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Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election

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by: Bradley K. Sherman - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 12:31 UTC

| ...
| During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
| a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
| president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
| Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
| Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
|
| Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
| the document in question stated that full control of
| Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
| January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
| Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
| Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
| Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
| ...
<https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lost-election-legal-analyst-1840116>

--bks

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by: David Hartung - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 15:19 UTC

On 11/3/23 07:31, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> | ...
> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
> |
> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
> | the document in question stated that full control of
> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
> | ...
> <https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lost-election-legal-analyst-1840116>

All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.

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by: Bradley K. Sherman - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 15:20 UTC

David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
> ...
>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>> |
>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>> | ...
> ...
>All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.

Which is different from what Trump was saying in public. Case closed.

--bks

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by: David Hartung - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 15:24 UTC

On 11/3/23 10:20, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>>> |
>>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>>> | ...
>> ...
>> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.
>
> Which is different from what Trump was saying in public. Case closed.

All of which has nothing to do with any criminal trial.

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by: Bradley K. Sherman - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 15:32 UTC

David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>On 11/3/23 10:20, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>>>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>>>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>>>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>>>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>>>> |
>>>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>>>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>>>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>>>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>>>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>>>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>>>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>>>> | ...
>>> ...
>>> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.
>>
>> Which is different from what Trump was saying in public. Case closed.
>
>All of which has nothing to do with any criminal trial.

What part of "mens rea" do you not understand?

--bks

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by: Siri Cruise - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 16:06 UTC

David Hartung wrote:
> On 11/3/23 07:31, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> | ...
>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>> |
>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lost-election-legal-analyst-1840116>
>>
>
> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral
> vote.
>

What was the electoral vote he accepted?

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by: Siri Cruise - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 16:16 UTC

David Hartung wrote:

> All of which has nothing to do with any criminal trial.

Junior wasn't at a criminal trial. He was explaining who had
control of what when.

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by: Max Boot - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 17:06 UTC

On 11/3/2023 8:19 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 11/3/23 07:31, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> | ...
>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>> |
>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lost-election-legal-analyst-1840116>
>
> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.
>

It shows that he knew he lost.

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by: Max Boot - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 17:07 UTC

On 11/3/2023 8:24 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 11/3/23 10:20, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>    | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>>>>    | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>>>>    | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>>>>    | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>>>>    | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>>>>    |
>>>>    | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>>>>    | the document in question stated that full control of
>>>>    | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>>>>    | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>>>>    | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>>>>    | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>>>>    | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>>>>    | ...
>>> ...
>>> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.
>>
>> Which is different from what Trump was saying in public. Case closed.
>
> All of which has nothing to do with any criminal trial.

/non sequitur/

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by: Mitchell Holman - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 02:01 UTC

David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
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> On 11/3/23 07:31, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> | ...
>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>> |
>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lo
>> st-election-legal-analyst-1840116>
>
> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.
>

Then why did he approve the
"fake electors" fraud he has
been indicted for?

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by: super70s - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 06:13 UTC

On 2023-11-03 16:16:34 +0000, Siri Cruise said:

> David Hartung wrote:
>
>> All of which has nothing to do with any criminal trial.
>
> Junior wasn't at a criminal trial. He was explaining who had control of
> what when.

Big Daddy being a crook and proud of it never really lost control of
that trust the entire time.

We've devolved a long way from the days when Jimmy Carter felt obliged
to voluntarily sell his interest in a peanut farming business.

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by: NoBody - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 14:42 UTC

On 3 Nov 2023 12:31:27 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:

> | ...
> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
> |
> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
> | the document in question stated that full control of
> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
> | ...
><https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lost-election-legal-analyst-1840116>
>
> --bks

Another Bradley post that fails to deminstrate his claim.

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by: NoBody - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 14:43 UTC

On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 10:24:09 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
wrote:

>On 11/3/23 10:20, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>>>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>>>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>>>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>>>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>>>> |
>>>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>>>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>>>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>>>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>>>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>>>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>>>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>>>> | ...
>>> ...
>>> All this proves is that Trump had chosen to accept the electoral vote.
>>
>> Which is different from what Trump was saying in public. Case closed.
>
>All of which has nothing to do with any criminal trial.

Bradley is a paid shill for the Russians. Don't give him once shred
of credibility.

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by: Pipewrench Peterson - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 17:57 UTC

On 11/4/2023 7:42 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On 3 Nov 2023 12:31:27 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
> wrote:
>
>> | ...
>> | During Trump Jr.'s cross-examination, prosecutors presented
>> | a document dated January 15, 2021, that showed the former
>> | president reinstating himself as trustee of the Donald J.
>> | Trump Revocable Trust, according to a report from Adam
>> | Klasfeld, correspondent for The Messenger.
>> |
>> | Alex Woodward, senior reporter for the Independent, said
>> | the document in question stated that full control of
>> | Trump's trust would be returned to the former president on
>> | January 20, 2021, the day that he left the White House.
>> | Trump had forgone his trustee position to Trump Jr. and
>> | Allen Weisselberg, former chief financial officer of The
>> | Trump Organization, prior to taking office in January 2017.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trial-document-may-prove-he-knew-he-lost-election-legal-analyst-1840116>
>>
>> --bks
>
> Another Bradley post that fails to deminstrate his claim.

Wrong.

Subject	Author
Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Bradley K. Sherman
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	David Hartung
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Bradley K. Sherman
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	David Hartung
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Bradley K. Sherman
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Siri Cruise
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	super70s
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Max Boot
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	NoBody
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Siri Cruise
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Max Boot
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Mitchell Holman
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	NoBody
Re: Proof That Trump Knew He Lost Election	Pipewrench Peterson