Nato has condemned Russia's "dangerous" and "irresponsible" rhetoric after
Vladimir Putin's decision to station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.

The organisation is "closely monitoring" the situation and said the move
would not lead it to change its own nuclear strategy.

Belarus shares a long border with Ukraine, as well as with Nato members
Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65081575

Ukraine has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to
address the potential threat of President Putin's announcement on Saturday.

President Putin said Moscow would not be transferring control of its arms
to Minsk and that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko - a firm ally of
the Kremlin and supporter of its invasion of Ukraine - had long raised the
issue with him.

Ukraine says the move violates nuclear non-proliferation agreements - an
accusation President Putin has denied, instead comparing it to the US
stationing its weapons in Europe.

But Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine's ministry of defence, told the BBC
that Ukraine was used to nuclear threats from Russia, adding that the
deployment in Belarus would not change the outcome of the war.

Mr Sak said there was nothing new in Russia's behaviour, as it had been
stationing military equipment in Belarus since the start of the war in
2022.

Mykhailo Podolyak, another senior adviser to President Zelensky,
characterised the move as "scare tactics" and said the Russian leader was
"too predictable".

Analysts at the US think tank Institute for War said the risk of
escalation to nuclear war following the announcement remained "extremely
low".

A small number of Iskander tactical missile systems, which can be used to
launch nuclear weapons, have already been transferred to Belarus,
President Putin said in his address on Saturday.

This will be the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have
based nuclear arms outside the country.

Russia will start training crews to operate the weapons from next week.
The construction of a storage facility for tactical nuclear weapons in
Belarus will be completed by 1 July, President Putin said.

The announcement comes only days after Chinese President Xi Jinping's
visit to Moscow, during which Russia and China issued a joint statement
saying "all nuclear powers must not deploy their nuclear weapons beyond
their national territories, and they must withdraw all nuclear weapons
deployed abroad".

### - scare tactics indeed! (lol am pooping m'self here boss!)

what's scares most being the rather nonchalant way everybody else just
'accepts' it and carries-on regardless instead of leaping outta their
freakin' skins at the prospect...

especially with assholes like thang yelling to: "BRING IT ON!"

instead of them all DOING SUMMAT to stop it??

as in:

....oh, have you heard, the ruskies been moving up their tactical nukes now?

oh really? - but it's surely just a scare tactic, they wont possibly use
'em...

besides, we've already gots all 'our' nukes deployed in the field and
ready to go

so there's nada to worry about folks!

talk about denial, denial, denial??? jee-suss!

i.e., we were scared to send 'em ANY offensive weapons at first huh, then
we sent 'em stingers, and then rocket launchers, and now tanks and soon
jets + fuck-knows what else as WE become more daring & used to the idea!

every surrounding nato nation armed to the teeth with US nukes as well,
and ALL that SHIT on BOTH sides pointing directly at each other!!!

s'ok, it wont happen folks, can't happen; but we've moved everything into
place just in case...

okaaaaaay??

NO! NOT OK!!!!

the MORE shit in the field is the MORE chance of it hitting the fan ya
moron!

dammit THIS is becoming THE biggest assembly of SHIT ever!?

and i mean: EVER!

plus omg have ya's SEEN the size of the goddamn... FAN??? (gallows humour
heh)

ahem (slider taps the microphone 2 times) methinks we needs to wake the
fuck up now...

coz it's gettin' a bit late in the day? (only 90 cosmic-seconds left on
the clock)

(tap tap + whistling feedback...) is no one listening??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE

(timeless protest song for vietnam/ukraine/wherever)

coz like ya know; it's not sane to continue...

(dammit, is this mic still working?)

;)

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:54:33 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
> Nato has condemned Russia's "dangerous" and "irresponsible" rhetoric after
> Vladimir Putin's decision to station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.
>
> The organisation is "closely monitoring" the situation and said the move
> would not lead it to change its own nuclear strategy.
>
> Belarus shares a long border with Ukraine, as well as with Nato members
> Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65081575
>
> Ukraine has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to
> address the potential threat of President Putin's announcement on Saturday.
>
> President Putin said Moscow would not be transferring control of its arms
> to Minsk and that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko - a firm ally of
> the Kremlin and supporter of its invasion of Ukraine - had long raised the
> issue with him.
>
> Ukraine says the move violates nuclear non-proliferation agreements - an
> accusation President Putin has denied, instead comparing it to the US
> stationing its weapons in Europe.
>
> But Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine's ministry of defence, told the BBC
> that Ukraine was used to nuclear threats from Russia, adding that the
> deployment in Belarus would not change the outcome of the war.
>
> Mr Sak said there was nothing new in Russia's behaviour, as it had been
> stationing military equipment in Belarus since the start of the war in
> 2022.
>
> Mykhailo Podolyak, another senior adviser to President Zelensky,
> characterised the move as "scare tactics" and said the Russian leader was
> "too predictable".
>
> Analysts at the US think tank Institute for War said the risk of
> escalation to nuclear war following the announcement remained "extremely
> low".
>
> A small number of Iskander tactical missile systems, which can be used to
> launch nuclear weapons, have already been transferred to Belarus,
> President Putin said in his address on Saturday.
>
> This will be the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have
> based nuclear arms outside the country.
>
> Russia will start training crews to operate the weapons from next week.
> The construction of a storage facility for tactical nuclear weapons in
> Belarus will be completed by 1 July, President Putin said.
>
> The announcement comes only days after Chinese President Xi Jinping's
> visit to Moscow, during which Russia and China issued a joint statement
> saying "all nuclear powers must not deploy their nuclear weapons beyond
> their national territories, and they must withdraw all nuclear weapons
> deployed abroad".
>
> ### - scare tactics indeed! (lol am pooping m'self here boss!)
>
> what's scares most being the rather nonchalant way everybody else just
> 'accepts' it and carries-on regardless instead of leaping outta their
> freakin' skins at the prospect...
>
> especially with assholes like thang yelling to: "BRING IT ON!"
>
> instead of them all DOING SUMMAT to stop it??
>
> as in:
>
> ...oh, have you heard, the ruskies been moving up their tactical nukes now?
>
> oh really? - but it's surely just a scare tactic, they wont possibly use
> 'em...
>
> besides, we've already gots all 'our' nukes deployed in the field and
> ready to go
>
> so there's nada to worry about folks!
>
>
> talk about denial, denial, denial??? jee-suss!
>
> i.e., we were scared to send 'em ANY offensive weapons at first huh, then
> we sent 'em stingers, and then rocket launchers, and now tanks and soon
> jets + fuck-knows what else as WE become more daring & used to the idea!
>
> every surrounding nato nation armed to the teeth with US nukes as well,
> and ALL that SHIT on BOTH sides pointing directly at each other!!!
>
> s'ok, it wont happen folks, can't happen; but we've moved everything into
> place just in case...
>
> okaaaaaay??
>
> NO! NOT OK!!!!
>
> the MORE shit in the field is the MORE chance of it hitting the fan ya
> moron!
>
> dammit THIS is becoming THE biggest assembly of SHIT ever!?
>
> and i mean: EVER!
>
> plus omg have ya's SEEN the size of the goddamn... FAN??? (gallows humour
> heh)
>
> ahem (slider taps the microphone 2 times) methinks we needs to wake the
> fuck up now...
>
> coz it's gettin' a bit late in the day? (only 90 cosmic-seconds left on
> the clock)
>
> (tap tap + whistling feedback...) is no one listening??
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE
>
> (timeless protest song for vietnam/ukraine/wherever)
>
> coz like ya know; it's not sane to continue...
>
> (dammit, is this mic still working?)
>
> ;)
there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"

> there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"

### - agreed, that's all just crap-narrative in people's heads...

e.g., henry miller (the famous american writer) was accused of being
unpatriotic because he didn't wanna have anything to do with war...
whenever war broke out in the country he was in he simply moved to
somewhere where there wasn't any war (the simplest solution heh) and
carried on writing, this being deemed unacceptable by his peers he was
called all sorts of names, including traitor etc...

but he wasn't at all a traitor, far from it! as an advanced human being he
simply had no interest in war or fighting or anything even remotely like
it, his mind being somewhere else completely such things were only an
irritation to him, anathema to his very being! an interruption to his
consuming work!

but the war-mongering morons back in wallyworld were incapable of ever
understanding such a thing, in their limited world view you're either with
them or against them with nada in between, end of story duh...

miller, otoh, was living in another dimension by comparison and interested
only in documenting the human experience, his many illuminating works of
subsequently acclaimed literature bearing clear testament to the validity
of his research!

and lol THEY wanted him to just drop everything and go maybe lose his life
killing people in yet another friggin' war??

sheesh, i mean, on 'that' basis maybe they should have gone and stuck old
einstein on the front lines huh and screw his research too, coz, let's
face it: nada's MORE important than... war!?

to an ignorant fool that is ;)

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT), chris rodgers
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:54:33 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
>> Nato has condemned Russia's "dangerous" and "irresponsible" rhetoric after
>> Vladimir Putin's decision to station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.
>>
>> The organisation is "closely monitoring" the situation and said the move
>> would not lead it to change its own nuclear strategy.
>>
>> Belarus shares a long border with Ukraine, as well as with Nato members
>> Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65081575
>>
>> Ukraine has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to
>> address the potential threat of President Putin's announcement on Saturday.
>>
>> President Putin said Moscow would not be transferring control of its arms
>> to Minsk and that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko - a firm ally of
>> the Kremlin and supporter of its invasion of Ukraine - had long raised the
>> issue with him.
>>
>> Ukraine says the move violates nuclear non-proliferation agreements - an
>> accusation President Putin has denied, instead comparing it to the US
>> stationing its weapons in Europe.
>>
>> But Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine's ministry of defence, told the BBC
>> that Ukraine was used to nuclear threats from Russia, adding that the
>> deployment in Belarus would not change the outcome of the war.
>>
>> Mr Sak said there was nothing new in Russia's behaviour, as it had been
>> stationing military equipment in Belarus since the start of the war in
>> 2022.
>>
>> Mykhailo Podolyak, another senior adviser to President Zelensky,
>> characterised the move as "scare tactics" and said the Russian leader was
>> "too predictable".
>>
>> Analysts at the US think tank Institute for War said the risk of
>> escalation to nuclear war following the announcement remained "extremely
>> low".
>>
>> A small number of Iskander tactical missile systems, which can be used to
>> launch nuclear weapons, have already been transferred to Belarus,
>> President Putin said in his address on Saturday.
>>
>> This will be the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have
>> based nuclear arms outside the country.
>>
>> Russia will start training crews to operate the weapons from next week.
>> The construction of a storage facility for tactical nuclear weapons in
>> Belarus will be completed by 1 July, President Putin said.
>>
>> The announcement comes only days after Chinese President Xi Jinping's
>> visit to Moscow, during which Russia and China issued a joint statement
>> saying "all nuclear powers must not deploy their nuclear weapons beyond
>> their national territories, and they must withdraw all nuclear weapons
>> deployed abroad".
>>
>> ### - scare tactics indeed! (lol am pooping m'self here boss!)
>>
>> what's scares most being the rather nonchalant way everybody else just
>> 'accepts' it and carries-on regardless instead of leaping outta their
>> freakin' skins at the prospect...
>>
>> especially with assholes like thang yelling to: "BRING IT ON!"
>>
>> instead of them all DOING SUMMAT to stop it??
>>
>> as in:
>>
>> ...oh, have you heard, the ruskies been moving up their tactical nukes now?
>>
>> oh really? - but it's surely just a scare tactic, they wont possibly use
>> 'em...
>>
>> besides, we've already gots all 'our' nukes deployed in the field and
>> ready to go
>>
>> so there's nada to worry about folks!
>>
>>
>> talk about denial, denial, denial??? jee-suss!
>>
>> i.e., we were scared to send 'em ANY offensive weapons at first huh, then
>> we sent 'em stingers, and then rocket launchers, and now tanks and soon
>> jets + fuck-knows what else as WE become more daring & used to the idea!
>>
>> every surrounding nato nation armed to the teeth with US nukes as well,
>> and ALL that SHIT on BOTH sides pointing directly at each other!!!
>>
>> s'ok, it wont happen folks, can't happen; but we've moved everything into
>> place just in case...
>>
>> okaaaaaay??
>>
>> NO! NOT OK!!!!
>>
>> the MORE shit in the field is the MORE chance of it hitting the fan ya
>> moron!
>>
>> dammit THIS is becoming THE biggest assembly of SHIT ever!?
>>
>> and i mean: EVER!
>>
>> plus omg have ya's SEEN the size of the goddamn... FAN??? (gallows humour
>> heh)
>>
>> ahem (slider taps the microphone 2 times) methinks we needs to wake the
>> fuck up now...
>>
>> coz it's gettin' a bit late in the day? (only 90 cosmic-seconds left on
>> the clock)
>>
>> (tap tap + whistling feedback...) is no one listening??
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE
>>
>> (timeless protest song for vietnam/ukraine/wherever)
>>
>> coz like ya know; it's not sane to continue...
>>
>> (dammit, is this mic still working?)
>>
>> ;)
>there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"

So, you walk in on someone trying to rape and/or murder your wife or
kid.

You fight (presumably, of course)!

And you say that's not fighting the good fight?

Really?

Jews in WW2, the very few who actually rebelled against genocide by
nazis. fascists & their assorted cronies.

https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/combat-resistance/jewish-armed-resistance.html

You say that's not fighting the good fight?

Try engaging your brain before opening that mouth of yours, yeah?

And of course - fighitng doesn't really need to be with fists, or
guns, or even words...ever hear of a guy called Ghandi?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/mahatma-gandhi-changed-political-protest

fuck this place, full of fucking idiots.

"there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"

Now I understand why you throw a few words from time to time at that
pommy fuckwit Brian Aherne with his peak stupidity on public display,
well on display here for you & that Serb who lives in Germany only so
he can slander the place. Oh yeah, and that schizo in New Bedford.

Me, I try to stay away but it's like averting your fucking eyes from a
train wreck in progress...

On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:45:38 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT), chris rodgers
> <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:54:33 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
>>> Nato has condemned Russia's "dangerous" and "irresponsible" rhetoric
>>> after
>>> Vladimir Putin's decision to station tactical nuclear weapons in
>>> Belarus.
>>>
>>> The organisation is "closely monitoring" the situation and said the
>>> move
>>> would not lead it to change its own nuclear strategy.
>>>
>>> Belarus shares a long border with Ukraine, as well as with Nato members
>>> Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65081575
>>>
>>> Ukraine has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council
>>> to
>>> address the potential threat of President Putin's announcement on
>>> Saturday.
>>>
>>> President Putin said Moscow would not be transferring control of its
>>> arms
>>> to Minsk and that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko - a firm ally
>>> of
>>> the Kremlin and supporter of its invasion of Ukraine - had long raised
>>> the
>>> issue with him.
>>>
>>> Ukraine says the move violates nuclear non-proliferation agreements -
>>> an
>>> accusation President Putin has denied, instead comparing it to the US
>>> stationing its weapons in Europe.
>>>
>>> But Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine's ministry of defence, told the
>>> BBC
>>> that Ukraine was used to nuclear threats from Russia, adding that the
>>> deployment in Belarus would not change the outcome of the war.
>>>
>>> Mr Sak said there was nothing new in Russia's behaviour, as it had been
>>> stationing military equipment in Belarus since the start of the war in
>>> 2022.
>>>
>>> Mykhailo Podolyak, another senior adviser to President Zelensky,
>>> characterised the move as "scare tactics" and said the Russian leader
>>> was
>>> "too predictable".
>>>
>>> Analysts at the US think tank Institute for War said the risk of
>>> escalation to nuclear war following the announcement remained
>>> "extremely
>>> low".
>>>
>>> A small number of Iskander tactical missile systems, which can be used
>>> to
>>> launch nuclear weapons, have already been transferred to Belarus,
>>> President Putin said in his address on Saturday.
>>>
>>> This will be the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have
>>> based nuclear arms outside the country.
>>>
>>> Russia will start training crews to operate the weapons from next week.
>>> The construction of a storage facility for tactical nuclear weapons in
>>> Belarus will be completed by 1 July, President Putin said.
>>>
>>> The announcement comes only days after Chinese President Xi Jinping's
>>> visit to Moscow, during which Russia and China issued a joint statement
>>> saying "all nuclear powers must not deploy their nuclear weapons beyond
>>> their national territories, and they must withdraw all nuclear weapons
>>> deployed abroad".
>>>
>>> ### - scare tactics indeed! (lol am pooping m'self here boss!)
>>>
>>> what's scares most being the rather nonchalant way everybody else just
>>> 'accepts' it and carries-on regardless instead of leaping outta their
>>> freakin' skins at the prospect...
>>>
>>> especially with assholes like thang yelling to: "BRING IT ON!"
>>>
>>> instead of them all DOING SUMMAT to stop it??
>>>
>>> as in:
>>>
>>> ...oh, have you heard, the ruskies been moving up their tactical nukes
>>> now?
>>>
>>> oh really? - but it's surely just a scare tactic, they wont possibly
>>> use
>>> 'em...
>>>
>>> besides, we've already gots all 'our' nukes deployed in the field and
>>> ready to go
>>>
>>> so there's nada to worry about folks!
>>>
>>>
>>> talk about denial, denial, denial??? jee-suss!
>>>
>>> i.e., we were scared to send 'em ANY offensive weapons at first huh,
>>> then
>>> we sent 'em stingers, and then rocket launchers, and now tanks and soon
>>> jets + fuck-knows what else as WE become more daring & used to the
>>> idea!
>>>
>>> every surrounding nato nation armed to the teeth with US nukes as well,
>>> and ALL that SHIT on BOTH sides pointing directly at each other!!!
>>>
>>> s'ok, it wont happen folks, can't happen; but we've moved everything
>>> into
>>> place just in case...
>>>
>>> okaaaaaay??
>>>
>>> NO! NOT OK!!!!
>>>
>>> the MORE shit in the field is the MORE chance of it hitting the fan ya
>>> moron!
>>>
>>> dammit THIS is becoming THE biggest assembly of SHIT ever!?
>>>
>>> and i mean: EVER!
>>>
>>> plus omg have ya's SEEN the size of the goddamn... FAN??? (gallows
>>> humour
>>> heh)
>>>
>>> ahem (slider taps the microphone 2 times) methinks we needs to wake the
>>> fuck up now...
>>>
>>> coz it's gettin' a bit late in the day? (only 90 cosmic-seconds left on
>>> the clock)
>>>
>>> (tap tap + whistling feedback...) is no one listening??
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE
>>>
>>> (timeless protest song for vietnam/ukraine/wherever)
>>>
>>> coz like ya know; it's not sane to continue...
>>>
>>> (dammit, is this mic still working?)
>>>
>>> ;)
>> there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"
>
> So, you walk in on someone trying to rape and/or murder your wife or
> kid.
>
> You fight (presumably, of course)!
>
> And you say that's not fighting the good fight?
>
> Really?
>
> Jews in WW2, the very few who actually rebelled against genocide by
> nazis. fascists & their assorted cronies.
>
> https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/combat-resistance/jewish-armed-resistance.html
>
> You say that's not fighting the good fight?
>
> Try engaging your brain before opening that mouth of yours, yeah?
>
> And of course - fighitng doesn't really need to be with fists, or
> guns, or even words...ever hear of a guy called Ghandi?
>
> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/mahatma-gandhi-changed-political-protest
>
> fuck this place, full of fucking idiots.
>
> "there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"
>
> Now I understand why you throw a few words from time to time at that
> pommy fuckwit Brian Aherne with his peak stupidity on public display,
> well on display here for you & that Serb who lives in Germany only so
> he can slander the place. Oh yeah, and that schizo in New Bedford.
>
> Me, I try to stay away but it's like averting your fucking eyes from a
> train wreck in progress...

### - that's not at ALL what he was saying you fucking idiot LOL ! :))))

(i.e., note where he placed his quotation marks you fool)

iow: even necessary fights are ugly you gonzo...

a 'good' fight is thus a contradiction of terms: an oxymoron!

but YOU gots it COMPLETELY WRONG! LOL !!!

you're just another asshole going around policing the internet haha :)))

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:07:16 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:45:38 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT), chris rodgers
>> <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:54:33 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
>>>> Nato has condemned Russia's "dangerous" and "irresponsible" rhetoric
>>>> after
>>>> Vladimir Putin's decision to station tactical nuclear weapons in
>>>> Belarus.
>>>>
>>>> The organisation is "closely monitoring" the situation and said the
>>>> move
>>>> would not lead it to change its own nuclear strategy.
>>>>
>>>> Belarus shares a long border with Ukraine, as well as with Nato members
>>>> Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65081575
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council
>>>> to
>>>> address the potential threat of President Putin's announcement on
>>>> Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> President Putin said Moscow would not be transferring control of its
>>>> arms
>>>> to Minsk and that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko - a firm ally
>>>> of
>>>> the Kremlin and supporter of its invasion of Ukraine - had long raised
>>>> the
>>>> issue with him.
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine says the move violates nuclear non-proliferation agreements -
>>>> an
>>>> accusation President Putin has denied, instead comparing it to the US
>>>> stationing its weapons in Europe.
>>>>
>>>> But Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine's ministry of defence, told the
>>>> BBC
>>>> that Ukraine was used to nuclear threats from Russia, adding that the
>>>> deployment in Belarus would not change the outcome of the war.
>>>>
>>>> Mr Sak said there was nothing new in Russia's behaviour, as it had been
>>>> stationing military equipment in Belarus since the start of the war in
>>>> 2022.
>>>>
>>>> Mykhailo Podolyak, another senior adviser to President Zelensky,
>>>> characterised the move as "scare tactics" and said the Russian leader
>>>> was
>>>> "too predictable".
>>>>
>>>> Analysts at the US think tank Institute for War said the risk of
>>>> escalation to nuclear war following the announcement remained
>>>> "extremely
>>>> low".
>>>>
>>>> A small number of Iskander tactical missile systems, which can be used
>>>> to
>>>> launch nuclear weapons, have already been transferred to Belarus,
>>>> President Putin said in his address on Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> This will be the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have
>>>> based nuclear arms outside the country.
>>>>
>>>> Russia will start training crews to operate the weapons from next week.
>>>> The construction of a storage facility for tactical nuclear weapons in
>>>> Belarus will be completed by 1 July, President Putin said.
>>>>
>>>> The announcement comes only days after Chinese President Xi Jinping's
>>>> visit to Moscow, during which Russia and China issued a joint statement
>>>> saying "all nuclear powers must not deploy their nuclear weapons beyond
>>>> their national territories, and they must withdraw all nuclear weapons
>>>> deployed abroad".
>>>>
>>>> ### - scare tactics indeed! (lol am pooping m'self here boss!)
>>>>
>>>> what's scares most being the rather nonchalant way everybody else just
>>>> 'accepts' it and carries-on regardless instead of leaping outta their
>>>> freakin' skins at the prospect...
>>>>
>>>> especially with assholes like thang yelling to: "BRING IT ON!"
>>>>
>>>> instead of them all DOING SUMMAT to stop it??
>>>>
>>>> as in:
>>>>
>>>> ...oh, have you heard, the ruskies been moving up their tactical nukes
>>>> now?
>>>>
>>>> oh really? - but it's surely just a scare tactic, they wont possibly
>>>> use
>>>> 'em...
>>>>
>>>> besides, we've already gots all 'our' nukes deployed in the field and
>>>> ready to go
>>>>
>>>> so there's nada to worry about folks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> talk about denial, denial, denial??? jee-suss!
>>>>
>>>> i.e., we were scared to send 'em ANY offensive weapons at first huh,
>>>> then
>>>> we sent 'em stingers, and then rocket launchers, and now tanks and soon
>>>> jets + fuck-knows what else as WE become more daring & used to the
>>>> idea!
>>>>
>>>> every surrounding nato nation armed to the teeth with US nukes as well,
>>>> and ALL that SHIT on BOTH sides pointing directly at each other!!!
>>>>
>>>> s'ok, it wont happen folks, can't happen; but we've moved everything
>>>> into
>>>> place just in case...
>>>>
>>>> okaaaaaay??
>>>>
>>>> NO! NOT OK!!!!
>>>>
>>>> the MORE shit in the field is the MORE chance of it hitting the fan ya
>>>> moron!
>>>>
>>>> dammit THIS is becoming THE biggest assembly of SHIT ever!?
>>>>
>>>> and i mean: EVER!
>>>>
>>>> plus omg have ya's SEEN the size of the goddamn... FAN??? (gallows
>>>> humour
>>>> heh)
>>>>
>>>> ahem (slider taps the microphone 2 times) methinks we needs to wake the
>>>> fuck up now...
>>>>
>>>> coz it's gettin' a bit late in the day? (only 90 cosmic-seconds left on
>>>> the clock)
>>>>
>>>> (tap tap + whistling feedback...) is no one listening??
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE
>>>>
>>>> (timeless protest song for vietnam/ukraine/wherever)
>>>>
>>>> coz like ya know; it's not sane to continue...
>>>>
>>>> (dammit, is this mic still working?)
>>>>
>>>> ;)
>>> there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"
>>
>> So, you walk in on someone trying to rape and/or murder your wife or
>> kid.
>>
>> You fight (presumably, of course)!
>>
>> And you say that's not fighting the good fight?
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Jews in WW2, the very few who actually rebelled against genocide by
>> nazis. fascists & their assorted cronies.
>>
>> https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/combat-resistance/jewish-armed-resistance.html
>>
>> You say that's not fighting the good fight?
>>
>> Try engaging your brain before opening that mouth of yours, yeah?
>>
>> And of course - fighitng doesn't really need to be with fists, or
>> guns, or even words...ever hear of a guy called Ghandi?
>>
>> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/mahatma-gandhi-changed-political-protest
>>
>> fuck this place, full of fucking idiots.
>>
>> "there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"
>>
>> Now I understand why you throw a few words from time to time at that
>> pommy fuckwit Brian Aherne with his peak stupidity on public display,
>> well on display here for you & that Serb who lives in Germany only so
>> he can slander the place. Oh yeah, and that schizo in New Bedford.
>>
>> Me, I try to stay away but it's like averting your fucking eyes from a
>> train wreck in progress...
>
>### - that's not at ALL what he was saying you fucking idiot LOL ! :))))
>
>(i.e., note where he placed his quotation marks you fool)
>
>iow: even necessary fights are ugly you gonzo...
>
>a 'good' fight is thus a contradiction of terms: an oxymoron!
>
>but YOU gots it COMPLETELY WRONG! LOL !!!
>
>you're just another asshole going around policing the internet haha :)))

### - fyi am no longer living in london having moved to cornwall quite a
few weeks ago now, or haven't you been paying attention again??
(apparently not heh)

have managed to get a swap with some disabled guy from there, so don't
bother LYING to disadvantaged ukrainians, winding them up and setting them
on that poor old bastard, coz he ain't done anything to anyone! (am no
longer IN london)

besides: it's YOU that causes ALL the trouble here thang lol, constantly
attacking + threatening others for absolutely NO reason at all... you've
been doing it for YEARS!!! :D

ukraine just being your LATEST EXCUSE to do so!? coz you were doing it
LONG before that!

so don't come-off like you're SUDDENLY now: the hero/champion of ukraine??
(riiiight...)

TRUTH is you're a complete hypocrite thang! coz here you are NOW actually
plotting/threatening to USE the situation IN ukraine to make even MORE
trouble for those people by LYING to them about YOUR suspicions and
pet-hates about people only YOU know, taking advantage of THEIR plight &
confusion so they'll maybe get upset and harm other people on YOUR
behalf???

actually inciting people to do harm/murder!?

is there NOTHING you WONT stoop to??? (apparently not!)

coz THAT'S totally disgusting! you quite obviously having no moral compass
whatsoever! effectively a psychopath!

Ps. am putting you permanently back in the killfile now + don't care WHAT
you do to try to force conversation between us again, coz that's it mate!
we're done! there being absolutely no purpose nor point in having anything
more to do with you ever again, you've totally lost the plot!

and coz it's not even amusing anymore? (some of our earliest
fencing/jousting & duels etc used to be quite good fun, even witty at
times, only you seem to have gradually lost all that now and are consumed
ONLY with bitterness and hatred alone, what a shame...)

WHY you do it i dunno, an OCD mania perhaps? coz you never actually said
why you behave like you do other than you have autism...

whatever + see ya around sport (not)

and 'good bye'.

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 07:41:45 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:07:16 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:45:38 +0100, o'Mahoney
>> <libertidad@south.south.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:46:59 -0700 (PDT), chris rodgers
>>> <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:54:33 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
>>>>> Nato has condemned Russia's "dangerous" and "irresponsible" rhetoric
>>>>> after
>>>>> Vladimir Putin's decision to station tactical nuclear weapons in
>>>>> Belarus.
>>>>>
>>>>> The organisation is "closely monitoring" the situation and said the
>>>>> move
>>>>> would not lead it to change its own nuclear strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Belarus shares a long border with Ukraine, as well as with Nato
>>>>> members
>>>>> Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65081575
>>>>>
>>>>> Ukraine has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security
>>>>> Council
>>>>> to
>>>>> address the potential threat of President Putin's announcement on
>>>>> Saturday.
>>>>>
>>>>> President Putin said Moscow would not be transferring control of its
>>>>> arms
>>>>> to Minsk and that Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko - a firm
>>>>> ally
>>>>> of
>>>>> the Kremlin and supporter of its invasion of Ukraine - had long
>>>>> raised
>>>>> the
>>>>> issue with him.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ukraine says the move violates nuclear non-proliferation agreements -
>>>>> an
>>>>> accusation President Putin has denied, instead comparing it to the US
>>>>> stationing its weapons in Europe.
>>>>>
>>>>> But Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine's ministry of defence, told the
>>>>> BBC
>>>>> that Ukraine was used to nuclear threats from Russia, adding that the
>>>>> deployment in Belarus would not change the outcome of the war.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Sak said there was nothing new in Russia's behaviour, as it had
>>>>> been
>>>>> stationing military equipment in Belarus since the start of the war
>>>>> in
>>>>> 2022.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mykhailo Podolyak, another senior adviser to President Zelensky,
>>>>> characterised the move as "scare tactics" and said the Russian leader
>>>>> was
>>>>> "too predictable".
>>>>>
>>>>> Analysts at the US think tank Institute for War said the risk of
>>>>> escalation to nuclear war following the announcement remained
>>>>> "extremely
>>>>> low".
>>>>>
>>>>> A small number of Iskander tactical missile systems, which can be
>>>>> used
>>>>> to
>>>>> launch nuclear weapons, have already been transferred to Belarus,
>>>>> President Putin said in his address on Saturday.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will be the first time since the mid-1990s that Moscow will have
>>>>> based nuclear arms outside the country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russia will start training crews to operate the weapons from next
>>>>> week.
>>>>> The construction of a storage facility for tactical nuclear weapons
>>>>> in
>>>>> Belarus will be completed by 1 July, President Putin said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The announcement comes only days after Chinese President Xi Jinping's
>>>>> visit to Moscow, during which Russia and China issued a joint
>>>>> statement
>>>>> saying "all nuclear powers must not deploy their nuclear weapons
>>>>> beyond
>>>>> their national territories, and they must withdraw all nuclear
>>>>> weapons
>>>>> deployed abroad".
>>>>>
>>>>> ### - scare tactics indeed! (lol am pooping m'self here boss!)
>>>>>
>>>>> what's scares most being the rather nonchalant way everybody else
>>>>> just
>>>>> 'accepts' it and carries-on regardless instead of leaping outta their
>>>>> freakin' skins at the prospect...
>>>>>
>>>>> especially with assholes like thang yelling to: "BRING IT ON!"
>>>>>
>>>>> instead of them all DOING SUMMAT to stop it??
>>>>>
>>>>> as in:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...oh, have you heard, the ruskies been moving up their tactical
>>>>> nukes
>>>>> now?
>>>>>
>>>>> oh really? - but it's surely just a scare tactic, they wont possibly
>>>>> use
>>>>> 'em...
>>>>>
>>>>> besides, we've already gots all 'our' nukes deployed in the field and
>>>>> ready to go
>>>>>
>>>>> so there's nada to worry about folks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> talk about denial, denial, denial??? jee-suss!
>>>>>
>>>>> i.e., we were scared to send 'em ANY offensive weapons at first huh,
>>>>> then
>>>>> we sent 'em stingers, and then rocket launchers, and now tanks and
>>>>> soon
>>>>> jets + fuck-knows what else as WE become more daring & used to the
>>>>> idea!
>>>>>
>>>>> every surrounding nato nation armed to the teeth with US nukes as
>>>>> well,
>>>>> and ALL that SHIT on BOTH sides pointing directly at each other!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> s'ok, it wont happen folks, can't happen; but we've moved everything
>>>>> into
>>>>> place just in case...
>>>>>
>>>>> okaaaaaay??
>>>>>
>>>>> NO! NOT OK!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> the MORE shit in the field is the MORE chance of it hitting the fan
>>>>> ya
>>>>> moron!
>>>>>
>>>>> dammit THIS is becoming THE biggest assembly of SHIT ever!?
>>>>>
>>>>> and i mean: EVER!
>>>>>
>>>>> plus omg have ya's SEEN the size of the goddamn... FAN??? (gallows
>>>>> humour
>>>>> heh)
>>>>>
>>>>> ahem (slider taps the microphone 2 times) methinks we needs to wake
>>>>> the
>>>>> fuck up now...
>>>>>
>>>>> coz it's gettin' a bit late in the day? (only 90 cosmic-seconds left
>>>>> on
>>>>> the clock)
>>>>>
>>>>> (tap tap + whistling feedback...) is no one listening??
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE
>>>>>
>>>>> (timeless protest song for vietnam/ukraine/wherever)
>>>>>
>>>>> coz like ya know; it's not sane to continue...
>>>>>
>>>>> (dammit, is this mic still working?)
>>>>>
>>>>> ;)
>>>> there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"
>>>
>>> So, you walk in on someone trying to rape and/or murder your wife or
>>> kid.
>>>
>>> You fight (presumably, of course)!
>>>
>>> And you say that's not fighting the good fight?
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Jews in WW2, the very few who actually rebelled against genocide by
>>> nazis. fascists & their assorted cronies.
>>>
>>> https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/combat-resistance/jewish-armed-resistance.html
>>>
>>> You say that's not fighting the good fight?
>>>
>>> Try engaging your brain before opening that mouth of yours, yeah?
>>>
>>> And of course - fighitng doesn't really need to be with fists, or
>>> guns, or even words...ever hear of a guy called Ghandi?
>>>
>>> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/mahatma-gandhi-changed-political-protest
>>>
>>> fuck this place, full of fucking idiots.
>>>
>>> "there's no such thing as fighting the "good fight"
>>>
>>> Now I understand why you throw a few words from time to time at that
>>> pommy fuckwit Brian Aherne with his peak stupidity on public display,
>>> well on display here for you & that Serb who lives in Germany only so
>>> he can slander the place. Oh yeah, and that schizo in New Bedford.
>>>
>>> Me, I try to stay away but it's like averting your fucking eyes from a
>>> train wreck in progress...
>>
>> ### - that's not at ALL what he was saying you fucking idiot LOL ! :))))
>>
>> (i.e., note where he placed his quotation marks you fool)
>>
>> iow: even necessary fights are ugly you gonzo...
>>
>> a 'good' fight is thus a contradiction of terms: an oxymoron!
>>
>> but YOU gots it COMPLETELY WRONG! LOL !!!
>>
>> you're just another asshole going around policing the internet haha :)))
>
> I've just about had my fill of you, freak of nature.
> Time for you to put a sock in it.
> You get my drift here?
>
> Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
> Those who live at 7 Hailsham shouldn't throw insults.
> Take that as you want. You don't have too many in your corner Brian,
> time for you to pull your head in & fucking shut up.