Washington: Ambassador Anatoly Antonov stated after being called to the
State Department in Washington that Moscow views the American drone crash
on Tuesday in the Black Sea as a provocation.

Karen Donfried, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian
Affairs, protested the "unsafe and unprofessional intercept" of the drone
that led to its loss during their meeting with Antonov.

Following the meeting, Antonov told reporters, "We view this incident as a
provocation. According to what he claimed he said to Donfried, US drones,
planes, and ships had no business being that close to Russian borders.

He questioned, "Could you imagine what the US media or the Pentagon would
say if such a drone were to appear near New York or San Francisco.

The discussions were "constructive," according to Antonov, who added that
both parties expressed their concerns. Given the circumstances in Eastern
Europe at the moment, he continued, the US and Russia must exercise
"extreme caution" in their actions. Donfried was also informed by him that
Moscow seeks "pragmatic relations" rather than hostilities with the US.

The MQ-9 Reaper crashed on Tuesday morning after two Russian Su-27
interceptors, according to the US military, flew dangerously close to it.
The Su-27s spilled fuel on the drone and at one point damaged its
propeller, which led to the crash. In international waters, the drone,
according to them, was conducting a lawful surveillance mission.

The Russian Defense Ministry responded by claiming that the UAV stalled
following extreme manoeuvres and that the interceptors "did not come in
contact with the UAV."

The drone was of the kind that can carry numerous missiles and bombs,
Antonov had noted. A "hunter-killer" version of the MQ-1 Predator was
created as the MQ-9.

While maintaining that it is not a party to the conflict, the US has been
operating drones and surveillance aircraft close to the Russian border for
more than a year, giving the Ukrainian government money, weapons, and
ammunition in addition to intelligence and targeting information.

Neither government provided the precise location of the incident.
According to Russian media, the Reaper's last known location was about 60
kilometres southwest of Sevastopol, a port in the Crimea.

https://english.newstracklive.com/news/us-ambassador-says-there-is-no-place-for-us-drones-near-russia-sc57-nu355-ta355-1270674-1.html

### - them 'bumping' it out of the sky like that is defo a lesser thing
than shooting it down.

so was quite deliberately done then really + sends the US a clear
message... and coz summat 'as-big' as that just hangin' around anywhere
near the borders with russia could potentially be very dangerous indeed!
(could use one to suddenly sneak-nuke moscow from a great height, for
example!)

having made the point they'll prolly shoot down the next one though...

and/or anything else they consider constitutes a potential threat!

('accidents' is what we gots to watch-out for now huh...)

Oh yes sir, mister Ambassador, we'll stop our Reaper drone flights &
stop our B52 flights & our B1 flights & our AWACS flights right now,
yessiree bob!

Your word is our command.

Lol

Stop it Brian, we can read the news don't need you to vomit it back up
all the time. You're wasting your time.

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:22:36 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

>Washington: Ambassador Anatoly Antonov stated after being called to the
>State Department in Washington that Moscow views the American drone crash
>on Tuesday in the Black Sea as a provocation.
>
>Karen Donfried, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian
>Affairs, protested the "unsafe and unprofessional intercept" of the drone
>that led to its loss during their meeting with Antonov.
>
>Following the meeting, Antonov told reporters, "We view this incident as a
>provocation. According to what he claimed he said to Donfried, US drones,
>planes, and ships had no business being that close to Russian borders.
>
>He questioned, "Could you imagine what the US media or the Pentagon would
>say if such a drone were to appear near New York or San Francisco.
>
>The discussions were "constructive," according to Antonov, who added that
>both parties expressed their concerns. Given the circumstances in Eastern
>Europe at the moment, he continued, the US and Russia must exercise
>"extreme caution" in their actions. Donfried was also informed by him that
>Moscow seeks "pragmatic relations" rather than hostilities with the US.
>
>The MQ-9 Reaper crashed on Tuesday morning after two Russian Su-27
>interceptors, according to the US military, flew dangerously close to it.
>The Su-27s spilled fuel on the drone and at one point damaged its
>propeller, which led to the crash. In international waters, the drone,
>according to them, was conducting a lawful surveillance mission.
>
>The Russian Defense Ministry responded by claiming that the UAV stalled
>following extreme manoeuvres and that the interceptors "did not come in
>contact with the UAV."
>
>The drone was of the kind that can carry numerous missiles and bombs,
>Antonov had noted. A "hunter-killer" version of the MQ-1 Predator was
>created as the MQ-9.
>
>While maintaining that it is not a party to the conflict, the US has been
>operating drones and surveillance aircraft close to the Russian border for
>more than a year, giving the Ukrainian government money, weapons, and
>ammunition in addition to intelligence and targeting information.
>
>Neither government provided the precise location of the incident.
>According to Russian media, the Reaper's last known location was about 60
>kilometres southwest of Sevastopol, a port in the Crimea.
>
>https://english.newstracklive.com/news/us-ambassador-says-there-is-no-place-for-us-drones-near-russia-sc57-nu355-ta355-1270674-1.html
>
>### - them 'bumping' it out of the sky like that is defo a lesser thing
>than shooting it down.
>
>so was quite deliberately done then really + sends the US a clear
>message... and coz summat 'as-big' as that just hangin' around anywhere
>near the borders with russia could potentially be very dangerous indeed!
>(could use one to suddenly sneak-nuke moscow from a great height, for
>example!)
>
>having made the point they'll prolly shoot down the next one though...
>
>and/or anything else they consider constitutes a potential threat!
>
>('accidents' is what we gots to watch-out for now huh...)

### - it's like a chess end-game that's getting pretty tight now: every
little move disproportionately threatening the whole board! so there's
more than just the obvious going on in that report 'and' in my comments
thang :)

typically you always miss 'that' part though in total favour of your own
bigoted hatred, anger & blindness, and when what you (or anyone) NEEDS to
do in order to understand is to step back some and see the WHOLE issue
instead of only ever partially, and as such only ever from one fucked up
biased pov or the other (i.e., from humanity's pov as a whole, not just
from ukraine or russia's pov) something which otherwise tells you nada
other than what you 'want' to hear every time duh...

i.e., only unintelligent arseholes FAIL to remain objective thang heh, and
lol you haven't got an objective bone in your body!? (i doubt you even
fully realise the 'meaning' of the term!)

this explaining precisely WHY you're such an out & out: WAR-MONGER!!!

e.g., you effectively stated before: "bring-on WW3: it'll be WORTH IT to
get RID of the russians???" (sic)

LOL that's SICK indeed!!! :D :D :D

i rest my case: you're not a well man :)))

***

Ps. if you really hate the russians sooo much, then why don't you just go
to ukraine and fight them? am sure they'd welcome you there, give you a
machine gun and show you how to fire it before shipping you straight out
to the front line huh; there's many with your convictions doing so!

and coz with a bit of luck you'd get your head blown-off in the first 5
minutes hah...

BANG!

"hey i just felt the world get lighter! put on the Hammer records! am
ready to dance!"

--bill hicks haha ;)

(go back to sleep thang, you have absolutely nooo idea of what's actually
happening in the world sport, not even a little bit, so why pretend...)

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:16:41 -0000, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

> Oh yes sir, mister Ambassador, we'll stop our Reaper drone flights &
> stop our B52 flights & our B1 flights & our AWACS flights right now,
> yessiree bob!
>
> Your word is our command.
>
> Lol
>
>
> Stop it Brian, we can read the news don't need you to vomit it back up
> all the time. You're wasting your time.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:22:36 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Washington: Ambassador Anatoly Antonov stated after being called to the
>> State Department in Washington that Moscow views the American drone
>> crash
>> on Tuesday in the Black Sea as a provocation.
>>
>> Karen Donfried, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and
>> Eurasian
>> Affairs, protested the "unsafe and unprofessional intercept" of the
>> drone
>> that led to its loss during their meeting with Antonov.
>>
>> Following the meeting, Antonov told reporters, "We view this incident
>> as a
>> provocation. According to what he claimed he said to Donfried, US
>> drones,
>> planes, and ships had no business being that close to Russian borders.
>>
>> He questioned, "Could you imagine what the US media or the Pentagon
>> would
>> say if such a drone were to appear near New York or San Francisco.
>>
>> The discussions were "constructive," according to Antonov, who added
>> that
>> both parties expressed their concerns. Given the circumstances in
>> Eastern
>> Europe at the moment, he continued, the US and Russia must exercise
>> "extreme caution" in their actions. Donfried was also informed by him
>> that
>> Moscow seeks "pragmatic relations" rather than hostilities with the US.
>>
>> The MQ-9 Reaper crashed on Tuesday morning after two Russian Su-27
>> interceptors, according to the US military, flew dangerously close to
>> it.
>> The Su-27s spilled fuel on the drone and at one point damaged its
>> propeller, which led to the crash. In international waters, the drone,
>> according to them, was conducting a lawful surveillance mission.
>>
>> The Russian Defense Ministry responded by claiming that the UAV stalled
>> following extreme manoeuvres and that the interceptors "did not come in
>> contact with the UAV."
>>
>> The drone was of the kind that can carry numerous missiles and bombs,
>> Antonov had noted. A "hunter-killer" version of the MQ-1 Predator was
>> created as the MQ-9.
>>
>> While maintaining that it is not a party to the conflict, the US has
>> been
>> operating drones and surveillance aircraft close to the Russian border
>> for
>> more than a year, giving the Ukrainian government money, weapons, and
>> ammunition in addition to intelligence and targeting information.
>>
>> Neither government provided the precise location of the incident.
>> According to Russian media, the Reaper's last known location was about
>> 60
>> kilometres southwest of Sevastopol, a port in the Crimea.
>>
>> https://english.newstracklive.com/news/us-ambassador-says-there-is-no-place-for-us-drones-near-russia-sc57-nu355-ta355-1270674-1.html
>>
>> ### - them 'bumping' it out of the sky like that is defo a lesser thing
>> than shooting it down.
>>
>> so was quite deliberately done then really + sends the US a clear
>> message... and coz summat 'as-big' as that just hangin' around anywhere
>> near the borders with russia could potentially be very dangerous indeed!
>> (could use one to suddenly sneak-nuke moscow from a great height, for
>> example!)
>>
>> having made the point they'll prolly shoot down the next one though...
>>
>> and/or anything else they consider constitutes a potential threat!
>>
>> ('accidents' is what we gots to watch-out for now huh...)

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Looks like I hit a raw nerve, yes?
:)

On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:16:26 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

>### - it's like a chess end-game that's getting pretty tight now: every
>little move disproportionately threatening the whole board! so there's
>more than just the obvious going on in that report 'and' in my comments
>thang :)
>
>typically you always miss 'that' part though in total favour of your own
>bigoted hatred, anger & blindness, and when what you (or anyone) NEEDS to
>do in order to understand is to step back some and see the WHOLE issue
>instead of only ever partially, and as such only ever from one fucked up
>biased pov or the other (i.e., from humanity's pov as a whole, not just
> from ukraine or russia's pov) something which otherwise tells you nada
>other than what you 'want' to hear every time duh...
>
>i.e., only unintelligent arseholes FAIL to remain objective thang heh, and
>lol you haven't got an objective bone in your body!? (i doubt you even
>fully realise the 'meaning' of the term!)
>
>this explaining precisely WHY you're such an out & out: WAR-MONGER!!!
>
>e.g., you effectively stated before: "bring-on WW3: it'll be WORTH IT to
>get RID of the russians???" (sic)
>
>LOL that's SICK indeed!!! :D :D :D
>
>i rest my case: you're not a well man :)))
>
>***
>
>Ps. if you really hate the russians sooo much, then why don't you just go
>to ukraine and fight them? am sure they'd welcome you there, give you a
>machine gun and show you how to fire it before shipping you straight out
>to the front line huh; there's many with your convictions doing so!
>
>and coz with a bit of luck you'd get your head blown-off in the first 5
>minutes hah...
>
>BANG!
>
>"hey i just felt the world get lighter! put on the Hammer records! am
>ready to dance!"
>
>--bill hicks haha ;)
>
>(go back to sleep thang, you have absolutely nooo idea of what's actually
>happening in the world sport, not even a little bit, so why pretend...)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:16:41 -0000, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Oh yes sir, mister Ambassador, we'll stop our Reaper drone flights &
>> stop our B52 flights & our B1 flights & our AWACS flights right now,
>> yessiree bob!
>>
>> Your word is our command.
>>
>> Lol
>>
>>
>> Stop it Brian, we can read the news don't need you to vomit it back up
>> all the time. You're wasting your time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:22:36 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Washington: Ambassador Anatoly Antonov stated after being called to the
>>> State Department in Washington that Moscow views the American drone
>>> crash
>>> on Tuesday in the Black Sea as a provocation.
>>>
>>> Karen Donfried, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and
>>> Eurasian
>>> Affairs, protested the "unsafe and unprofessional intercept" of the
>>> drone
>>> that led to its loss during their meeting with Antonov.
>>>
>>> Following the meeting, Antonov told reporters, "We view this incident
>>> as a
>>> provocation. According to what he claimed he said to Donfried, US
>>> drones,
>>> planes, and ships had no business being that close to Russian borders.
>>>
>>> He questioned, "Could you imagine what the US media or the Pentagon
>>> would
>>> say if such a drone were to appear near New York or San Francisco.
>>>
>>> The discussions were "constructive," according to Antonov, who added
>>> that
>>> both parties expressed their concerns. Given the circumstances in
>>> Eastern
>>> Europe at the moment, he continued, the US and Russia must exercise
>>> "extreme caution" in their actions. Donfried was also informed by him
>>> that
>>> Moscow seeks "pragmatic relations" rather than hostilities with the US.
>>>
>>> The MQ-9 Reaper crashed on Tuesday morning after two Russian Su-27
>>> interceptors, according to the US military, flew dangerously close to
>>> it.
>>> The Su-27s spilled fuel on the drone and at one point damaged its
>>> propeller, which led to the crash. In international waters, the drone,
>>> according to them, was conducting a lawful surveillance mission.
>>>
>>> The Russian Defense Ministry responded by claiming that the UAV stalled
>>> following extreme manoeuvres and that the interceptors "did not come in
>>> contact with the UAV."
>>>
>>> The drone was of the kind that can carry numerous missiles and bombs,
>>> Antonov had noted. A "hunter-killer" version of the MQ-1 Predator was
>>> created as the MQ-9.
>>>
>>> While maintaining that it is not a party to the conflict, the US has
>>> been
>>> operating drones and surveillance aircraft close to the Russian border
>>> for
>>> more than a year, giving the Ukrainian government money, weapons, and
>>> ammunition in addition to intelligence and targeting information.
>>>
>>> Neither government provided the precise location of the incident.
>>> According to Russian media, the Reaper's last known location was about
>>> 60
>>> kilometres southwest of Sevastopol, a port in the Crimea.
>>>
>>> https://english.newstracklive.com/news/us-ambassador-says-there-is-no-place-for-us-drones-near-russia-sc57-nu355-ta355-1270674-1.html
>>>
>>> ### - them 'bumping' it out of the sky like that is defo a lesser thing
>>> than shooting it down.
>>>
>>> so was quite deliberately done then really + sends the US a clear
>>> message... and coz summat 'as-big' as that just hangin' around anywhere
>>> near the borders with russia could potentially be very dangerous indeed!
>>> (could use one to suddenly sneak-nuke moscow from a great height, for
>>> example!)
>>>
>>> having made the point they'll prolly shoot down the next one though...
>>>
>>> and/or anything else they consider constitutes a potential threat!
>>>
>>> ('accidents' is what we gots to watch-out for now huh...)

### - you're the war-mongering sicko-racist who stated:

"bring-on ww3! it'll be WORTH it to get rid of the russians"??? (Sic.)

i.e., you're the one who has to live THAT shit down & wear it, not moi...

wear it right next to the nazi war medals you've admittedly collected

coz yes, that shit does indeed hit a raw nerve with most people :)))

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 11:25:38 -0000, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

> Looks like I hit a raw nerve, yes?
> :)
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:16:26 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ### - it's like a chess end-game that's getting pretty tight now: every
>> little move disproportionately threatening the whole board! so there's
>> more than just the obvious going on in that report 'and' in my comments
>> thang :)
>>
>> typically you always miss 'that' part though in total favour of your own
>> bigoted hatred, anger & blindness, and when what you (or anyone) NEEDS
>> to
>> do in order to understand is to step back some and see the WHOLE issue
>> instead of only ever partially, and as such only ever from one fucked up
>> biased pov or the other (i.e., from humanity's pov as a whole, not just
>> from ukraine or russia's pov) something which otherwise tells you nada
>> other than what you 'want' to hear every time duh...
>>
>> i.e., only unintelligent arseholes FAIL to remain objective thang heh,
>> and
>> lol you haven't got an objective bone in your body!? (i doubt you even
>> fully realise the 'meaning' of the term!)
>>
>> this explaining precisely WHY you're such an out & out: WAR-MONGER!!!
>>
>> e.g., you effectively stated before: "bring-on WW3: it'll be WORTH IT to
>> get RID of the russians???" (sic)
>>
>> LOL that's SICK indeed!!! :D :D :D
>>
>> i rest my case: you're not a well man :)))
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Ps. if you really hate the russians sooo much, then why don't you just
>> go
>> to ukraine and fight them? am sure they'd welcome you there, give you a
>> machine gun and show you how to fire it before shipping you straight out
>> to the front line huh; there's many with your convictions doing so!
>>
>> and coz with a bit of luck you'd get your head blown-off in the first 5
>> minutes hah...
>>
>> BANG!
>>
>> "hey i just felt the world get lighter! put on the Hammer records! am
>> ready to dance!"
>>
>> --bill hicks haha ;)
>>
>> (go back to sleep thang, you have absolutely nooo idea of what's
>> actually
>> happening in the world sport, not even a little bit, so why pretend...)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:16:41 -0000, o'Mahoney
>> <libertidad@south.south.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yes sir, mister Ambassador, we'll stop our Reaper drone flights &
>>> stop our B52 flights & our B1 flights & our AWACS flights right now,
>>> yessiree bob!
>>>
>>> Your word is our command.
>>>
>>> Lol
>>>
>>>
>>> Stop it Brian, we can read the news don't need you to vomit it back up
>>> all the time. You're wasting your time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:22:36 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Washington: Ambassador Anatoly Antonov stated after being called to
>>>> the
>>>> State Department in Washington that Moscow views the American drone
>>>> crash
>>>> on Tuesday in the Black Sea as a provocation.
>>>>
>>>> Karen Donfried, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and
>>>> Eurasian
>>>> Affairs, protested the "unsafe and unprofessional intercept" of the
>>>> drone
>>>> that led to its loss during their meeting with Antonov.
>>>>
>>>> Following the meeting, Antonov told reporters, "We view this incident
>>>> as a
>>>> provocation. According to what he claimed he said to Donfried, US
>>>> drones,
>>>> planes, and ships had no business being that close to Russian borders.
>>>>
>>>> He questioned, "Could you imagine what the US media or the Pentagon
>>>> would
>>>> say if such a drone were to appear near New York or San Francisco.
>>>>
>>>> The discussions were "constructive," according to Antonov, who added
>>>> that
>>>> both parties expressed their concerns. Given the circumstances in
>>>> Eastern
>>>> Europe at the moment, he continued, the US and Russia must exercise
>>>> "extreme caution" in their actions. Donfried was also informed by him
>>>> that
>>>> Moscow seeks "pragmatic relations" rather than hostilities with the
>>>> US.
>>>>
>>>> The MQ-9 Reaper crashed on Tuesday morning after two Russian Su-27
>>>> interceptors, according to the US military, flew dangerously close to
>>>> it.
>>>> The Su-27s spilled fuel on the drone and at one point damaged its
>>>> propeller, which led to the crash. In international waters, the drone,
>>>> according to them, was conducting a lawful surveillance mission.
>>>>
>>>> The Russian Defense Ministry responded by claiming that the UAV
>>>> stalled
>>>> following extreme manoeuvres and that the interceptors "did not come
>>>> in
>>>> contact with the UAV."
>>>>
>>>> The drone was of the kind that can carry numerous missiles and bombs,
>>>> Antonov had noted. A "hunter-killer" version of the MQ-1 Predator was
>>>> created as the MQ-9.
>>>>
>>>> While maintaining that it is not a party to the conflict, the US has
>>>> been
>>>> operating drones and surveillance aircraft close to the Russian border
>>>> for
>>>> more than a year, giving the Ukrainian government money, weapons, and
>>>> ammunition in addition to intelligence and targeting information.
>>>>
>>>> Neither government provided the precise location of the incident.
>>>> According to Russian media, the Reaper's last known location was about
>>>> 60
>>>> kilometres southwest of Sevastopol, a port in the Crimea.
>>>>
>>>> https://english.newstracklive.com/news/us-ambassador-says-there-is-no-place-for-us-drones-near-russia-sc57-nu355-ta355-1270674-1.html
>>>>
>>>> ### - them 'bumping' it out of the sky like that is defo a lesser
>>>> thing
>>>> than shooting it down.
>>>>
>>>> so was quite deliberately done then really + sends the US a clear
>>>> message... and coz summat 'as-big' as that just hangin' around
>>>> anywhere
>>>> near the borders with russia could potentially be very dangerous
>>>> indeed!
>>>> (could use one to suddenly sneak-nuke moscow from a great height, for
>>>> example!)
>>>>
>>>> having made the point they'll prolly shoot down the next one though...
>>>>
>>>> and/or anything else they consider constitutes a potential threat!
>>>>
>>>> ('accidents' is what we gots to watch-out for now huh...)

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