Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:

Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
newspaper.
"The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
president."
--

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On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>
> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
> newspaper.
>
> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
> president."
> --
>
> Freedom Isn't Free!
>

Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.

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On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
> > Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
> >
> > Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
> > Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
> > understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
> > has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
> > newspaper.
> >
> > "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
> > man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
> > follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
> > good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
> > president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
> > is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
> > not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
> > The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
> > likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
> > president."
> > --
> >
> > Freedom Isn't Free!
> >
> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>
>
>
> --
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com

===

Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>>>
>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
>>> newspaper.
>>>
>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
>>> president."
>>> --
>>>
>>> Freedom Isn't Free!
>>>
>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> https://www.avg.com
>
> ===
>
> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,
> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if
> the Trump worship continues.
>

BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything
Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the
better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did
well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle
East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his
Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed
immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
>>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>>>>
>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
>>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
>>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
>>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
>>>> newspaper.
>>>>
>>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
>>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
>>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
>>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
>>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
>>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
>>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
>>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
>>>> president."
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Freedom Isn't Free!
>>>>
>>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
>>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
>>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> https://www.avg.com
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,
>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if
>> the Trump worship continues.
>>
>
>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything
>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the
>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did
>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle
>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his
>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed
>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.

Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
>> > Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>> >
>> > Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
>> > Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
>> > understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
>> > has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
>> > newspaper.
>> >
>> > "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
>> > man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
>> > follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>> > good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
>> > president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
>> > is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
>> > not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
>> > The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
>> > likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
>> > president."
>> > --
>> >
>> > Freedom Isn't Free!
>> >
>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> https://www.avg.com
>
>===
>
>Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.

Neither party has had a decent candidate for decades. It certainly
wasn't the Bush/Clinton cabal, including the tan one and the people
they put up against them were worse.

On 10/4/2021 9:54 AM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>>>
>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
>>> newspaper.
>>>
>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
>>> president."
>>> --
>>>
>>> Freedom Isn't Free!
>>>
>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> https://www.avg.com
>
> ===
>

> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.
>

I don't disagree with you. The progressive liberal movement has been
brewing for a long time though ... well before Trump. He put a
temporary stop to it but now the progressive left is using *him*
to gain increasing political clout.

gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools s
hould >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he
really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.

Really?
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On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
> > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>
> Really?

==
>So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?

So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?

There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the
>>> USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way
>>> that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the
>>> Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was
>>> translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper.
>>> >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry
>>>>>>>>>>> capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency.
>>>>>>>>>>> It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a
>>>>>>>>>>> Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>> judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America .
>>>>>>>>>>> Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast
>>>>>>>>>>> confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as
>>>>>>>>>>> those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what
>>>>>>>>>>> they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then*
>>>>>>>>>>> people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president
>>>>>>>>>>> if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
>>>>>>>>>>> continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4
>>>>>>>>>>> years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents.
>>>>>>>>>>> Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well.
>>>>>>>>>>> Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East
>>>>>>>>>>> debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than
>>>>>>>>>>> his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress
>>>>>>>>>>> cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>>
>> Really?
>
> ==
>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>
> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
> constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>
> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>

He questioned the election process. Which is very valid. We just had a
recall election for the Governor. Lots of people,complaining that when
they tried to vote, they were told they already voted. Why all the left
pushback to voter ID? They like dead people voting, ala Chicago? And
where did he push an insurrection? His followers demonstrated, but seems
as if ANTIFA, and BLM did the same and worse. Where is their chargers?
As to question of voting outcome, Gore seems to have got a free pass on
hanging chads. Where is the insurrection investigation? What other bad
things did he do as POTUS? Questions about China? Telling Europe to pay
for their defense? Pay their share of the UN?

On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>>
>> Really?
>
> ===
>
>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>

> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>
> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>
I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
in this.
Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> >> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
> >>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
> >>
> >> Really?
> >
> > ===
> >
> >> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
> >
>
>
>
> > So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
> >
> > There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
> >
> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
> in this.
>
> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

==
I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
>>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help
>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a
>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from
>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It
>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
>>>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a
>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
>>>>> Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies
>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>>>> >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a
>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far
>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what
>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not
>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all,
>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of
>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> --
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
>>> constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>>>
>>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
>>> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>>>
>> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>> in this.
>>
>> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>
> ==
> I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
> Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
> transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
> Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral
> errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
> were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
> something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
> deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
> charges may be brought.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
>

And that is insurrection?

Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
>>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
>>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
>>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help
>>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a
>>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from
>>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It
>>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
>>>>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a
>>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
>>>>>> Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies
>>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>>>>>>>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a
>>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far
>>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what
>>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
>>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all,
>>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of
>>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an Ahole. But as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
>>>> constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>>>>
>>>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
>>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
>>>> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>>>>
>>> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>>> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>>> in this.
>>>
>>> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>>
>> ==
>> I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
>> Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
>> transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
>> Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral
>> errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
>> were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
>> something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
>> deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
>> charges may be brought.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
>>
>
> And that is insurrection?
>
>

Oh, yeah. Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or
government.
Questioning the Georgia SOS is now insurrection?

Seems as if more action was done in 2000, and continued long after the
inauguration.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 15:57:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> >> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>> >>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
>have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>>
>>>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>> >>
>> >> Really?
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> >> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> > So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>> >
>> > There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>> >
>> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>> in this.
>>
>> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>
>===
>
>I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger

You are still leaping to an illogical conclusion if you equate
questioning an election result and a violent riot with insurrection.
One quick question. How serious was the insurrection is the most
heavily armed population on the planet went into the capitol, unarmed.
The only person who was shot was shot by the government and she was
unarmed.
You can't say that about the "benign" BLM riots.

On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>>>
>>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>>>
>> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>> in this.
>>
>> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>
> ===
>
> I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
>

It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the
election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to
overthrow the government.

On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 7:41:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
> On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
> >> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
> >>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
> >>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
> >>>>
> >>>> Really?
> >>>
> >>> ===
> >>>
> >>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
> >>>
> >>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
> >>>
> >> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
> >> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
> >> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
> >> in this.
> >>
> >> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
> >> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
> >> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
> >
> It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the
> election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to
> overthrow the government.

==
Agreed, but those are just specific and well documented examples of a carefully orchestrated strategy. The overall intent is quite clear.

"Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. Th
e problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay
their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.>>>> Really?> > ===> >> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?> > So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?> > There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a handin this.Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts, then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)

WAYNE FORGETS ABOUT THE EXTORSION THAT SLOW JOE CARRIED OUT, FOR
THE BENEFIT OF HIS SON, AGAINST THE UKRAINE WHILE THE CAMERAS
WERE ROLLING. WHEN DO YOU SUPPOSE BIDENS TRIAL WILL
BEGIN?
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 12:47:20 -0400 (EDT), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

>"Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier
to
>limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
>president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.>>>> Really?> > ===> >> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?> > So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?> > There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was
>justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a handin this.Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts, then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>
>WAYNE FORGETS ABOUT THE EXTORSION THAT SLOW JOE CARRIED OUT, FOR
> THE BENEFIT OF HIS SON, AGAINST THE UKRAINE WHILE THE CAMERAS
> WERE ROLLING. WHEN DO YOU SUPPOSE BIDENS TRIAL WILL
> BEGIN?

How's the weather in Moscow dickhead?

On Mon, 04 Oct 2021 14:32:03 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT),
>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
>>> > Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>>> >
>>> > Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
>>> > Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
>>> > understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
>>> > has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
>>> > newspaper.
>>> >
>>> > "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
>>> > man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
>>> > follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>> > good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
>>> > president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
>>> > is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
>>> > not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
>>> > The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
>>> > likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
>>> > president."
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Freedom Isn't Free!
>>> >
>>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
>>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
>>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> https://www.avg.com
>>
>>===
>>
>>Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent, middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if the Trump worship continues.
>
>Neither party has had a decent candidate for decades. It certainly
>wasn't the Bush/Clinton cabal, including the tan one and the people
>they put up against them were worse.

Of course, you're just an idiot. So, how would you know?

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote:
>>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head:
>>>>
>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA .
>>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly
>>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there
>>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague
>>>> newspaper.
>>>>
>>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
>>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
>>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
>>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who
>>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
>>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
>>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less
>>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their
>>>> president."
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Freedom Isn't Free!
>>>>
>>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive
>>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by
>>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>> https://www.avg.com
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,
>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if
>> the Trump worship continues.
>>
>
>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything
>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the
>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did
>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle
>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his
>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed
>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.

Spoofer!

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 20:45:54 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the
>>>> USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way
>>>> that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the
>>>> Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was
>>>> translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper.
>>>> >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry
>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America .
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast
>>>>>>>>>>>> confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as
>>>>>>>>>>>> those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what
>>>>>>>>>>>> they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then*
>>>>>>>>>>>> people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president
>>>>>>>>>>>> if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
>>>>>>>>>>>> continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4
>>>>>>>>>>>> years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East
>>>>>>>>>>>> debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than
>>>>>>>>>>>> his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress
>>>>>>>>>>>> cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> ==
>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>>
>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
>> constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>>
>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
>> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>>
>
>He questioned the election process. Which is very valid. We just had a
>recall election for the Governor. Lots of people,complaining that when
>they tried to vote, they were told they already voted. Why all the left
>pushback to voter ID? They like dead people voting, ala Chicago? And
>where did he push an insurrection? His followers demonstrated, but seems
>as if ANTIFA, and BLM did the same and worse. Where is their chargers?
>As to question of voting outcome, Gore seems to have got a free pass on
>hanging chads. Where is the insurrection investigation? What other bad
>things did he do as POTUS? Questions about China? Telling Europe to pay
>for their defense? Pay their share of the UN?

Spoofer and stupid. Can't spell.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 01:04:16 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
>>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
>>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
>>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
>>>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help
>>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a
>>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from
>>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It
>>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
>>>>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a
>>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
>>>>>> Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies
>>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>>>>> >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a
>>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far
>>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what
>>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
>>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all,
>>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of
>>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
>>>> constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>>>>
>>>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
>>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
>>>> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>>>>
>>> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>>> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>>> in this.
>>>
>>> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>>
>> ==
>> I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
>> Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
>> transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
>> Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral
>> errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
>> were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
>> something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
>> deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
>> charges may be brought.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
>>
>
>And that is insurrection?

And, you're a dumbshit.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 01:27:42 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>> waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>>>> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On
>>>>>>> Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On
>>>>>>> 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is
>>>>>>> true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help
>>>>>>> the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a
>>>>>>> way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from
>>>>>>> the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It
>>>>>>> was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>>
>>>>>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a
>>>>>>> citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the
>>>>>>> Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies
>>>>>>> of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
>>>>>>>>>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a
>>>>>>>>>>> man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far
>>>>>>>>>>> more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what
>>>>>>>>>>> ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
>>>>>>>>>>> prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all,
>>>>>>>>>>> merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of
>>>>>>>>>>> fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues.>> >>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an Ahole. But as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our
>>>>> constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He
>>>>> was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't
>>>>> pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>>>>>
>>>> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>>>> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>>>> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>>>> in this.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>>>> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>>>> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>>>
>>> ==
>>> I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does.
>>> Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented
>>> transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad
>>> Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral
>>> errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there
>>> were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for
>>> something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great
>>> deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal
>>> charges may be brought.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
>>>
>>
>> And that is insurrection?
>>
>>
>
>Oh, yeah. Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or
>government.
>Questioning the Georgia SOS is now insurrection?
>
>Seems as if more action was done in 2000, and continued long after the
>inauguration.

Stupid fuck aren't you...

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT), "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com"
<wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 7:41:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> On 10/5/2021 6:57 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 5:09:18 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
>> >> On 10/5/2021 1:29 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
>> >>>> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:r
>> >>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 16:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill<califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:38:21 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>>> On 10/3/2021 6:24 PM, John wrote: >>>> Don't know if the attribution is true, but the quote hits the nail on the head: >>>> >>>> Extraordinarily accurate analysis from a foreign country. God help the USA . >>>> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly >>>> understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there >>>> has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in a Prague >>>> newspaper. >>>> >>>> "The danger to America is not Joe Biden, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a >>>> man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the >>>> follies of a Biden presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and >>>> good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
>have such a man for their >>>> president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Biden, who >>>> is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should >>>> not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. >>>> The Republic can survive a Biden, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less >>>> likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their >>>> president." >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Freedom Isn't Free! >>>> >>> Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see much hope until the progressive >>> left wins, gets what they want, another generation or two passes by >>> and *then* people will wake up and realize what they lost. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com>> >> ===>> >> Biden would not be president if the Republican party had run a decent,>> middle-of-the-road, candidate. I doubt they can win another election if>> the Trump worship continues.>>
>>>BS! The Democrats had a captive press for 4 years, putting down everything>Trump did. In 75 years, I think Trump will be recognized as one of the>better Presidents. Personality wise, he is an Ahole. But as POTUS, he did>well. Told Europeans to pay their own way, got us out of a extended Middle>East debacle. Pointed out China is not our friend. So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President? He addressed>immigration, unfortunately without any Congress cooperation, that was dead.Come on.. that's not even close to reality.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Really?
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>> >>> ===
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>> >>>> So, other than his>Tweets, what did he really do wrong as President?
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> So I guess trying to mount an insurrection and overthrow our constitutional government is OK with you? Really?
>> >>>
>> >>> There are plenty of other things but that is far and away the worst. He was justifiably impeached for it, but his lap dog supporters wouldn't pull the trigger out of fear for Trump's wrath among the true believers.
>> >>>
>> >> I have a little trouble buying into the second impeachment that happened
>> >> only 7 days after the alleged insurrection. There's still an
>> >> investigation going on to determine what part, if any, Trump had a hand
>> >> in this.
>> >>
>> >> Wayne, if you are convinced Trump tried to mount an insurrection and of
>> >> trying to overthrow our government without benefit of all the facts,
>> >> then you are as biased against Trump as Mrs.E. is *for* him. :-)
>> >
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>> > I don't claim to have all the facts; it's doubtful that anyone does. Probably the most damning bit of evidence is the well documented transcript of his conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. Trump repeatedly implores Raffensperger to find electoral errors or "find more votes," even after being repeatedly told that there were no errors. There can be no doubt that Trump is asking for something contrary to established procedure and law. There is a great deal of informed speculation that laws were broken, and that criminal charges may be brought.
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call#January_2_taped_conversation_with_Raffensperger
>> >
>> It's a long stretch from trying to get Raffensperger to look into the
>> election results and to "look" for more votes and inciting a riot to
>> overthrow the government.
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>Agreed, but those are just specific and well documented examples of a carefully orchestrated strategy. The overall intent is quite clear.

Spreading the bullshit again, Wayne? Go back and answer some of the pertinent
questlions in this thread that you conveniently overlooked. Reminds me of
someone else.
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Freedom Isn't Free!