Worth reading - quite entertaining.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106

https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d

On 02/04/2024 23:18, Graham wrote:
> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>
I see that one of the people commenting, is unaware the the US fluid
ounce, and the UK fluid ounce, are NOT, in fact, identical...

On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>
> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d

Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?

People fear change. "We always did it this way"

On 2024-04-02, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>
> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d

I read that yesterday.

I wish the U.S. would finish metricating.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
> On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>>
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>
>
> Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
> 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?

11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.

Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
and 0.333 is nugatory.

--
Cindy Hamilton

In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...
>
> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
> > On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
> >> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
> >
> >
> > Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
> > 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>
> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>
> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
> and 0.333 is nugatory.

Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
"nugatory".

Janet UK

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:21:48 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:

>In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
>says...
>>
>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>
>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>
> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
>found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
>"nugatory".

:)

On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 16:18:47 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>
>https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d

I found the answer when we moved to NA was to use our measurements for
UK recipes and 'cups' for theirs. Still have my scales :)

Janet wrote:
> In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
> says...
>>
>> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>> > On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>> >> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>> >>
>> >> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>> >
>> >
>> > Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
>> > 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>>
>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>
>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>
> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
> found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
> "nugatory".

i enjoy learning new words. :)

songbird (nougatory nougat nugget != nugatory

On 4/3/2024 8:49 AM, songbird wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>> In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>> On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
>>>> 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>>>
>>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>>
>>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>>
>> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
>> found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
>> "nugatory".
>
> i enjoy learning new words. :)
>
>
> songbird (nougatory nougat nugget != nugatory

I don't recall ever using it, rarely hearing it. I like it though.

nu·ga·to·ry
/ˈno͞oɡəˌtôrē/
adjective
of no value or importance.
"a nugatory and pointless observation"
Similar:
worthless
of no value
of no importance
unimportant
inconsequential
of no consequence
valueless
trifling
trivial
insignificant
meaningless
useless or futile.

On 2024-04-03, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I wish the U.S. would finish metricating.

But Cindy! People have an inate need to cause schisms.

In my mental prime when I was able to matriculate, we
were all 100% immersed in the use of the metric sysstem.

Yet even in the domain of attempted consensus objective
descriptions of the Universe (i.e. Physics), there is
a schism between 'MKS' (Meter, Kilogram, Second) and
CGS (Centimeter, Gram, Second).

Despite all effort to define prefixes for every third
magnitude (i.e. Kilo, Mega, Giga, &c) we still have
degenerate quantities, i.e. deciliters and centimeters,
supposidly based on more easily imagined measurements
based on human body parts.

Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote at 13:06 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On 4/3/2024 8:49 AM, songbird wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
>>> In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
>>>>> 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>>>>
>>>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>>>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>>>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>>>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>>>
>>> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
>>> found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
>>> "nugatory".
>>
>> i enjoy learning new words. :)
>>
>>
>> songbird (nougatory nougat nugget != nugatory
>
> I don't recall ever using it, rarely hearing it. I like it though.
>
>
> nu·ga·to·ry
> /ˈno͞oɡəˌtôrē/
> adjective
> of no value or importance.
> "a nugatory and pointless observation"
> Similar:
> worthless
> of no value
> of no importance
> unimportant
> inconsequential
> of no consequence
> valueless
> trifling
> trivial
> insignificant
> meaningless
> useless or futile.

Certainly adds a bit of sparkle to a conversation.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On 4/3/2024 10:50 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote at 13:06 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On 4/3/2024 8:49 AM, songbird wrote:
>>> Janet wrote:
>>>> In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
>>>>>> 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>>>>>
>>>>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>>>>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>>>>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>>>>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>>>>
>>>> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
>>>> found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
>>>> "nugatory".
>>>
>>> i enjoy learning new words. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> songbird (nougatory nougat nugget != nugatory
>>
>> I don't recall ever using it, rarely hearing it. I like it though.
>>
>>
>> nu·ga·to·ry
>> /ˈno͞oɡəˌtôrē/
>> adjective
>> of no value or importance.
>> "a nugatory and pointless observation"
>> Similar:
>> worthless
>> of no value
>> of no importance
>> unimportant
>> inconsequential
>> of no consequence
>> valueless
>> trifling
>> trivial
>> insignificant
>> meaningless
>> useless or futile.
>
>
> Certainly adds a bit of sparkle to a conversation.

And Cindy has the intellectual ability to do that.

Ed P wrote:

> On 4/3/2024 10:50 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote at 13:06 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On 4/3/2024 8:49 AM, songbird wrote:
>>>> Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
>>>>>>> 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>>>>>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>>>>>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>>>>>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
>>>>> found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
>>>>> "nugatory".
>>>>
>>>> i enjoy learning new words. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> songbird (nougatory nougat nugget != nugatory
>>>
>>> I don't recall ever using it, rarely hearing it. I like it though.
>>>
>>>
>>> nu·ga·to·ry
>>> /ˈno͞oɡəˌtôrē/
>>> adjective
>>> of no value or importance.
>>> "a nugatory and pointless observation"
>>> Similar:
>>> worthless
>>> of no value
>>> of no importance
>>> unimportant
>>> inconsequential
>>> of no consequence
>>> valueless
>>> trifling
>>> trivial
>>> insignificant
>>> meaningless
>>> useless or futile.
>>
>>
>> Certainly adds a bit of sparkle to a conversation.

> And Cindy has the intellectual ability to do that.

Please, Ed, April Fool's Day was *two* days ago, lol...

--
GM

On 2024-04-03, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
> On 2024-04-03, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> I wish the U.S. would finish metricating.
>
> But Cindy! People have an inate need to cause schisms.
>
> In my mental prime when I was able to matriculate, we
> were all 100% immersed in the use of the metric sysstem.
>
> Yet even in the domain of attempted consensus objective
> descriptions of the Universe (i.e. Physics), there is
> a schism between 'MKS' (Meter, Kilogram, Second) and
> CGS (Centimeter, Gram, Second).
>
> Despite all effort to define prefixes for every third
> magnitude (i.e. Kilo, Mega, Giga, &c) we still have
> degenerate quantities, i.e. deciliters and centimeters,
> supposidly based on more easily imagined measurements
> based on human body parts.

A trifling matter of problem domain. Would you use nanometers
to measure your penis?

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:48:45 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 4/3/2024 10:50 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote at 13:06 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On 4/3/2024 8:49 AM, songbird wrote:
>>>> Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article <660d17eb$0$2363141
>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-04-02, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/2/2024 6:18 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> Worth reading - quite entertaining.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/apr/02/cups-v-grams-why-cant-american-and-british-cooks-agree-on-food-measurements#comment-167106106
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/mrxn9t9d
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why use grams and a scale when we can just accurately measure out 1
>>>>>>> 25/64 cups? And use 11/16 of a stick of butter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 11/16 of a stick of butter isn't so bad. They're usually marked
>>>>>> on the wrapper. Still, most recipes call for 4/16, 8/16, or 12/16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes when I'm dividing recipes and come up with 3/8 cup, I
>>>>>> just use 1/3. Since I don't bake, the difference between 0.375
>>>>>> and 0.333 is nugatory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a precise grasp of mathematics is probably only
>>>>> found in the kind of people whose vocabulary includes
>>>>> "nugatory".
>>>>
>>>> i enjoy learning new words. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> songbird (nougatory nougat nugget != nugatory
>>>
>>> I don't recall ever using it, rarely hearing it. I like it though.
>>>
>>>
>>> nu·ga·to·ry
>>> /ˈno͞oɡəˌtôrē/
>>> adjective
>>> of no value or importance.
>>> "a nugatory and pointless observation"
>>> Similar:
>>> worthless
>>> of no value
>>> of no importance
>>> unimportant
>>> inconsequential
>>> of no consequence
>>> valueless
>>> trifling
>>> trivial
>>> insignificant
>>> meaningless
>>> useless or futile.
>>
>>
>> Certainly adds a bit of sparkle to a conversation.
>
>And Cindy has the intellectual ability to do that.

LOL, Ed!