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* What If We Had a Functional Media?Paul Ragna
+* Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Mitchell Holman
|`* Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?pothead
| +* Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Charlie Glock
| |+* Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Trump is right
| ||`- Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Governor Swill
| |`- Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Mitchell Holman
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| |`* Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?max headroom
| | `- Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Charles Carpenter
| `- Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Governor Swill
`- Re: What If We Had a Functional Media?Art Cranston

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 by: Paul Ragna - Tue, 12 Sep 2023 11:05 UTC

Trump would have won.

"What If We Had a Functional Media?"

<https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_had_a_f
unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>

"Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the Washington
Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive and actually
investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text messages, and other
evidence that implicated not just Hunter but his father Joe Biden in
sundry unethical and criminal enterprises? What about CBS, NBC, and ABC?
Shouldn�t we as news consumers expect these leviathans �to give the news
impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of party, sect, or
interests involved,� as the new owner of the New York Times declared way
back in 1896? Yet in October..."

"Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of stories
describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as exposed by the
Hunter Biden laptop, there were few mainstream media outlets that dared
to follow. Or really, not dared, but chose. Because there is nothing
daring about doing your job correctly.

You would think that when all the major social media companies like
Facebook and Twitter blocked any discussion of the New York Post�s
reporting on the laptop, these other major news corporations would have
come to the aid of the Post. If any of them had done their own
investigation of the laptop, do you think that Twitter could have
continued to censor the news under the false claim that it was Russian
disinformation? Hardly. But no mainstream media outlets were willing to
put their own reputations on the line to support free speech � because
their reputations are based entirely on being guardians of the left, and
protecting Hillary, Barack and the Bidens is more important than fidelity
to any chimeric sense of fairness and honor.

And Hunter Biden�s laptop is just a symptom. In instance after instance,
most of the media either closes its eyes to stories that implicate
liberals or Democrats in unethical or illegal behavior, or pretends they
are of no importance. Examples abound, from the whitewashing of Hillary
Clinton�s involvement in the invention of the Russia collusion hoax to
the complete lack of curiosity about the sweetheart deal offered to
Hunter Biden by the so-called independent Justice Department.

It�s no wonder that much of the public at large is convinced there is no
evidence that warrants the impeachment of Joe Biden for bribery or
treason. That�s what happens when you depend on biased news sources to
form your opinion. And what�s worse: These are not just biased news
sources, but ignorant ones. Take, for example, the case of Philip Bump of
the Washington Post.

Bump, a prized columnist and news analyst, was recently embarrassed by
podcast host Noam Dworman, who is best known as the owner of a New York
City comedy club. Bump claimed there was no evidence that President Biden
had done anything improper in regard to his son�s business deals with
foreign adversaries, and when Dworman rattled off some of the most
important evidence suggesting otherwise, Bump took off his headset and
walked away.

The interview ended when Dworman asked Bump: �What do you take from
[Hunter�s] text message to his adult daughter � Hunter texted her, �I had
to give 50% of my income to Pop.�

Bump, the Washington insider who molds public opinion by telling the rest
of us what to think, declared meekly, �I have no idea what that means. I
don�t. I have no idea what that means.�

And let�s be clear. He doesn�t want to know what it means. That�s because
he is not a real journalist; he is a propagandist for Democratic
officials, ideas, and policies. Most importantly, it is when Dworman
challenged Bump to acknowledge what a real journalist would do � ask
questions of Hunter Biden�s daughter to get to the bottom of the story �
that the columnist walked out.

DWORMAN: Has anybody asked her?

BUMP: I don�t know. I don�t know!

DWORMAN: Don�t you think somebody should ask her?

Hell no, because then the mainstream media would be serving the American
public instead of Joe Biden. Perhaps even more nefariously than what it
has done to protect the Bidens, the media has fed the public with a
steady stream of lies about Donald Trump. Most relevant today, as the
former president faces 91 felony counts and four indictments, is the
insistent drumbeat of claims that Trump led an insurrection against the
federal government or that he knowingly lied about election fraud.

Again, just like with the Hunter Biden laptop, the average citizen is
supposed to sheepishly accept the dismissive reporting of the media about
election irregularities as the unadulterated truth, and any deviation
from that narrative is met with silence or scorn.

We have a perfect example of that in the investigative reporting of the
Gateway Pundit last month that revealed extensive election fraud in
Michigan during the 2020 election. If you are scratching your head, and
asking what the heck I�m talking about, then it�s because you have fallen
victim to the media�s refusal to cover any news that reflects positively
on President Trump.

Chances are, you have never even heard of the Gateway Pundit unless you
are a dedicated conservative who has sought out alternative sources of
news that counter the mainstream narrative. Anyone else would probably be
scared away by the public assessments of such left-wing institutions as
Wikipedia, which calls the Gateway Pundit �an American far-right fake
news website�. known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy
theories.�

But if you want to know the facts about a police investigation that
started in October 2020 and found that more than 10,000 mostly fake voter
registrations were submitted to election officials in Muskegon County,
Michigan, you would need to read the Gateway Pundit, or one of the
conservative websites that picked up their stories. Because there is no
way that the New York Times or NBC will ever report on this explosive
story.

And it doesn�t matter whether the Gateway Pundit is a conservative
advocacy website or not. True, the website doesn�t have journalistic
credentials, but who cares? Journalism as an institution is in total
disrepair. No one cares about credentials; we care about credibility.
What matters is the evidence the website�s reporters provide to
substantiate their claims that a pattern of election fraud in Michigan
and other states was discovered prior to the 2020 election and then
covered up after the election. And there is plenty of evidence. Most
importantly, the Gateway Pundit�s reporters obtained the Michigan State
Police report that detailed an extensive preliminary investigation found
credible evidence of a scheme to create fake voters.

In many ways, the oppression of the Muskegon election interference story
parallels the techniques used to oppress the New York Post�s laptop
story. If you do a Google search for �Muskegon voter registration police
report� (without the quotes) you will see an interesting pattern.

First, the blacklisting of Gateway Pundit from the Google results.
Second, the utter silence of the elite media on this hugely significant
story. Third, a number of so-called �fact checks� that downplay the
veracity of the story. The only thing missing is a letter from 51
intelligence agents calling the whole thing a �Russian information
operation.�

The closest we ever got to a mainstream news acknowledgment of the
Gateway Pundit�s reporting was when the Detroit News ran a shocking
admission from Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel�s office that the
facts of the story were accurate and that the election fraud was reported
to the FBI:

Nessel�s press secretary, Danny Wimmer, said the total number of
suspected fraudulent forms delivered to the Muskegon clerk by the
individual was 8,000 to 10,000 ahead of the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential
election.

�The city clerk in Muskegon detected the fraudulent material provided and
alerted the proper authorities,� Wimmer said in a statement. �A thorough
investigation was conducted by multiple agencies within the state and no
successful fraud was perpetrated upon the state�s election process or
qualified voter file.�

In other words, because the 10,000 fake registrations were detected by an
alert election official, there was nothing to worry about. Huh? First of
all, attempted election fraud on that scale should worry us all, but more
importantly, there is no reason to think that all the election fraud was
caught just because one election scammer was caught one time.

The Michigan State Police report on the investigation was extensively
redacted, but on page 14, the authorities failed to redact the name of
GBI Strategies, a Democrat-aligned election-turnout specialist that has
been confirmed as having 2020 operations in multiple states. The office
of GBI Strategies that was searched under a warrant turned up as many as
19 vehicles used by the company�s workers, certainly more than one lone
worker would need. In addition, the woman who tried to submit more than
10,000 fake registrations told state police that she had �done work� in
Detroit, Ypsilanti, Southfield, Flint, and Lansing as well as Muskegon.


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 by: Mitchell Holman - Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:28 UTC

Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Trump would have won.
>
> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>
>
> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_had_a
> _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>
> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the
> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive and
> actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text messages,
> and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but his father Joe
> Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises? What about CBS,
> NBC, and ABC? Shouldn�t we as news consumers expect these leviathans
> �to give the news impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of
> party, sect, or interests involved,� as the new owner of the New York
> Times declared way back in 1896? Yet in October..."
>
> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of stories
> describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as exposed by the
> Hunter Biden laptop,

Stop right there.

WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?

Be specific.

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 by: pothead - Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:29 UTC

On 2023-09-12, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
> Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:XnsB07D48239BD92882000099222@135.181.20.170:
>
>> Trump would have won.
>>
>> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>>
>>
>> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_had_a
>> _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>>
>> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the
>> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive and
>> actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text messages,
>> and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but his father Joe
>> Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises? What about CBS,
>> NBC, and ABC? Shouldn’t we as news consumers expect these leviathans
>> “to give the news impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of
>> party, sect, or interests involved,” as the new owner of the New York
>> Times declared way back in 1896? Yet in October..."
>>
>> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of stories
>> describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as exposed by the
>> Hunter Biden laptop,
>
>
> Stop right there.
>
> WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?
>
> Be specific.
>

Doesn't matter:

'79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election'

<https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-
poll/>

'16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden laptop story was not suppressed
by media, big tech'
<https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-16-of-biden-voters>

--
pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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 by: Charlie Glock - Tue, 12 Sep 2023 17:37 UTC

On 2023-09-12, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-12, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:XnsB07D48239BD92882000099222@135.181.20.170:
>>
>>> Trump would have won.
>>>
>>> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_had_a
>>> _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>>>
>>> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the> A lithium deposit discovered in
a volcanic crater along the
> Nevada-Oregon border may hold up to 40 million metric tons of the rare
> metal — possibly the largest ever in the world, which could have a
> massive impact on the electric vehicle industry, according to a new study.
>
> The deposit hidden within the McDermitt Caldera is estimated to hold
> between 20 million and 40 million metric tons, which would be nearly
> double the current record of about 23 million metric tons found over the
> summer beneath a Bolivian salt flat, researchers reported in Science
> Advances.
>
> It would also greatly boost America’s overall lithium reserves, which
> were previously estimated at a paltry 1 million metric tons.
>
> Belgian geologist Anouk Borst said that if the estimate proves true, the
> sudden overabundance of American lithium — the metal sought after by
> electric vehicle makers — could have global impacts.
> A deposit estimated to hold between 20 million and 40 million metric
> tons of lithium has been discovered at the McDermitt Caldera crater
> along the Nevada-Oregon border.
> A construction worker builds a pipeline for the Lithium Nevada Corp at
> the Thacker Pass deposit. A construction worker builds a pipeline for
> the Lithium Nevada Corp at the Thacker Pass deposit. AP
>
> “It could change the dynamics of lithium globally, in terms of price,
> security of supply and geopolitics,” Borst told Chemistry World. “The US
> would have its own supply of lithium and industries would be less scared
> about supply shortages.”
>
> Electric vehicle makers have bemoaned estimates that “white gold”
> supplies will fall short by 2025, with China, the US and several South
> American countries vying to locate large deposits to meet the increasing
> demand.
>
> Paul A. Jacobson, GM’s chief financial officer, told investors mid-June
> that they “already have that risk” of not getting enough lithium,
> explaining that GM has bought stakes in mining operations.
> While EV makers are looking to bolster America's lithium mines, members
> of American tribes are protesting the upheaval of the land in search of
> white gold. While EV makers are looking to bolster America’s lithium
> mines, members of Native American tribes are protesting the upheaval of
> the land in search of white gold. AP
> America's current lithium preserves stand at only 1 million metric tons.
> America’s current lithium reserves stand at only 1 million metric tons. AP
>
> “We’ve got to have partnerships with people that can get us the lithium
> in the form that we need,” Jacobson said.
>
> The rush to acquire the white gold has also been exacerbated by
> President Biden’s clean energy agenda, which calls for EVs to make up
> about 50% of all cars sold by 2030.
>
> The administration has pushed for investing $7.5 billion in EV charging
> stations around the nation.
> A sign near McDermitt, Nev. calls on no mining for lithium. A sign near
> McDermitt, Nev., calls for no mining of lithium. AP
>
> Thomas Benson, a geologist at Lithium Americas Corporation who co-wrote
> the new study, expects that mining can begin at the McDermitt Caldera by
> 2026.
>
> Researchers from the Lithium Americas Corporation, GNS Science, and
> Oregon State University explained that the unique conditions of the
> McDermitt Caldera’s explosions 16 million years ago created the ideal
> state for lithium-rich particles to form.
>
> Nevada itself has been a hotbed for lithium deposits, but the sites have
> seen opposition, with conservationists, Indigenous Americans and even
> NASA pushing to block mining in the area.
> What do you think? Post a comment.
>
> The McDermitt Caldera mine is located beside the Thacker Pass mine,
> which has seen protests from the native Paiutes tribe and court
> challenges over the last three years.
>
> Meanwhile, NASA voiced its opposition in June to mining the Railroad
> Valley tabletop flat because its undisturbed standing is key to
> calibrating the measurements of hundreds of satellites orbiting the Earth.

>>> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive and
>>> actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text messages,
>>> and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but his father Joe
>>> Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises? What about CBS,
>>> NBC, and ABC? Shouldn’t we as news consumers expect these leviathans
>>> “to give the news impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of
>>> party, sect, or interests involved,” as the new owner of the New York
>>> Times declared way back in 1896? Yet in October..."
>>>
>>> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of stories
>>> describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as exposed by the
>>> Hunter Biden laptop,
>>
>>
>> Stop right there.
>>
>> WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?
>>
>> Be specific.
>>
>
> Doesn't matter:
>
> '79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election'
>
><https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-
> poll/>
>
> '16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden laptop story was not suppressed
> by media, big tech'
><https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-16-of-biden-voters>
>

There are two different issues.
1. Was the election rigged? Machines, counterfeit ballots, corrupt election processes?
2. Did the mainstream media and big tech effectively promote a lie and interfere with the election?

For #1 I have my doubts about this one.
For #2 there is no question the election was interfered with by the mainstream media.

And they are continuing that approach by not reporting truthfully on Joe Biden's condition, poor
decision making and in general a complete lack of ability to perform his duties as President while
at the same time hammering away at Trump.
Keep an eye on what and how the Biden impeachment hearings and Hunter Biden's upcoming indictment
get covered in comparison to Trump's issues.
That will tell all about media bias.
--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

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 by: Mitchell Holman - Tue, 12 Sep 2023 18:02 UTC

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:udpskc$1j7vb$3@dont-email.me:

> On 2023-09-12, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:XnsB07D48239BD92882000099222@135.181.20.170:
>>
>>> Trump would have won.
>>>
>>> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_had
>>> _a _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>>>
>>> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the
>>> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive
>>> and actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text
>>> messages, and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but his
>>> father Joe Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises? What
>>> about CBS, NBC, and ABC? Shouldn’t we as news consumers expect
>>> these leviathans “to give the news impartially, without fear or
>>> favor, regardless of party, sect, or interests involved,” as the
>>> new owner of the New York Times declared way back in 1896? Yet in
>>> October..."
>>>
>>> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of
>>> stories describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as exposed
>>> by the Hunter Biden laptop,
>>
>>
>> Stop right there.
>>
>> WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?
>>
>> Be specific.
>>
>
> Doesn't matter:

YOU claimed "the corrupt nature of the Biden
Family as exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"

Back up your claim.

>
> '79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have
> changed 2020 election'

What coverage of this laptop?

>
> <https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-
> hunter-biden-laptop-coverage- poll/>
>
> '16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden
> laptop story was not suppressed by media, big tech'

Suppressed by WHAT media?

The Trump FBI has had this
laptop since 2019. Why have THEY
"suppressed" all the damning
anti Biden details on it?

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 by: Trump is right - Tue, 12 Sep 2023 19:23 UTC

On 12 Sep 2023, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> posted
some news:ql1MM.5641$2Cyb.3027@fx42.iad:

> On 2023-09-12, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-12, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:XnsB07D48239BD92882000099222@135.181.20.170:
>>>
>>>> Trump would have won.
>>>>
>>>> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_ha
>>>> d_a _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>>>>
>>>> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the> A
>>>> lithium deposit discovered in
> a volcanic crater along the
>> Nevada-Oregon border may hold up to 40 million metric tons of the
>> rare metal — possibly the largest ever in the world, which could
>> have a massive impact on the electric vehicle industry, according to
>> a new study.
>>
>> The deposit hidden within the McDermitt Caldera is estimated to hold
>> between 20 million and 40 million metric tons, which would be nearly
>> double the current record of about 23 million metric tons found over
>> the summer beneath a Bolivian salt flat, researchers reported in
>> Science Advances.
>>
>> It would also greatly boost America’s overall lithium reserves,
>> which were previously estimated at a paltry 1 million metric tons.
>>
>> Belgian geologist Anouk Borst said that if the estimate proves true,
>> the sudden overabundance of American lithium — the metal sought
>> after by electric vehicle makers — could have global impacts.
>> A deposit estimated to hold between 20 million and 40 million metric
>> tons of lithium has been discovered at the McDermitt Caldera crater
>> along the Nevada-Oregon border.
>> A construction worker builds a pipeline for the Lithium Nevada Corp
>> at the Thacker Pass deposit. A construction worker builds a pipeline
>> for the Lithium Nevada Corp at the Thacker Pass deposit. AP
>>
>> “It could change the dynamics of lithium globally, in terms of
>> price, security of supply and geopolitics,” Borst told Chemistry
>> World. “The US would have its own supply of lithium and industries
>> would be less scared about supply shortages.”
>>
>> Electric vehicle makers have bemoaned estimates that “white gold”
>> supplies will fall short by 2025, with China, the US and several
>> South American countries vying to locate large deposits to meet the
>> increasing demand.
>>
>> Paul A. Jacobson, GM’s chief financial officer, told investors
>> mid-June that they “already have that risk” of not getting enough
>> lithium, explaining that GM has bought stakes in mining operations.
>> While EV makers are looking to bolster America's lithium mines,
>> members of American tribes are protesting the upheaval of the land in
>> search of white gold. While EV makers are looking to bolster
>> America’s lithium mines, members of Native American tribes are
>> protesting the upheaval of the land in search of white gold. AP
>> America's current lithium preserves stand at only 1 million metric
>> tons. America’s current lithium reserves stand at only 1 million
>> metric tons. AP
>>
>> “We’ve got to have partnerships with people that can get us the
>> lithium in the form that we need,” Jacobson said.
>>
>> The rush to acquire the white gold has also been exacerbated by
>> President Biden’s clean energy agenda, which calls for EVs to make
>> up about 50% of all cars sold by 2030.
>>
>> The administration has pushed for investing $7.5 billion in EV
>> charging stations around the nation.
>> A sign near McDermitt, Nev. calls on no mining for lithium. A sign
>> near McDermitt, Nev., calls for no mining of lithium. AP
>>
>> Thomas Benson, a geologist at Lithium Americas Corporation who
>> co-wrote the new study, expects that mining can begin at the
>> McDermitt Caldera by 2026.
>>
>> Researchers from the Lithium Americas Corporation, GNS Science, and
>> Oregon State University explained that the unique conditions of the
>> McDermitt Caldera’s explosions 16 million years ago created the
>> ideal state for lithium-rich particles to form.
>>
>> Nevada itself has been a hotbed for lithium deposits, but the sites
>> have seen opposition, with conservationists, Indigenous Americans and
>> even NASA pushing to block mining in the area.
>> What do you think? Post a comment.
>>
>> The McDermitt Caldera mine is located beside the Thacker Pass mine,
>> which has seen protests from the native Paiutes tribe and court
>> challenges over the last three years.
>>
>> Meanwhile, NASA voiced its opposition in June to mining the Railroad
>> Valley tabletop flat because its undisturbed standing is key to
>> calibrating the measurements of hundreds of satellites orbiting the
>> Earth.
>
>
>>>> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive
>>>> and actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text
>>>> messages, and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but
>>>> his father Joe Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises?
>>>> What about CBS, NBC, and ABC? Shouldn’t we as news consumers
>>>> expect these leviathans “to give the news impartially, without
>>>> fear or favor, regardless of party, sect, or interests involved,”
>>>> as the new owner of the New York Times declared way back in 1896?
>>>> Yet in October..."
>>>>
>>>> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of
>>>> stories describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as
>>>> exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop,
>>>
>>>
>>> Stop right there.
>>>
>>> WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?
>>>
>>> Be specific.
>>>
>>
>> Doesn't matter:
>>
>> '79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would
>> have changed 2020 election'
>>
>><https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-
>>hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-
>> poll/>
>>
>> '16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden
>> laptop story was not suppressed by media, big tech'
>><https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-16-of-biden-voters>
>>
>
> There are two different issues.
> 1. Was the election rigged? Machines, counterfeit ballots, corrupt
> election processes? 2. Did the mainstream media and big tech
> effectively promote a lie and interfere with the election?
>
> For #1 I have my doubts about this one.
> For #2 there is no question the election was interfered with by the
> mainstream media.
>
> And they are continuing that approach by not reporting truthfully on
> Joe Biden's condition, poor decision making and in general a complete
> lack of ability to perform his duties as President while at the same
> time hammering away at Trump. Keep an eye on what and how the Biden
> impeachment hearings and Hunter Biden's upcoming indictment get
> covered in comparison to Trump's issues. That will tell all about
> media bias.

"Voter turnout, 2018-2022

The elections of 2018, 2020 and 2022 were three of the highest-turnout
U.S. elections of their respective types in decades. About two-thirds
(66%) of the voting-eligible population turned out for the 2020
presidential election � the highest rate for any national election since
1900. The 2018 election (49% turnout) had the highest rate for a midterm
since 1914. Even the 2022 election�s turnout, with a slightly lower rate
of 46%, exceeded that of all midterm elections since 1970."

In 2022, there were 168.42 million people registered to vote in the United
States. This is a decrease from the previous election, when 168.31 million
people were registered to vote.

The pandemic helped popularize early voting and mail-in ballots. Americans
cast 101,453,111 early votes. That is 64.1 percent of the total votes cast
in 2020. The total number of mail-in ballots was 65,642,049.

In the national popular vote, Biden received 81.2 million votes and Trump
received 74.2 million votes. A total of 155,400,000 votes were reportedly
cast.


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 by: max headroom - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 00:55 UTC

In news:XnsB07D83593739noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.52, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> typed:

> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:udpskc$1j7vb$3@dont-email.me:

>> '79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have
>> changed 2020 election'

> What coverage of this laptop?

Exactly!

>> <https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-
>> hunter-biden-laptop-coverage- poll/>

>> '16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden
>> laptop story was not suppressed by media, big tech'

> Suppressed by WHAT media?

NYTimes, WaPo, ABCNBCPBSCBSCNNMSDNC, the usual gang, plus Facebook, Twitter,
YouTube, &c..

> The Trump FBI ...

Whose FBI? Why do you assume it had any loyalty to Trump?

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 by: Charles Carpenter - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 01:04 UTC

On 9/12/2023 5:55 PM, On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth
waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and
*failed* — to bullshit:

> In news:XnsB07D83593739noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.52, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@verizon.net> typed:
>
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> news:udpskc$1j7vb$3@dont-email.me:
>
>>> '79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have
>>> changed 2020 election'
>
>> What coverage of this laptop?
>
> Exactly!

There was, and is, nothing to cover, o oozing scarlet red maxipad.

>>> <https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-
>>> hunter-biden-laptop-coverage- poll/>
>
>>> '16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden
>>> laptop story was not suppressed by media, big tech'
>
>> Suppressed by WHAT media?
>
> NYTimes, WaPo, ABCNBCPBSCBSCNNMSDNC

No "suppression"

>
>> The Trump FBI ...
>
> Whose FBI? Why do you assume it had any loyalty to Trump?

Ha ha ha! *HA HA HA HA HA HA FUCKING HA*!

You are the *most* loyal of all loyal, ass-licking Trumpswabs, o oozing scarlet
red maxipad.

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 by: Mitchell Holman - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 01:51 UTC

Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote in
news:ql1MM.5641$2Cyb.3027@fx42.iad:

> On 2023-09-12, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-12, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:XnsB07D48239BD92882000099222@135.181.20.170:
>>>
>>>> Trump would have won.
>>>>
>>>> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_ha
>>>> d_a _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>>>>
>>>> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the> A
>>>> lithium deposit discovered in
> a volcanic crater along the
>> Nevada-Oregon border may hold up to 40 million metric tons of the
>> rare metal — possibly the largest ever in the world, which could
>> have a massive impact on the electric vehicle industry, according to
>> a new study.
>>
>> The deposit hidden within the McDermitt Caldera is estimated to hold
>> between 20 million and 40 million metric tons, which would be nearly
>> double the current record of about 23 million metric tons found over
>> the summer beneath a Bolivian salt flat, researchers reported in
>> Science Advances.
>>
>> It would also greatly boost America’s overall lithium reserves,
>> which were previously estimated at a paltry 1 million metric tons.
>>
>> Belgian geologist Anouk Borst said that if the estimate proves true,
>> the sudden overabundance of American lithium — the metal sought
>> after by electric vehicle makers — could have global impacts.
>> A deposit estimated to hold between 20 million and 40 million metric
>> tons of lithium has been discovered at the McDermitt Caldera crater
>> along the Nevada-Oregon border.
>> A construction worker builds a pipeline for the Lithium Nevada Corp
>> at the Thacker Pass deposit. A construction worker builds a pipeline
>> for the Lithium Nevada Corp at the Thacker Pass deposit. AP
>>
>> “It could change the dynamics of lithium globally, in terms of
>> price, security of supply and geopolitics,” Borst told Chemistry
>> World. “The US would have its own supply of lithium and industries
>> would be less scared about supply shortages.”
>>
>> Electric vehicle makers have bemoaned estimates that “white gold”
>> supplies will fall short by 2025, with China, the US and several
>> South American countries vying to locate large deposits to meet the
>> increasing demand.
>>
>> Paul A. Jacobson, GM’s chief financial officer, told investors
>> mid-June that they “already have that risk” of not getting enough
>> lithium, explaining that GM has bought stakes in mining operations.
>> While EV makers are looking to bolster America's lithium mines,
>> members of American tribes are protesting the upheaval of the land in
>> search of white gold. While EV makers are looking to bolster
>> America’s lithium mines, members of Native American tribes are
>> protesting the upheaval of the land in search of white gold. AP
>> America's current lithium preserves stand at only 1 million metric
>> tons. America’s current lithium reserves stand at only 1 million
>> metric tons. AP
>>
>> “We’ve got to have partnerships with people that can get us the
>> lithium in the form that we need,” Jacobson said.
>>
>> The rush to acquire the white gold has also been exacerbated by
>> President Biden’s clean energy agenda, which calls for EVs to make
>> up about 50% of all cars sold by 2030.
>>
>> The administration has pushed for investing $7.5 billion in EV
>> charging stations around the nation.
>> A sign near McDermitt, Nev. calls on no mining for lithium. A sign
>> near McDermitt, Nev., calls for no mining of lithium. AP
>>
>> Thomas Benson, a geologist at Lithium Americas Corporation who
>> co-wrote the new study, expects that mining can begin at the
>> McDermitt Caldera by 2026.
>>
>> Researchers from the Lithium Americas Corporation, GNS Science, and
>> Oregon State University explained that the unique conditions of the
>> McDermitt Caldera’s explosions 16 million years ago created the
>> ideal state for lithium-rich particles to form.
>>
>> Nevada itself has been a hotbed for lithium deposits, but the sites
>> have seen opposition, with conservationists, Indigenous Americans and
>> even NASA pushing to block mining in the area.
>> What do you think? Post a comment.
>>
>> The McDermitt Caldera mine is located beside the Thacker Pass mine,
>> which has seen protests from the native Paiutes tribe and court
>> challenges over the last three years.
>>
>> Meanwhile, NASA voiced its opposition in June to mining the Railroad
>> Valley tabletop flat because its undisturbed standing is key to
>> calibrating the measurements of hundreds of satellites orbiting the
>> Earth.
>
>
>>>> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive
>>>> and actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text
>>>> messages, and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but
>>>> his father Joe Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises?
>>>> What about CBS, NBC, and ABC? Shouldn’t we as news consumers
>>>> expect these leviathans “to give the news impartially, without
>>>> fear or favor, regardless of party, sect, or interests involved,”
>>>> as the new owner of the New York Times declared way back in 1896?
>>>> Yet in October..."
>>>>
>>>> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of
>>>> stories describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as
>>>> exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop,
>>>
>>>
>>> Stop right there.
>>>
>>> WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?
>>>
>>> Be specific.
>>>
>>
>> Doesn't matter:
>>
>> '79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would
>> have changed 2020 election'
>>
>><https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-
>>hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-
>> poll/>
>>
>> '16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden
>> laptop story was not suppressed by media, big tech'
>><https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-16-of-biden-voters>
>>
>
> There are two different issues.
> 1. Was the election rigged? Machines, counterfeit ballots, corrupt
> election processes? 2. Did the mainstream media and big tech
> effectively promote a lie and interfere with the election?
>
> For #1 I have my doubts about this one.
> For #2 there is no question the election was interfered with by the
> mainstream media.

So when Fox News was calling state
after state for Biden they were interfering
or being interfered with?

>
> And they are continuing that approach by not reporting truthfully on
> Joe Biden's condition, poor decision making and in general a complete
> lack of ability to perform his duties as President while at the same
> time hammering away at Trump.

When the public watched the debates -
the ones Trump didn't chicken out of - they
could judge Bidens condition for themselves.

> Keep an eye on what and how the Biden
> impeachment hearings and Hunter Biden's upcoming indictment get
> covered in comparison to Trump's issues. That will tell all about
> media bias.

Biden impeachment hearings won't happen
when Republicans themselves cannot name any
"high crimes or misdemeanors" he committed.

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>Trump would have won.
>
>"What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>
>

If fact checking was banned Trump would have had a better chance but he lost
and now he's going to end his days in a prison cell being buttfucked by a
black guy and beaten by spicks.

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 by: Governor Swill - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 09:29 UTC

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:29:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2023-09-12, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:XnsB07D48239BD92882000099222@135.181.20.170:
>>
>>> Trump would have won.
>>>
>>> "What If We Had a Functional Media?"
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/11/what_if_we_had_a
>>> _f unctional_mainstream_media_149732.html>
>>>
>>> "Could you imagine the difference if, in the fall of 2020, the
>>> Washington Post had accepted a copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive and
>>> actually investigated the thousands of emails, photos, text messages,
>>> and other evidence that implicated not just Hunter but his father Joe
>>> Biden in sundry unethical and criminal enterprises? What about CBS,
>>> NBC, and ABC? Shouldn?t we as news consumers expect these leviathans
>>> ?to give the news impartially, without fear or favor, regardless of
>>> party, sect, or interests involved,? as the new owner of the New York
>>> Times declared way back in 1896? Yet in October..."
>>>
>>> "Yet in October 2020, when the New York Post wrote a series of stories
>>> describing the corrupt nature of the Biden family as exposed by the
>>> Hunter Biden laptop,
>>
>>
>> Stop right there.
>>
>> WHAT was "exposed by the Hunter Biden laptop"?
>>
>> Be specific.
>>
>
>Doesn't matter:

It doesn't matter what was in the laptop? Isn't that the thing that matters *most*?

>'79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election'
>
><https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/>

The NYP did link back to the poll source but the news is bad, dude. Aside from this site
including a link to Daily Caller on the page, there was this:

"In fact, 47 percent said that knowing before the election that the laptop contents were
real and not “disinformation” would have changed their voting decision—including more than
two-thirds (71 percent) of Democrats."

Two thirds of Democrats would have changed their vote? Really? I can't see two thirds of
Democrats voting for Trump under ANY circumstances.

Um, 71% of Democrats but only 47% of total voters? You know, if 71% of Biden's voters had
voted for Trump instead, the vote total would have been in the neighborhood of Biden: 31M,
Trump 125M. And you see that as realistic, do you?

47% of total voters would have been 73M. 71% of Biden voters would have been 58M. Do you
see how this math makes no sense. Somebody just made this poll up.

And here they are:
<https://tippinsights.com/shock-poll-8-in-10-think-biden-laptop-cover-up-changed-election/>

And on their main page, four stories direct from Daily Caller which tells me they're
simply parroting each other to make it look like multiple source information.

>'16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden laptop story was not suppressed
>by media, big tech'
><https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-16-of-biden-voters>

16% of Biden's voters? The other article said 71% of Biden's voters.

Again, the math doesn't add up.

Dead links, failure to link back to the source material, failure to show the actual poll
methodology, OBVIOUSLY faked results, sloppy article. Not surprised this comes from a
lunatic fringe outlet.

Post Millennial and Daily Caller are far to the right and well below the bar for factual
delivery.
https://adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/

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 by: Governor Swill - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:02 UTC

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 19:23:31 -0000 (UTC), Trump is right <trump.is.right@fraud.usa> wrote:

>"Voter turnout, 2018-2022
>
>The elections of 2018, 2020 and 2022 were three of the highest-turnout
>U.S. elections of their respective types in decades. About two-thirds
>(66%) of the voting-eligible population turned out for the 2020
>presidential election – the highest rate for any national election since
>1900. The 2018 election (49% turnout) had the highest rate for a midterm
>since 1914. Even the 2022 election’s turnout, with a slightly lower rate
>of 46%, exceeded that of all midterm elections since 1970."
>
>In 2022, there were 168.42 million people registered to vote in the United
>States. This is a decrease from the previous election, when 168.31 million
>people were registered to vote.
>

<snip>
Fake. A fake article. The first paragraph is word for word from a Pew Research article.
<https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/>
The rest of this I couldn't find. I checked half a dozen different phrases in Google and
didn't find the rest of this fake.

>Somehow I just don't see 92% US voter participation or Biden with a record
>number of votes. What I did see was elections extended long past poll
>closings because of a phony virus "pandemic" in violation of state laws
>and constitutions.

Was not phony. You know this. It was highly contagious, deadly, and an unknown. I know
several people who caught Covid and some who have died.

States changed their election laws to reflect the reduced traffic as folks stayed home.
All of these laws, when challenged in courts, were found Constitutional by their State
courts.

>Had polls closed on the day the elections ended and not continued for
>weeks afterwards, the results would be different.
>
>[About two-thirds (66%) of the voting-eligible population turned out for
>the 2020 presidential election – the highest rate for any national
>election since 1900.]
>
>If 66% voted, how did the numbers work out to 92%? Where did 44,242,800
>votes come from?
>
>Odd that the media didn't point out that statistical anomaly.

Shame. If only you'd posted the link you got that from, we could all go look. Any
asshole can post an article and then fictionalize a small bit or a lot to stir the pot or
suit the agenda.

Like *you* just did.

<https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/>

See, only the first paragraph comes from Pew.

What does Wikipedia have?

Wikipedia gives 66.9% for VEP (voting-eligible population) with a turnout figure of
159,690,457 against 239,247,182 total VEPs.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections>

Not sure what statistic that 92% is referencing but the other numbers appear ok.

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