gut?

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: songbird - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:04 UTC

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-14, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-13, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2024 8:57 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> 4 Tricks That Make Sad Supermarket Tomatoes Actually Taste Good
>>>>>
>>>> We don't eat TSO's (tomato shaped objects) at our house . We grow our
>>>> own and either freeze or can them . No preservatives , no other
>>>> chemicals ...
>>>
>>> For canning, what do you use to adjust the pH? We always used
>>> citric acid.
>>
>> for some tomatoes they are acidic enough. it depends
>> upon the variety. if you want to add extra it won't
>> hurt, but may not be needed. sometimes if i'm suspicious
>> i'll add extra lemon juice or vinegar, but i rarely have
>> to do that. basically, it's just a know what you're
>> doing thing and you can test the pH if needed to verify
>> if you're unsure.
>
> Do you test it? Or do you rely on your gut?

my tastebuds work. i've been canning tomatoes most of
my life. i can count on one hand the number of quarts that
have gone bad (and it wasn't because of the acidity).

i've used lemon juice once in the past twenty years.
over that time we've done somewhere between 3500-4000
quarts of tomatoes (more if you count salsa and chili
sauce).

we only grow certain varieties of tomatoes and i do
understand the pH and acidity requirements.

songbird

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